Re: [PLUG] Mint 14 Xfce issues

2013-05-31 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:36 PM, John Jason Jordan  wrote:
> On Thu, 30 May 2013 19:28:22 -0700
> Benjamin Kerensa  dijo:
>
>>Have you found the gaping security issues yet?
>
> No, but I did find the gaping video bug in Ubuntu.

Its actually an upstream bug and the only reason its not affecting
Mint yet is because Mint is shipping older packages.
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47288 indeed its
affecting both Ubuntu and Fedora
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61287 but is not a Ubuntu
or Fedora bug.




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Re: [PLUG] Mint 14 Xfce issues

2013-05-30 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On May 28, 2013 7:30 PM, "John Jason Jordan"  wrote:
>
> My desktop computer has only three functions: Stream internet radio,
> play videos, and serve as a backup method to get on the net when I
> hopelessly mess up my laptop. It ran Lucid until a few months ago when
> I made a fresh installation of Xubuntu 12.04. Unfortunately, there is a
> problem with Xubuntu 12.04 and the graphics (Geforce 6150 on the
> motherboard) causing intermittent lockups in X. A week ago I decided to
> try Mint 14 Xfce, which I ran for many days just from the live CD. No
> problems with lockups, so yesterday I installed it, wiping out Xubuntu.
>
> But now I find numerous problems with it. For starters, in the terminal
> the "jjj@Devil10" is in Mint green. I can't stand that color, and
> besides it's really hard to read. I can't find any setting to change it,
> although I can change the color of the background and the rest of the
> text. I installed Gnome-terminal, but it also comes up with the same
> color. Must be a Mint thing. Is there a way to excise Mint green, or
> did I make a bad distro choice?
>
> Also, I can ask questions on the Xfce forums, but to do so I should say
> what version of Xfce I have. How can I find out what version of Xfce I
> have?

Have you found the gaping security issues yet?
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[PLUG] Clackamas Library Xubuntu Troubleshooting Talk

2013-05-14 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
There is a free Xubuntu Troubleshooting Talk at the Clackamas County
Library tonight starting at 6:30pm to 7:30pm that I will be giving if
you want to come and learn some ways to troubleshoot Xubuntu common
problems and get help.

Where: 13793 SE Sieben Park Way  Clackamas, OR 97015

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Re: [PLUG] Happy 13.04 Release Day!

2013-04-26 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
Ubuntu with Unity is regular Ubuntu Ubuntu Gnome is a Gnome Flavor
thats officially supported by the Ubuntu Community and a developer who
works in the Gnome and Ubuntu Community.

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 7:41 PM, John Jason Jordan  wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:37:23 -0700
> Benjamin Kerensa  dijo:
>
>
>
> Do I have it understood correctly that Ubuntu GNOME is what we now call
> "regular" Ubuntu?
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[PLUG] Happy 13.04 Release Day!

2013-04-25 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
Hello PLUG Enthusiasts!

I just wanted to wish those of you who use Ubuntu or one of it's
community flavors a happy release day! I hear OSU OSL and PSU's Ubuntu
Mirrors are full of nice traffic as people upgrade!

The 13.04 release notes for Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Lubuntu/Gnomebuntu
and shiny new Ubuntu Kylin are available here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseNotes

I think one of the best things that landing in 13.04 is major
optimization for speed across a variety of packages and also some
power consumption improvements among all the new features.

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Re: [PLUG] OSCON

2013-04-13 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
There is a company in Tigard that will do full size color booth banners for
under $100 I can't remember the exist price... I think they are Portland
Banner Co but I could be confusing the name.

On Apr 13, 2013 7:48 PM, "John Jason Jordan"  wrote:
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> On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:06:31 -0700
> Michael Dexter  dijo:
>
> >I have requested a dot org booth for PLUG at OSCON.
> >
> >Thank you everyone who has volunteered to occupy the booth at past
> >events and I trust that some of you will be interested in doing it
> >again or for the first time.
> >
> >Given the limited availability of booths, should PLUG receive one, I
> >welcome other local groups to provide brochures, stickers and the like
> >to bring attention to their presumably-awesome activities.
> >
> >The response will be in May and let's hope for the best!
>
> In past years I provided a home-made banner that I created by taping
> together 12 x 18 sheets (the largest my big printer can handle). But at
> last year's OSCON Michael showed up with some cool pictures and stuff
> that he did at (Costco?) for a cheap price.
>
> It would be a good idea to have a really nice PLUG banner. I'll spring
> for the money and even go get it done if someone can confirm where the
> cheap places are.
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Re: [PLUG] new notebook for Linux

2013-04-12 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Randy Stapilus  wrote:
> My wife, who has been using a MacBook (now almost 7 years old), has decided
> she'd like her next notebook to use Linux Ubuntu. I've been using it for
> years and been happy with it, and have installed Ubuntu on both a laptop
> and a desktop. Dual booting with Windows might be useful but not at all
> necessary - neither us have any plans to use Windows on the machine. The
> question now, in these days of Windows 8 and UEFI, is, what would be a good
> notebook to use, and whether dual booting is even much practical, or
> whether getting a machine with no OS or one with Ubuntu pre-installed would
> be a good idea. Preferably in somewhere near PDX, though we're open to
> shipping. Budget runs up to $600 or so.
>
> Today we picked up a Lenovo ideapad Z585, which I was told ought to work
> for dual booting. But that's been a generic statement, and information
> about making it happen has been spotty. Until I'm confident of an Ubuntu
> install the box will not be opened.

Ubuntu supports UEFI The developer who added that support lives
right here in Portland.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI

>Indications via web searching so far
> are mixed. (I don't care to pay the $70+ restocking fee imposed once the
> box is opened.) If I can't so satisfy myself, it goes back to the store.
> I've been googling the subject, and comments on dual booting w/Windows 8
> (and UEFI), from the Ubuntu site and elsewhere, seem to be all over the
> map. Any thoughts, or this machine or others?

I'm a fan of Dell Hardware and like their new XPS 13 (Ubuntu
pre-installed) although thats out of the range you suggested... That
being said I have also tried out System76 and love their Pangolin
notebook.

>
>


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Re: [PLUG] So now the desktop computer is locking up

2013-03-25 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
Can you reproduce it? If its possible for you to reproduce you could
gather a trace or even review logs and file a bug on whatever package
is causing the lock up which would help Ubuntu Developers like myself
get it sorted out.

On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 9:51 PM, John Jason Jordan  wrote:
> Previously it was the Fedora 16 laptop, discussed here previously.
> Probably a hardware fault, but so far undiagnosed.
>
> And now a few days ago the Xubuntu 12.04 desktop (fresh install a month
> ago) locked up while streaming internet radio. Tonight it stopped while
> watching a DVD. The audio continued, but the video froze and the mouse
> and keyboard were dead.
>
> What is with my computers?
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Re: [PLUG] Where did Arial go? Ubuntu 12.04 LibreOffice Writer

2013-02-14 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
Its not a Ubuntu/Canonical issue we ship the source package for those fonts
as is so if their is a issue its upstream but you can file a bug and we
will look into it.

On Feb 13, 2013 10:28 PM, "King Beowulf"  wrote:
>
> On 02/13/2013 12:49 PM, Richard C. Steffens wrote:
> >
> > There's only a README file that directory. It says:
> >
> > --
> > License refused.
> >
> > Please reinstall the ttf-mscorefonts-installer package (e.g. via
> >apt-get install --reinstall ttf-mscorefonts-installer
> > to get prompted for the license again.
> > --
>
> You may want to consider open source fonts - no EULA, licenses, etc to
> deal with.  Don't forget: if you click YES to the EULA, you can legally
> bound to comply with the Microsoft font usage restrictions. Instead,
> Check out:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_fonts
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Libertine
>
> and
>
> http://www.openfontlibrary.org/
>
> In Libreoffice, you can go to "TOOLS - OPTIONS" then Libreoffice -
> Fonts  to define a font substitution table.
>
> You can also check out Bitstream Vera:
> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/ttf-bitstream-vera/1.10/
> The DejaVa fonts shipped with most linux distros are derivatives of
> Vera:
> http://dejavu-fonts.org/wiki/index.php?title=Bitstream_Vera_derivatives
>
> >
> >Aren't all these "improvements" wonderful?
> >
>
> You get want you pay for.  Would you rather have Ubuntu/Canonical sued
> of existence?  I'm not a stickler for stripping my Linux installs
> completely clear of all  proprietary non F/OSS software. Some is useful
> and provided with reasonable licensing (games, drivers, etc).  But I try
> to limit corporate intrusion if OSS alternatives are available.
>
> That's my 2 cents.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [PLUG] upgrade from 11.04 to 12.04

2013-01-18 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Denis Heidtmann 
wrote:
> I need to (sometime) upgrade my desktop from ubuntu 11.04 LTS to
> something 12.04 LTS.  Not being happy with Unity, I think I have
> settled on XFCE.
>
> The choices I solicit opinions on are:
> 1)upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04 then switch to XFCE
> 2)Fresh install of Xubuntu 12.04.
>
> I do not see an option to upgrade from Ubuntu 11.04 to Xubuntu 12.04,
> but if such an option exists, make it #3.
>
> 1) is easier, but others have reported problems with upgrades.  Also,
> switching to XFCE after installing Unity some people have complained
> about.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Denis


I always suggest a clean install that way you do not have any lingering
Unity packages or dependencies.


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Re: [PLUG] 64 bit Ubuntu 12.04

2013-01-18 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Richard C. Steffens  wrote:
> When one goes to the download page for Ubuntu 12.04 on finds two options
> for the Desktop CD, on labeled "PC (Intel x86) desktop CD," and the
> other labeled, "64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD." The description of the
> first option makes it clear that it applies to, "Intel/AMD/etc type
> processors." The description of the second option is less clear. It
> says, "Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the
> AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core
> 2)." The description of the processor chip in my test machine doesn't
> use any of the words in the Ubuntu 64 bit description, but from recent
> web research it appears that it does indeed apply to my processor.
>
> So, just to be sure, does the 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD really apply
> to my Intel processor?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dick Steffens
>

Hi Dick,

The amount of hardware that would not be supported on AMD64 is getting
smaller and smaller in fact there are talks to make amd64 our default
.iso in 13.04 or no later than next LTS. You should be fine and the
benefits of running amd64 surely outweigh any reason for not using the
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Re: [PLUG] Wallpaper only after nVidia driver installation in Ubuntu 12.04

2012-12-03 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
You can use the newer nvidia ppa that the Ubuntu Desktop Team has for Steam
that should bump you to the latest. The ppa name slips my mind.

On Dec 1, 2012 11:39 AM, "King Beowulf"  wrote:
>
> On 11/30/2012 10:07 PM, Richard C. Steffens wrote:
> > On 11/30/2012 09:26 PM, Richard C. Steffens wrote:
> >> I have Ubuntu 12.04 running on my test system. I added an nVidia card
to
> >> the system <...>
> > Further searching turned up:
> >
> > -
> > jockey-text --help
> > jockey-text -l
> > jockey-text -e xorg:nvidia_current
> > -
> >
> > as a way to enable the nvidia driver from the terminal.
> > xorg:nvidia_current was enabled. But there was xorg:nvidia_173 listed
> > above current. I ran jockey-text -e xorg:nvidia_173 and rebooted. Now, I
> > do have the expected menu bar, and can run programs. Foobilliard runs
> > better than with the default video driver, but is not as smooth as on my
> > other machine. I suspect that's because the card in the test machine is
> > an old Quadro NVS 285 card with only 64 MB of total memory.
> >
> > However, I still don't have the second monitor. I ran nvidia-settings.
> > It only sees one screen. On the X Server Display Configuration page
> > there is a message that says,
> >
> > -
> > Unable to load X-Server Display Configuration page:
> >
> > The NVIDIA X driver on gateway-u 1204:0.0 is not new
> > enough to support the nvidia-settings Display Configuration page.
> > -
> >
> > A somewhat odd thing: NVIDIA X SErver Settings on the test machine knows
> > what nVidia card is installed, the Quadro NVS 285. NVIDIA X Server
> > Settings on this machine says GPU 0 (Unknown). Right off hand I don't
> > remember what model card it is, but it does have 512 MB of memory.
> >
> Nvidia-173 and 295 are absolutely antique.  You'll need to check the
> exact card models to make sure you load the correct drivers. for
> Example, in a terminal:
>
> sudo /sbin/lspci
>
> should display what cards the kernel picks up.In my case,
>
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT
> 430] (rev a1)
>
> You might have better luck with
>
> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-310.19-driver
>
> or
>
> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-304.64-driver
>
> for the NVS 285.
>
> Also, make sure any motherboard GPU is disabledandthat the nouveau
> kernel module(open source driver) is blacklisted. Anyway, that's about
> all I can suggest since I run Slackware!  Ubuntu is just too damn
> windowy for my taste!
>
> -Ed
>
>
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Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu: Testing Wired Network Connectivity

2012-12-03 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
Ctrl Alt + T and yes you will need either dhcp or to assign and static IP
and setup routing otherwise the host won't know how to connect which is
nothing to do with Ubuntu but has everything to do with the Network Stack.

On Dec 1, 2012 9:32 AM, "Rich Shepard"  wrote:
>
>I installed ubuntu-12.10 on a Toshiba Satellite portable which is to be
> sent to someone across the country. Wireless networking has always worked
on
> this host, but wired networking did not. I need to test the wired
networking
> before it's packaged and shipped and would like assistance from a ubuntu
> expert.
>
>It's a full, vanilla installation; I just let it do its own thing.
Ergo,
> no network setup with a host name or static IP address. I don't run a DHCP
> server here since there are only a handful of hosts and static IP
addresses
> have worked just fine for many years.
>
>This ubuntu seems very Microsoft-ish; there is a row of icons on the
left
> side and I have not found how to open a terminal window to try to figure
out
> what's not working. Sigh.
>
>Can wired networking be tested without my setting up a dhcp server
> locally?
>
>How can I find a virtual console on this host? With the xubuntu it
> replaced there was no problem with having everything hidden, but this
> stymies me.
>
> TIA,
>
> Rich
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[PLUG] Netflix on Ubuntu

2012-12-01 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
I was wonder how many of your now watching Netflix on Ubuntu?
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Re: [PLUG] Is it wise to add other DEs once Ubuntu 12.04 is installed?

2012-11-26 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Dale Snell  wrote:

> On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 13:39:27 -0800
> C W  wrote:
>
> > Is it wise to add other DEs once Ubuntu 12.04 is installed?
> >
> > Hey Everybody,
> >
> > I have a friend who installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on his work desktop PC.
> > He's spent the last month or more getting his PC set up the way he
> > likes it.  The problem is, he's having problems with Firefox that I'm
> > not having on KDE Mint 13 LTS.  Also, he's not liking Unity, in
> > general.  He'd like to add Kubuntu desktop, or another DE.  He's
> > concerned that this might make things more likely to break in the
> > long run.  He might be right about that.  He & I both like to err on
> > the side of caution & stability, using only LTS releases, & sticking
> > with an install for years, putting a lot of time & effort into
> > setting up the computer just the way each one of us likes it.  In
> > other words, not the popular GNU/Linux geek bleeding edge approach.
> > What do you all think?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Elcaset
>
> In my experience, adding a DE/WM is not a problem.  Removing one,
> on the other hand, can open a large can of worms.  Hideous, ugly,
> mutant worms with nasty, sharp teeth and a bad smell.  But if you
> never run the DE that you don't like, there shouldn't be any
> trouble.  I've run multiple DEs before with not problems.
>
> As for Firefox, you'll have to describe the troubles before we can
> help troubleshoot them.
>
> Just my $0.02.
>
> --Dale
>
>
The can of warms is because apt-get will often remove dependencies that
need to stay but there are some decent How To's out there on adding DE's
and then later removing them without breaking your install. AskUbuntu.com
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Re: [PLUG] Is it wise to add other DEs once Ubuntu 12.04 is installed?

2012-11-26 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
Its totally fine to run multiple desktop environments on one install in
fact the Lightdm Logon Screen fully supports multiple desktops and will
show a icon for each one.

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 1:39 PM, C W  wrote:

> Is it wise to add other DEs once Ubuntu 12.04 is installed?
>
> Hey Everybody,
>
> I have a friend who installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on his work desktop PC.
> He's spent the last month or more getting his PC set up the way he likes
> it.  The problem is, he's having problems with Firefox that I'm not having
> on KDE Mint 13 LTS.  Also, he's not liking Unity, in general.  He'd like to
> add Kubuntu desktop, or another DE.  He's concerned that this might make
> things more likely to break in the long run.  He might be right about
> that.  He & I both like to err on the side of caution & stability, using
> only LTS releases, & sticking with an install for years, putting a lot of
> time & effort into setting up the computer just the way each one of us
> likes it.  In other words, not the popular GNU/Linux geek bleeding edge
> approach.  What do you all think?
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [PLUG] Victor upgraded to Ubuntu 12.something

2012-11-23 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 11:12 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:44:02 -0800
> Victor Soich  dijo:
>
> >Dear Plug clinic,
> >
> >I don't like my Ubuntu 12.something.  I can't figure out what programs
> >are on my machine.  There is no menu.  I want to go back to 10.04.  Or
> >I want to put on Mint or Debian on my desktop computer.  I really
> >don't relish hauling my desktop computer down to the clinic, with my
> >monitor, printer, et. al.  Can I get help backing up my files, blowing
> >away Ubuntu 12.something, and putting Debian on my machine, and make
> >sure I can surf the internet, and be able to print, all in the span of
> >4 hours.  I've had issues with all these things in the past, and each
> >time it took an inordinate amount of time.
> >
> >On second thought, I may be getting a laptop, and putting Linux from
> >Scratch, or Debian on it, or whatever more sophisticated people than I
> >suggest.  Once I get that working to my satisfaction, I'll blow away
> >my Ubuntu 12.something.  Unless there some quick trick to go back to
> >10.04, I'll leave well enough alone.  Is there a mechanism to roll
> >back the operating system, so to speak?
>
> I hear you about Ubuntu 12.something. I suspect your complaint is more
> about Gnome 3 than Ubuntu, at least, that's my complaint. Some love
> the new look, and others hate it.  As for rolling back the OS, that is
> not generally possible. But, as I just said, I think your problem is
> more with the desktop than the version of the OS.
>

 You mean Unity?

>
> I might suggest Xubuntu instead of Ubuntu. Xubuntu has the Xfce desktop
> instead of Gnome 3, and it looks and acts a lot more like Gnome 2.
>

Xubuntu is an excellent Official Community Flavor in fact the folks at
FreeGeek will be transitioning their typically older spec "FreeKBoxes" to
Xubuntu 12.04 next month. Notably though you can easily switch desktop
environments on Ubuntu by simply installing the Desktop Environment of your
choice without the hassle of needing to format or attempt to "roll back" or
migrate data.



>
> I also suggest you explore other distros such as Fedora and OpenSuse.
>
> I have live CDs of all the above except Debian. Debian is designed to
> be installed over the net, so there is just a very small bootable CD.
> Installing over the net is not a good idea at the Clinic due to limited
> bandwidth.
>
> Bring whatever you want to the Clinic and we'll burn CDs and play
> around so you can see alternatives.
>

I may be at the Clinic on the 16th if the Debian SOC does their Bug
Squashing Party on the same day so if anyone needs assistance configuring
their desktop I would be glad to help.

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Re: [PLUG] Please Google, stop trying to be so helpful

2012-10-24 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 8:35 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:20:49 -0700
> nick  dijo:
>
> >Do you have better luck by using multi-signon?
>
> What is multi-signon?
>

http://support.google.com/accounts/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1721977



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Re: [PLUG] Netbook function keys

2012-10-24 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Denis Heidtmann  wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:05 AM, John Jason Jordan 
> wrote:
> > On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:26:09 -0700
> > Denis Heidtmann  dijo:
> >
> >>> Might I ask why you didn't install Xubuntu 12.10 amd64 if you wanted
> >>> XFCE? Your still going to have tidbits that Unity needs if you throw
> >>> XFCE on top while if you use Xubuntu your getting a pure XFCE
> >>> experience.
> >
> >>Ignorance, basically, although the "amd" makes me wonder if it is
> >>suitable for an Intel machine. Thanks for the suggestion.
> >
> > Ignorance and miscommunication. Denis said "Ubuntu" and I didn't
> > realize until after he installed it that he intended to run Xfce.
> >
> > Because his netbook has no optical drive we had to make a bootable USB
> > drive. My computer has Fedora 16 which comes with a utility to make a
> > bootable USB, but it won't work with anything but Fedora images.
> > However, I had previously installed UNetbootin on the recommendation
> > that it could make a bootable USB drive out of any distro image. At the
> > Clinic Sunday was the first time I ever tried to use it. I am happy to
> > report that it made Denis' USB drive bootable with 12.10, exactly as
> > advertised.
> >
> > So Denis, if you want to start over with Xubuntu, install UNetbootin,
> > download Xubuntu, and repeat what we did at the Clinic. No guarantees
> > that it will solve the other issues you have, however, but at least it
> > will not have any unnecessary parts of other desktop environments in
> > it.
>
> Thanks, John.  I have little hope that a fresh install of Xubuntu will
> solve the function key problems, but it is certainly worth a try.  If
> it does not, I will be looking at another choice.
>
> -Denis
>

Denis you could also try to change the keybindings to get them working.

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Re: [PLUG] Clinic, Ubuntu Unity (RANT)

2012-10-24 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Keith Lofstrom wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 03:53:03PM -0700, Michael Dexter wrote:
> > On 10/24/12 11:59 AM, Keith Lofstrom wrote:
> > >On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:01:32PM -0700, Benjamin Kerensa wrote:
> > >>>A whole clinic is required to show people how to install Gnome on
> Ubuntu?
> >
> > Ubuntu is an African concept of 'humanity towards others'
>
> Hey Michael and Benjamin:
>
> I think Benjamin was confused about all the different things
> we do at the clinic, about my snarky announcements (no, Bill
> Gates and Steve Balmer do not show up for help with Linux),
> and the reasons for my idiosyncratic opinions about media
> consumption software.  I am not seeing his side of the
> conversation (I get the list digested, and only CC's sent
> to me) so perhaps Ben is ranting about my rant.  I probably
> should have toned it down a bit.
>

Correct I was asking because I had intended to stop by to learn more until
Michael decided to be disrespectful.

>
> I am passionate about resisting America's lethal (literally,
> I can show you the research) addiction to media, but on the
> other hand, I have fast hardware for scientific computing
> because gamers demand it for entertainment.  I would rather
> a few hundred thousand a year did not die of diabetes- and
> obesity-related illnesses in order to provide me with the
> tools I need for research.
>

Cool. I'm passionate about Ubuntu, Debian and Mozilla.


>
> But as long as the hardware is available, and the distros
> I depend on are not so damaged that I can't use them for
> my purposes, the life-waste and self-destruction of others
> is not my decision to make.  Just please, remember that
> some of us Morlocks are laboring down in the bowels of the
> machine so the Eloi can amuse themselves in the sunlight.
> H.G. Wells got the "Time Machine" story wrong;  the Morlocks
> were not attacking the Eloi out of malice, they were just
> protecting the system from lusers: http://xkcd.com/705/
>
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Re: [PLUG] Linux Laptop Reviews

2012-10-23 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Tim Wescott  wrote:

> My Google-Fu fails me.  Are there any up-to-date sites that have
> trustworthy reviews of laptops?  Are there any up-to-date sites that
> have good information on various laptops and their compatibility to
> Linux?  Are there any that do both at once?
>
> I'm thinking of replacing my venerable old System 76 machine, for which
> it is getting hard to find batteries.  Given that this thing has carried
> me for somewhere in the neighborhood of ten years, I'm mightily tempted
> to go with another System 76, but I'd like to do at least _some_
> research first.
>
> --
>
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> Control & Communications systems, circuit & software design.
>
>
> So I have tried every laptops from all the major vendors in the U.S. that
ship with Linux... I like System 76 and the new Dell Sputnik Laptop (XPS
13) but ZaReason also makes some good laptops and locally here in Portland
CTL is now making Ubuntu Laptops and Desktops.

HP is also rolling some Ubuntu All-In-One's out soon.



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Re: [PLUG] Netbook function keys

2012-10-23 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Denis Heidtmann
wrote:

> John assisted in getting Ubuntu 12.10 64 bit installed on my ASUS
> EeePC 1015PEM.  Not wanting to face the frustration of Unity I
> immediately downloaded XFCE 4.10.  It mostly runs OK to the extent I
> have tested it, but at least some of the function keys do not do what
> they should: fnF3 should toggle the touchpad (it appears to do
> nothing) ; fnF10 should toggle the sound (it shuts it off but not back
> on, but displays the little graphic indicating speaker on/off).  I had
> similar problems with my earlier attempt at Ubuntu (12.04) and XFCE
> (version likely was 4.8).  I posted to their forum but got only one
> response since May.  That one response sent me to
>
> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Talk:UltraNav#Script_for_switching_state_of_TouchPad_and_TrackPoint
> ,
> which I found less than satisfactory.  I am not wanting write a bunch
> of scripts to do what XFCE should do.
>
> The mixer indicates the speaker off when it is, and will turn it back
> on, so that is not too bad.  But the touchpad is more of a problem.
>
> In Unity the keys work as expected.
>
> Ideas?
>
> -Denis
>
>
Might I ask why you didn't install Xubuntu 12.10 amd64 if you wanted XFCE?
Your still going to have tidbits that Unity needs if you throw XFCE on top
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Re: [PLUG] Linux Clinic Sunday October 21

2012-10-23 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Keith Lofstrom wrote:

> Come one, come all, to the Ubuntu/Amazon branded Linux Clinic.
> Celebrating the addition of Amazon ads to the Unity dashboard
> [ NO STOP NOT THE CATTLE PROD AIEE ]
>
> Okay, I don't like Unity, and I hate ads on my computer.  If
> you want to use Ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10, come to the Linux
> Clinic at 1pm, at Free Geek 1731 SE 10th Avenue, Portland
> and we can help you restore your desktop to Gnome goodness,
> or at least remove Amazon from your dashboard if you like
> Unity ( for heaven's sakes, /why???/).
>
> We start at 1PM and run until 5PM, but /please/ don't show up
> at 430PM and expect help - we'll be busy with the people that
> showed up at 400PM.
>
> Or bring any other Linux problem, and we will help you replace
> it with an entirely different Linux problem.  We've got wired
> and wireless ethernet, displays, meece and keyboards, a few
> repair parts, and friendly volunteers who sometimes manage to
> suppress their smug superiority long enough to help.  We will
> probably have coffee, oddball snacks, bad puns, comaraderie,
> and shelter from the rain.  So bring your machine and your
> questions, and leave with the sure knowledge that you now can
> fix your machine and software (probably better than we can).
>
> The clinic happens every third Sunday, unless we forget the
> key or Portland is crushed under a moving wall of ice (a
> common occurence around January).  See you Sunday!
>
> Keith
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A whole clinic is required to show people how to install Gnome on Ubuntu?
As for the Amazon Results a simple click in Privacy Settings turns them off
or you can remove the package entirely with sudo apt-get remove
unity-lens-shopping

For those who attended the Release Party I think they have a better idea of
where the Unity Desktop Environment is going and how more results will
evolve in 13.04 whether it be product results or being able to search
Google Maps in the Dash or better yet integration with just about any site
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Re: [PLUG] Linux Clinic Sunday October 21

2012-10-23 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 8:51 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:29:30 -0700
> Tony Rick  dijo:
>
> >Alternate install images (along with some install features like RAID
> >support) were dropped for the 12.10 launch.  There is a lot of chatter
> >about it out there, and lot's o' disappointment. Canonical giveth and
> >Canonical taketh away.
>
> The alternate images have been handy to me at the Clinic. On more than
> one occasion someone has wanted to upgrade from whatever Ubuntu they
> currently have to the latest. We don't have a lot of bandwidth at Free
> Geek, but the Alternate images allow an upgrade from CD rather than
> over the net connection. Are you telling me that the Alternate images
> will be no longer? if so, how can I upgrade an existing Ubuntu without
> a net connection?
>
>
You can make a Live USB or Live DVD the alternates were removed to simplify
things the current images will allow a offline upgrade from later versions
without issue. I will have printed DVD's hopefully by Friday providing U.S.
Customs doesn't sit on them on the East Coast.

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Re: [PLUG] Flashplayer Issue

2012-10-19 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 10/18/2012 11:40 AM, Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2012, Russell Johnson wrote:
>
>> As far as I know, yes, firefox will only (re)load plugins during startup.
> OK. We didn't do that last evening. I'll see if it works today.
>
> Thanks, Russell,
>
> Rich
>

On a side note Flash will soon be EOL for Linux unless your using Chrome 
then some support will continue using Pepper 
http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/02/adobe-and-google-partnering-for-flash-player-on-linux.html

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Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu 12.04 and VMWare Fusion

2012-10-19 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:11 PM, John Meissen  wrote:

>
> Anybody know if Ubuntu 12.04 is supported by Fusion on a Mac? My early
> search
> results seem to indicate that's a negative. :-(
>

No idea.

>
> Right now I'm running Fusion 3. I haven't seen any reason to upgrade
> because it
> seems like the main reason would be to get Lion support, and I may never
> upgrade my Mac to Lion. :-P
>
> I have more than one Ubuntu 10.04LTS install that I should be upgrading,
> and
> figured I'd try my VMWare install first to see how it went. The net result
> is a
> trashed system. The login screen video is so messed up I can barely see
> what
> I'm trying to do. Once I get in it's OK, but the VMWare Tools don't
> install so
> now I don't have shared folders, and who knows what else.
>
> And OMG, how do I get rid of Unity? It just makes me want to scream.
>

When you know how to use the HUD and Customize Appearance it works much
better than most DE's and saves so much time over a menu based DE. But you
can remove it using apt-get remove and just replace it with another DE such
as xfce or kde.

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/doityourself-it-guy/diy-replace-ubuntu-unity-with-a-different-desktop/742


>
> I have another VMWare-based install that I use for work, which I guess I
> won't
> be updating any time soon. :-( My other two systems are running on real
> hardware, but I'll be damned if I'm going to subject myself to Unity on a
> full-time basis.
>
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Re: [PLUG] would this laptop work?

2012-10-18 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:47 PM, C W  wrote:

> Mint does need to make some changes on its security approach, in my
> opinion, but Ubuntu is not free from controversy, either.  Read this
> article:
> "
>
> http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2207679/mark-shuttleworth-defends-ubuntu-1210-amazon-integration
> ".
>


I was actually one of the people who brought up the initial privacy and
security concern notably this was all during beta testing so it was not by
means a stable or final release and as we approach 12.10 release today the
security and privacy concerns have both been addressed.

Notably I am a Ubuntu Developer (I do not however work for Canonical).


>
> Cheers,
>
> Elcaset
>
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Benjamin Kerensa  >wrote:
>
> > On Oct 17, 2012 8:04 PM, "Dale Snell"  wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:36:01 -0700
> > > John Jason Jordan  wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:06:27 -0700
> > > > Benjamin Kerensa  dijo:
> > > > >
> > > > >I would suggest against Mint Not because of the politics their
> > > > >found brings in that I personally dislike but instead because by
> > > > >default they disable Kernel Security Updates and also do not
> announce
> > > > >CVE's to their users.
> > > >
> > > > What are CVEs?
> > >
> > > CVE is an initialism standing for Common Vulnerabilities and
> > > Exposures.  Basically a system of reporting security exploits and
> > > their fixes.  A lot of the bugfixes I see for Fedora are CVE security
> > > fixes.
> >
> > Yeah Red hat does a lot of CVE fixes they have a lot of developers but
> > Ubuntu and Debian do their fair share. Ubuntu, Debian and Fedora publish
> > CVE reports to keep their users aware of security issues affecting apps
> > which Mint does not and further they disable Kernel Security Updates
> > because they feel they are a threat no other distro does this.
> >
> > >
> > > Check out  <http://cve.mitre.org/>  if you want more details.
> > >
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Re: [PLUG] would this laptop work?

2012-10-17 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On Oct 17, 2012 8:04 PM, "Dale Snell"  wrote:
>
> On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:36:01 -0700
> John Jason Jordan  wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:06:27 -0700
> > Benjamin Kerensa  dijo:
> > >
> > >I would suggest against Mint Not because of the politics their
> > >found brings in that I personally dislike but instead because by
> > >default they disable Kernel Security Updates and also do not announce
> > >CVE's to their users.
> >
> > What are CVEs?
>
> CVE is an initialism standing for Common Vulnerabilities and
> Exposures.  Basically a system of reporting security exploits and
> their fixes.  A lot of the bugfixes I see for Fedora are CVE security
> fixes.

Yeah Red hat does a lot of CVE fixes they have a lot of developers but
Ubuntu and Debian do their fair share. Ubuntu, Debian and Fedora publish
CVE reports to keep their users aware of security issues affecting apps
which Mint does not and further they disable Kernel Security Updates
because they feel they are a threat no other distro does this.

>
> Check out  <http://cve.mitre.org/>  if you want more details.
>
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Re: [PLUG] would this laptop work?

2012-10-17 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Randy Stapilus wrote:

> I'm looking at getting a new (nearly new in this case) laptop on which I
> would dual boot Windows (probably not often) and Linux, probably either
> Ubuntu or Mint.
>

I would suggest against Mint Not because of the politics their found
brings in that I personally dislike but instead because by default they
disable Kernel Security Updates and also do not announce CVE's to their
users.

>
> A friend has a machine up for sale which looks like a good deal and I think
> might work for me. It's an HP Pavillion dv7 (descriptive
> page<
> http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Laptops/HP-Pavilion/B2P31UA?HP-Pavilion-dv7-7012nr-Entertainment-Notebook-PC
> >).
>
>
> The specs suggest to me this seems like a reasonable machine for what I
> want. Question - anyone know of a problem area here, a reason dual-booting
> wouldn't work smoothly enough with this particular laptop?
>
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[PLUG] Ubuntu 12.10 Release Party this coming Saturday!

2012-10-14 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
Hello PLUG Members,

I wanted to just remind everyone of the opportunity to come and join fellow
Ubuntu Users and Developers for Ubuntu Oregon's 12.10 release party. We
will be giving out commerative Ubuntu Oregon 12.10 Release T-shirts on a
first come, first serve basis and the folks at PuppetLabs will be providing
us with tasty pizza, soft drinks and beer.

If you are interested in attending please use the following link the RSVP
and get all the details:
http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-or/1964/detail/

If you have any trouble RSVP'ing please let me know!


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[PLUG] Community Leadership Summit!

2012-07-11 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
Hey Everyone,

If you are interested in polishing your Community Leadership skills then 
this weekend Community Leadership Summit is a great opportunity to do 
just that while also networking with Tech Leaders from around the world. 
The event is two days long and totally free! Notably this event is 
organized by Jono Bacon the Ubuntu Community Manager!

When: July 14th and 15th

More details athttp://www.communityleadershipsummit.com 
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[PLUG] Ubuntu Bug Jam/ Debian BSP at PSU Now!

2012-06-16 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
Just a short reminder for those who are interested there is a join 
Ubuntu Bug Jam/ Debian BSP occuring at PSU's Maseeh Engineering Campus 
starting at 10am today in Room 86-01.


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[PLUG] Ubuntu Bug Jam / Debian Bug Squashing Party

2012-05-29 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
Ubuntu Oregon in cooperation with Portland's Debian Community and
Portland State University cordially invites you to join us for a join
Ubuntu Bug Jam and Debian Bug Squashing Event. This event is open to the
public and intended for all those interested in contributing to Ubuntu
or Debian or with a general interest in either.

When: June 16, 2012 from 10am - 8pm.

Where: Room 86-01 at PSU Campus (4th and College)

How: Please ensure to bring a personal laptop device with Ubuntu or
Debian installed so you can take part in the contributor acitivities.

Any questions can be answered on the Ubuntu Oregon mailing list found at
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-or or on Freenode

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Re: [PLUG] open office locked document

2012-04-16 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 04/15/2012 03:06 PM, dfhubb...@freegeek.org wrote:
>
> I was writing in a open office document when it suddenly went dark and
> would no longer let me write.  Then I got the message "Document file is
> locked for editing by: unknown user  Open document for Read only or make
> copy "
>
> I'm the only user.  I did not "lock" the document.
>
> Why did this happen?
>
> How do I undo this "lock by unknown user"?
>
>
> Thanks
> Debra
>
>
>
> True reconciliation is never cheap, for it is based on forgiveness, which
> is costly. Forgiveness in turn depends on repentance, which has to be
> based on an acknowledgment of what was done wrong, and therefore on
> disclosure of the truth. You cannot forgive what you do not know.
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Assuming you are using Ubuntu I would also suggest filing a bug with us 
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Re: [PLUG] Distro machine for Linux Clinic

2012-04-15 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 04/14/2012 10:48 AM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 10:18:47 -0700
> Keith Lofstrom  dijo:
>
>> I'm now loading Scientific Linux 6.2 (Red Hat Enterprise 6.2
>> clone, 2.6.32 kernel) onto an old 120GB SATA drive.  I will
>> be testing the USB3 connection with a Seagate 3TB USB3
>> external drive ($140 at Costco).  John can connect his
>> portable USB drive (containing his distro collection) to it.
>
> I repurposed my portable USB drive for other things at home. I now keep
> all the distros on my Thinkpad. They total about 100 GB. I have a 32 GB
> USB stick that we can use to transfer, or over the network.
>
> I do have a 200 GB hard drive that I put into my ancient rescued HP
> (tenants left it behind). It has Lubuntu on it, with 194 GB free space.
> I need to get some of my hairs cut today, and the barbershop is not too
> far from Free Geek. I could stop by and pick up another hard drive.
> IIRC a 250 GB drive runs about $50. Or maybe something from a
> retail store? I'll pick up the tab for a bigger hard drive if you think
> it would be useful.
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Why invest so much money in a box when you could buy
a big ten pack of 4-8GB Thumbdrives for a fraction of
the cost and not increase FreeGeek's power consumption?

Last time I was at the Costco here in NE they had ten pack's for
around $40 and with ten you could have two copies of every major distro.


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Re: [PLUG] What happened to alien?

2012-04-09 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 04/08/2012 11:14 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> Not the deep space kind; the penguin kind.
>
> Ages ago, in my Ubuntu days, I used alien a few times to convert
> an .rpm to a .deb package. Once or twice it actually worked. And I
> dimly recall that it was supposed to work the other direction as well.
>
> So here I am today on Fedora needing to install a program that is
> available only as a .deb package, or install from source. I have tried
> installing from source half a dozen times in the past, and have yet to
> do so successfully. Installing from source is a last ditch desperation
> effort. It would be a lot easier if I could convert the .deb package to
> an .rpm package.
>
> Not only is alien not installed on my Fedora 16 computer, but it is not
> even in the repos. I searched (with Yumex) on ".deb" and found that both
> apt and dpkg were in the repos, so I installed them. The information for
> each package in Yumex was not clear about exactly what purpose they
> might serve on a Fedora computer, but I did quickly discover that dpkg
> (not surprisingly) will not install a .deb file.
>
> Is there an equivalent of alien that I can use on an .rpm based distro?
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http://kitenet.net/~joey/code/alien/

Grab source package compile and have at it?


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[PLUG] Ubuntu Oregon 12.04 LTS Release Party

2012-04-02 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
Ubuntu Oregon will be having a Release Party in April which is Open to
Everyone who RSVP's
all the details are here:
http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-or/1609/detail/

We would love to have some PLUG folks attend.

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[PLUG] Ubuntu Oregon Precise Pangolin Release Party

2012-03-27 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
Hello PLUG Folk,

Ubuntu Oregon will be holding its 12.04 LTS Release Party on April 29th 
from 1:00 PM to 5:00 PM at PuppetLabs in Downtown Portland.

I would like to invite those who are interested to consider attending
and you can RSVP for the event at:
http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-or/1609/detail/

If you are currently running a older version of Ubuntu and
want to upgrade feel free to attend and learn about the new
long-term support release and socialize with other Ubuntu users.

Do not hesitate to bring your laptop as we can upgrade you on-site :)


About Ubuntu Oregon

Ubuntu Oregon is a group of volunteers who advocate and promote Ubuntu 
and Free Open Source Software in Oregon. We attend and plan events 
statewide and remain committed to educating others about Ubuntu and Free 
Open Source Software through these events and partnerships within our 
community.

The group is open to everybody in the state with an interest in 
spreading and discussing Ubuntu.

Website: http://www.ubuntu-oregon.org
Mailing List: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-us-or
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ubuntuoregon
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Re: [PLUG] fat 16 or 32?

2012-03-22 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 03/22/2012 09:43 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 21:23:30 -0700
> Denis Heidtmann  dijo:
>
>> I have a usb stick ready to load ubuntu 11.10 onto a netbook.  Some
>> comments on the web indicate that the install only works with fat 16
>> format on the stick.  That may be old information, but in case of
>> trouble I would like to know the format of the stick I have.  How do I
>> determine if it is 16 or 32?  It is an msdos file system according to
>> the info displayed in the file browser gui.
>
> The best GUI for figuring out how your disks are set up is
> Palimpsest. Unfortunately, different distros label it variously in the
> application menu, and some don't install it at all. If you can't find
> it in the launch menu just launch it from the command line as
> "palimpsest." If that doesn't work, then "sudo aptitude install
> palimpsest," or equivalent if using other than debian package
> management.
>
> Having said that, if you want to make a bootable USB stick, shouldn't
> you be burning the ISO image to the stick rather than copying it to the
> stick? Wait ... that's what that utility you needed and couldn't get to
> because of "dash" and stuph was all about, right? You probably have
> that figured out by now. Never mind.
>
> Almost all USB sticks come from the factory formatted FAT32. I would
> have said "all," except that my recent acquisition from Fry's was NTFS
> (yes, really).
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You need to make a bootable usb :)

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Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu how-to documentation rant

2012-03-22 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 03/22/2012 03:26 PM, Denis Heidtmann wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Russell Senior
> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> "Word" == Word Wizard  writes:
>>
>> Word>  Some thoughts on the Unity/Gnome 3 change I migrated to Ubuntu
>> Word>  Linux about 6 years ago after being alienated by the total mess
>> Word>  that Windows XP/Vista had become. The Gnome2 desktop was easy to
>> Word>  master, not all that dissimilar from Windows. Then Ubuntu
>> Word>  introduced Unity about the same time that Gnome3 superseded the
>> Word>  old linear menus. I really disliked the new interface models at
>> Word>  first and wondered why Linux developers just couldn't stick with
>> Word>  the old tried and true.
>>
>> Word>  A year of so later, my perspective has changed completely. I'm
>> Word>  currently using Ubuntu 11.10 w/Gnome 3.2 and the Avant
>> Word>  dock. After getting used to the change I'd never go back
>> Word>  (although Ubuntu 11.10 offers the option of the "classic Gnome"
>> Word>  desktop). The incredible flexibility of lenses combined with the
>> Word>  traditional linear menus and launchers in Avant makes just about
>> Word>  every task easier faster and more fun.
>>
>> Word>  My advice to those who find Linux' general move away from the
>> Word>  old Gnome/Windows menu model uncomfortable is to just slowly
>> Word>  acclimatize oneself to them. The fully user-customizable Avant
>> Word>  dock (AWN) is a great tool to ease that transition as it offers
>> Word>  everything the old Gnome2 menus did and more. Gnome2 fans can
>> Word>  explore the new paradigm without being lashed to it for every
>> Word>  task. I suspect most users will eventually find themselves more
>> Word>  comfortable with Unity or Gnome3 and many will become happy
>> Word>  fans.
>>
>> Dude.  This is called the "Stockholm Syndrome".
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
>>
>>   "In psychology, Stockholm Syndrome is an apparently paradoxical
>>psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and have
>>positive feelings towards their captors, sometimes to the point of
>>defending them."
>>
>>
>> --
>> Russell Senior, President
>
>
> I do not doubt it, but if it were universally true, we would all be singing
> MS' praises.
>
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#ubuntu is only for general ubuntu support if you needed instructions 
you could join there on freenode however if you wanted to provide 
feedback #ubuntu-doc would be the appropriate place for such.

12.04 will be the shipping LTS next month so all documentation is being
transitioned to reflect that Ubuntu uses Unity. You can complain all day 
long about Ubuntu using Unity but in the end anyone who is still
shipping Gnome 2.x is just behind on times since that project is EOL 
(End of Life).

Going forward you will have a choice of Gnome3/Unity/XFCE/KDE/Insert You 
Fave Here all which run fine on Ubuntu and we generally maintain
community variants of the most popular spins.

Ubuntu is just keeping up with times and times are moving forward 
instead of staying in 1990 :) We call it progress... You call it whatever :P


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Re: [PLUG] Firefox: Tabs No Longer Move

2012-03-16 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 03/16/2012 08:30 AM, Dale Snell wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 08:06:54 -0700 (PDT)
> Rich Shepard  wrote:
>
>> Used to be that I could adjust the order of tabs in a firefox
>> window. But, with version 10.0.x this no longer works. When I drag a
>> tab to a different position it snaps back to where it was. I find no
>> menu item to swap positions of the tabs.
>>
>> Has anyone else seen this? Is there a solution?
>
> I've not seen this behavior, sorry.  I'm running Firefox 10.0.1 on
> Fedora 16, and I can move the tabs around with no trouble.  I do run
> with the Tab Mix Plus add-on, but I don't think it affects shifting
> the tabs around.
>
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No problems on Ubuntu 12.04 Beta 1 with Firefox 11
and I checked a earlier version of FF and still not able to
reproduce.
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Re: [PLUG] Firefox: Tabs No Longer Move

2012-03-16 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 03/16/2012 08:06 AM, Rich Shepard wrote:
> Used to be that I could adjust the order of tabs in a firefox window. But,
> with version 10.0.x this no longer works. When I drag a tab to a different
> position it snaps back to where it was. I find no menu item to swap
> positions of the tabs.
>
> Has anyone else seen this? Is there a solution?
>
> Rich
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It would be hard to troubleshoot this without at the very least knowing
what Distro/Release you use... Firefox has not removed the ability to
drag tabs to different positions and is very unlikely to do so in the
future.

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Re: [PLUG] Netbook Linux scarcity

2012-03-13 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 03/13/2012 02:25 PM, Denis Heidtmann wrote:
> My search for a Netbook has been frustrating, and here is one
> explanation: 
> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/why-the-linux-netbook-crashed-and-burned/9156
>
> So what is a late-comer to do?  Has the long battery life, moderate
> computing power unit gone completely?  The Asus 1015 series seems
> completely out of stock.  I have yet to explore the X10x series, but I
> see the X101 with Meego has a puny 4 hour run time.  Useless.  Even
> the 1200 series seem hard to find.
>
> If the Vaughan-Nichols article is correct, the Atom may be disappearing.
>
> Any suggestions for where to look and what to look for would be welcome.
>
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CTL makes a Netbook that runs Ubuntu 11.10 out of the box and you could 
also buy a Dell Mini and just install your favorite Distro? I know 
Ubuntu runs fine on most of the mini's my fiancee and my best friend's 
wife both have mini's running Ubuntu.

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[PLUG] Ubuntu Precise Release Party

2012-03-13 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
I know PLUG folks have attended a few of our events now so I will pass 
this on:
http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-or/1609/detail/

We having this on April 29th.

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Re: [PLUG] Free distros!

2012-02-29 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 02/28/2012 10:05 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> I keep the major distros on my computer because I have pretty good
> bandwidth at home and plenty of storage space. Mostly I do so for use
> at the Clinic, but I am always happy to provide them to people who have
> slow connections.
>
> I just went through my Distros folder and updated to the latest
> versions. I have the ISOs in 32- and 64-bit (when available), and I
> keep the various spins for those distros that come in different
> flavors. Here is what I maintain:
>
> ArchLinux
> Damn Small Linux
> Fedora (last two releases)
> Knoppix
> Mint
> OpenSuse
> Porteus (was Slax)
> Puppy
> Slackware
> Ubuntu (10.04 through 11.10)
> Rescue CDs (half a dozen different ones)
>
> I will have my computer with me at the meeting this Thursday. Bring a
> blank CD/DVD or a flash drive and take home whatever you want. They're
> free!
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Ubuntu if they need one when I have them in supply
right now I have a couple hundred. :)


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Re: [PLUG] Stupid apt-get problem

2012-02-24 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 02/24/2012 12:09 AM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> I am trying to install the latest Opera web browser on my Lucid x86_64
> desktop computer. Currently Opera 9.20 is installed, which I did a long
> time ago by downloading the .deb file and installing it with gDebi or
> dpkg.
>
> This evening I downloaded the latest .deb (11.61) and tried to install
> it. I got an error message that, although not very clear, led me to
> believe that it could not be installed without first removing 9.20. I
> also found instructions for adding the opera repository, which I did,
> and now Opera 11.61 is listed in Synaptic. But trying to install it with
> Synaptic results in the same error message.
>
> I can launch Opera 9.20 and it runs fine. But Opera 9.20 is not listed
> in Synaptic. "Aptitude show opera" says there is no such package.
> "Aptitude remove opera" says no packages are to be removed.
>
> WTH? How do I get rid of 9.20? How is it that I can launch and run a
> program that is not installed on the computer?
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1. Uninstall http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1042091

2. Install via sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb or if newer is available via 
repo then sudo apt-get install packagename


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Re: [PLUG] Stupid apt-get problem

2012-02-24 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 02/24/2012 12:09 AM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> I am trying to install the latest Opera web browser on my Lucid x86_64
> desktop computer. Currently Opera 9.20 is installed, which I did a long
> time ago by downloading the .deb file and installing it with gDebi or
> dpkg.
>
> This evening I downloaded the latest .deb (11.61) and tried to install
> it. I got an error message that, although not very clear, led me to
> believe that it could not be installed without first removing 9.20. I
> also found instructions for adding the opera repository, which I did,
> and now Opera 11.61 is listed in Synaptic. But trying to install it with
> Synaptic results in the same error message.
>
> I can launch Opera 9.20 and it runs fine. But Opera 9.20 is not listed
> in Synaptic. "Aptitude show opera" says there is no such package.
> "Aptitude remove opera" says no packages are to be removed.
>
> WTH? How do I get rid of 9.20? How is it that I can launch and run a
> program that is not installed on the computer?
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[PLUG] Ubuntu Global Jam - Sunday, March 4th at FreeGeek!

2012-02-24 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
Passing this on for those who might be interested:

Ubuntu Oregon will be having a Global Jam event on Sunday, March 4th at 
FreeGeek in Portland the details of the event are in this announcement:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-or/2012-February/000404.html

We are asking those who can to bring a food or beverage item for the event:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-or/2012-February/000407.html

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Re: [PLUG] Recommendation desired for Open Source project lurking

2012-02-15 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 02/15/2012 04:52 PM, Richard C. Steffens wrote:
> On 02/15/2012 04:30 PM, Michael Rasmussen wrote:
>> Another option would be to view the discussion tabs for any article at 
>> Wikipedia
>> or the (amazingly civil) Arch Linux wiki.
>>
>> Discussion happens.
> Thanks.
>
Could lurk on ubuntu-devel or one of the other mailing lists.

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Re: [PLUG] Xubuntu: Getting Wireless Networking Running Post-Installation

2012-02-15 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 02/15/2012 06:29 AM, Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Mike Connors wrote:
>
>> Rich - I found two articles that talk about this wireless radio being soft
>> blocked. You just need to install rfkill either through the package
>> manager or command line with "apt-get install rfkill" then run the "rfkill
>> list" command.
> Mike,
>
> I'll work on this this evening. I can use the ethernet connection, I
> hope!, to get the rfkill; since wireless connection isn't working I cannot
> use either the package manager or the command line to access it from outside
> here.
>
>> If when you run the "frkill list" and no "wireless lan" interface is
>> listed than you've got an incompatible / non-functional driver problem.
> Since the Intel Web site says that this radio chip has been in the kernel
> since 2.6.24 I would suspect it's a ubuntu glitch. Obviously, the older
> Toshiba has a different radio since there was no problem with xubuntu-11.10
> on it.
>
> I have a ton of client work to get out today, and Frontier Comm. changed
> my IP address twice last evening (7 and 8 pm) and the cron script changes
> only one domain at namecheap.com. This is the 8th IP address since last
> Wednesday evening at 9:07pm when they took away my static IP address. Makes
> no sense to change it this frequently, but it's out of my control even
> though it really ticks me off. So, I won't get back to getting the Sony
> working wirelessly until after work.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rich
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I highly doubt it is related to a bug in Ubuntu since I have the same 
hardware in my laptop
and have zero issues. If you would like to join us on Freenode #ubuntu-us-or
we have a number of people from Canonical's various teams and 
experienced users
who could troubleshoot this for you.



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Re: [PLUG] Are we having booting fun yet? (no)

2012-01-30 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 01/30/2012 10:07 PM, logical american wrote:
> Galen:
>
> The Asus P8H61-M claims that it is an EFI board, so I probably should be
> using UEFI.
>
> Unfortunately, I am currently using BIOS, and while GRUB2 could see the
> gpt partitions, it could not get the boot correct.
>
> I even tried making 2 primary partitions under MSDOS, in hopes that
> GRUB2 would see them, but the gparted manager would only allow 1 boot flag.
>
> Not sure where to go from here.  (It is my growing impression that the
> install scripts on the Live CD for Ubuntu are pretty rigid)
>
> Anyone know how to set up a UEFI boot for Ubuntu 12.04?
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> Randall
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Burn a copy of the alternate ISO for whatever architecture you are 
installing on instead of using the primary ISO.

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[PLUG] Fwd: Ubuntu Hour (Portland) This Friday!

2012-01-30 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
PLUG folks are of course welcome to join us. Ping me if you are coming 
so I have a head count for the restaurant!

 Original Message 
Subject:Ubuntu Hour (Portland) This Friday!
Date:   Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:34:50 -0800
From:   Benjamin Kerensa 
Organization:   Ubuntu
To: ubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com



I will be hosting a Ubuntu Hour at Got Pho located at 3634 NE Sandy 
Blvd, Portland, OR (Hollywood District) the event will start at 19:30 
PST (7:30PM) and will run for a couple hours depending on how long we 
feel like staying out. Got Pho has a full Vietnamese cuisine to include 
Pho (Vietnamese Beef Noodle Soup), Vietnamese Sandwiches, Thai Iced 
Teas, Domestic and Asian Beer and so much more.

Got Pho is not too expensive at all with a meal + beverage costing about 
$10-15 and the portions are pretty generous they also offer Wifi on-site 
and the restaurant is easily accessible from the freeway.

Please RSVP at the following link so I know how many reservations to 
make and also feel free to reply to list and let us know if your coming:
http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-or/1520/detail/


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Re: [PLUG] resolved problem

2012-01-30 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 01/29/2012 04:28 PM, logical american wrote:
> To all:
>
> FYI:
>
> Regarding the trouble getting graphics to work on the Asus P8H61-M
> motherboard, by switching to Ubuntu "Precise" kernel v3.2, all graphics
> problems were resolved.  Evidentally the correct Intel drivers did make
> it into the Xorg code and also the supporting kernel parameters.  The
> old v2.6.32 kernel just couldn't handle the Intel "SandyBridge" H61 chipset.
>
> So if you do use an Asus P8H61-M or similar Asus card, you definitely
> will have to run Ubuntu "Oneiric" or "Precise" to support the Intel
> Sandybridge integrated graphics.
>
> I consider this problem now closed (after burning 3 or 4 cds and doing
> installs and watching the results)
>
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Ubuntu Precise Pangolin is very smooth and precise about a number of 
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Re: [PLUG] Security Vulnerability in Xorg Screen Locking

2012-01-20 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 01/19/2012 10:32 AM, Tim Bruce - PLUG wrote:
> On Thu, January 19, 2012 09:06, Daniel Hedlund wrote:
>> Came across the a link on Hacker News a few minutes ago that talks about a
>> bug in Xorg that allows anyone to bypass a locked screen using
>> ++*.  Most people are apparently vulnerable:
>> http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2012/q1/200
>>
>> Using+8 to access * doesn't work, but using numlock or a keypad
>> does.
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> Interestingly enough - I just tried this and it didn't work.  I'm running
> Ubuntu 11.10 and use a "blank screen" for the screen saver.  Maybe that's
> the difference (rather than running an actual screen saver).
>
> Tim
I'm unable to replicate this on Ubuntu 11.04 through 12.04 :)

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[PLUG] Ubuntu Oregon 12.04 LTS Release Party Planning.

2012-01-15 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
Hello Everyone,

As the release of Ubuntu 12.04 is getting closer I would like to 
initiative planning for the Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Release Party. In order to 
create an event that is inclusive I would like to try and guage 
everyone's availability.

I anticipate that April 28th or May 5th would be the most ideal days for 
our release party but of course this is up to discussion. I have created 
a Doodle poll so that people interested in participating in the release 
party can share their availability on those dates that way we have an 
idea of what is going to work best.

Please fill your availability here: http://j.mp/PrecisePlanning

In addition to finding a workable date and time we will also need a 
venue and hopefully some sponsors for food and beverage and as such I 
will be sending out some pitches or better yet requests for sponsorship 
over the next week and when I get enough responses we can decide on 
venue. If you know of any large venues or companies interested in 
sponsoring food or beverage for the release party do not hesitate to get 
in touch with me.

As usual the Release Party will be held in the Portland-Metro area to 
accommodate the greatest amount of attendees and we encourage those who 
have never been to a release party to consider coming and I'm hoping 
that people from OSU LUG/OSU OSL, PLUG, FreeGeek and of course Canonical 
will join us!


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Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu User Days Today and Tomorrow

2012-01-14 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
IRC is Internet Relay Chat and irc.freenode.net is a IRC Server
http://www.ubuntu-oregon.org/chat/ <-- We (Ubuntu Oregon) offer a web based
IRC client you can use to connect to IRC and participate you will just need
to input the channel to #ubuntu-classroom


On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Denis Heidtmann
wrote:

> I snaked my way through the various links to find out what Ubuntu User Days
> is, and how to partake.  The schedule has links to an explanation of the
> meaning of UTC, and bios. of the presenters, but little else.  I finally
> ended up with a link to a map (from the calendar for Learning Events),
> which yielded, in part:
>
>  We could not understand the location *irc.freenode.net*
>
> Suggestions:
>
>   - Make sure all street and city names are spelled correctly.
>   - Make sure your address includes a city and state.
>   - Try entering a zip code.
>
> (I have no idea why a link to a physical map is offered for an IRC event.)
>
> I have had no previous exposure to IRC. so I am lost.  I need
> some whacks with a clue stick.
>
> -Denis
>
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 1:20 AM, Benjamin Kerensa  >wrote:
>
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > Just wanted to let everyone know that today (Saturday) and Sunday is
> > Ubuntu User Days for the Ubuntu Oneiric Release Cycle and there will be
> > some excellent sessions being held. If you are interested in
> > participating check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/oneiric/
> >
> > I will be doing a session at 1:00 PM PST on Saturday about "Finding Help
> > Resources" in the Ubuntu Community.
> >
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[PLUG] Ubuntu User Days Today and Tomorrow

2012-01-14 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
Hello Everyone,

Just wanted to let everyone know that today (Saturday) and Sunday is 
Ubuntu User Days for the Ubuntu Oneiric Release Cycle and there will be 
some excellent sessions being held. If you are interested in 
participating check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/oneiric/

I will be doing a session at 1:00 PM PST on Saturday about "Finding Help 
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Re: [PLUG] Craig's List ad

2011-12-29 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 12/28/2011 04:49 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Denis Heidtmann
> wrote:
>
>> Lenovo edge e520
>>
>> http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ele/2764551913.html
>>
>> Is this as good as it seems?
>>
>> Thanks for your learned opinions.
>>
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> HI
>
> Looks like $600 on the net..
>
> I can't see anything wrong with it.  As long as it is not  stolen.
>
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Only 4GB of ram? thats kind of slim for a laptop these days... :) you 
should barter and tell him he can keep W7 license if he knocks off $100

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Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu System Administration

2011-12-02 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 12/01/2011 03:25 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Dec 2011, Ronald Chmara wrote:
>
>> /etc/hostname
> D'oh! Of course.
>
>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime
> I'll look there.
>
>> root is created by default, with no password login capability.
> Well, I've always had a root login (with password) on that system. And I
> could log in as root for administrative work.
>
>> You can take a look at /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow, the "!" in shadow
>> is the "don't allow this account to login" feature.
> There ought to be a way to assign a password to root; perhaps if I sudo to
> root I can run passwd successfully.
>
> Thanks,
>
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If you need support going forward feel free not only to use PLUG but
http://ubuntu-oregon.org we have IRC with tons of users here in Oregon
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Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Upgrade Question

2011-12-02 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 12/01/2011 01:09 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Dec 2011, Rich Shepard wrote:
>
>>   The xubuntu laptop here was running 10.10 and I just started a
>> distribution upgrade on it. 11.04 was the only one on offer. When this
>> upgrade is finished and I start the upgrade manager again will 11.11. be
>> offered?
> Well! As some point during file download the OS decided that there was
> something wrong with the screensaver but did not offer options to fix it or
> turn it off. Since I had no way to see the display and determine if the
> upgrade was done, I switched to tty2, logged in as root, and killed
> xscreensaver. That locked the system and took away the cursor. No way to
> change console, move the cursor, or anything.
>
> I'm now downloading the xubuntu-11.10.iso and will re-install.
> Fortunately, ~/ was backup on on a flash drive just a couple of days ago.
>
> Has anyone else experienced this? I've done package and distribution
> upgrades before on that box and they always went smoothly.
>
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11.10 has had some weird issues with xscreensaver especially in Ubuntu 
but I'm not sure
about Xubuntu. I know there has been some changes to the upgrade tool.

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Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Upgrade Question

2011-12-02 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 12/01/2011 11:09 AM, Rich Shepard wrote:
> The xubuntu laptop here was running 10.11 and I just started a
> distribution upgrade on it. 11.04 was the only one on offer. When this
> upgrade is finished and I start the upgrade manager again will 11.11. be
> offered?
>
> Thanks,
>
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Yes it will ask you to go by series however you could download the ISO 
of the latest release and upgrade via startup disc
and retain your files although hopping from a long distance between 
releases is generally not suggested. I'm running
12.04 Alpha 1 and I must say it is as stable as 11.10.

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[PLUG] Fwd: [Debian-portland-soc] Portland Ubuntu Local Jam and Debian Bug Squashing Party Reply-To:

2011-11-28 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
If anyone from PLUG is interested in attending please e-mail me or
e-mail one of the coordinating lists listed in the below e-mail.

 Original Message 
Subject:[Debian-portland-soc] Portland Ubuntu Local Jam and Debian Bug
Squashing Party Reply-To:
Date:   Mon, 28 Nov 2011 17:18:59 -0600
From:   Steve Langasek 
To: debian-portland-...@pdx.debian.net,
debian-devel-annou...@lists.debian.org, ubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com,
debian-events...@lists.debian.org



Hi folks,

I'm thrilled to announce that this coming Sunday, December 4, we will be
holding a first ever combined Ubuntu Local Jam and Debian Bug Squashing Party
in Portland, OR.

This event will be held at the PuppetLabs office in downtown Portland from
10am to 5:30pm.  The address is:

411 NW Park Ave
Suite 500
Portland, OR 97219

Interested in giving back to your favorite distribution?  Whether you're an
experienced developer or making your first foray into the world of Open
Source, please join us for a day of community fun!


Q. What is an Ubuntu Local Jam?

A. An Ubuntu Local Jam is like an Ubuntu Global Jam:

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam

   ... except not scheduled over Labor Day weekend when people are out
   of town, so more folks are able to attend!

Q. What is a Debian Bug Squashing Party?

A. A Debian Bug Squashing Party is an event where Debian developers and
   enthusiasts gather to fix bugs for an upcoming release.

 http://wiki.debian.org/BSP

More information will be available soon on ubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com
and debian-portland-...@pdx.debian.net.

Hope to see you there!

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Re: [PLUG] NTFS on a USB flash drive?

2011-11-27 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 11/26/2011 11:11 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> I went to Fry's today because I needed a new mouse with blue teeth.
> While there I found a Patriot brand 32 GB USB 3.0 flash drive for $20.
> When I got it home and plugged it in I found that it works fine, but
> Palimpsest says it is formatted NTFS.
>
> The packaging makes much of its claimed "up to" 60 MB/s read and
> 25 MB/s write speed, but says nothing of operating systems. Can Macs
> read NTFS? Is it wise to leave it NTFS?
>
> Also, although I have the latest 64-bit Fedora, my computer is over
> four years old, so I assume that the USB 3.0 won't do me any good until
> the day comes when I get a new computer with USB 3.0 ports. Am I right
> here?
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Mac OSX can read NTFS but not write to it... There is a app called
MacFuse that makes writing to NTFS possible.
If you don't have USB 3.0 ports then your not going to benefit from the
speed of a USB 3.0 device and if you choose you
could format the thumbdrive and use another FS. I have USB 3.0 drives
that have USB 3.0 support and use Ext4.



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Re: [PLUG] Another "slow" issue -- Thunderbird sending e-mail

2011-11-22 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 11/22/2011 11:49 AM, Richard C. Steffens wrote:
> On 11/22/2011 11:47 AM, Richard C. Steffens wrote:
>> Also since I installed the WRT54G:
>>
>> When I send an e-mail it takes many seconds for the mail to leave my
>> desktop. I don't have any trouble with download speed for e-mail, just
>> upload. It appears to be during the handshake phase and not the data
>> transfer phase -- although I don't know how I came to that conclusion.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Could this be related to the slow handshake between my various home
>> machines?
>>
> Naturally, as soon as I clicked on Send for that one it went right 
> through with no delay. Sigh.
>
Unless your sending large attachments bandwidth should very rarely have
a impact on
your sending e-mail. If anything your DNS lookups are slow or perhaps
there is a issue on the server
that handles SMTP.

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Re: [PLUG] Open Office Starts Slow

2011-11-22 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 11/22/2011 11:43 AM, Richard C. Steffens wrote:
> On 11/22/2011 11:37 AM, Rich Shepard wrote:
>
>> OO.o is no longer. Grab LibreOffice-3.4.3 (or 3.4.4, whichever is the 
>> most
>> current) and use that to replce what you have. Same data files work fine. LO
>> is not as complete as OO.o was, but it may well get there.
> I've heard that LO is taking over. I use OO for production, so I'm 
> hesitant to jump ship too quickly. I'll test out LO on my laptop and see 
> if anything I count on is missing.
>
> Thanks.
>

Nothing is missing from LO I have been using it for two release cycles
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Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu 11.10 vs. Asus S62FP Laptop

2011-11-11 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On 11/11/2011 08:56 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:
> I just upgraded my laptop to Ubuntu 11.10, and whenever I close the lid
> the backlight goes off.
>
> That would be a good thing, except that when I open the lid the backlight
> does not come on.  This is new with Ubuntu 11.10.
>
> I've found some web pages that relate similar symptoms with Linux and
> various other laptops, but the diagnosed root causes seem to be all over
> the map, and none of the suggested work-arounds seem to work around the
> problem for me, except for setting 'nomodeset' in grub which messes up my
> screen aspect ratio.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions?
>
Hi Tim,

Have you consulted #Ubuntu on Ubuntu IRC or perhaps Forums?

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Re: [PLUG] Google+ Pages Launches: +Linux page created

2011-11-07 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
Hi Michael,

Yep because Linus Torvalds ended up making a +Linux page hours later so I
deleted the first one

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Michael Rasmussen wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 01:21:24PM -0800, Benjamin Kerensa wrote:
> > Google+ Pages launched today and it even has a +Linux page:
> >
> > https://plus.google.com/u/0/108734178838301503131/posts
>
> 404s
>
> Try:
> https://plus.google.com/109995262342451767357/posts
>
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Re: [PLUG] Lists back up

2011-11-07 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
Ubuntu Oregon can likely host the PLUG Mailing List and Web. We have a
sponsorship ongoing for all our our web infrastructure and I don't see this
being a issue.

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Wil Cooley  wrote:

> On Thu, 2011-11-03 at 23:20 -0700, Jason Bergstrom wrote:
> > > I knew this was going happen sooner or later--one of my ancient servers
> > > died--Tuesday afternoon, apparently. Fortunately, it was only the power
> > > supply and I had spares.
> > >
> > > This junk in my basement is on the order of 7-10 years old and I don't
> > > really have the time I used to have to keep stuff going, much less to
> do
> > > anything new. But finally I do have time to help migrate away from my
> > > servers, if there are volunteers who could provide the needed hosting
> > > for mailing lists & web.
>
> > I'd volunteer to host some or all of it.
> >
> > What are the software requirements?
>
> For mailing lists:
> * Mailman (or some other suitable MLM) and everything that goes along
> with that--MTA, spam/AV-scanning, etc.
> * Archives are currently only about 1.4GiB
>
> For web site:
> * Current site is running in a local build of Apache 1.3, for mod_perl &
> HTML::Mason; there is a Python MoinMoin wiki up too. There are some
> plans for re-doing the site; I am not sure what the intention is.
> * Shell access for a handful of people to do edits. (They might be
> amenable to something like source-control repo with an automatic
> check-out.)
>
> For DNS:
> * Authoritative name server and some sort of secondary.
>
> There are other no-cost hosting options that are potentially viable,
> depending on the technologies that are desired for the future.
>
> For example, lists/forums could be done with Nabble and a wiki could be
> done with Wikia and any one of several blog services could be used for
> on-going announcements and such. I've recently discovered that gandi.net
> includes DNS hosting as part of their standard $15/yr registration
> package, so it's conceivable that the whole thing could be outsourced to
> various SaaS providers.
>
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[PLUG] Google+ Pages Launches: +Linux page created

2011-11-07 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
Google+ Pages launched today and it even has a +Linux page:

https://plus.google.com/u/0/108734178838301503131/posts
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Re: [PLUG] modifying the Ubuntu Unity (11.04) "panel"

2011-09-29 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
Hi,

Tomorrow I can send you some info on customizing Unity. Ultimately also for 
quicker response you might consider trying the ubuntu oregon mailing list, irc 
or forums we have about 150 people on mailing list who run Ubuntu here in 
Oregon.



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On Sep 29, 2011 7:14 PM, Bruce Kilpatrick <kd7...@gmail.com> wrote: 

On 09/28/2011 05:20 PM, glen e. p. ropella wrote:

> Bruce wrote circa 11-09-28 05:13 PM:

>> On 9/28/2011 11:08 AM, glen e. p. ropella wrote:

>>> I'm OK with Unity so far.  I don't like the Dock[1].  I do kinda 
like

>>> the launcher[2], though it doesn't replace the Menus of the old 
Gnome

>>> panel.  There are alternatives, including starting up an additional

>>> panel.  But for 2 reasons, I'm reluctant to use those: 1) I really 
want

>>> to try to use Unity as intended and 2) I don't like clutter and an 
extra

>>> dock or Gnome panel adds clutter.

>>>

>>> What I'd really like is to insert something between the 
app-specific

>>> "panel" and the notification area, indicated by [3].  Would anyone

>>> happen to know where to look in Unity or Compiz or Ubuntu docs

>>> indicating how to do such a thing?  I'd even be happy with a hook 
into

>>> the programming documentation.

>>>

>>>

>>> [1]

>>> 
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/rQRUDts2GzS9i70j2Z2AmQ?feat=directlink

>>>

>>> [2]

>>> 
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/JvCuDigYvhcDWaVXU8i5kw?feat=directlink

>>>

>>> [3]

>>> 
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/uiN4IJTCFtB2RP64mqWyMg?feat=directlink

>>>

>> I clicked on each of theses links and got a "page not found" response.

> Ugh.  Sorry.  They were set to "visible only to you".  I don't normally

> use Picasa.  I've reset the album to "visible to everyone on the web".

>

I don't know how to put something custom up there.  I have installed 

RadioTray, a weather indicator app, and DropBox...all have set 

themselves up there without my intervention.



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Re: [PLUG] Hosting Service

2011-09-28 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
They are a budget host I would never use them :P they started as running
out of a closet literally.

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Richard C. Steffens wrote:

> Is anybody on the list using Hostgator?
>
> http://www.hostgator.com/
>
> If so, what's your opinion of them?
>
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>
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Re: [PLUG] I really do need help with Asterisk...

2011-09-27 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
Hi Guys,

I'm unsure when this list became a religious or political debate forum but last 
I checked this is a linux user group general mailing list. Can we drop this 
argument shakehands and move on. There are better places and ways to address 
such.

- Benjamin Kerensa
Team Lead
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On Sep 27, 2011 8:46 PM, Fred James <fredj...@fredjame.cnc.net> wrote: 

Why is everything you do or say the fault of someone else ... do other 

people control you to that extent?

What universal hot line are you plugged into that you are so very sure 

of your knowledge?



It is irrelevant because the desperation for certainty insures desperate 

uncertainty ... but I don't expect you to understand that



I honestly don't care what gender you assign to your god/God, nor that 

you think that this is the god/God of any other person/persons.

Regards

Fred James



Michael C. Robinson wrote:

> With Keith's baiting of me to get others upset, why are you upset with

> me???  I really do need help figuring out how to get FXS connected

> telephone handsets to dial out.  I can dial to them, but I can't dial

> from them.

>

> Just so everyone is clear, "God is a man."  Second, He is the same God

> as your God because there is only one.  Third, women were judges and

> land owners 2000 years ago, so Christ could have called women to the

> priesthood if He wanted to.  Read the bible, Christ is clearly

> identified as a man and as God.  Check the historical records of ancient

> Rome, Christ is identified as a man.  And while we are on the subject if

> Keith has a privilege to post religious opinions that people won't

> censor, than I should be allowed to do the same without facing

> censorship.  Maybe Keith you should be more professional and avoid

> religious/political controversy on a technical support list.  If you and

> your wife want to call God a woman despite overwhelming evidence to the

> contrary, please do it elsewhere.

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Re: [PLUG] config error message interpretation help, please

2011-09-26 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
Dick,

If you still run into these issues feel free to hop on Forums or IRC.

Ubuntu Oregon has a large community of users who can help you
http://www.ubuntu-oregon.org

-bkerensa
Ubuntu Oregon Team Lead

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Richard C. Steffens wrote:

> I've got Ubuntu 10.04 running on my laptop. Now I'm trying to add things
> that I have on my desktop to the laptop. One of those is the Buoh Comics
> Reader. I downloaded the source and am attempting to compile the
> program. I start with ./configure and it does a bunch of checking. When
> it's done it tells me I'm missing some packages:
>
> No package 'glib-2.0' found
> No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
> No package 'libsoup-2.4' found
> No package 'gconf-2.0' found
>
> So, I fire up Synaptic and look for them.
>
> When I type 'glib-2.0' into Synaptic's Quick search I get four entries,
> one of which is installed. It's not clear whether the other three are
> what Buoh is looking for. Here's Synaptic's list. (In the second column
> '(*)' is the Ubuntu logo.)
>
>  S  Package  Installed Ver  Latest Ver  Description
> [ ] (*) girl1.0-glib-2.00.6.8-1 Introspection
> data for GLib, GObject, Gio and GModule
> [X] (*) libglib-perl 1:1.222-1 1:1.222-1   Perl interface to the
> GLib and GObject libraries
> [ ] ( ) libgfccore-2.0-02ca 2.3.1-7 GTK+ Foundation
> Classes Core - shared libraries
> [ ] ( ) libgfccore-2.0-0c2a-dbg 2.3.1-7 GTK+ Foundation
> Classes Core - debug symbols
>
> I tried installing the three that weren't already installed and ran
> configure again. I got the same error message. I must be missing
> something. A clue stick would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
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