Re: CVS question

2001-09-26 Thread Andy Rabagliati

cvs update -d . will do subdirectories also.

cvs -z3 update -d . will put medium compression on as well.

Cheers,   Andy!

On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Bill Janssen wrote:

 When I do a cvs update at the root of my Plucker working copy, it
 doesn't seem to actually update all of the subdirectories.  
 
 Is there some magic switch that has to be thrown to get a full update?
 



Re: CVS question

2001-09-26 Thread David A. Desrosiers


 cvs update -d . will do subdirectories also.

 cvs -z3 update -d . will put medium compression on as well.

Optimum commands for this are:

cvs -z9 up -dP

Which will add maxumum compression (probably overkill, but I'm in
close proximity to the box anyway =) and deleted any purged or removed
directories from the local copy. Always useful when dealing with projects
with branches, such as this one.

You can put these in your ~/.cvsrc file as such:

checkout -A
diff -u
log -N
update -dP




/d





Re: CVS question

2001-09-26 Thread MJ Ray

David A. Desrosiers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   cvs -z9 up -dP
   Which will add maxumum compression (probably overkill, but I'm in
 close proximity to the box anyway =) [...]

What, so you can hear it catch fire when everyone follows this advice?
 ;-)

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Plucker 1.1.13 up (was Re: CVS question)

2001-09-26 Thread David A. Desrosiers


 What, so you can hear it catch fire when everyone follows this advice?

Whot! My box? Catch fire? Nah... my laptop on the other hand...

Incidentally, 1.1.13 is up, just slapped it up there, I'm tinkering
with a slightly new format for the back-end, so you may see slight
differnces over the next couple of days.

In 10 minutes, we've gotten 46 downloads. Not bad for a 3:10am
launch. Much more to come... I may be incommunicado for a few days though,
some random things are brewing on the work front.

I'm cranking through the tutorials for Plucker now, they're coming
out really well.



/d





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Re: attributes field in paragraph header in text record?

2001-09-26 Thread Michael Nordström

On Tue, Sep 25, 2001, Bill Janssen wrote:
 I don't understand the def of the attributes field.

When in doubt check the source code ;-)

typedef struct {
Int16 size; /* Size of text */
Int16 attributes;   /* byte 0 = 0
   byte 1 = Paragraph info (see above) */
} Paragraph;

The Paragraph info is the part that is described in the spec.

 It says here that it takes 2 bytes, and that The first 5 bits in
 the attributes are unused, the 3 LSB indicates the amount of extra
 paragraph spacing (2*value pixels).

You can change it to 13 bits. I will change the struct to the following,

typedef struct {
Int16 size; /* Size of text */
Int16 attributes;   /* Paragraph info (see above) */
} Paragraph;


/Mike



Re: Viewer Chinese translation

2001-09-26 Thread Michael Nordström

On Tue, Sep 25, 2001, Danny Zeng wrote:
 I have updated the Simplified Chinese translation files.

Except for $$SC GESTURES (should be $$SC GESTURE ACTION) I have
included the changes in CVS.

 There's a few issue with the viewer.rcp file though.

What issues? If you use the rcp file in the i18n branch with the
latest changes to the language files in the main trunk then I can
understand that you have some issues, though. 

 I hope the Chinese viewer be part of 1.1.13 download.

It's included and the changes you included in your message will be
used in the next version.

 However, the viewer need more hack to handle word warp of two-byte
 encoded Chinese text correctly.

The i18n branch is not part of this release. Still, any changes 
necessary to support multibyte chars is something that has to
be added by someone that has a device using such chars. I can't
add it. I have updated the branch with all the changes from the
main trunk, though.

I will not merge the i18n branch with the main trunk until the
support is more or less complete...

/Mike



Re: Palm Boulevard Submission Information

2001-09-26 Thread David A. Desrosiers


 We wanted to send you a quick note to let you know that your software
 has been submitted or updated in the Palm Boulevard database.  The item
 that was submitted or updated is:

Once again they screw it up and copy the wrong content over with the
wrong screenshot when they hijack the Palmgear.com submission data. Lovely.


/d





Re: expanded description of the Plucker format available

2001-09-26 Thread Bill Janssen

 But IMHO if the Reader of the PluckerDB find a SortInfo Block he
 should ignore them and see it not as an wrong DB.

I don't know.  If we are going to use it at all, we should define it.
On the other hand, if we did ignore it, it would be a handy place to
put expansion information.

 The same as with the
 AppInfo Block that is also not used by Plucker, but there are no
 Problem if this are there.

Actually, I think we would use the info in the AppInfo block if it was
there.  Not in the PalmOS viewer, but possibly in other viewers the
icons and the versioning information would be handy.

Bill




Re: attributes field in paragraph header in text record?

2001-09-26 Thread Bill Janssen

  You can change it to 13 bits. I will change the struct to the following,
  
  typedef struct {
  Int16 size; /* Size of text */
  Int16 attributes;   /* Paragraph info (see above) */
  } Paragraph;
 
 So the high-order 3 bits of attributes will be unused, and the
 low-order 13 bits indicate the amount of extra paragraph spacing,
 right?
 
 Bill

This is so obviously clueless I'm blushing.  Obviously you mean that
the high-order 13 bits are reserved, and that the 3 low-order bits
indicate the amount of extra paragraph spacing.

Bill




tr now models hr behavior. Intentional?

2001-09-26 Thread David A. Desrosiers


I just happened to be making some of the tutorials for Plucker, and
ran across a site which seems to bring out a weird behavior in Plucker
1.1.13. Pluck this using 8bpp, maxdepth of 1, zlib:

http://www.norpilot.no/avantgo/index.html

And you get something resembling the two attached screenshots.
Notice that the source code to that website uses tr where we see hr in
Plucker. I haven't yet poured through the python code to see if this is
intentional or not. Anyone else see this?



/d


 NorPilot_site.gif
 NorPilot_palm.gif


Re: tr now models hr behavior. Intentional?

2001-09-26 Thread Bill Janssen

Note that when we translate a table, we put in the thick horizontal
rules between rows, I believe it is, and thin horizontal lines between
the columns of the row.

So that site's not too surprising...

Bill




Re: what version of autoconf?

2001-09-26 Thread David A. Desrosiers


 What version of autoconf are folks using?  I'm working with 2.52, and
 getting nowhere fast.

Are you sure that's the autoconf version you're seeing? I have the
latest bleeding-edge debian packages here, and they report 2.13. I suppose I
could build from source, but there's probably no need, this seems to work
fine for me. I see 2.52 on gnu.org though, dated July 18th. Whoa, wait,
Debian has two versions installed at the same time, and 2.13 is used by
default. Hrm...

broccoli:~# dpkg -l | grep autoconf
ii  autoconf   2.52-2automatic configure script builder
ii  autoconf2.13   2.13-38   automatic configure script builder (obsolete
ii  pkg-config 0.8.0-1   program and autoconf macro to gather compile

What's odd is that I can't remove autoconf2.13, even though it's
obsolete, because it wants to remove a bunch of other things that I use.
ACK!

The following packages will be REMOVED:
  autoconf autoconf2.13 automake autoproject task-c++-dev task-devel-common
xml-i18n-tools
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 7 to remove and 13  not upgraded.

In any case, 2.13 appears to work, and I guess this hybrid 2.52
amalgmated system works as well. I'll have to poke around and see what's
tied to what here and break off the 2.13 stuff.




/d





Re: attributes field in paragraph header in text record?

2001-09-26 Thread Michael Nordström

On Wed, Sep 26, 2001, Bill Janssen wrote:
 Obviously you mean that the high-order 13 bits are reserved, and that
 the 3 low-order bits indicate the amount of extra paragraph spacing.

Yes ;-)

/Mike



Support for HandEra 330?

2001-09-26 Thread reg

I have attempted to run Plucker, about which I've heard great things, on
my HandEra 330.  Unfortunately, the Plucker manual gets stuck in some
kind of loading loop when Plucker starts.  I can see a percentage at the
top of the screen cycling from 0% to 10% over and over and the contents
of the first page just flicker as this happens.  A reset is required to
exit Plucker.

I've heard from someone on a board that this is only a problem with
compressed documents.  But compression is one of the big benefits of
Plucker, so it seems to me that it's broken for my purposes.

I did not see any mention of this problem on your bugs page (which
seemed pretty empty), or on any FAQ or other page.  I was wondering if
the development team is aware of this and if fixing this is on any to-do
list.

I'd be giddy with delight to find something that effectively replaces
AvantGo, so I'm hoping you guys can find the time to get this working on
the 330.


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Re: Support for HandEra 330?

2001-09-26 Thread David A. Desrosiers


 I did not see any mention of this problem on your bugs page (which
 seemed pretty empty), or on any FAQ or other page.  I was wondering if
 the development team is aware of this and if fixing this is on any to-do
 list.

Yes, we are aware of the Handera issues. Mike has been loaned a
Handera 330 from one of my coworkers in the hopes that he can find a
workable solution to the issues with it. Just give it a bit of time.

 I'd be giddy with delight to find something that effectively replaces
 AvantGo, so I'm hoping you guys can find the time to get this working on
 the 330.

Now now, let's not go throwing AvantGo into this =)

Seriously though, Plucker already surpasses AvantGo in many ways,
but I'll save that for another argument. Some of the top ones of course are
the dual compression, 8 languages, and the fact that it can work with local
files and https websites, which AvantGo cannot do.

I know Italics presents a problem for the Handera, so avoid that for
the moment, and scale to fit has some issues. I don't have a Handera
myself, so I don't know of any other issues.


/d