Re: [PLUG] email services supporting IMAP

2023-11-19 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Interesting.  In 1993 the emerging NSFnet was not permitted to be connected
to commercial entities.  You must have had a special dispensation.  That
happened in 1995 as I recall...

Ted

-Original Message-
From: PLUG  On Behalf Of Rich Shepard
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2023 9:45 AM
To: Portland Linux/Unix Group 
Subject: Re: [PLUG] email services supporting IMAP

On Sat, 18 Nov 2023, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:


> Ziply has no restrictions on individuals at home getting business 
> accounts, Rich.

That's true. I've run my business from my house for 30 years and have had a
static IP address with all ISPs.

Rich



Re: [PLUG] email services supporting IMAP

2023-11-19 Thread Rich Shepard

On Sun, 19 Nov 2023, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:


Interesting. In 1993 the emerging NSFnet was not permitted to be connected
to commercial entities. You must have had a special dispensation. That
happened in 1995 as I recall...


Ted,

Well, thinking about timing I'll acknowledge that you're correct. Between
1993 and 1997 I had a dial-up connection to Aracnet (which became SpiritOne
before is suddenly shut down), and they provided mail service. In 1997 I
defenestrated to Linux and set up my own mail server using postfix using
ADSL until I had to find a new ISP. That was Verizon -> Frontier
Communications -> Ziply Fiber. I don't recall when I had fiber installed,
probably when Frontier was the ISP.

Rich



Re: [PLUG] email services supporting IMAP

2023-11-19 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
I was working at Central Point Software when it acquired Xtree in 1993.  I
flew down there to assist with the acquisition and returned with a Sparc and
Telebit TrailBlazer and a 9600bps dedicated dialup account to UUnet.
Somehow Xtree had wrangled that account from UUnet when they were doing
their Xtree for Unix  (the successor program is here, a fascinating
historical read  https://www.unixtree.org/  ) and that became CPS's first
"Internet" connection as I eventually setup the Microsoft SMTP Gateway
software for the original Microsoft Mail since I was the only one who knew
anything about The Internet.

In the meantime I had been doing UUCP dialup to Agora for several years.

I'll have to fire up unixtree and see what it's like, although I don't
generally use the GUI on Unixes...


Ted

-Original Message-
From: PLUG  On Behalf Of Rich Shepard
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2023 11:52 AM
To: Portland Linux/Unix Group 
Subject: Re: [PLUG] email services supporting IMAP

On Sun, 19 Nov 2023, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

> Interesting. In 1993 the emerging NSFnet was not permitted to be 
> connected to commercial entities. You must have had a special 
> dispensation. That happened in 1995 as I recall...

Ted,

Well, thinking about timing I'll acknowledge that you're correct. Between
1993 and 1997 I had a dial-up connection to Aracnet (which became SpiritOne
before is suddenly shut down), and they provided mail service. In 1997 I
defenestrated to Linux and set up my own mail server using postfix using
ADSL until I had to find a new ISP. That was Verizon -> Frontier
Communications -> Ziply Fiber. I don't recall when I had fiber installed,
probably when Frontier was the ISP.

Rich