Re: [PLUG] Headless Linux Machine

2014-11-10 Thread Robert Citek
Hello Ginger,

I cannot speak for  the Linux clinic, but if you are up for an
adventure, you can try a few things before going.  Here are two
possible options:

1) attach an external monitor and install linux as you normally would
2) attach a single-port KVM switch[1], connect to it, and install as
you normally would.

As for Ubuntu or RedHat, they are both good distros.  Since you are
familiar with CentOS, you may want to try that one first.  Then repeat
with Ubuntu.

Good luck and let us know how things turn out.

[1] http://www.lantronix.com/it-management/kvm-over-ip/spider.html

Regards,
- Robert

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:34 PM, G C foxyco...@gmail.com wrote:
 I want to use an laptop that has a broken screen to install a headless
 linux os on it and connect it to my new windows laptop.  Is the Linux
 clinic on Sunday the 16th a good place to assist and get info on how to
 complete this task (or get better solutions LOL).  I have a download of
 ubuntu server as well as a full download of centos (I work with Red Hat and
 centos so not sure how much different ubuntu is).

 Ginger
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Re: [PLUG] Headless Linux Machine

2014-11-10 Thread G C
Robert,

Thanks for the input.  I will check out Spider and see if that works.  I
was also thinking of hooking it to my tv to see if I could use that as a
temporary monitor.

Sincerely,
Ginger Coxey

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Robert Citek robert.ci...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hello Ginger,

 I cannot speak for  the Linux clinic, but if you are up for an
 adventure, you can try a few things before going.  Here are two
 possible options:

 1) attach an external monitor and install linux as you normally would
 2) attach a single-port KVM switch[1], connect to it, and install as
 you normally would.

 As for Ubuntu or RedHat, they are both good distros.  Since you are
 familiar with CentOS, you may want to try that one first.  Then repeat
 with Ubuntu.

 Good luck and let us know how things turn out.

 [1] http://www.lantronix.com/it-management/kvm-over-ip/spider.html

 Regards,
 - Robert

 On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:34 PM, G C foxyco...@gmail.com wrote:
  I want to use an laptop that has a broken screen to install a headless
  linux os on it and connect it to my new windows laptop.  Is the Linux
  clinic on Sunday the 16th a good place to assist and get info on how to
  complete this task (or get better solutions LOL).  I have a download of
  ubuntu server as well as a full download of centos (I work with Red Hat
 and
  centos so not sure how much different ubuntu is).
 
  Ginger
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Re: [PLUG] Headless Linux Machine

2014-11-10 Thread Paul Heinlein

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014, Robert Citek wrote:


Hello Ginger,

I cannot speak for  the Linux clinic, but if you are up for an
adventure, you can try a few things before going.  Here are two
possible options:

1) attach an external monitor and install linux as you normally would
2) attach a single-port KVM switch[1], connect to it, and install as
you normally would.


Or

3) Install CentOS over VNC (a standard CentOS installer option),
4) Use a serial console, assuming the laptop has an RS232 port.

The details for serial consoles are tricky (and long enough that I 
don't have time to cover them), but the benefit is that you'll be able 
to do out-of-band remote management.


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Re: [PLUG] Headless Linux Machine

2014-11-10 Thread Robert Citek
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Paul Heinlein heinl...@madboa.com wrote:
 On Mon, 10 Nov 2014, Robert Citek wrote:
 I cannot speak for  the Linux clinic, but if you are up for an
 adventure, you can try a few things before going.  Here are two
 possible options:

 1) attach an external monitor and install linux as you normally would
 2) attach a single-port KVM switch[1], connect to it, and install as
 you normally would.

 Or

 3) Install CentOS over VNC (a standard CentOS installer option),
 4) Use a serial console, assuming the laptop has an RS232 port.

Thanks, Paul.  I meant to have written Here are just two of many 

Kind of like measuring the height of a building with a barometer.

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Re: [PLUG] Headless Linux Machine

2014-11-10 Thread Bill Barry
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Robert Citek robert.ci...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, Paul.  I meant to have written Here are just two of many 

 Kind of like measuring the height of a building with a barometer.


Attaching an external monitor seems like the best option if it works.
One more for the list is to pull the hard disk from the laptop, attach
it to a desktop machine and install from there. Then put the hard disk
back into the laptop.

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Re: [PLUG] Headless Linux Machine

2014-11-10 Thread Paul Heinlein

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014, Robert Citek wrote:

Thanks, Paul.  I meant to have written Here are just two of many 



I didn't mean to imply that you were suggesting your list was 
exhaustive. In fact, your solutions are probably the most accessible.


The VNC installation may be unique to Red Hat-based distributions (I 
don't recall seeing it as an option in Debian or Ubuntu, but that may 
be my oversight).


Installation via serial console is definitely not a beginner-level 
operation and probably more of an acquired taste. Then again, beer is 
also an acquired taste, so there's that to be said in defense of 
serial consoles.


I didn't mention a fifth option, but will do so now:

5) Put the laptop's hard drive in another machine, do the installation
   there, then move the drive back to the original machine.

Of course, that doesn't solve the how do I get a local console? 
issue, but with Linux (pace Windows), it's a very viable solution.


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Re: [PLUG] Headless Linux Machine

2014-11-10 Thread Paul Heinlein

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014, Paul Heinlein wrote:


5) Put the laptop's hard drive in another machine, do the
   installation there, then move the drive back to the original
   machine.


I swear I didn't see Bill's suggestion before sending this! :-)

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[PLUG] ArchLinux boot never gets as far as grub

2014-11-10 Thread Dick Steffens
I've just installed ArchLinux on a spare machine. The install process 
worked, but when I try to boot the installation I just get a blank 
screen with a blinking cursor. I've Googled for this, but all of the 
answers I've seen appear to get as far as GRUB before getting a black 
screen, and then recommend appending something to the GRUB command. I 
don't get that far.

I can boot the install disk again, and I can mount sda1 on /mnt and look 
at /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg, but don't know what to do with what I see.

Recommendations appreciated.

Thanks.

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Re: [PLUG] ArchLinux boot never gets as far as grub

2014-11-10 Thread Michael Rasmussen

Did you do the grub initialization while chrooted?
Do the instructions at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#BIOS_systems 
make sense?
or do you have an UEFI system?


On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 05:35:47PM -0800, Dick Steffens wrote:
 I've just installed ArchLinux on a spare machine. The install process 
 worked, but when I try to boot the installation I just get a blank 
 screen with a blinking cursor. I've Googled for this, but all of the 
 answers I've seen appear to get as far as GRUB before getting a black 
 screen, and then recommend appending something to the GRUB command. I 
 don't get that far.
 
 I can boot the install disk again, and I can mount sda1 on /mnt and look 
 at /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg, but don't know what to do with what I see.
 
 Recommendations appreciated.
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: [PLUG] Scanning for and connecting to wifi networks

2014-11-10 Thread Russell Senior
 John == John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net writes:

John [...] If I right-click on the nm-applet icon I can select Edit
John connections, which gives me a GUI showing all the available
John networks. But all the options are grayed out for all of them
John except the ones that are open and my own network. For my own
John network the Wifi Security tab allows me to enter or change
John password. If I run 'sudo nm-applet' the editing options are also
John all grayed out.

John I'm pretty sure I will be able to connect to the Flashair if I
John can just figure out how to tell network manager what the
John password is. Any ideas?

You could try forgetting the network and then try connecting again.
If it had cached a password earlier, that should forget the password
too and re-ask for it.


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Re: [PLUG] Scanning for and connecting to wifi networks

2014-11-10 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:43:31 -0800
Russell Senior russ...@personaltelco.net dijo:

John I'm pretty sure I will be able to connect to the Flashair if I
John can just figure out how to tell network manager what the
John password is. Any ideas?

You could try forgetting the network and then try connecting again.
If it had cached a password earlier, that should forget the password
too and re-ask for it.

I can't find any option in the nm-applet to forget a network
connection. 

But the word forget reminded me that forget is the term I see in
the wifi options on my Note3. So I looked in the wifi networks visible
to the phone and the Flashair did not appear at first, but it did
appear after I removed the card from the laptop and reinserted it. And
indeed, it took the password and I connected to it. The phone said its
IP address is 192.168.0.11.

But when I connect to it with the laptop it says it is connected, but
the icon keeps spinning around waiting for me to give it the password,
which I cannot do because the GUI gives me no place to enter it. After
a while it times out.

I might add that the neighbors whose networks are secured operate the
same way in the GUI. I have never even attempted to connect to them,
but just now I tried one and got the same results - spinning icon until
it times out, and never a popup asking for a password.

Is there a way to connect to a network and give it a password from the
command line?
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