Re: [PLUG] Root cannot delete file
On Mon, 30 Oct 2023, Bill Barry wrote: If there are no other files on it you could reformat it. Bill, I thought of that but am not sure if the installed files: ls /mnt/hd Autorun.inf* Icon1.ico* System Volume Information/ bkup1/ could be removed without FUBARing the M$ format. I just learned that I can use gfdisk to make the /dev/sdg1 partition then run `mkfs -t exfat /dev/sdg1' on it. Haven't done this before. Thanks, Rich
Re: [PLUG] Root cannot delete file
On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 3:35 PM Rich Shepard wrote: > On Mon, 30 Oct 2023, wes wrote: > > > I would also suggest running an fsck on that filesystem. > > wes, > > # fsck /dev/sdg1 > fsck from util-linux 2.27.1 > fsck.fat 3.0.28 (2015-05-16) > Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 0. > > The FS is exFAT. Interesting result. > > Thanks, > > Rich > If there are no other files on it you could reformat it. Bill
Re: [PLUG] Root cannot delete file
On Mon, 30 Oct 2023, wes wrote: I would also suggest running an fsck on that filesystem. wes, # fsck /dev/sdg1 fsck from util-linux 2.27.1 fsck.fat 3.0.28 (2015-05-16) Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 0. The FS is exFAT. Interesting result. Thanks, Rich
Re: [PLUG] Root cannot delete file
On Mon, 30 Oct 2023, Bill Barry wrote: Maybe it has nothing to do with the strange character in the filename, maybe it is set to immutable. Try lsattr Bill, # lsattr lsattr: Invalid argument While reading flags on ./8a203b79706a7fd3dcbeb5c173e4e8-134648.o
Re: [PLUG] Root cannot delete file
On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 12:28 PM Bill Barry wrote: > On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 1:18 PM Rich Shepard > wrote: > > > On Mon, 30 Oct 2023, Rich Shepard wrote: > > > > > I tried renaming without success. I'll try using mc (Midnight > Commander). > > > > mc also failed to remove that file. > > > > Rich > > > > Maybe it has nothing to do with the strange character in the filename, > maybe it is set to immutable. > > Try > lsattr > if there is an i for immutable then > chattr -i crazyfilename > > > Bill > I would also suggest running an fsck on that filesystem. -wes
Re: [PLUG] Root cannot delete file
On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 1:18 PM Rich Shepard wrote: > On Mon, 30 Oct 2023, Rich Shepard wrote: > > > I tried renaming without success. I'll try using mc (Midnight Commander). > > mc also failed to remove that file. > > Rich > Maybe it has nothing to do with the strange character in the filename, maybe it is set to immutable. Try lsattr if there is an i for immutable then chattr -i crazyfilename Bill
Re: [PLUG] Root cannot delete file
On Mon, 30 Oct 2023, Rich Shepard wrote: I tried renaming without success. I'll try using mc (Midnight Commander). mc also failed to remove that file. Rich
Re: [PLUG] Root cannot delete file
On Mon, 30 Oct 2023, Michael Ewan wrote: ls -l reports the number of blocks allocated to the directory. Thanks, Michael. Rich
Re: [PLUG] Root cannot delete file
ls -l reports the number of blocks allocated to the directory. On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 9:54 AM Rich Shepard wrote: > On Mon, 30 Oct 2023, Bill Barry wrote: > > > get the inode number from the first field returned by > > ls -li > > then delete based on that inode number > > find . -inum 123488 -delete > > Bill, > > # ls -li > total 12 > 4248357 -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11640 Oct 29 07:45 > 8a203b79706a7fd3dcbeb5c173e4e8-134?648.o* > > Why 12? There's only one non-hidden file there. > > # find . -inum 4248357 -delete > find: cannot delete `./8a203b79706a7fd3dcbeb5c173e4e8-134\021648.o': No > such file or directory > > Notice the `?' has been replaced by the octal \021. > > Thanks for the suggestion. > > Regards, > > Rich >
Re: [PLUG] Root cannot delete file
On Mon, 30 Oct 2023, Bill Barry wrote: get the inode number from the first field returned by ls -li then delete based on that inode number find . -inum 123488 -delete Bill, # ls -li total 12 4248357 -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11640 Oct 29 07:45 8a203b79706a7fd3dcbeb5c173e4e8-134?648.o* Why 12? There's only one non-hidden file there. # find . -inum 4248357 -delete find: cannot delete `./8a203b79706a7fd3dcbeb5c173e4e8-134\021648.o': No such file or directory Notice the `?' has been replaced by the octal \021. Thanks for the suggestion. Regards, Rich
Re: [PLUG] Root cannot delete file
On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 11:19 AM Rich Shepard wrote: get the inode number from the first field returned by ls -li then delete based on that inode number find . -inum 123488 -delete Bill
Re: [PLUG] Root cannot delete file
On Mon, 30 Oct 2023, Tomas Kuchta wrote:
find salmo-root -type f -exec rm -f {} \;
Tomas,
That also failed to remove the file.
If that doesn't help ask linux if someone has the file opened by:
fuser -a fileName
This returned no information, only the shell prompt.
Tried to chmod to remove the execute attribute, but that failed, too.
Of all files that were in salmo-root/ I wonder what changed this one and
made it immutable.
Sigh.
Thanks,
Rich
Re: [PLUG] Root cannot delete file
The other approach is to avoid the shell. Try this,
perl -e 'unlink $ARGV[0] or warn;'
On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 8:39 AM Tomas Kuchta
wrote:
> If the file name is the actual problem and not filesystem lock or similar:
> I deal with these files asking find to delete it for me this way:
> find salmo-root -type f -exec rm -f {} \;
>
> Yes, pay attention to all characters including spaces \ and ;
>
> If that doesn't help ask linux if someone has the file opened by:
> fuser -a fileName
>
> Best, Tomas
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2023, 16:30 Denis Heidtmann
> wrote:
>
> > Can it be renamed? How does a GUI deal with it?
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 7:20 AM Rich Shepard
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, 29 Oct 2023, Reid wrote:
> > >
> > > > Any luck with this?
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/746048/cant-delete-a-file-with-a-in-the-file-name
> > >
> > > Reid,
> > >
> > > Nope.
> > >
> > > However, using `ls -b' I learned that the `?' is octal \021. The ls man
> > > page
> > > did't suggest another option to view non-printable characters and my
> > > trial-and-error efforts to replace that parenthesis with `*' failed. So
> > did
> > > trying to use a wildcard after initial chars in the filename.
> > >
> > > > Also if it's the only file in the directory (maybe I misunderstood),
> > what
> > > > happens when you try to remove the whole directory (`rm -rf
> > > > `)?
> > >
> > > Initially I used `rm -rf salmo-root' and everything but that one file
> was
> > > removed.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Rich
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [PLUG] Root cannot delete file
On Mon, 30 Oct 2023, Denis Heidtmann wrote: Can it be renamed? How does a GUI deal with it? Denis, I tried renaming without success. I'll try using mc (Midnight Commander). Thanks, Rich
Re: [PLUG] Root cannot delete file
If the file name is the actual problem and not filesystem lock or similar:
I deal with these files asking find to delete it for me this way:
find salmo-root -type f -exec rm -f {} \;
Yes, pay attention to all characters including spaces \ and ;
If that doesn't help ask linux if someone has the file opened by:
fuser -a fileName
Best, Tomas
On Mon, Oct 30, 2023, 16:30 Denis Heidtmann
wrote:
> Can it be renamed? How does a GUI deal with it?
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 7:20 AM Rich Shepard
> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 29 Oct 2023, Reid wrote:
> >
> > > Any luck with this?
> > >
> >
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/746048/cant-delete-a-file-with-a-in-the-file-name
> >
> > Reid,
> >
> > Nope.
> >
> > However, using `ls -b' I learned that the `?' is octal \021. The ls man
> > page
> > did't suggest another option to view non-printable characters and my
> > trial-and-error efforts to replace that parenthesis with `*' failed. So
> did
> > trying to use a wildcard after initial chars in the filename.
> >
> > > Also if it's the only file in the directory (maybe I misunderstood),
> what
> > > happens when you try to remove the whole directory (`rm -rf
> > > `)?
> >
> > Initially I used `rm -rf salmo-root' and everything but that one file was
> > removed.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rich
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: [PLUG] Root cannot delete file
Can it be renamed? How does a GUI deal with it? On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 7:20 AM Rich Shepard wrote: > On Sun, 29 Oct 2023, Reid wrote: > > > Any luck with this? > > > https://askubuntu.com/questions/746048/cant-delete-a-file-with-a-in-the-file-name > > Reid, > > Nope. > > However, using `ls -b' I learned that the `?' is octal \021. The ls man > page > did't suggest another option to view non-printable characters and my > trial-and-error efforts to replace that parenthesis with `*' failed. So did > trying to use a wildcard after initial chars in the filename. > > > Also if it's the only file in the directory (maybe I misunderstood), what > > happens when you try to remove the whole directory (`rm -rf > > `)? > > Initially I used `rm -rf salmo-root' and everything but that one file was > removed. > > Thanks, > > Rich > > >
Re: [PLUG] Root cannot delete file
On Sun, 29 Oct 2023, Michael Ewan wrote: An eight bit character has been inserted into the file name indicated by ?, you should be able to see it with 'ls -b'. You can remove the file with a wildcard such as *. Michael, I had tried the `*' wildcard in multiple places without removing the file. And, as I responded to Reid's post, this one file was left after trying to remove the whole salmo-root/ directory. Thanks, Rich
Re: [PLUG] Root cannot delete file
On Sun, 29 Oct 2023, Reid wrote: Any luck with this? https://askubuntu.com/questions/746048/cant-delete-a-file-with-a-in-the-file-name Reid, Nope. However, using `ls -b' I learned that the `?' is octal \021. The ls man page did't suggest another option to view non-printable characters and my trial-and-error efforts to replace that parenthesis with `*' failed. So did trying to use a wildcard after initial chars in the filename. Also if it's the only file in the directory (maybe I misunderstood), what happens when you try to remove the whole directory (`rm -rf `)? Initially I used `rm -rf salmo-root' and everything but that one file was removed. Thanks, Rich
