Re: [PLUG] fstab entry
On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 08:20:47 -0700, in message caarut0gzxdj5xqdnlkjax8e+vxpbbztrbvxxrvpwxpd4vnl...@mail.gmail.com, Denis Heidtmann wrote: I needed to use the floppy disk on my ubuntu 14.04 system (why is a separate story). I found that the default setup had the floppy owned by root. Even when I made myself a member of the group floppy, I did not have write access. It appeared as if the drive was not a member of the group floppy. On searching for a solution I came across a change to /etc/fstab which solved the problem. My question is, I would like to understand what these changes do and what the entries mean, and make sure that the changes do not have any flaws. Could the dropping of the utf8 option produce a problem? Original entry (as provided by the installation): /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 New entry: /dev/fd0 /media/floppy auto rw,user,noauto,exec,gid=floppy,umask=007 0 0 You ensured that the floppy was a member of group floppy. Since you're a member of that group, you now have access. The utf8 option does different things, depending on the type of filesystem. You'll have to read the mount(8) man page to determine what's happening in your particular case. If you're formatting your floppy as vfat, then I'd keep the utf8 option. BTW, you might want to specify uid=your_user_ID. That should make sure that you own the device, not root. Hope this helps. --Dale -- It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.-- The Programmer's Mantra pgp_x0kfOo0dk.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] fstab entry
I needed to use the floppy disk on my ubuntu 14.04 system (why is a separate story). I found that the default setup had the floppy owned by root. Even when I made myself a member of the group floppy, I did not have write access. It appeared as if the drive was not a member of the group floppy. On searching for a solution I came across a change to /etc/fstab which solved the problem. My question is, I would like to understand what these changes do and what the entries mean, and make sure that the changes do not have any flaws. Could the dropping of the utf8 option produce a problem? Original entry (as provided by the installation): /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 New entry: /dev/fd0 /media/floppy auto rw,user,noauto,exec,gid=floppy,umask=007 0 0 Thanks, -Denis ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Linux distributions
I have been using Mint with XFCE as a desktop for many years and across two jobs. I tend to work with about a dozen desktops (workspaces) and the behavior of XFCE suits me, or I've just become accustomed to it. Any instability has historically been due to a specific hardware component/driver. I also support customers that typically are running RHEL with a few Debian installs too, and have a number of VMs running varieties of versions of Debian and Centos with different versions of our software. (opennms.org/com, we do open source enterprise network managment software) Not a big fan of systemd for the dubious individual heading it and their approach/vision, but change is. We tend to favor redhat-based distros mostly because it reflects our customer base. They use it under heavy loads in large environments and it has been very stable. Maybe the largest differentiating factor I have noticed is that binary packages *I use* tend to come in rpms more than deb. It is usually, except in SuSE flavors (and we also used SLES at oldjob), pretty easy to match up rpms to a redhat version and more difficult in a debian or ubuntu environment. Both package management environments aren't the best (apt-/dpkg vs yum/rpm), though I think redhat gets the tip because apt-cache and dpkg --get-selections are just weird to anyone not used to them. A lot of this is very conditional and depends on what you're doing with linux. I had a coworker at oldjob that would buid the most minimal BSD and tiny kernel he could. I also had another that did similarly with Arch. Part of their enjoyment of *nix was they could do that and accepted the difficulties (or lack of) that came with those approaches. I'm not a fan of extra cruft, and vanilla installs come with plenty, but not to the point that I wanted to create a custom install approach. Just put together a small, low-power desktop based on the ASRock N3700-ITX (6W TDP) with Mint 17.2 and am in a holding pattern for Intel to release a Skylake video driver for Linux. Might be a good time to try other distros/desktops and see how they do with the hardware until drivers are available. -- Ken PGP Key Fingerprint 7F29 C36C 4607 8C14 C82D 5DEA 1C1D F5D9 DBA0 F9AF ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] fstab entry
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Dale Snell ddsn...@frontier.com wrote: On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 08:20:47 -0700, in message caarut0gzxdj5xqdnlkjax8e+vxpbbztrbvxxrvpwxpd4vnl...@mail.gmail.com, Denis Heidtmann wrote: I needed to use the floppy disk on my ubuntu 14.04 system (why is a separate story). I found that the default setup had the floppy owned by root. Even when I made myself a member of the group floppy, I did not have write access. It appeared as if the drive was not a member of the group floppy. On searching for a solution I came across a change to /etc/fstab which solved the problem. My question is, I would like to understand what these changes do and what the entries mean, and make sure that the changes do not have any flaws. Could the dropping of the utf8 option produce a problem? Original entry (as provided by the installation): /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 New entry: /dev/fd0 /media/floppy auto rw,user,noauto,exec,gid=floppy,umask=007 0 0 You ensured that the floppy was a member of group floppy. Since you're a member of that group, you now have access. The utf8 option does different things, depending on the type of filesystem. You'll have to read the mount(8) man page to determine what's happening in your particular case. If you're formatting your floppy as vfat, then I'd keep the utf8 option. BTW, you might want to specify uid=your_user_ID. That should make sure that you own the device, not root. Hope this helps. --Dale Thanks. It does help. It was a struggle, but I managed to gain some understanding by reading, rereading, and rereading again the mount man page. I find now that there are three folders under media: floppy, floppy0, and household. floppy is a link to floppy0, but why is household now there? (household is the current user name). And the original mount point was /media/floppy0, the new one is /media/floppy. Does this matter? -Denis ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Share error?
I clicked on the Floppy Disk in the Files GUI (Nautilus replacement, I believe.) The following window popped up: Unable to access Floppy Disk Error mounting system-managed device /dev/fd0: Comand-line 'mount/media/floppy exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device The drive was empty, so it may always respond this way. But then the following popped up: There was an error while getting the sharing information 'net usershare' returned error 255:net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error No such file or dirctory Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing. I have done no explicit sharing. Is this a bad sign? Thanks, -Denis ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
