Re: [PLUG] email issues

2024-01-04 Thread markcasimer
I put my charter IP address into http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx and 
received info that my IP address was blacklisted ... on the Spamhaus ZEN 
blacklist. I have no idea what that means. I assure you no one in this 
household is doing bad stuff on the internet. 

Charter support told me to contact my router manufacturer (Why, I wonder?). 

The quote I got from Charter was
"There is no way to assign this issue as it does not involve accessibility of 
services. And would not be able to further escalate the issue."
I see it as involving accessibility of services ... my charter email does not 
work, but I have had no success explaining that.

Have I lost Charter as my cable provider? Does anyone have advice on what I can 
do?

 -mark

-Original Message-
From: PLUG  On Behalf Of Ben Koenig
Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2024 1:02 PM
To: Portland Linux/Unix Group 
Subject: Re: [PLUG] email issues

On Tuesday, January 2nd, 2024 at 12:10 PM, markcasi...@comcast.net 
 wrote:

> I am unable to send charter ==> comcast
> 
> But I can send
> charter ==> IEEE, which is auto forwarded ==> comcast.
> 

That makes it look like comcast is having an issue specifically with charter. I 
would be curious to know if you can receive mail from other charter accounts. 
Is there anyone else you know on that service who can send you a test?

What's also odd is that you are not having issues with forwarded emails or the 
PLUG mailing list. PLUG sends emails on behalf of the sender which can cause 
some email services to silently reject the message. I have a similar issue on 
this proton account when other proton users post to PLUG. 

It is possible that comcast is refusing to accept that the issue is on their 
end because something they expect to see is missing from your charter message 
headers. The trick is getting past their T1 support team and getting someone 
who will actually diagnose the issue. Failing that, your only other option is 
to lawyer up.
-Ben



Re: [PLUG] Pacific Telephone ...

2024-01-04 Thread Russell Senior
On Thu, Jan 4, 2024, 18:48 Keith Lofstrom  wrote:

> [...]
>
> I wonder if Ainsworth paid royalties to Bell ...
>

> I watched a fun talk at 37c3 about keeping rotary dial phones functional
in a modern world:

https://media.ccc.de/v/37c3-11716-analog_rotary_phones_get_a_second_life_with_raspberry_pi

The speaker suggested that someone else altogether invented the telephone,
which might be well known, but if I ever knew it I had forgotten it. It is
in the first part of the talk. The rest is fun too. I opened an issue on
his GitHub requesting that he "TAKE MY MONEY", which he closed after a few
days as resolved, which is not quite true, since he hasn't taken my money
yet. Lol.


Re: [PLUG] Pacific Telephone ...

2024-01-04 Thread Keith Lofstrom
On Wed, Jan 03, 2024 at 10:53:21PM -0800, Russell Senior wrote:
> Pacific Telephone and Telegraph Company --(1961)--> Pacific NW Bell
> --(1988)--> US West --(2000)--> Qwest --(2011)--> CenturyLink (which
...

Thanks, Russell.  This Wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Bell#Northwest_acquisitions

says:

"Acquisitions over the years extended Pacific Telephone's territory into
Oregon, Washington, and northern Idaho"

It would be interesting to learn about the Oregon companies
that Pacific Telephone and Telegraph acquired.  
According to the Oregon History Project:

"Pioneer steamboat captain George Ainsworth brought the first telephone
to Oregon in 1878, just two years after Alexander Graham Bell patented
the new technology. The first telephone conversation in the state took
place in Portland between Ainsworth and his wife on a line that
connected his office with his home."

I wonder if Ainsworth paid royalties to Bell ...

This paywalled Jstor article:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/20611147

... points to a December 1938 Oregon Historical Quarterly 
article, which I don't have time to read.

Perhaps not relevant to PLUG and Linux, except that
I imagine the geeks who cobbled up Portland's first
telephone systems were a lot like the geeks who cobbled
up Portland's first hobby computer networks a century
later (without involving steamboats).

Perhaps Portland geeks will cobble up the first telepathy
networks a few decades from now, though I fear that future
spam will be canned meat composed of our brain cells.

-

Perhaps I have more important things to think about,
like configuring SVG-image math equations in my own
experimental mediawiki instances.  Wikipedia uses a
mathoid server, but I'm aiming for standalone content
that I can also deploy on net-disconnected laptops.

Keith

-- 
Keith Lofstrom  kei...@keithl.com


Re: [PLUG] fdisk not recognizing external SATA HDD

2024-01-04 Thread MC_Sequoia
"PRO TIP: Connect JUST the USB adapter - no drive - and check dmesg.
It should not disconnect (just show 'media removed') and the USB adapter MUST 
be listed in 'lsusb'. For example, for my 3.0 USB adapter."

I didn't see this mentioned or perhaps you already now, but the best way to see 
log mssgs realtime is the command: tail -f /var/log/messages

Here's the command output when I disconnect and reconnect my usb speaker.


Link] on usb-:00:1d.0-1.2/input0
Jan  4 16:46:34 mc-bunsen kernel: [16035.930728] usb 3-1.2: USB disconnect, 
device number 7
Jan  4 16:46:38 mc-bunsen kernel: [16039.479790] usb 3-1.2: new full-speed USB 
device number 8 using ehci-pci
Jan  4 16:46:38 mc-bunsen kernel: [16039.594705] usb 3-1.2: New USB device 
found, idVendor=05a7, idProduct=40fe, bcdDevice= 1.00
Jan  4 16:46:38 mc-bunsen kernel: [16039.594714] usb 3-1.2: New USB device 
strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
Jan  4 16:46:38 mc-bunsen kernel: [16039.594717] usb 3-1.2: Product: Bose Micro 
SoundLink
Jan  4 16:46:38 mc-bunsen kernel: [16039.594721] usb 3-1.2: Manufacturer: Bose 
Corporation
Jan  4 16:46:38 mc-bunsen kernel: [16039.594723] usb 3-1.2: SerialNumber: 
Q1222049006784949K80080
Jan  4 16:46:38 mc-bunsen kernel: [16039.618227] input: Bose Corporation Bose 
Micro SoundLink Consumer Control as 
/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.0/usb3/3-1/3-1.2/3-1.2:1.0/0003:05A7:40FE.000C/input/input51
Jan  4 16:46:38 mc-bunsen kernel: [16039.676337] hid-generic 
0003:05A7:40FE.000C: input,hiddev2,hidraw5: USB HID v1.11 Device [Bose 
Corporation Bose Micro SoundLink] on usb-:00:1d.0-1.2/input0

Also, check to see if the drive shows up in your bios prior to OS bootup. For 
example, when I want to boot off a usb thumb drive, it has to bee seen and 
mounted by the BIOS during initial hardware boot-up. 

HTH



Re: [PLUG] NON-ANNOUNCEMENT ANNOUNCEMENT: PLUG vs UnPLUG this month?

2024-01-04 Thread Kevin Williams
In case Michael is not able to secure his plans in time, let's meet at 
the Lucky Lab Brew Pub in Southeast like we did a couple months back.


7pm tonight

Lucky Labrador Brew Pub

915 SE Hawthorne Blvd, Portland, OR 97214


On 1/2/24 14:15, Russell Senior wrote:
Michael and I were talking about what was going to happen this month. 
Last month, I had threatened to give a talk about my ancient tape 
recovery adventure, and I was considering what it would take to pull 
it together when it dawned on me that I probably won't be in town that 
day, as I am committed to going to Seattle on January 4, our nominal 
meeting night. We have Michael and the venue is available, but we 
(afaik) have no speaker, and I am sadly not available to organize an 
UnPLUG.


In other news, there are some hopeful murmurs about getting back into 
the PSU Engineering Building to use as a meeting venue, but so far 
they are just murmurs and further murmuring is on hold for the next 
couple weeks. I'll pipe up if there is more progress on that front.




Re: [PLUG] fdisk not recognizing external SATA HDD

2024-01-04 Thread Rich Shepard

On Thu, 4 Jan 2024, King Beowulf wrote:


As Russell mentioned, your USB adapter is disconnecting, that is why
/dev/sdg is AWOL.  Are you sure you are plugging into a the correct
port?  Bad USB adapter?


Ed,

The disconnect was intentional. When fdisk -l did not display /dev/sdg/
after several attempts I gave up for the day.


PRO TIP: Connect *JUST* the USB adapter - no drive - and check dmesg. 
It should not disconnect (just show 'media removed') and the USB adapter
*MUST* be listed in 'lsusb'. For example, for my 3.0 USB adapter


Will do this.

Thanks,

Rich


Re: [PLUG] fdisk not recognizing external SATA HDD

2024-01-04 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 3 Jan 2024, Russell Senior wrote:


The last message seems to say that the USB device disconnected a couple
minutes after it was plugged in.


Russell,

Yes, that's when I shut it down. The dmesg log was from my earlier attempt;
will re-do today.


The sd in sdg stands for scsi disk. Prior to nvme, in Linux, storage tends
to be treated as scsi disks because regardless of connection technology
(USB, SATA, SAS, etc) the underlying commands sent to devices were scsi
commands.


Thanks for clarifying.

Rich