Re: Intellectual property (was: owner_id_build vs. copyprevention_bit)

2002-10-05 Thread MJ Ray

Dennis McCunney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But most of the folks I know at the moment are writers, artists, and
> musicians trying to make a living out of what is essentially intellectual
> property, who are _directly_ hurt by unrestricted sharing of thier
> copyrighted work.  I'm not concerned about loss of revenue by large
> corporations.  I _am_ concerend about the welfare of my friends.

This is an old myth peddled by the people who make money from restricting
sharing of creative works.  In the DRM world, the people who make the most
money are the "gatekeepers," the large corporations.

Why does an artist want to cooperate with large corporations and make
criminals out of people who appreciate their work?  It doesn't grow their
audience and just leaves people feeling bad.  Experiences of authors who
*welcome* their works being shared are documented in articles such as
http://www.baen.com/library/palaver6.htm (OK, so that's a widget frosting or
related services model, but it still shows what a good way it is to become
known.  There are probably others, but that was the first I grabbed from my
bookmarks).

Personally, I'd go further and start looking for a way to provide work as
copyleft, but then you knew that anyway.  I'm concerned about the welfare of
*all* my friends, but both producers and consumers.

MJR

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Plucker Desktop: czech

2002-10-05 Thread Robert O'Connor

Thanks go out to these guys for passing the word on to the Czech users of Plucker (one 
of the 
language for which the viewer is available is Czech).

http://svetpda.cz/svetpda/svetpda.nsf/v/CCF1E066A768B75FC1256C4300666384

If the new plkr.org website has a section to give a link back for thanks to places who 
are 
actively helping to pass the word about to people about Plucker, perhaps these guys 
could be 
part of that. 

Best wishes,
Robert
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Plucker viewer: czech

2002-10-05 Thread Robert O'Connor

And this is a review of the viewer, in czech. Quite extensive, with many screen 
captures of the 
viewer in action.

http://svetpda.cz/svetpda/svetpda.nsf/v/269082378977405FC1256C3600602684

Best wishes,
Robert

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Re: ImageParser.py

2002-10-05 Thread Bill Janssen

Hi, Chris.  It's in the regular CVS; was it ever in 1.2?

Bill
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RE: Intellectual property (was: owner_id_build vs. copyprevention_bit)

2002-10-05 Thread Dennis McCunney

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of MJ Ray
> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 4:56 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Intellectual property (was: owner_id_build vs.
> copyprevention_bit)
>
>
> Dennis McCunney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > But most of the folks I know at the moment are writers, artists, and
> > musicians trying to make a living out of what is essentially
intellectual
> > property, who are _directly_ hurt by unrestricted sharing of thier
> > copyrighted work.  I'm not concerned about loss of revenue by large
> > corporations.  I _am_ concerend about the welfare of my friends.
>
> This is an old myth peddled by the people who make money from
> restricting sharing of creative works.  In the DRM world, the people
> who make the mostmoney are the "gatekeepers," the large corporations.

It's not entirely a myth, unfortunately.

> Why does an artist want to cooperate with large corporations and make
> criminals out of people who appreciate their work?  It doesn't grow their
> audience and just leaves people feeling bad.  Experiences of authors who
> *welcome* their works being shared are documented in articles such as
> http://www.baen.com/library/palaver6.htm (OK, so that's a widget frosting
> or related services model, but it still shows what a good way it is to
> become known.  There are probably others, but that was the first I
> grabbed from my bookmarks).

Sure.  I'm familiar with this, I have Baen's site bookmarked, know various
of the folks at Baen, and probably (without having looked at the URL) know
some of the folks quoted.  Baen credits the website with thier metamorphosis
into a hard cover publisher, as the downloads spur demand for the author's
books.  (As it happens, SF/Fantasy is the bulk of my fiction reading, and
over the years I've met many of the folks who write, illustrate, and edit
it.)

And Janis Ian has a nice piece on her website making similar points, which
got her a prompt response from the RIAA asking to talk. :)

But in the case of Baen (and other success stories for the freely shared
model) one important bit of my argument is common: the creators _gave
permission_ for it to happen.  It was done with thier knowledge and consent.

My gripe is with _unauthorized_ sharing, not with sharing at all.  If you,
as an author, explicity allow and encourage sharing under a copyleft or
similar structure, I'll happily share it with folks I believe might be
interested.  If you _don't_ explicityly allow it, it's questionable, to put
it mildly, for me to share it anyway.

> Personally, I'd go further and start looking for a way to
> provide work as copyleft, but then you knew that anyway.  I'm concerned
about
> the welfare of *all* my friends, but both producers and consumers.

Agreed.

> MJR
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Java version of the 1.2beta13 distiller available

2002-10-05 Thread Bill Janssen

I've put a pure-Java version of the 1.2beta13 distiller at
ftp://ftp.parc.xerox.com/transient/janssen/plucker-build-1.2beta13.jar.

You invoke it as

java -classpath SOMEWHERE/plucker-build-1.2beta13.jar pluckit ARGS

where SOMEWHERE is where you've put the jar file, and ARGS are the
standard args to the plucker-build command.

This can easily be wrapped in a shell script called "plucker-build" :-).

Thanks to Marco Schmidt and the Java Imaging Utilities project
(jiu.sourceforge.net) for providing a great GPL-ed Java toolkit for
image hacking!

Bill
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Re: Plucker + clockpopup

2002-10-05 Thread Adam McDaniel

On Sat, Oct 05, 2002 at 08:41:47PM +0200, Jakub Turski wrote:
> The situation looks as follows. I have newest plucker (1.2 beta 13) and
> clockpopup installed. While reading a plucker document, I press datebook button
> long enough to activate clockpopup. Then I let off the button, and it returns
> to plucker. The only problem is, that in most of the cases part contained in
> ... tags are mangled up - instead of program code (contained in
> ) I see debris of clockpopup big font. 
> 
>  If the bug will not be reproductible, I can make some screenshots, or provide
>  further info.

A link to where to find clockpopup may be useful. Also what device are
you using?

> Please give me some feedback about it, when it'll be checked upon ;)

I cannot really guarantee if it's fixable. But I can have a quick
look.

If you *really* need this fixed, I would suggest filing a proper bug
report on the plkr.org site :)

-- 
Adam McDaniel
Array.org
Calgary, AB, Canada



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Re: Java version of the 1.2beta13 distiller available

2002-10-05 Thread Bill Janssen

Sigh.  Never mind.  I was using an old version of the imaging
utilities, and they produce odd images.  I'll post it again after I
dig out the right version of JIU.

Bill

> I've put a pure-Java version of the 1.2beta13 distiller at
> ftp://ftp.parc.xerox.com/transient/janssen/plucker-build-1.2beta13.jar.

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About the Soft Hypen

2002-10-05 Thread Hilary Cheng



Hi All,
 
    I am using the Plucker as my 
ebook reader. But I found that 
the Soft Hypen makes problem on displaying 
Chinese Characters.
If I remove the soft hypen detection, It can 
display Chinese w/o any
problem. Is that possible to add an options that 
let users to turn on/off
soft hypen detection ?
 
Regards,
 
Hilary
 
PS: I just remove the SOFT_HYPEN code in the 
WriteLine Function in
the paragraph.c