Re: [Framework-Team] plone.app.theming editor branch
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Laurence Rowe wrote: > It was CC'ed to the UI team list: > http://plone.293351.n2.nabble.com/Re-Plone-developers-Should-we-integrate-ACE-into-p-a-theming-td6762177.html Right! I just get both plone-developers and UI lists and didn't see that the same thread is CC'ed to the UI mailing list as well. Thanks for pointing to this Laurence. -- Best regards, Denys Mishunov http://twitter.com/mishunov • spliter (#plone) • http://no.linkedin.com/in/denysmishunov ___ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team
Re: [Framework-Team] plone.app.theming editor branch
On 7 September 2011 13:48, Denys Mishunov wrote: > Hi Martin, > > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Martin Aspeli > wrote: >>> To the end-user it's a new feature, if only because it adds new UI. >>> I'd wager the UI team may want to take a look at that. :-) >> >> Yeah, definitely. In fact, I specifically asked for their input, though no >> response just yet. > > I don't think I have seen any email from you to the UI list. Did I > miss it while being on vacation? Or you mean you asked in that long > thread on plone-developers? Anyway, I don't think UI team will be able > to properly review this new UI before 4.2 beta. But I think UI-related > discussion shoulkd be moved to the UI list since not all of the UI > tema members read plone-developers or the Framework lists. It was CC'ed to the UI team list: http://plone.293351.n2.nabble.com/Re-Plone-developers-Should-we-integrate-ACE-into-p-a-theming-td6762177.html I think it's a great feature but I too am sceptical that the UI can be finished enough to put it in the control panel for 4.2 (based on our experience with Dexterity - UIs always take a long time). If it was a hidden feature like manage-viewlets then perhaps it would be less of a problem. Laurence ___ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team
Re: [Framework-Team] plone.app.theming editor branch
Hi Martin, On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote: >> To the end-user it's a new feature, if only because it adds new UI. >> I'd wager the UI team may want to take a look at that. :-) > > Yeah, definitely. In fact, I specifically asked for their input, though no > response just yet. I don't think I have seen any email from you to the UI list. Did I miss it while being on vacation? Or you mean you asked in that long thread on plone-developers? Anyway, I don't think UI team will be able to properly review this new UI before 4.2 beta. But I think UI-related discussion shoulkd be moved to the UI list since not all of the UI tema members read plone-developers or the Framework lists. -- Best regards, Denys Mishunov http://twitter.com/mishunov • spliter (#plone) • http://no.linkedin.com/in/denysmishunov ___ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team
Re: [Framework-Team] plone.app.theming editor branch
On 7 September 2011 13:17, Martijn Pieters wrote: > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 14:07, Martin Aspeli > wrote: > > I don't think it's necessarily adding features. It's improving the UI of > > something that's already there (but hidden in the ZMI). > > To the end-user it's a new feature, if only because it adds new UI. > I'd wager the UI team may want to take a look at that. :-) Yeah, definitely. In fact, I specifically asked for their input, though no response just yet. > > I will at one point merge it to p.a.theming and release it. Whether we > > include that release in a 4.2 KGS or 4.3 one is probably a bit moot. But > if > > the FWT wanted it for 4.2, and there was a date for beta, I'd like to > know. > > Conversely, if the FWT have reservations about the JavaScript libraries > > being used, then that'd be good to know before spending much more time > > integrating them. > > I didn't have any chance yet to look at those packages, sorry. > > Would be good if someone could. Cheers, Martin ___ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team
Re: [Framework-Team] plone.app.theming editor branch
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 14:07, Martin Aspeli wrote: > I don't think it's necessarily adding features. It's improving the UI of > something that's already there (but hidden in the ZMI). To the end-user it's a new feature, if only because it adds new UI. I'd wager the UI team may want to take a look at that. :-) > I will at one point merge it to p.a.theming and release it. Whether we > include that release in a 4.2 KGS or 4.3 one is probably a bit moot. But if > the FWT wanted it for 4.2, and there was a date for beta, I'd like to know. > Conversely, if the FWT have reservations about the JavaScript libraries > being used, then that'd be good to know before spending much more time > integrating them. I didn't have any chance yet to look at those packages, sorry. -- Martijn Pieters ___ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team
Re: [Framework-Team] plone.app.theming editor branch
On 7 September 2011 13:01, Martijn Pieters wrote: > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 09:54, Martin Aspeli > wrote: > > Basically, I'm trying to decide whether to put a bunch of effort into > > finishing it and getting it merged or not. I'd rather do that if it could > > make it into 4.2 final. > > Speaking only for myself: 4.2 is already done. We've decided what goes > in and what doesn't, and it's in the pipeline to become a beta soon. I > feel that at this stage it's too late to add features. > I don't think it's necessarily adding features. It's improving the UI of something that's already there (but hidden in the ZMI). I will at one point merge it to p.a.theming and release it. Whether we include that release in a 4.2 KGS or 4.3 one is probably a bit moot. But if the FWT wanted it for 4.2, and there was a date for beta, I'd like to know. Conversely, if the FWT have reservations about the JavaScript libraries being used, then that'd be good to know before spending much more time integrating them. Martin ___ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team
Re: [Framework-Team] plone.app.theming editor branch
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 09:54, Martin Aspeli wrote: > Basically, I'm trying to decide whether to put a bunch of effort into > finishing it and getting it merged or not. I'd rather do that if it could > make it into 4.2 final. Speaking only for myself: 4.2 is already done. We've decided what goes in and what doesn't, and it's in the pipeline to become a beta soon. I feel that at this stage it's too late to add features. -- Martijn Pieters ___ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team
Re: [Framework-Team] plone.app.theming editor branch
On Sep 7, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Yiorgis Gozadinos wrote: > > On Sep 7, 2011, at 9:54 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'd really like some FWT input on >> http://svn.plone.org/svn/plone/plone.app.theming/branches/optilude-ace >> >> Basically, I'm trying to decide whether to put a bunch of effort into >> finishing it and getting it merged or not. I'd rather do that if it could >> make it into 4.2 final. >> >> The changes basically provide a Plone UI for something you can do in the ZMI >> (edit in-ZODB themes) with a nice UI. They are fully backwards compatible, >> of course. >> >> They introduce two new JavaScript components used on the editor page (only): >> ACE (http://ace.ajax.org/ - Mozilla license) and probably CoreFive >> FileManager (http://labs.corefive.com/projects/filemanager/ - MIT license). >> >> Changes still to be made: >> >> - Integrate file manager to allow basic management of files in a theme >> - Allow any existing theme to be cloned as the starting point for a new theme >> - UI improvements (input welcome) >> >> There's a thread on this on plone-dev where people are generally positive to >> the idea. >> >> Martin > > I guess it IS time we had a meeting after all... > I can help with drafting that mail to plone-developers as well if Ross needs > help so that we can get things going a bit... > And just to avoid missunderstandings... I don't think that 4.2 is an option, but 4.3 is. -- Yiorgis Gozadinos www.jarn.com/ggozad ___ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team
Re: [Framework-Team] plone.app.theming editor branch
On Sep 7, 2011, at 9:54 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: > Hi, > > I'd really like some FWT input on > http://svn.plone.org/svn/plone/plone.app.theming/branches/optilude-ace > > Basically, I'm trying to decide whether to put a bunch of effort into > finishing it and getting it merged or not. I'd rather do that if it could > make it into 4.2 final. > > The changes basically provide a Plone UI for something you can do in the ZMI > (edit in-ZODB themes) with a nice UI. They are fully backwards compatible, of > course. > > They introduce two new JavaScript components used on the editor page (only): > ACE (http://ace.ajax.org/ - Mozilla license) and probably CoreFive > FileManager (http://labs.corefive.com/projects/filemanager/ - MIT license). > > Changes still to be made: > > - Integrate file manager to allow basic management of files in a theme > - Allow any existing theme to be cloned as the starting point for a new theme > - UI improvements (input welcome) > > There's a thread on this on plone-dev where people are generally positive to > the idea. > > Martin I guess it IS time we had a meeting after all... I can help with drafting that mail to plone-developers as well if Ross needs help so that we can get things going a bit... -- Yiorgis Gozadinos www.jarn.com/ggozad ___ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team
[Framework-Team] plone.app.theming editor branch
Hi, I'd really like some FWT input on http://svn.plone.org/svn/plone/plone.app.theming/branches/optilude-ace Basically, I'm trying to decide whether to put a bunch of effort into finishing it and getting it merged or not. I'd rather do that if it could make it into 4.2 final. The changes basically provide a Plone UI for something you can do in the ZMI (edit in-ZODB themes) with a nice UI. They are fully backwards compatible, of course. They introduce two new JavaScript components used on the editor page (only): ACE (http://ace.ajax.org/ - Mozilla license) and probably CoreFive FileManager (http://labs.corefive.com/projects/filemanager/ - MIT license). Changes still to be made: - Integrate file manager to allow basic management of files in a theme - Allow any existing theme to be cloned as the starting point for a new theme - UI improvements (input welcome) There's a thread on this on plone-dev where people are generally positive to the idea. Martin ___ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team
