Re: [PLUG] VMPlayer host network only

2015-08-05 Thread King Beowulf
On 08/04/2015 03:17 PM, Michael Rasmussen wrote:
> I'm trying to run an network isolated VM image for diagnostics. But I
> still need to communicate with the host system to scp log files and such.
> 
> Host: Windows 7
> CLient: SuSE Linux.
> 

Just saw this thread and am glad you noodled it out.  I've had quite a
few of those "D'OH!" moments myself lately.

But here's a thought: The guest and Host do not need to transfer files
to each other via networking. A better solution is to set up a host to
guest drive mapping.  That way, you can still transfer files, with as
much security as you need, with a simple cp.  I'm not a fan of VMware as
I use qemu, but the features set is the same. You simply tell VMplayer
on the HOST to share a folder. This folder then is a mount point on the
Linux GUEST.  A script or crontab can then periodically drop files to
the host - no network needed.

https://pubs.vmware.com/workstation-9/index.jsp#com.vmware.ws.using.doc/GUID-AACE0935-4B43-43BA-A935-FC71ABA17803.html

Have fun,
-Ed

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[PLUG] THURSDAY: August PLUG Meeting: A brief history of software documentation

2015-08-05 Thread Michael Dexter

Portland Linux/Unix Group General Meeting Announcement

Who: Jennifer Rondeau
What: Back to the Future: A brief history of software documentation
Where: PSU, 1930 SW 4th Ave. Room FAB 86-01 (Lower Level)
When: Thursday, August 6th, 2015 at 7pm
Why: The pursuit of technology freedom
Stream: http://pdxlinux.org/live

The world of software development rightly demands an emphasis on the new 
and the innovative -- on doing things differently from how they’ve been 
done. The assumption is that newer is (almost) always better. But if we 
look only to the present and the future, we risk reinventing the wheel, 
failing to understand that we are all built on tradition, failing to 
learn everything that we could from the past.

This talk shows how documentarians can find inspiration in the past, 
build on it, and move forward. It tells some of these stories, and shows 
what they meant in historical context:

* The pre-history and dawn of software documentation -- how technical 
writers were hired, how they worked, what they made, the challenges they 
faced, and how their solutions continue to inform the work we do today

* The much longer history of teaching engineers to write documentation

* Efforts to make technical writing into an independent profession


Calagator Page: http://calagator.org/events/1250468578

Many will head to the Lucky Lab at 1945 NW Quimby St. after the meeting.

Rideshares Available

PLUG Page with information about all PLUG events: http://pdxlinux.org/
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PLUG is open to everyone and does not tolerate abusive behavior on its 
mailing lists or at its meetings.

See you there!

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Re: [PLUG] How to research (<>"ask") Linux questions?

2015-08-05 Thread Louis Kowolowski
The problem with search engines is that if you aren’t knowledgable on the 
subject, you don’t know which questions to ask, or how to phrase them. Chicken 
and Egg.

Case in point, one possibility to accomplish what you want:

dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/dvdN.iso

dd will read bits off the cdrom (dvd) and write them to the file you specifiy.

I used duckduckgo, but my search query was:
how to create iso from dvd linux


> On Aug 4, 2015, at 7:22 AM, Richard Owlett  wrote:
> 
> Google searches can have a lot in common with turning 1000 
> monkeys loose on 2000 typewriters expecting _The Decline and Fall 
> of the Roman Empire_.
> 
> Asking questions on fora can get bogged down in minutia (e.g. 
> "when up to  in alligators it's difficult to remember swamp 
> draining is goal").
> 
> Case in point:
> My starting point is complete DVD sets of Debian 6, 7, and 8.
> Optimizing for clock time:
>   A. copy each version to individual directory on "flash drive" 
> and/or "hard drive"
>  such that resulting structure will be /debianN/dvd1.iso ... 
> /debianN/dvdM.iso
>   B. create a local repository of each version in its own partition
> 
> For my unique case, I have adequate if imperfect solution(s).
> 
> I suspect that "How to research Linux questions" will have much 
> in common with various articles on "asking good questions on 
> Usenet". If fact this might be an expansion the most common #1 
> point under "how to ask ..." --> "Do your homework."
> 
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Re: [PLUG] VMPlayer host network only - fully resolved and D'OH

2015-08-05 Thread Michael Rasmussen
The VPN software we use is sanely configured and will not allow other
network connections to function while in use.

Once I detached from the VPN everything worked fine.


Michael Rasmussen wrote:
> Indeed it is the Windows host based packet filtering.
> Which is managed by a 3rd Party app. think of the bing names and it will
> be semi-obvious.
>
> Sometimes working for a bank is a bitch.
> My boss didn't think we had host based firewalling.
> Note: We both work in the corporate security department.
>
>
> Michael Rasmussen wrote:
>>
>> chris (fool) mccraw wrote:
>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Ken Stephens  wrote:
>>>
 Michael Rasmussen wrote:

 > Both hosts can ping their own interface, yet neither can ping the
 other's
 > interface.

>>>
>>> No surprise there - you can ping any address you configure as local by
>>> default :)
>>
>> And the sanity of "did I set up the interface?" was verified.
>>
>>>
 Check your firewall settings on both the virtual and real machines.
 You
 are probably blocking port 22 on one of them.
>>
>> No FW settings on the VM. This one is a clone of a production  system
>> that
>> we ssh to as part of regular work.
>>

>>>
>>> ...but blocking ICMP by default as he mentioned ping doesn't work?
>>> That
>>> seems odd and unexpected to me.
>>>
>>> Michael, can you tell us what the setup is on each machine (eg VM =
>>> 10.1.1.1/255.0.0.0 w/route to that network via the interface, host=
>>> 10.1.1.2/255.0.0.0 route - note that I am more interested in what the
>>> Host
>>> machine's network settings are on the private network that gets setup
>>> for
>>> the VM than what its "external" IP/routes are)?  Also, what host passes
>>> out
>>> the DHCP address to the VM - that should be in the logs somewhere? (My
>>> centos 7 VM puts it in /var/log/messages as 'server identifier x.y.z.q'
>>> in
>>> the middle of a bunch of NetworkManager output.)
>>
>> The DHCP server seems to be the VMWare player.
>>
>> Windows (host) side:
>>
>> Ethernet adapter VMware Network Adapter VMnet1:
>>
>>Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
>>Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter
>> for
>> VMnet1
>>Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-56-C0-00-01
>>DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>>Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>>IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.118.1(Preferred)
>>Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>>Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>>NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
>>
>> Linux (VM instance) side: (this is typed as I can't cut and paste from
>> there.
>>
>>
>> ip addr show eth1
>> 2: eth1:  mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
>> state
>> P qlen 1000
>>link/ehter 00:0c:29:e3:63:d7 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>>inet 192.168.118.128/24 brd 192.168.118.255 scope global eth1
>>inet6 
>>
>> ip route
>> 192.168.118.0/24 dev eth1 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.118.128
>>
>> That all looks sane to me.
>>
>> Curiously tcpdump shows:
>> 11:32:56.130921 arp who-has 192.168.118.1 tell 192.168.118.128
>> 11:32:56.131059 arp reply 192.168.118.1 is-at 00:50:56:c0:00:01
>>
>> So there's some communication on the line.  The mac addr matches the
>> Window's mac.
>>
>> Now researching Windows FW and what happens to VM connections when I've
>> a
>> VPN connection going.
>>
>>
>>> In my setup, that IP is given out by my host machine - which is not
>>> running
>>> DHCPd, so VirtualBox is using its builtin DHCP server, and just passes
>>> on
>>> many the same settings (eg nameservers) as the host OS is already using
>>> -
>>> but this is NAT, not host-based networking, mode.  I used to use the
>>> Host-based networking, but lately I've fallen back to NAT which I
>>> realize
>>> won't work for you, but hopefully the above can give us some ideas as
>>> to
>>> what's wrong.  In my old setup I'm pretty sure I had Host-based
>>> networking
>>> and still used the auto-dhcp and the default route on that VM got an
>>> automatic gateway set that was the IP of the host machine (from the
>>> point
>>> of view of the VM).
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[PLUG] Pre-announce: 1st Thursday talk

2015-08-05 Thread Michael Dexter

Hello all,

Jennifer Rondeau will be talking about documentation and its related 
processes on Thursday. I will have an announcement up ASAP.

Michael Dexter
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Re: [PLUG] VMPlayer host network only - semi resolved

2015-08-05 Thread Michael Rasmussen
Indeed it is the Windows host based packet filtering.
Which is managed by a 3rd Party app. think of the bing names and it will
be semi-obvious.

Sometimes working for a bank is a bitch.
My boss didn't think we had host based firewalling.
Note: We both work in the corporate security department.


Michael Rasmussen wrote:
>
> chris (fool) mccraw wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Ken Stephens  wrote:
>>
>>> Michael Rasmussen wrote:
>>>
>>> > Both hosts can ping their own interface, yet neither can ping the
>>> other's
>>> > interface.
>>>
>>
>> No surprise there - you can ping any address you configure as local by
>> default :)
>
> And the sanity of "did I set up the interface?" was verified.
>
>>
>>> Check your firewall settings on both the virtual and real machines. You
>>> are probably blocking port 22 on one of them.
>
> No FW settings on the VM. This one is a clone of a production  system that
> we ssh to as part of regular work.
>
>>>
>>
>> ...but blocking ICMP by default as he mentioned ping doesn't work?  That
>> seems odd and unexpected to me.
>>
>> Michael, can you tell us what the setup is on each machine (eg VM =
>> 10.1.1.1/255.0.0.0 w/route to that network via the interface, host=
>> 10.1.1.2/255.0.0.0 route - note that I am more interested in what the
>> Host
>> machine's network settings are on the private network that gets setup
>> for
>> the VM than what its "external" IP/routes are)?  Also, what host passes
>> out
>> the DHCP address to the VM - that should be in the logs somewhere? (My
>> centos 7 VM puts it in /var/log/messages as 'server identifier x.y.z.q'
>> in
>> the middle of a bunch of NetworkManager output.)
>
> The DHCP server seems to be the VMWare player.
>
> Windows (host) side:
>
> Ethernet adapter VMware Network Adapter VMnet1:
>
>Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
>Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for
> VMnet1
>Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-56-C0-00-01
>DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.118.1(Preferred)
>Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
>
> Linux (VM instance) side: (this is typed as I can't cut and paste from
> there.
>
>
> ip addr show eth1
> 2: eth1:  mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state
> P qlen 1000
>link/ehter 00:0c:29:e3:63:d7 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>inet 192.168.118.128/24 brd 192.168.118.255 scope global eth1
>inet6 
>
> ip route
> 192.168.118.0/24 dev eth1 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.118.128
>
> That all looks sane to me.
>
> Curiously tcpdump shows:
> 11:32:56.130921 arp who-has 192.168.118.1 tell 192.168.118.128
> 11:32:56.131059 arp reply 192.168.118.1 is-at 00:50:56:c0:00:01
>
> So there's some communication on the line.  The mac addr matches the
> Window's mac.
>
> Now researching Windows FW and what happens to VM connections when I've a
> VPN connection going.
>
>
>> In my setup, that IP is given out by my host machine - which is not
>> running
>> DHCPd, so VirtualBox is using its builtin DHCP server, and just passes
>> on
>> many the same settings (eg nameservers) as the host OS is already using
>> -
>> but this is NAT, not host-based networking, mode.  I used to use the
>> Host-based networking, but lately I've fallen back to NAT which I
>> realize
>> won't work for you, but hopefully the above can give us some ideas as to
>> what's wrong.  In my old setup I'm pretty sure I had Host-based
>> networking
>> and still used the auto-dhcp and the default route on that VM got an
>> automatic gateway set that was the IP of the host machine (from the
>> point
>> of view of the VM).
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Re: [PLUG] VMPlayer host network only

2015-08-05 Thread Michael Rasmussen

chris (fool) mccraw wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Ken Stephens  wrote:
>
>> Michael Rasmussen wrote:
>>
>> > Both hosts can ping their own interface, yet neither can ping the
>> other's
>> > interface.
>>
>
> No surprise there - you can ping any address you configure as local by
> default :)

And the sanity of "did I set up the interface?" was verified.

>
>> Check your firewall settings on both the virtual and real machines. You
>> are probably blocking port 22 on one of them.

No FW settings on the VM. This one is a clone of a production  system that
we ssh to as part of regular work.

>>
>
> ...but blocking ICMP by default as he mentioned ping doesn't work?  That
> seems odd and unexpected to me.
>
> Michael, can you tell us what the setup is on each machine (eg VM =
> 10.1.1.1/255.0.0.0 w/route to that network via the interface, host=
> 10.1.1.2/255.0.0.0 route - note that I am more interested in what the Host
> machine's network settings are on the private network that gets setup for
> the VM than what its "external" IP/routes are)?  Also, what host passes
> out
> the DHCP address to the VM - that should be in the logs somewhere? (My
> centos 7 VM puts it in /var/log/messages as 'server identifier x.y.z.q' in
> the middle of a bunch of NetworkManager output.)

The DHCP server seems to be the VMWare player.

Windows (host) side:

Ethernet adapter VMware Network Adapter VMnet1:

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for
VMnet1
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-56-C0-00-01
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
   IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.118.1(Preferred)
   Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
   NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Linux (VM instance) side: (this is typed as I can't cut and paste from there.


ip addr show eth1
2: eth1:  mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state
P qlen 1000
   link/ehter 00:0c:29:e3:63:d7 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
   inet 192.168.118.128/24 brd 192.168.118.255 scope global eth1
   inet6 

ip route
192.168.118.0/24 dev eth1 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.118.128

That all looks sane to me.

Curiously tcpdump shows:
11:32:56.130921 arp who-has 192.168.118.1 tell 192.168.118.128
11:32:56.131059 arp reply 192.168.118.1 is-at 00:50:56:c0:00:01

So there's some communication on the line.  The mac addr matches the
Window's mac.

Now researching Windows FW and what happens to VM connections when I've a
VPN connection going.


> In my setup, that IP is given out by my host machine - which is not
> running
> DHCPd, so VirtualBox is using its builtin DHCP server, and just passes on
> many the same settings (eg nameservers) as the host OS is already using -
> but this is NAT, not host-based networking, mode.  I used to use the
> Host-based networking, but lately I've fallen back to NAT which I realize
> won't work for you, but hopefully the above can give us some ideas as to
> what's wrong.  In my old setup I'm pretty sure I had Host-based networking
> and still used the auto-dhcp and the default route on that VM got an
> automatic gateway set that was the IP of the host machine (from the point
> of view of the VM).
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