Re: [PLUG] T430 fan problem under Debian but not Windows
For what it is worth it, I have run (and still do) various versions of openSuSE and Knoppix on T430 without any strange fan control problems. The only fan issue I have encountered was noise from fan's dead bearings after heavy 3 years use, resolved by replacing the fan/heatsink assembly. I'd think, that you could try to install or run live Ubuntu (because it is close to Debian) and see what controls the fan, trace it to a package or kernel module and install it on your Debian copy. Scrolling through lsmod output I see following modules (smells like fan related) loaded: thinkpad_acpi, thermal and various i2c modules maybe used to control the fan's PWM -Tomas On Sat, 2016-12-31 at 22:05 -0800, Chuck Hast wrote:Mate on a X-201 and a X-301, both of them run the fans, > > > indeedthermal > I have them listed in Gkrellm and can see the speed vary as load > > > varies on > the machine. I have not really thought about it as seems that they > > > are "just > there", but I will look and see what it is doing.> > On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 8:23 AM, Richard Owlett > > > wrote:> > > On 12/31/2016 9:36 AM, Bill Barry wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 2:29 AM, Richard Owlett > > > > wrote: > > > > I just purchased a used T430 to replace a R61 which had died due > > > > to a fan failure. > > > > I've installed a minimal Jessie including what the installer > > > > considers standard utilities and a very basic MATE DE.> > > > > > > > I used Synaptic to install "mate-system-tools". > > > > An error message said "thinkfan post installation script returned > > > > error exit status 1". > > > > I checked for airflow - there was NONE. > > > > Booted into Windows 7. There was warm airflow whose temperature > > > > decreased with time. > > > > I returned to Debian and attempted to reinstall "thinkfan". > > > > Error message stated "attempted to reinstall E: Internal Error, > > > > No file name for thinkfan:i386".> > > > > > > > Two questions:> > > > > > > > 1. How may I force the fan to run continuously at maximum speed. > > > > Noise &/or power consumption is not important.> > > > > > > > 2. What/where is this "missing file"? Any diagnostic suggestions > > > > > > > > > > > > The lm-sensors package has utilities for measuring temperature and > > > > > > > fan > > > speed and setting the fan speed accordingly. That might be a good > > > place to start. As for your specific error message I don't know what > > > that is about. It could be what is causing lm-sensors to not do it's > > > job.> > > > > > This might help > > > http://www.lxle.net/forums/discussion/821/how-to-set-up- > > > > thinkfan-on-a-lenovo-thinkpad-t430/p1 > > > > > > Bill> > > > > > > > > I think I've installed lm-sensors but I have to double check. > > I hadn't seen that your yet. > > I'm beginning to get responses on the Debian user list. I'll > > merge your info into what I'm getting there. > > Thank you.> > > > > > ___ > > PLUG mailing list > > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug> > > > > > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] TEMPer v 25.6 Linux...
Oh yes where are you located. The reason I have so little wind is the topography, I am down NE of a ridge about 100 ft with tall trees all around and there are ridges to the north of me that run quite a bit higher so I get little wind down here. It can be blowing a gale at treetop level and I get very little even at the 30ft point above the house where the sensor head is located. But that wind will pick up limbs and toss them down here on us, so it is definitely there. APRS or CWOP will show you exactly where I am. On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 10:38 PM, Chuck Hast wrote: > I will have to give that a try. I am about fed up with WU, the acurite > does not > send wind direction data (at least from the console) when there is no wind > speed, WU then pushes you down as their stupid interface considers your > station "broke" because it does not show wind direction when there is no > wind. > > Tonight I went to check it and I am not even shown, so not sure what is > going > on, I see the WX data being sent and I get no complaints back about no > being > able to send it or it not being received so not sure what is going on. > > I am also on CWOP (AV216) and can also be seen on APRS as KP4DJT. Both > of them show good data though CWOP seems to get heartburn from my DP > readings since it has turned really cold but I have got comments from > others > that they see the same thing and it is due to the deltas between my > station and > those near me which are 600 ft below in the Columbia River valley where it > is > warmer (we have 2 in of new snow here tonight, dogs were out having a great > old time in it). > > The one thing I have noticed with the acurite wireless data link is that > is appears > to get deep fades, not sure what takes it out but it does. > > I am trying to get IPv6 going here so I will have some routable addresses, > I am > on Hughesnet so the IP4 addys are not routable, but the IPv6 are, just > trying > to figure out how they handle some weirdness, and am trying to get up to > speed > on IPv6 anyhow. I may setup a separate router for IPv6 so I can butcher > things > and not lose my main path. Hughesnet will hand out up to 6 addys from the > satellite modem/router so I could have 6 routers hanging off of the thing > and > each one of them had a assignment. Their idea is that you use there box as > your local router, but I have WAY more than 5 devices here on line at this > time. > > > On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 9:38 AM, James Bertelson > wrote: > >> On 12/30/2016 08:32 AM, Chuck Hast wrote: >> > That is interesting, I have two of them, one I use for demo's and to >> setup >> > for >> > data captures in places where I might want a bit of data on a location, >> and >> > the >> > other is just here at the house. The demo one lost the console the other >> > day, >> > and I am trying to figure out what did it perhaps it was too much 440 >> Mhz RF >> > from my Icom radio... I will have to check that out. >> > >> > So are you using the sensor head and just decoding the packets as they >> are >> > sent? If so that is interesting because I am going to get the bad >> console >> > re- >> > placed but I have been thinking about trying to decode the data direct >> from >> > the sensor head as I have a location I want to set one up but it is >> remote >> > and >> > there is really not much need for the console if there is a way to >> capture >> > the >> > data off of the sensor head and use it that way. >> > >> > Are you still using the RTL_433 as the radio? >> >> Exactly - the sensor is outside, and I have an rpi with a nooelec SDR >> sitting in the house. The only thing you get from the console that the >> station doesn't have is baro pressure. For that I picked up an i2c >> sensor that's hooked up to the pi and read by the python script. >> >> I tossed it up here, if you want to give it a go. It's worked on both >> an original model B and a pi 3 for me. >> >> https://github.com/diffra/AcuRiteSDR >> -- >>James Bertelson >>ja...@bertelson.me >>:wq >> ___ >> PLUG mailing list >> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> > > > > -- > > Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- > Glass, five thousand years of history and getting better. > The only container material that the USDA gives blanket approval on. > > > -- Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- Glass, five thousand years of history and getting better. The only container material that the USDA gives blanket approval on. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] TEMPer v 25.6 Linux...
I will have to give that a try. I am about fed up with WU, the acurite does not send wind direction data (at least from the console) when there is no wind speed, WU then pushes you down as their stupid interface considers your station "broke" because it does not show wind direction when there is no wind. Tonight I went to check it and I am not even shown, so not sure what is going on, I see the WX data being sent and I get no complaints back about no being able to send it or it not being received so not sure what is going on. I am also on CWOP (AV216) and can also be seen on APRS as KP4DJT. Both of them show good data though CWOP seems to get heartburn from my DP readings since it has turned really cold but I have got comments from others that they see the same thing and it is due to the deltas between my station and those near me which are 600 ft below in the Columbia River valley where it is warmer (we have 2 in of new snow here tonight, dogs were out having a great old time in it). The one thing I have noticed with the acurite wireless data link is that is appears to get deep fades, not sure what takes it out but it does. I am trying to get IPv6 going here so I will have some routable addresses, I am on Hughesnet so the IP4 addys are not routable, but the IPv6 are, just trying to figure out how they handle some weirdness, and am trying to get up to speed on IPv6 anyhow. I may setup a separate router for IPv6 so I can butcher things and not lose my main path. Hughesnet will hand out up to 6 addys from the satellite modem/router so I could have 6 routers hanging off of the thing and each one of them had a assignment. Their idea is that you use there box as your local router, but I have WAY more than 5 devices here on line at this time. On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 9:38 AM, James Bertelson wrote: > On 12/30/2016 08:32 AM, Chuck Hast wrote: > > That is interesting, I have two of them, one I use for demo's and to > setup > > for > > data captures in places where I might want a bit of data on a location, > and > > the > > other is just here at the house. The demo one lost the console the other > > day, > > and I am trying to figure out what did it perhaps it was too much 440 > Mhz RF > > from my Icom radio... I will have to check that out. > > > > So are you using the sensor head and just decoding the packets as they > are > > sent? If so that is interesting because I am going to get the bad console > > re- > > placed but I have been thinking about trying to decode the data direct > from > > the sensor head as I have a location I want to set one up but it is > remote > > and > > there is really not much need for the console if there is a way to > capture > > the > > data off of the sensor head and use it that way. > > > > Are you still using the RTL_433 as the radio? > > Exactly - the sensor is outside, and I have an rpi with a nooelec SDR > sitting in the house. The only thing you get from the console that the > station doesn't have is baro pressure. For that I picked up an i2c > sensor that's hooked up to the pi and read by the python script. > > I tossed it up here, if you want to give it a go. It's worked on both > an original model B and a pi 3 for me. > > https://github.com/diffra/AcuRiteSDR > -- >James Bertelson >ja...@bertelson.me >:wq > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > -- Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- Glass, five thousand years of history and getting better. The only container material that the USDA gives blanket approval on. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] T430 fan problem under Debian but not Windows
I run Ubuntu Mate on a X-201 and a X-301, both of them run the fans, indeed I have them listed in Gkrellm and can see the speed vary as load varies on the machine. I have not really thought about it as seems that they are "just there", but I will look and see what it is doing. On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 8:23 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/31/2016 9:36 AM, Bill Barry wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 2:29 AM, Richard Owlett > wrote: > >> I just purchased a used T430 to replace a R61 which had died due > >> to a fan failure. > >> I've installed a minimal Jessie including what the installer > >> considers standard utilities and a very basic MATE DE. > >> > >> I used Synaptic to install "mate-system-tools". > >> An error message said "thinkfan post installation script returned > >> error exit status 1". > >> I checked for airflow - there was NONE. > >> Booted into Windows 7. There was warm airflow whose temperature > >> decreased with time. > >> I returned to Debian and attempted to reinstall "thinkfan". > >> Error message stated "attempted to reinstall E: Internal Error, > >> No file name for thinkfan:i386". > >> > >> Two questions: > >> > >> 1. How may I force the fan to run continuously at maximum speed. > >> Noise &/or power consumption is not important. > >> > >> 2. What/where is this "missing file"? Any diagnostic suggestions > > > > > > The lm-sensors package has utilities for measuring temperature and fan > > speed and setting the fan speed accordingly. That might be a good > > place to start. As for your specific error message I don't know what > > that is about. It could be what is causing lm-sensors to not do it's > > job. > > > > This might help > > http://www.lxle.net/forums/discussion/821/how-to-set-up- > thinkfan-on-a-lenovo-thinkpad-t430/p1 > > > > Bill > > > > I think I've installed lm-sensors but I have to double check. > I hadn't seen that your yet. > I'm beginning to get responses on the Debian user list. I'll > merge your info into what I'm getting there. > Thank you. > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > -- Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- Glass, five thousand years of history and getting better. The only container material that the USDA gives blanket approval on. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] T430 fan problem under Debian but not Windows
On 12/31/2016 9:36 AM, Bill Barry wrote: > On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 2:29 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: >> I just purchased a used T430 to replace a R61 which had died due >> to a fan failure. >> I've installed a minimal Jessie including what the installer >> considers standard utilities and a very basic MATE DE. >> >> I used Synaptic to install "mate-system-tools". >> An error message said "thinkfan post installation script returned >> error exit status 1". >> I checked for airflow - there was NONE. >> Booted into Windows 7. There was warm airflow whose temperature >> decreased with time. >> I returned to Debian and attempted to reinstall "thinkfan". >> Error message stated "attempted to reinstall E: Internal Error, >> No file name for thinkfan:i386". >> >> Two questions: >> >> 1. How may I force the fan to run continuously at maximum speed. >> Noise &/or power consumption is not important. >> >> 2. What/where is this "missing file"? Any diagnostic suggestions > > > The lm-sensors package has utilities for measuring temperature and fan > speed and setting the fan speed accordingly. That might be a good > place to start. As for your specific error message I don't know what > that is about. It could be what is causing lm-sensors to not do it's > job. > > This might help > http://www.lxle.net/forums/discussion/821/how-to-set-up-thinkfan-on-a-lenovo-thinkpad-t430/p1 > > Bill > I think I've installed lm-sensors but I have to double check. I hadn't seen that your yet. I'm beginning to get responses on the Debian user list. I'll merge your info into what I'm getting there. Thank you. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] T430 fan problem under Debian but not Windows
On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 2:29 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > I just purchased a used T430 to replace a R61 which had died due > to a fan failure. > I've installed a minimal Jessie including what the installer > considers standard utilities and a very basic MATE DE. > > I used Synaptic to install "mate-system-tools". > An error message said "thinkfan post installation script returned > error exit status 1". > I checked for airflow - there was NONE. > Booted into Windows 7. There was warm airflow whose temperature > decreased with time. > I returned to Debian and attempted to reinstall "thinkfan". > Error message stated "attempted to reinstall E: Internal Error, > No file name for thinkfan:i386". > > Two questions: > > 1. How may I force the fan to run continuously at maximum speed. > Noise &/or power consumption is not important. > > 2. What/where is this "missing file"? Any diagnostic suggestions The lm-sensors package has utilities for measuring temperature and fan speed and setting the fan speed accordingly. That might be a good place to start. As for your specific error message I don't know what that is about. It could be what is causing lm-sensors to not do it's job. This might help http://www.lxle.net/forums/discussion/821/how-to-set-up-thinkfan-on-a-lenovo-thinkpad-t430/p1 Bill ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] T430 fan problem under Debian but not Windows
I just purchased a used T430 to replace a R61 which had died due to a fan failure. I've installed a minimal Jessie including what the installer considers standard utilities and a very basic MATE DE. I used Synaptic to install "mate-system-tools". An error message said "thinkfan post installation script returned error exit status 1". I checked for airflow - there was NONE. Booted into Windows 7. There was warm airflow whose temperature decreased with time. I returned to Debian and attempted to reinstall "thinkfan". Error message stated "attempted to reinstall E: Internal Error, No file name for thinkfan:i386". Two questions: 1. How may I force the fan to run continuously at maximum speed. Noise &/or power consumption is not important. 2. What/where is this "missing file"? Any diagnostic suggestions? TIA ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
