Re: [PLUG] Strange feature wanted...
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:32 PM, someone wrote: > Quoting drew wymore : > > > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Michael C. Robinson < > > plu...@robinson-west.com> wrote: > > > >> Standard on Linux is that root can read any file on the local file > >> system. Unfortunately, to get OpenDNS to update via ddclient, you > >> have to know the username and password of the account that needs > >> updating. Is it possible to connect a password to ddclient.conf > >> or better yet require entry of the password in the file before it > >> can be opened? Basically, what I am interested in is password > >> protecting a single file and requiring that even the super user > >> enter that password to access it, unless the super user wants to > >> delete it. This way, in a sense, there can be more than one superuser > >> and it becomes possible to delegate maintenance of OpenDNS for example > >> to someone else. > >> > >> Frankly, I think it is stupid that you can't ask the OpenDNS servers > >> to update an account without logging in to that account, hint hint. > >> OpenDNS should be asking for the host name assigned to ones dynamic ip > >> address instead of the current ip anyways. > >> > >> ___ > >> PLUG mailing list > >> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > >> > > > > That's the whole idea behind sudo. > > No, sudo does not keep root from accessing a file without entering > another password. The feature I am talking about would establish a > second superuser that is higher than the standard superuser for one > specific file. The exception would be deletion, the ordinary > superuser should be allowed to > delete the uniquely protected file. The root account on a standard > Linux system, especially when selinux is disabled, can manipulate any > file. > > As far as the comment that a login has to be required by OpenDNS to > protect the system, if the system tracked the host name registered with say > dyndns.org, logging in to achieve an update would be completely > unnecessary. > > An alternative approach is to modify ddclient so that it saves the password > in salted form instead of unencrypted in a text file. This way, the > password > has to be unsalted by a random person for that person to know it. > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > I can understand the request but you could in theory lock root down or create a user who has root like privileges using sudo instead of manipulating the system with root itself. It is an interesting topic nonetheless. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Strange feature wanted...
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Michael C. Robinson < plu...@robinson-west.com> wrote: > Standard on Linux is that root can read any file on the local file > system. Unfortunately, to get OpenDNS to update via ddclient, you > have to know the username and password of the account that needs > updating. Is it possible to connect a password to ddclient.conf > or better yet require entry of the password in the file before it > can be opened? Basically, what I am interested in is password > protecting a single file and requiring that even the super user > enter that password to access it, unless the super user wants to > delete it. This way, in a sense, there can be more than one superuser > and it becomes possible to delegate maintenance of OpenDNS for example > to someone else. > > Frankly, I think it is stupid that you can't ask the OpenDNS servers > to update an account without logging in to that account, hint hint. > OpenDNS should be asking for the host name assigned to ones dynamic ip > address instead of the current ip anyways. > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > That's the whole idea behind sudo. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Need mdadm help
On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 10:43 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > Back in the days when Hardy was the reigning desktop distro I built > myself a new desktop computer. I used two matching 320 GB drives and > set them up as four partitions with RAID 1 (mirror) using mdadm. I wish > I hadn't done that. Now I wish remove one of the drives, in effect, undo > the RAIDs. Unfortunately it has been about three years since I created > the RAID and now I can't make heads or tails of the mdadm man page. I > must have been a lot smarter three years ago. > > Worse, I upgraded Hardy to Intrepid, and during the dist-upgrade the > boot information was written to only one of the disks. I can boot, but > only if I scroll down in the Grub menu and choose the previous kernel. > Trying to boot to the current kernel gives me a Grub error 15. I have > ignored this problem for a long time because the computer gets rebooted > only if there is a power failure. This means that if I want to preserve > the existing installation I have to figure out which partition (SDA1 or > SDB1) has the correct boot information. > > There are four arrays: >SDA1 and SDB1 - 45 GB EXT3 boot and / >SDA2 and SDB2 - 2 GB swap >SDA3 and SDB3 - 20 GB EXT3 unused >SDA4 and SDB4 - 235 GB EXT3 old data, unneeded > > 1) For starters, how can I figure out the names I gave the arrays? > > 2) Once I know the names of the arrays I might be able to figure out > how to remove one partition from each array, but how can I figure out > which one (between SDA1 and SDB1) has the correct boot information? > > I hope someone can help me figure out what I did and how to change it. > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > mdadm --query should be able to get you the array name at least if my interpretation of the man page is correct. In terms of which device has the correct boot information it might be a matter of trail and error, if you unplug sdb and works then you know that logically it should be sda that has the correct boot information. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Missing root!
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Jeme A Brelin wrote: > > On Sat, 11 Dec 2010, Bill Barry wrote: > > I was mostly ignoring the EXT3 error on the root device and thinking > > that the root device is using SATA and the Radeon video is using PCI and > > the common thing between those is the PCI bus. One is messing up the > > other by some unknown conflict over the PCI Bus. You know the root > > device is working with the onboard video. This shifts attention to the > > plugin video card. The combination onboard video and and plugin video > > card has caused on and off trouble since the PC and its bios first came > > into existence. I was thinking that the bios was not completely turning > > off the onboard video so the kernel was loading the modules for the > > onboard video and they were conflicting with the modules needed for the > > Radeon and the side effect was that your root device was giving strange > > errors. But I could have wandered down the wrong path? > > I think you've not wandered down the wrong path. I inadvertantly lied to > you! > > The pci=use_crs had no discernible effect. The address collision error is > still there. I think you're right about that being the real thing to be > resolved. > > The root drive is PATA/IDE, but there are also two SATA drives. When > mounting ANY of those drives using the BusyBox prompt after the failure to > mount the root filesystem when the external video is engaged, I get the > same EXT3-fs error. The devices show up fine in /dev/disks/, but mounting > them doesn't fly. > > This is pretty frustrating. Thanks to anyone thinking about this problem > or following along. > > J. > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Something is breaking the superblock or journal with that Radeon installed. That is super weird. I was on my phone yesterday when I responded so I couldn't dig into it more. Can you fsck the disk after you've been dropped to busybox? Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Missing root!
Jeme Are you disabling the analog when booting the pci card video? On Dec 11, 2010 12:09 PM, "Jeme A Brelin" wrote: > > I'm building a media PC for someone else. For various reasons (mostly for > geeky fun), I've got the thing booting from an internal IDE->CF adapter > with two 1TB "green energy" drives on the SATA channels. There is an > optical drive slaved from the IDE adapter. And this all works fine > (except for being slow to write to the boot device, but I won't care about > that after it's all configured nicely). > > However, the onboard video is analog, so I've addeda PCI adapter with DVI > output (ATI Radeon-based). When I boot the system using the new video > card, I get an error about an address space collision (in the ROM > allocation) and the boot drive is no longer visible to initramfs. I can > tell the bios to boot using the analog video and everything boots > normally. > > What do? > > Is it possible that the device IDs are just getting gorped in one > configuration and not the other and this has nothing to do with the ROM > allocation? There are no jumpers or BIOS settings that I can find to > change the ROM allocation areas associated with the devices. > > Halp! > > Thank you for your kind attention. > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Comcast ARRIS TM722...
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 7:58 PM, someone wrote: > The advanced tab seems to be password locked and apparently I wasn't > given the password. Question is, how do I get around the fact the the > cable modem wants > to set a global ip address on the host via dhcp? This clearly would > mess up my Linux based routers. In Linux, can I limit what dhcp from > the cable modem can change? I want to set a default route in say the > Comcast routing table based on what the cable modem tells me instead > of setting this route in the default routing table. Is there a > modified dhcp client that works with this cable modem which will use > the information the modem provides and apply it appropriately? > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Not that I'm aware of. Comcast gear is basically bridge Michael. So you'll have to set up a box as a router at the iface that the Comcast router plugs into. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] SPARC pizza boxes
Pete do they work? I'd like to snatch one from you if they do On Nov 30, 2010 12:18 PM, "Pete Lancashire" wrote: > Before I put them on Craigslist or turn them into PCB scrap, is there > anyone interested in old SMI Sparc's, 5s, 10s, etc ? > > -pete > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] dynamic DNS services
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 6:27 AM, frankhunt wrote: > I have been running a couple small sites (personal stuff and photos, > etc) for many years now with Comcastic - they do block port 25 now but > have (so far) left port 80 alone. I use zoneedit to manage the IP in > case it changes - but it hasn't changed in over three years. I also use > zoneedit to forward my emails (x...@mydomain.com) to their comcast > equivalents (x...@comcast.net). No problems. I think the key is to keep > the traffic low. If you try to run a business they may not like it. > > On 11/25/2010 05:50 AM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 20:57 -0800, frankhunt wrote: > >> I've been using zoneedit for about ten years. Never a problem. > >> > >> > >> > >> On 11/21/2010 03:11 PM, Carlos Konstanski wrote: > >>> I'm looking to lower that pesky monthly cable bill by switching from a > >>> static IP to a dynamic one. But I still need it work work like a static > IP, > >>> i.e. my DNS names (plural) still need to resolve. So I'm looking at > services > >>> like DynDNS.com. Any recommendations for the best one? > >>> > >>> Carlos > > In general, how does Comcast treat customers who run their own web > > and/or email site? Without multiple IP addresses, running redundant > > servers could be awkward. Still, fewer global IP addresses equals > > cheaper service. I'm on DSL, but it is painfully slow in my opinion > > compared to cable. The phone service is expensive enough that it might > > make sense to switch to Comcast triple play even at the normal > > price, whatever that is. I don't know if Comcast is much better than > > CenturyLink considering that Comcast advertises the initial as opposed > > to the long term cost. Yes you are looking at $35+ a month for > > telephone service alone with CenturyLink, but at $30/month per service > > from Comcast where that price is limited may not be much better. I wish > > FiOS was available in Columbia County. > > > > In my case, switching from DSL to Cable may not make sense. Dropping > > the DSL speed down and supplementing with cable might. I'm thinking > > keep DSL but at a lower speed for my web/email site and use Comcast > > cable for my own web browsing. At least in the short run, it would > > make sense to have both (while the cable is still cheap). > > > > I'm simply curious what people are doing. For that matter, has Linux > > support for satellite based Internet improved? I'm thinking dual > > direction satellite, not the kind where you use your telephone and > > receive via dish. > > > > > > -- > frank hunt > (L0F) R0B-ZAR1 > befuddled linux admin > erstwhile photographer > hillsboro oregon > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Thanks Frank - I meant port 25 not 53 duh :-) Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] dynamic DNS services
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 5:50 AM, Michael C. Robinson < plu...@robinson-west.com> wrote: > On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 20:57 -0800, frankhunt wrote: > > I've been using zoneedit for about ten years. Never a problem. > > > > > > > > On 11/21/2010 03:11 PM, Carlos Konstanski wrote: > > > I'm looking to lower that pesky monthly cable bill by switching from a > > > static IP to a dynamic one. But I still need it work work like a static > IP, > > > i.e. my DNS names (plural) still need to resolve. So I'm looking at > services > > > like DynDNS.com. Any recommendations for the best one? > > > > > > Carlos > > In general, how does Comcast treat customers who run their own web > and/or email site? Without multiple IP addresses, running redundant > servers could be awkward. Still, fewer global IP addresses equals > cheaper service. I'm on DSL, but it is painfully slow in my opinion > compared to cable. The phone service is expensive enough that it might > make sense to switch to Comcast triple play even at the normal > price, whatever that is. I don't know if Comcast is much better than > CenturyLink considering that Comcast advertises the initial as opposed > to the long term cost. Yes you are looking at $35+ a month for > telephone service alone with CenturyLink, but at $30/month per service > from Comcast where that price is limited may not be much better. I wish > FiOS was available in Columbia County. > > In my case, switching from DSL to Cable may not make sense. Dropping > the DSL speed down and supplementing with cable might. I'm thinking > keep DSL but at a lower speed for my web/email site and use Comcast > cable for my own web browsing. At least in the short run, it would > make sense to have both (while the cable is still cheap). > > I'm simply curious what people are doing. For that matter, has Linux > support for satellite based Internet improved? I'm thinking dual > direction satellite, not the kind where you use your telephone and > receive via dish. > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Michael - I'm using Comcast in Vancouver and I'm running a few services - namely VPN on a residential account without issue. I do believe they block port 53 for email but that's the only one I'm aware of that they officially black list without a corp account.The speeds are decent. I pay 56.99 a month for a tv package + 12Mbps down 2Mbps up internet access. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Accessing Wireless Router/AP
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Wed, 24 Nov 2010, drew wymore wrote: > > > I prefer WPA2-PSK but that's me. Others may chime in with their > preferences. > > Drew, > > I just read the Wikipedia page on WPA/WPA2-PSK. I have a 13-character > passphrase in mind. What the article did not explain is what I need to do > to > the portables here to allow them to reach the AP using the passphrase. > > Once I enter that passphrase in the Asus I need to provide it to the Dell > (running Slackware-current) and the Toshiba (running xubuntu-10.4; to be > upgraded as soon as the wireless AP is working). > > Thanks, > > Rich > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > You'll need to grab wpa-supplicant packages for both distros and they'll help you configure the WPA passwords needed to connect via wireless. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Accessing Wireless Router/AP
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Wed, 24 Nov 2010, Rich Shepard wrote: > > > In the address box of firefox I enter 'http://192.168.1.1' and see a > > message that the connection cannot be established. I also cannot ping > that > > IP address as a user. > >After correctly instantiating eth0:1 and adding a default route for that > subnet, I can access the Asus' admin page. > > Now, what recommendations have you for security level? My choices are > low/none, medium (WEP 64 or 128 bits), and high (WPA-PSK/WPA2-PSK). I know > nothing about these nor how to define hex keys for any of them. > > Advice, please, > > Rich > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > I prefer WPA2-PSK but that's me. Others may chime in with their preferences. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] dynamic DNS services
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Carlos Konstanski < ckonstan...@pippiandcarlos.com> wrote: > I'm looking to lower that pesky monthly cable bill by switching from a > static IP to a dynamic one. But I still need it work work like a static IP, > i.e. my DNS names (plural) still need to resolve. So I'm looking at > services > like DynDNS.com. Any recommendations for the best one? > > Carlos > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > I'm using no-ip.org and so far it's been solid for me. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Authentication denied: User doesn't exist 521
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Russell Senior wrote: >> "John" == John Jason Jordan writes: > > John> However, after the install a number of programs will not launch. > John> Frequently I get the error message "Authentication denied: User > John> doesn't exist 521." > > Which programs? I don't know anything about Fedora, but I am able to > apply the General Problem Solving Algorithm, generally. That nice > man, Mr Google, doesn't seem to recognize that error message, are you > certain that's literally the error message you get? > > > -- > Russell Senior, President > russ...@personaltelco.net > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Cat /etc/shadow and it should give you the UID of your user and who the mysterious account assigned 521 is. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Network configuration for Ubuntu 10.04
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Richard C. Steffens wrote: > On 11/01/2010 04:47 PM, Jason Barnett wrote: >> The only thing that springs to mind is to make sure there is not another >> device on the network with that IP. >> > > I pinged 192.168.0.253 and got no reply. > >> does your connection work if you manually assign the same IP that DHCP >> assigns you? >> > > No. > >> Oh yeah, are you able to ping the router? > > Yes. > >> What about a specific IP address on the net? >> > > I don't have one to try, outside my router. > > One recommendation I found was to uninstall the default Network Manager > and pick another one from those available from "add/remove" which I > assume to by Synaptic. > > -- > Regards, > > Dick Steffens > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > I suspect you might be missing the default gateway when you manually assign the IP or the routing tables think that the other NIC should be the default GW .. what does running /sbin/route show after you manually assign an IP? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Migrating from WinXP Pro to Ubuntu 10.10
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 7:24 AM, drew wymore wrote: > On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: >> Thank you John and Russell. With what you said and what I'm >> gathering from a thread on the Ubuntu users list I think desired >> effect is possible. Just not by route I was thinking of. >> >> Someone pointed me to http://ubuntu-manual.org/ . Just downloaded >> it. Now for some 'lite' (or at least enlightening) reading. >> >> >> ___ >> PLUG mailing list >> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> > > I can't find the site right now but there is an online tool that let's > you create a custom package build CD/DVD based on Fedora or Ubuntu so > it contains only what you want. > > If you want really stripped down you could always come to the dark > side and run NetBSD :) > Here's what I was thinking of : https://reconstructor.apphosted.com/ Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Migrating from WinXP Pro to Ubuntu 10.10
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > Thank you John and Russell. With what you said and what I'm > gathering from a thread on the Ubuntu users list I think desired > effect is possible. Just not by route I was thinking of. > > Someone pointed me to http://ubuntu-manual.org/ . Just downloaded > it. Now for some 'lite' (or at least enlightening) reading. > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > I can't find the site right now but there is an online tool that let's you create a custom package build CD/DVD based on Fedora or Ubuntu so it contains only what you want. If you want really stripped down you could always come to the dark side and run NetBSD :) ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Migrating from WinXP Pro to Ubuntu 10.10
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > I suspect some answers are on www.pdxlinux.org, but I'm getting > timeout errors. > > I'm a senior citizen migrating to *nix whose last formal course > work used 026's and line printers for I/O. My personal systems > have progressed from CPM80 (Digital Research) thru Win 3.1 to > WinXP Pro. Some of my personal preferences are shaped by that. > > I have Ubuntu 10.10 up and running in test mode from a USB drive. > > My first impression is that the default installation suffers from > the same problems as Windows - trying to be "all things to all > people" while NOT supplying some specific tools that I want. > > Question 1. > While keeping the default configuration available, can I have a > massively pruned configuration be my typical boot? > > Question 2. > While browsing files available thru the default desktop, one > seemed to say that internet access via an external RS-232 dial up > modem was not available with standard drivers. BUT when browsing > the descriptions of installed software it appeared that pppcfg > (IIRC) handled that. I'm confused. That will let you configure dial up but there needs to be drivers/modules for the actual hardware which may not be part of the default install depending on your hardware. > > Question 2a. > I didn't spot any reference to firewalls or ant-virus tools. Is > that accomplished in a different manner in the Linux world? > IPTables is the firewall, it's part of the kernel. You can download a GUI to configure it easier if you like. A/V can be handled by Clam AV and I'm sure there are others. > Question 3. > I wish to end up with > GUI - exists > Open Office - exists > Tcl/Tk - have appropriate executables on CD? > Scilab/SciosLab - will have to download > SeaMonkey - have strong preference for the suite approach > dial-up access with firewall and virus protection - *HOW* ? > > I'll leave the games,and sound/movie players as they will be > occasional used and see minimal benefit to removing them. > > Suggestions? > Am I on the appropriate list? > Recommended sites other than www.pdxlinux.org? > What are productive Google search terms? > You are on the appropriate list and most importantly Welcome to Linux :-) > Thank you. > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Challenging Problem . . .
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:06 PM, frankhunt wrote: > Situation: Client = Vista PC, NTFS file system; Server = CentOS 5.3 > serving CIFS shares (FYI: neither of these systems are current with all > the latest patches and updates - customer preference). Client has > windows open on both systems and attempts to drag and drop files from > server to local file system. Seems to work on smaller files. Files > larger than about 3-5MB will stop transferring after about 10% of the > file and hang. Client times out, complains that it can't see the file > on the server - the network connection to the server is lost. Cannot > ping server from client or client from server. Cannot ping the router. > Run "ifconfig eth0 down"; "ifconfig eth0 up" on the server side and > the network comes back. Transfer failure is repeatable (usually) > although sometimes it works. Network is straightforward SOHO type - > D-Link wireless router, Netgear switches, very light traffic. I do not > have a topology yet. > > Approach: Added my laptop (HP Pavilion dv6/Ubuntu 10.10) as a client > and the problem persisted. Same symptoms transferring files to/from the > CentOS system. Transfer would start, hang, time out, the network would > crash and re-appear after bouncing the network on the server. > > Connected the laptop directly to the server with only a Netgear switch > (no router). File transfers would NOT fail. Could not reproduce the > problem in this configuration. [aha, he said, it's in the network!] > > (but wait) > > Replaced server with the laptop, served files to PC via CIFS. We would > expect the laptop to fail just as the desktop CentOS system did (because > we think it is a network problem). Wrong - works perfectly. Could not > reproduce a failure in this configuration. [Aha, he said, it's NOT the > network] > > Now what? > > When I left my client this afternoon at 5PM, we were having success by > using "copy and paste" instead of "drag and drop" on the PC. WHAT? > Why does this work? We will continue to test this transfer process but > I don't see why it would make any difference (but hey, it's Windows on > the client). Have not tried this approach using the Linux laptop as client. > > Thoughts: Could be some buggy condition in the server software > somewhere (I suspect this because the system has not been updated but > have no real reason). Could be some issue with the CentOS drivers > interacting with the network components. I'm really saying that I have > no clue. > > Hence this post. > Looking for ideas, approaches, incantations, spells, band-aids, anything. > > Thanks for listening, > > -- > frank hunt > (L0F) R0B-ZAR1 > befuddled linux admin > erstwhile photographer > hillsboro oregon > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Frank - Look at the NIC on the Cent box and see if it starts incrementing errors, check dmesg etc to see if there is anything obvious logged. The copy and paste vs drag and drop is weird if the D-Link is in place. I ran into a similar problem between Windows clients with a wireless AP in place where one was connected to the AP via G and the other via N and running wireshark (works on windows and linux woohoo) and saw the buffers filling up causing the stall. This might be a worthwhile route to go to ferret out the problem and see if you can see a difference with the AP in place between drag and drop vs copy and paste. If the AP lets you, maybe check the WLAN interface for errors as well. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] tcpRcvCntrl : failed on receive 0 errno=0 :: Nevermind
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Michael wrote: > > > > Michael wrote: >> Google turns up zero hits for tcpRcvCntrl >> >> Any of you know what this error may indicate? > > cr** nevermind, it's a VOIP thing. > > -- > Michael > Rasmussen > http://www.jamhome.us/ > Be Appropriate && > Follow Your Curiosity > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > oops, didn't see this before I replied sorry list. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] tcpRcvCntrl : failed on receive 0 errno=0
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Michael wrote: > > > Google turns up zero hits for tcpRcvCntrl > > Any of you know what this > error may indicate? > > > -- > Michael Rasmussen > > http://www.jamhome.us/ > Be Appropriate && Follow Your Curiosity > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > It looks suspiciously like a network stack issue. Although odd that errno=0 as that would seem to indicate it wasn't actually a failure, maybe transient in nature? Using an ethernet nic or wireless card? If you can, I'd fire up wireshark if you're a GUI fan or plain old tcpdump to a file and see if you can find some context around that error. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Available Memory
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Tim wrote: > Hi Rich, > >> I don't know how to determine whether PAE is set for the Slackware-13.1 >> installation in my new Dell portable. When I look at /proc/meminfo I see the >> amount of memory as 3841208 kB. Am I correct that this is equivalent to >> knowing that 4G RAM are installed? If so, I assume the PAE flag is set. > > That number is just under 4G of course, but the rest is probably > stolen by your video card. If you want more of that back, check bios > settings. However, setting it too low could cause you video problems. > Anyway, it sounds like it's probably seeing all of the RAM. > > Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on any of this. > > tim > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Looks right. You can always check make menuconfig and the kernel opts though. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] CentOS upgrade trouble...
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-09-08 at 15:46 -0700, Larry Brigman wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Michael C. Robinson >> wrote: >> > I'm having trouble getting spamcannibal working, so I decided to upgrade >> > from 4.6 Final to 5.5 Final. A strange issue has popped up. When I go >> > to restart the network interfaces I get a SIOCADDRT network is >> > unreachable error. What having to do with an upgrade would cause this? >> > Oddly enough, networking seems to be working just fine despite the >> > error. >> >> We see this when the default gateway device is not reachable from the default >> interface. >> >> There is also the possibility that SELINUX which is on by default in >> 5.5 could be causing problems. >> Possible but not likely. A bunch of other stuff would be spamming the >> log files if that was the case. > > There is a log of can't reach 224.0.0.120 in my logs. Hmm, I think > avahi is causing a problem and generating the error. > > Sep 8 15:03:02 xerxes kernel: udp_glob_OUTPUT:IN= OUT=eth2 > SRC=216.151.30.108 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=267 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 > ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=247 > Sep 8 15:03:02 xerxes kernel: udp_glob_OUTPUT:IN= OUT=eth2 > SRC=216.151.30.108 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=141 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 > ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=121 > Sep 8 15:03:02 xerxes kernel: udp_glob_OUTPUT:IN= OUT=eth2 > SRC=216.151.30.108 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=267 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 > ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=247 > Sep 8 15:03:03 xerxes kernel: udp_glob_OUTPUT:IN= OUT=eth2 > SRC=216.151.30.108 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=267 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 > ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=247 > Sep 8 15:03:03 xerxes kernel: udp_glob_OUTPUT:IN= OUT=eth2 > SRC=216.151.30.108 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=249 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 > ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=229 > Sep 8 15:03:03 xerxes kernel: udp_glob_OUTPUT:IN= OUT=eth2 > SRC=216.151.30.108 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=236 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 > ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=216 > > Okay folks, how do I stop this? I have NOZEROCONF=yes > in /etc/sysconfig/network. > > An upgrade from 4.6 to 5.2 and the 5.5 should not have been a big deal. > I am not running X, which probably would break. If I have to back up > my custom scripts and apply to them to a fresh install of 5.2, fine. > Seems like this issue should be directly solvable though. > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Avahi spamming multicast? Weird .. I don't have any sage advice but yeah that is odd. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Isolating httpd Applications
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: > Is it possible, and practical, to isolate a Web site in a chroot jail that > would protect other, internal, applications if the site was cracked? > > Thanks, > > Rich > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Rich - Funny you ask as I was reading about this very same question last night. I haven't tried out the methods described yet so YMMV http://www.faqs.org/docs/securing/chap29sec254.html ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Centos 4.6 apache and perl scripts...
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Someone wrote: > > setHandler perl-script > PerlResponseHandler ModPerl::Registry > PerlOptions +ParseHeaders > Options +ExecCGI > Order allow,deny > Allow from all > > > Any thoughts on why adding the above to perl.conf doesn't work? > I'm thinking ~/public_html will match the public_html directory > under any user. > > I'm still getting Error 403, Forbidden. > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > No idea. I've never run perl scripts in any directory other than cgi-bin and is the script owned by the at least owned by the apache user or group? That would cause perm denied methinks or if it's not chmodded correctly. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Centos 4.6 apache and perl scripts...
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: > [Sun Aug 22 22:00:07 2010] [error] [client 192.168.5.82] Premature end > of script headers: cannibal.pl, referer: > http://web.robinson-west.com/~spam/ > > Any thoughts on this one? I dumped the output of cannibal.pl to an html > file and it rendered no problem. So why is the perl code generating an > internal server error? > > I'm following these instructions to try and get things working: > http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/cgi.html > > I notice I'm running Apache 2.0.5 and that these instructions are for > 1an earlier version. > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Could be any number of reasons. The Apache error logs should give you more information. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Spamcannibal database won't initialize...
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Michael C. Robinson
wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 17:55 -0700, drew wymore wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:36 PM, someone wrote:
>> > my %default=(
>> > dbhome => $CONFIG->{SPMCNBL_ENVIRONMENT},
>> > dbfile => [$CONFIG->{SPMCNBL_DB_TARPIT}, $CONFIG->{SPMCNBL_DB_ARCHIVE}],
>> > txtfile => [$CONFIG->{SPMCNBL_DB_CONTRIB}, $CONFIG->{SPMCNBL_DB_EVIDENCE}],
>> > umask => $CONFIG->{SPAMCANNIBAL_UMASK},
>> > );
>> >
>> > # Print out the values of %default
>> > foreach $dataval ( keys %default )
>> > {
>> > print "The data value is: $dataval \n";
>> > }
>> >
>> > if (@ARGV && $ARGV[0] =~ /^\-R$/) { # set run recovery if
>> > -R switch
>> > $default{recover} = 1;
>> > }
>> >
>> > # make the DB files
>> > my $dbp = new IPTables::IPv4::DBTarpit::Tools(%default);
>> >
>> > # Try to understand what $dbp is supposed to be and isn't...
>> > print "dbp: $dbp \n";
>> >
>> > # The following fails with an undefined error.
>> > $dbp->closedb;
>> >
>> > I am attempting to print out values to try and debug sc_initdb.pl and I am
>> > getting unusual errors.
>> >
>> > bash-3.00$ ./sc_initdb.pl
>> > Global symbol "$dataval" requires explicit package name at
>> > ./sc_initdb.pl line 61.
>> > Global symbol "$dataval" requires explicit package name at
>> > ./sc_initdb.pl line 63.
>> > Execution of ./sc_initdb.pl aborted due to compilation errors.
>> > bash-3.00$
>> >
>> > I don't see anything on page 80 of a Little Book on Perl that explains
>> > these errors. I see a hash and don't understand why I can't dump it's
>> > values.
>> >
>> >
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>> How did you originally install it? Have you attempted a re-install
>> using CPAN to manage dependencies? I suspect the root issue is some
>> missing bit that doesn't exist on your system that SC is dependent
>> upon.
>>
>> Drew-
>
> I installed perl-5.8.6 to /usr/local/bin from source and manually
> reinstalled what the MailSpamcannibal source says are the perl
> dependencies manually calling for the use of /usr/local/bin/perl.
> I don't know how to get CPAN to use the newer version of perl installed
> to /usr/local, so I can't use it. Besides, the MailSpamassassin package
> compiled with the newer version of perl still fails a significant number
> of tests. The thought would be, assume that the failure of these tests
> is the problem. As far as I can tell though, this isn't the problem.
> Are there any simple changes to the modified perl snippet above that
> will help me diagnose the real issue here? I'm about ready to assume
> that I have to go from CentOS 4.6 to CentOS 5.5 to get spamcannibal
> working which will be a major undertaking.
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call it this way?
/usr/local/bin/perl -MCPAN -e shell
> install Mail::Spamcannibal ?
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Re: [PLUG] Spamcannibal database won't initialize...
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:36 PM, someone wrote:
> my %default=(
> dbhome => $CONFIG->{SPMCNBL_ENVIRONMENT},
> dbfile => [$CONFIG->{SPMCNBL_DB_TARPIT}, $CONFIG->{SPMCNBL_DB_ARCHIVE}],
> txtfile => [$CONFIG->{SPMCNBL_DB_CONTRIB}, $CONFIG->{SPMCNBL_DB_EVIDENCE}],
> umask => $CONFIG->{SPAMCANNIBAL_UMASK},
> );
>
> # Print out the values of %default
> foreach $dataval ( keys %default )
> {
> print "The data value is: $dataval \n";
> }
>
> if (@ARGV && $ARGV[0] =~ /^\-R$/) { # set run recovery if
> -R switch
> $default{recover} = 1;
> }
>
> # make the DB files
> my $dbp = new IPTables::IPv4::DBTarpit::Tools(%default);
>
> # Try to understand what $dbp is supposed to be and isn't...
> print "dbp: $dbp \n";
>
> # The following fails with an undefined error.
> $dbp->closedb;
>
> I am attempting to print out values to try and debug sc_initdb.pl and I am
> getting unusual errors.
>
> bash-3.00$ ./sc_initdb.pl
> Global symbol "$dataval" requires explicit package name at
> ./sc_initdb.pl line 61.
> Global symbol "$dataval" requires explicit package name at
> ./sc_initdb.pl line 63.
> Execution of ./sc_initdb.pl aborted due to compilation errors.
> bash-3.00$
>
> I don't see anything on page 80 of a Little Book on Perl that explains
> these errors. I see a hash and don't understand why I can't dump it's
> values.
>
>
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How did you originally install it? Have you attempted a re-install
using CPAN to manage dependencies? I suspect the root issue is some
missing bit that doesn't exist on your system that SC is dependent
upon.
Drew-
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Re: [PLUG] Solaris - Was: Slackware upgrade trouble...
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:42 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 21:57:25 -0700 > Brent Jones dijo: > >>Welcome to Linux, and an unstable ABI between versions ;) >> >>For example, Solaris has binary compatibility from Solaris 2.3 to 9.0, >>no such luck with Linux. > > How much does Solaris cost? > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Nothing ;-) Oracle releases an official version and there is the OpenSolaris project although that seems doomed if I am to believe what I've read. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Slackware upgrade trouble...
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Matt McKenzie wrote: > Hello, > > Though I haven't been on the Slak train in a while, I will say from > experience with other distros, doing upgrades can be bumpy, and doing one > from such distant versions can result in lots of hair-pulling. > > Best results are usually from saving your personal data and installing > fresh. This prevents any issues similar to what you describe. > A good way to do this is to have /home on a separate partition. This way > you save everything you want to keep in your /home directory, and you just > reformat / (and any other partitions you have). You can backup your > configurations in /etc and other places temporarily in /home (I usually do > that with tar.gz files). > > HTH > > -- > Matt M. > LinuxKnight > > > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Michael C. Robinson < > plu...@robinson-west.com> wrote: > >> I'm trying to upgrade Slackware 10.1 to Slackware 13. >> >> So far, I have determined that upgrading to Slackware 11's glibc is >> necessary. Maybe now xz will work? >> >> I'm getting an error that external command xz cannot be found even >> though I can see it under /bin and /usr/bin no problem. How do I >> get pkgtool which I have upgraded to the Slackware 13 version to >> see it? I have also upgraded tar, had to downgrade it first. I'm >> trying to follow UPGRADE.txt and I'm stuck trying to install >> findutils. >> >> ___ >> PLUG mailing list >> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Michael - It will take me some time but I have the ISOs going all the way back to 10.1 and I can setup a virtual machine and figure out the magic needed to get you up to 13. In my experience though you really can't jump more than one major revsion. So if you're at 10.1 go to 11.1 then 12.2 and then 13 .. should be doable. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Slackware upgrade trouble...
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 16:37 -0700, drew wymore wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Michael C. Robinson >> wrote: >> > I'm trying to upgrade Slackware 10.1 to Slackware 13. >> > >> > So far, I have determined that upgrading to Slackware 11's glibc is >> > necessary. Maybe now xz will work? >> > >> > I'm getting an error that external command xz cannot be found even >> > though I can see it under /bin and /usr/bin no problem. How do I >> > get pkgtool which I have upgraded to the Slackware 13 version to >> > see it? I have also upgraded tar, had to downgrade it first. I'm >> > trying to follow UPGRADE.txt and I'm stuck trying to install >> > findutils. >> > >> > ___ >> > PLUG mailing list >> > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >> > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> > >> >> You absolutely can't upgrade from 10.1 to 13 directly. You've got to >> step from like 10.1 -> 11.1 to 12 -> 13 >> >> Pat moved the package format from tgz to xz as it's a far better >> compression format, in fact I believe Fedora is using it some capacity >> too. >> >> Drew- >> ___ >> PLUG mailing list >> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > Is it just glibc that needs to be upgraded 10.1 to 11.0 to 12.0 to 12.2 > to 13? I hate to have to download the whole Slackware 11, 12, and 12.2 > distributions. > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > You're gonna have to do a full package upgrade. glibc, the utils and pkgtool itself since there was the compression arch change. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Slackware upgrade trouble...
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: > I'm trying to upgrade Slackware 10.1 to Slackware 13. > > So far, I have determined that upgrading to Slackware 11's glibc is > necessary. Maybe now xz will work? > > I'm getting an error that external command xz cannot be found even > though I can see it under /bin and /usr/bin no problem. How do I > get pkgtool which I have upgraded to the Slackware 13 version to > see it? I have also upgraded tar, had to downgrade it first. I'm > trying to follow UPGRADE.txt and I'm stuck trying to install > findutils. > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > You absolutely can't upgrade from 10.1 to 13 directly. You've got to step from like 10.1 -> 11.1 to 12 -> 13 Pat moved the package format from tgz to xz as it's a far better compression format, in fact I believe Fedora is using it some capacity too. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Eee PC 900 shutdown problem...
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:44 AM, someone wrote: > The problem is, Xandros when the power adapter is connected simply won't > shut down. This problem started when the battery ran completely out of > power. If I disconnect the power brick, I can shut down and the computer > won't automatically restart 3 seconds later. I've tried installing Slackware > 13, the problem didn't go away. I'm tempted to try Ubuntu 10.04 > hearing that there might be a fix for this, but not knowing exactly > why this is happening > the chances of fixing it are slim to none. > > I've tried adding modprobe -r snd-intel-hda to the halt script, but that > doesn't fix the problem. > > This must be a hardware problem, how could a software bug manifest > itself magically two years after the computer was purchased and came > off of > warranty? > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Sounds like a HAL sleep problem if I understand the question correctly. There have been various sleep problems with Linux laptops for years =( ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu 10.04
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 9:59 PM, someone wrote: > Has anyone gotten Dungeons of Daggorath 0.4.0 or Micropolis (simcity) working > with this release? > > I installed the standard C++ libraries, version 5, from a deb package. > Dungeons of Daggorath segmentation faults. > > I took all the libraries installed by Dirk Dashing and moved them to /opt/lib > adding a line to /etc/ld.so.conf for them. > > Oh, Micropolis when I try to run it complains about the X terminal or > some such saying something about slowness. > > Mostly seems to work. I grabbed a nearly empty partition from Windows 7 and > so far I'm fairly certain that 7 won't try to take it back or > otherwise malfunction. One worry is that 7 will want to recover the > lost space or worse, > 7 will want to write to it. > > Looks like the computer is ready to go pretty much, just need to > figure out how to get the updates installed. > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Log messages? "Some such" isn't very helpful =( Post the segfault so we can figure out what sent the signal and the X slowness messages. Otherwise it's just shooting in the dark. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Windows 7 issue...
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 08:06 -0700, Terrence Hulse wrote: >> OK, first off I know some linux users hate Microsoft and Bill Gates...at >> least that is the general impression I've had and you appear to be one of >> them and I'm not judging you for that. This isn't the forum for that >> discussion. >> >> I've been supporting users both retail and corporate for years...since the >> days of CPM. My bottom line is if you don't like what you bought take it >> back and for your replacement purchase make sure you know whether it comes >> with the OS/Drivers media and how to do a system restore and also whether >> the manufacturer supports linux in any way (drivers, OS, etc.). >> >> BTW..ASUS does sell different models of the Eee PC with GNU linux instead of >> Windows. >> >> Terry > > First off, I never said I hated Windows 7. I said I hate not getting > media for a copy of Windows I've paid for let alone a way to restore > the system from an off the hard drive source. Second off, Preheim > computers does not offer Linux pre-installed on an Asus Eee anymore > and Asus apparently doesn't either anymore for their laptops. Third > complaint, it is extremely hard to remove and/or replace the hard drive > which is probably a proprietary size wise and buried inside the laptop > case. If I could remove the hard drive safely, that would be the backup > in case the laptop needs to go into the shop for a hardware problem. > Fourth problem, Microsoft's backup program didn't write any readable > DVD's when I tried to image the system with it. What's the point of a > backup program that doesn't work? > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Michael - What's the exact model so I can google what you need to do in order to create proper restore media ... Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Windows 7 issue...
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:42 PM, someone wrote: > I know this is a Linux list, that's why I can talk about Windows 7 > getting in the way of installing Linux on an Asus Eee PC with a 1.6 > Ghz atom processor, 1 gig of ram, 250 GB hard drive, web camera built > in, 14 hour battery life, and well that probably about covers it. > This is the one that costs about $379. > > No media disks provided. I'm having the store inquire about getting them. > My dad's HP laptop has the same problem I found out. If I have to back up > this Windows 7 system using Linux, can I do better than dd'ing the whole > entire drive? I want to dual boot, the hard drive should be big enough. > The trouble is, how do I reinstall the boot loader without installation > media? Do I need to dd copy the first four megs of the drive? Do I copy > certain files off under Linux? The gentoo based system on CD that I have > doesn't boot correctly on this machine, so I can't use a resizing tool :-( > > I wonder if NTFS-3g which I have a full implementation of now is good enough? > I'm about ready to suggest buying another hard drive and popping the Windows 7 > drive out in case the computer has to be taken in for servicing. > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Maybe look for a free usb/cd bootable imaging tool? I posted a FOSS one awhile back. As was already mentioned most new laptops and desktops have a hidden partition that is used for system restore. That said, You can look at Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Computer Management -> Disk Management and it'll show up there usually. Cheers, Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Trouble updating kernel...
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:10 AM, someone wrote: > I'm on a Slackware 10.1 system that currently runs a 2.6.10 kernel. > > I got a 2.6.27 kernel to boot by replacing the init scripts with the ones > from Slackware 13. The problems encountered doing that are numerous though. > > I found something called slackpkg googling online, but it doesn't appear > to allow upgrading from one release of Slackware to another. > > I updated pkgtool to slackware 13's pkgtool, didn't seem to break anything. > I then added xz only to find that xz doesn't work without glibc-2.6 which > appears to be in xz compressed format! I haven't applied slackware 13's > tar or gzip yet. > > There has to be a standard pain free way to upgrade glibc and udev to get > around the bug that I'm fighting. > > Short of tearing into the computer so I can set up cd booting again, and > there's the trouble of finding a slackware 13 cd, I only have a floppy > drive to work with at boot time. > > I got the 2.6.27 kernel I compiled to boot, but that is about all I > got it to do. The framebuffer was limited to 640x480 resolution and > the network cards, > a netgear fa311 and a Alvarion PC DS-11.b in a PLX adapter, didn't work. > > I am not allowing this computer to have Internet access, so slackpkg > may not be all that useful. > > How can I get a base Slackware 13 install with just a floppy disk and possibly > some packages on a zip disk or a cdrom? I don't have a DVD drive in > the computer where booting from CD requires going into the case and > turning the onboard controller back on. I use a promise 20267 instead > of the Asus P5A-B's builtin parallel ata controllers. I have > Slackware 13 on an ftp server, but I need a live cd or something > similar to boot up in Slackware 13 and launch the > setup program. > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > As far as I know you're going to need an initrd in order to use your network peripherals in a hacked together 13 install. Why not just build the kernel from source from kernel.org ? You can PXE boot newer version of Slack if the NIC supports it. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] ATAPI floppy bug...
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: > Does the 2.6.10 kernel have a problem with the atapi floppy driver? I > have a zip250 atapi drive and I am seeing error messages suggesting as > much. I have crashed the Slackware 10.1 system completely a few times. > > I'm going to try and install a 2.6.27-48 kernel. I don't know if I can > compile and install this level of the 2.6 kernel without upgrading > anything else. > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Kernel upgrade on Slackware will be fine. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Really bad DELL experience...
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:26 PM, someone wrote: > I tried to order an Inspiron mini 10 Ubuntu 9.1.0 mobilon 2.1 Dell laptop. > > The keyword is tried. The laptop came without an operating system. > The laptop came without media. To make matters worse, sending the > laptop to the shop to be diagnosed for hardware problems, it came back > to me without an operating system and without media. > > DELL tried really hard to push me into installing Ubuntu 8.04 telling me that > 9.1.0 is not supported and that they can't send me media for it. I > asked why I couldn't send the laptop back in to have the proper > contractual version of Ubuntu installed. DELL still insisted that > they cannot install that going even further suggesting that I could > download the generic version and install it myself. Hello, I don't > order a DELL laptop with Linux pre installed just to turn around and > install Linux on it myself. > > DELL ran my mother around Elmer's barn for 5 hours and brought her to > tears. Finally, I got tough and said basically, you have three > options. Option 1, take the laptop back into the shop and install the > contractual version of > Linux on it. Option 2, send me media to install Ubuntu 9.1.0 (mobilon > 2.1). Option 3, take the laptop back and refund the purchase price at > your expense. > > I asked DELL if there is an official site I can download the copy of Linux > that is supposed to be on the laptop from, they said that there isn't one. Michael - I hope this can help you sort the situation out. http://moblin.org/downloads that's what you'll need. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] named errors with "Bad cache, hit", "Unable to fina DNSKEY" etc. with Bulgarian servers
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Bill Thoen wrote: > On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:10:49AM -0700, drew wymore wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Bill Thoen wrote: > Next, before I put a copy of my named.conf file in a public forum, are >> > there any security issues I need to know about before I do something dumb? >> > >> >> Probably nothing to worry about, just remove any security stuff from >> the named.conf and post it >> > > Thanks Drew, but it all looks like potential "security stuff" to me. So I > think I'd better do some reading up on 'named' and its comfiguration first > so I have some idea what's what. At this point, I know so little that I > probably wouldn't understand the answers you could give me anyway. > > And like you said, it's probably not a serious problem. > > - Bill Thoen > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > >From my cursory reading and applying what I know about Bind, it was a query looking for some SOA record and the cache didn't have it which is why the bad cache hit shows up. Without looking at the full log file, it's hard to say if the query originated from Bulgaria or the query was for the domain itself. I googled the error itself and found some issues with RHEL and one of the packages being broken but you're at a patch level beyond the one reported. Definitely would be nice to know what you find out though. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] named errors with "Bad cache, hit", "Unable to fina DNSKEY" etc. with Bulgarian servers
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Bill Thoen wrote: > Recently, I started seeing errors like the following (see below) in the > named section of my Logwatch log. Googling for help on it turned up > another message with the same symtom, but the only response was "run rpm > -q bind dnssec-conf unbound and tell us what it says. Since there was no > follow-up, I still don't know what's happening or what to do about it. > Looking at which servers that are affected by this makes me wonder if I > should care. With names like btc-net.bg, ekk-bg, powernet.bg, comnet.bg, > icon.bg, etc. they look like spammers to me and maybe I should just > ignore them. I just don't like to see line and lines of error messages > in my logfiles every day that I don't understand. > > Anyway here's my system details: > [r...@www ~]# uname -a > Linux www.gisnet.com 2.6.30.10-105.2.23.fc11.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Feb 11 > 07:06:34 UTC 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > And here's the results of what they asked that other guy: > [r...@www ~]# rpm -q bind dnssec-conf unbound > bind-9.6.2-4.P2.fc11.x86_64 > package dnssec-conf is not installed > unbound-1.4.4-2.fc11.x86_64 > (unless I _need_ to install this, I just as soon not. I'm trying to > limit the files on my system to just the ones that I need.) > > Next, before I put a copy of my named.conf file in a public forum, are > there any security issues I need to know about before I do something dumb? > > And finally , this all started just a few days ago, and it's happening > to other people too. As far as I know, I don't have any reason to have > anything to do with these busy Bulgarian servers, so is there an easy > way to just stop them at the door before they even get far enough to > trigger these errors? > TIA, > - Bill Thoen > > Partial Error listing from my Logwacth log: > > validating @0x7fc04806c240: btc-net.bg SOA: bad cache hit > (btc-net.bg/DS): 1 Time(s) > validating @0x7fc04806c240: ekk.bg SOA: bad cache hit (ekk.bg/DS): 2 > Time(s) > validating @0x7fc04806c240: powernet.bg SOA: bad cache hit > (powernet.bg/DS): 1 Time(s) > validating @0x7fc050411f60: comnet.bg SOA: bad cache hit (comnet.bg/DS): > 1 Time(s) > validating @0x7fc050416d70: comnet.bg SOA: bad cache hit (comnet.bg/DS): > 1 Time(s) > validating @0x7fc05076c4f0: comnet.bg SOA: bad cache hit (comnet.bg/DS): > 1 Time(s) > validating @0x7fc0507fc550: comnet.bg SOA: bad cache hit (comnet.bg/DS): > 1 Time(s) > validating @0x7fc0507fe570: btc-net.bg SOA: bad cache hit > (btc-net.bg/DS): 1 Time(s) > validating @0x7fc048014970: bg DNSKEY: please check the 'trusted-keys' for > 'bg' in named.conf.: 1 Time(s) > validating @0x7fc048014970: bg DNSKEY: unable to find a DNSKEY which > verifies the DNSKEY RRset and also matches one of specified trusted-keys for > 'bg': 1 Time(s) > validating @0x7fc048014970: icon.bg NS: bad cache hit (icon.bg/DS): 1 > Time(s) > validating @0x7fc048019650: bg DNSKEY: please check the 'trusted-keys' for > 'bg' in named.conf.: 1 Time(s) > validating @0x7fc048019650: bg DNSKEY: unable to find a DNSKEY which > verifies the DNSKEY RRset and also matches one of specified trusted-keys for > 'bg': 1 Time(s) > validating @0x7fc048020690: bg DNSKEY: please check the 'trusted-keys' for > 'bg' in named.conf.: 6 Time(s) > validating @0x7fc048020690: bg DNSKEY: unable to find a DNSKEY which > verifies the DNSKEY RRset and also matches one of specified trusted-keys for > 'bg': 6 Time(s) > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Probably nothing to worry about, just remove any security stuff from the named.conf and post it Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Gnome menus Fedora 12...
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 5:18 AM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: > I have Dirk Dashing 1.1.1 full version and Rick Rocket full version and > I don't like the way the menu entries are set up. First off, the > uninstall links don't work unless you are root so I want to remove them. > Second off, I seemed to have messed up the Dirk Dashing menu so that the > link to the hints sheet is gone. > > Is there a tool to fix up the menu with or do I have to manually modify > files? Which files do I have to change? > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > http://galder.zamarreno.com/?p=822 ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] NVIDIA GeForce 6200 AGP...
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: > Is this a solid video card that doesn't drop out randomly under Linux? > > I have a Radeon HD 3450 AGP card that randomly stops sending a signal > to the CTL monitor and worse than that, I think the card is slow. > > I need a 4x AGP card with HDMI capability that will work solidly with > my CTL 220UW monitor under Linux. > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > *Most* NVIDIA cards should work very well under Linux. NVIDIA has dropped active Linux support for older GPU's and I'm not sure if the 6200 is included although the open source Nouveu(sp) driver should take care of it for you. I would research a bit to just make sure. Drew Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] SOLVED Re: NTFS write problems...
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: > On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 23:23 -0700, drew wymore wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Michael C. Robinson >> wrote: >> > I built an LFS system recently and I network boot it. Supposedly I have >> > ntfs write support but I am not able to delete files and I don't seem to >> > be able to write. Am I missing something? >> > >> > ___ >> > PLUG mailing list >> > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >> > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> > >> >> Is the ntfs-3g module loaded? >> ___ >> PLUG mailing list >> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > That was it, compiled fuse and ntfs-3g from source and now I can do what > I need to do. Are there Linux side tools to format NTFS filesystems? > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > On my system it is called /usr/sbin/mkntfs Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] NTFS write problems...
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: > I built an LFS system recently and I network boot it. Supposedly I have > ntfs write support but I am not able to delete files and I don't seem to > be able to write. Am I missing something? > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Is the ntfs-3g module loaded? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Bash Script Error
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: > When I run this script: > > set $all="cat list" > for x in $all; `cat msg2 | mailx -s "Test Message"' $x > > I see this error: > > -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `cat msg2 | mailx -s "Test > Message"' > > What have I done incorrectly? Is it the semi-colon? > > Typing on two lines (beaking after the semi-colon) makes no difference. > > Rich > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > you need to add "do" after the semi colon. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Local Linux/Unix Groups/Businesses
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Tue, 6 Jul 2010, Nathan W wrote: > >> quick one first: > > Nathan, > > It looks very good. However, I urge you to change the text color to black > (or a very dark grey) to increase the contrast against the white background. > What you have might be perfectly clear and readable to young eyes, but not > to older ones. Regardless of application (web pages, presentations) always > chose high contrast between background and text (and avoid dark backgrounds, > too). > > Rich > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > I prefer white backgrounds with yellow text myself :-p Sorry just had to slip that in there. I Agree with Rich and Ali, high contrast is the way to go. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Local Linux/Unix Groups/Businesses
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Nathan W wrote: > Apologies in advance for continuing to hit the mailing lists with > requests for feedback, but i'm really getting to the point where > community input is preferable for the last few bits. > > *ahem* this one's a scorcher, ye been warned. > > 2 quick things, only one of which requires feedback. > > quick one first: the calendaring solution has been set up and is > functional, rather than using a third party solution ala google calendar > (oh how i loathe to trust a 3rd party w/ critical functionalities), i've > instead written a php script to generate the current months calendar, > and compare the dates to a simple csv file containing event info, > finally setting a tooltip for event days. i do plan to turn these into > links eventually, but for the moment i'm keeping that one back until the > wiki is set up and ready. > if you wanna see it in action, same url as before: > http://nathanewilliams.com/projects/pdxlinux/ > if you happen to wanna look at teh codez: > http://www.badgerbait.net/offtopic/php-calendar-from-a-csv-file (note > this site's been getting hammered by spambots, so may be a little slow > tonite) > > > second: here's a cleaned up (lots of dead links) and slightly fleshed > out (as much as prior knowledge and a cursory google search could) > version of the NW Linux Groups/Businesses list from the current site's > resources list. if you know of a group i've left out, please add their > info at the url below, and i'll add to the list before updating the site. > > http://pastebin.org/384933 > > alternatively, this could go into a wiki article, but then i don't know > what i'd put into side-nav... maybe a local it jobs rss feed or something... > > thanks for your continued patience and advice/opinions folks, we're > almost there w/ the site. > > regards, > > nathan w > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Nathan - Looks very good and I like the calendar idea, simple yet effective. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Munin, comcast, bits, bytes oh bother.....
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Sean Whitney wrote: > I'm writing a plugin for munin to monitor my monthly bandwidth usage. > > Comcast has a "250GB" cap in place, that I've blown through 4 out of the > last 5 months. June was 346GB according to Comcast. The second day of > July and I've already used 4% of my cap. > > The plugin looks at my outside facing interface, adds upstream and > downstream bytes together and divides by the uptime. This gives me > bandwidth usage for a daily and a monthly average and let's me look at > see what direction it's trending. > > My question. ifconfig provides bandwidth in bytes and normally I'd just > multiply by 8 and get bits and be done with it. However Comcast in > their infinite wisdom has decided to display the "bandwidth" usage in > bytes too. So I really want to show "bandwidth" in bytes so I'm looking > at apples. > > There is a scaling value in munin if you are looking at memory or > traffic you can stipulate 1000 or 1024 as the multiple. I'm leaning > towards using the 1024 value to show bytes, but it just seems "wrong". > > > Sean > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > On every router/switch/dslam/bit/byte shop I've worked at or on it's always been 1024 but I wouldn't count out Comcast to be *different* Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Search engine dependency and Linux...
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:54 AM, Someone wrote: > How often does someone say, use Google to get the answer for your Linux > question? The suggestion isn't to use Yahoo, Dogpile, Bing, drop in > some other obscure search engine. The suggestion is to use Google as > if Google has become the defacto standard for answering Linux questions. > > The whole point of Linux mailing lists is that community is built up and > perhaps just perhaps, the question related to the question being asked > might get answered. By asking about serial ATA enclosures on a Linux > list I am asking beyond my question if external SATA is worth pursuing > on a Linux based system. > > A search engine has a hard time answering a question behind a question > unless there is a valuable programmed in expectation. Search engines > are not intelligent and they never will be. Expectations can be > statistically helpful, but they do not always lead to presenting what > the researcher wants/needs. A human being with creativity has a much > better chance than a computer of making a useful presentation to > someone. A thing to be aware of is that Google has advertisers who pay > money which puts pressure on Google to produce hits for those > advertisers even if that is nonsensical. > > Google does not equal Linux. Linux is a phenomenon outside of Google > that predates Google and one which will hopefully outlast it. > > Google may not stay free. > > Google's chrome will likely be pushed by Google instead of Linux. > > Google's book plans, are the freedoms associated with paper back books > that are taken for granted going to be lost in the e-book world? > > I've used Google a lot to do Linux research and I must say that Google > is not always a good tool. Sometimes you get bogged down with old > information and junk. A lot of the HOWTOs haven't been updated for > recent changes and in general this kind of documentation seems to be > lapsing. Use Google or use my wiki seems to be the mantra, but there > are problems with that. First off, search engines have trouble getting > the right information in front of you at times whereas wikis can be > destroyed by malicious people injecting erroneous information or > removing correct information. > > Search engines are impersonal and have limited utility. They cannot > give you a sense of community whereas being on a mailing list where > there are other real people on the list can. > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Michael - At various times I know I have told you to Google it or used lmgtfy.com and at no time have I tried to be rude about it. I'm not going to take sides and get into a flame war. That said, in my own personal experience with using Linux and we're talking 11 years now, when I needed to know something I was always told to research it, of course research has been turned into Google in this day and age. People at the time when I started out gave me a very important piece of information. That is, they were more than willing to help you if you were willing to help yourself. I'm not saying that you don't. I'm not making value judgements. Just stating my own experience. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] ESATA cages...
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 12:35 AM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 21:13 -0700, Aaron Burt wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 06:12:53PM -0700, Someone wrote: >> > I recently ordered ESATA cages and noticed on the boxes that it says >> > supports up to 500 GB. Hunh? I thought these could handle 2 TB drives. >> > So, anyone know the story on this one? I hate to go that small. >> >> Michael-- >> 1. In what way did a Google search not answer your question? >> 2. Did you contact the people you bought the cages from? They are paid to >> handle questions about things they sell. >> 3. What did you hope to gain by posting to PLUG, without any info on what >> you tried first, let alone make/model/chipset info? >> >> HTH, >> Aaron >> ___ >> PLUG mailing list >> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > I got them from Tigerdirect out of Florida. > > As far as why did I ask on a Linux list, because I'm only concerned with > whether or not they will work on a Linux based machine. As far > as your google is always the answer attitude, Google has a lot of cruft > where external sata cages were very hard to find in the first place. > Most places want to sell you USB2 external drive enclosures. I also > went on vacation, so I didn't have all the time in the world to Google > this question where I'm sure I am not the only one who would appreciate > having an answer. > > The product looking at the box really doesn't have an identifying name. > The product is merely identified as, > (3.5" SATA to e-SATA HDD ENCLOSURE), which is about as useful as saying > it is an external hard drive cage. > > These enclosures have an on/off switch, so I'm wondering if hot swapping > is at all possible under Linux? > > As far as pushing Google, Google is one company and frankly a defacto > Monopoly when it comes to which search engine people tell you you > should use to figure things out. Never mind that there is increasingly > controversy surrounding Google, consider Google books for instance. > I don't particularly like Microsoft and I'm not into Bing, but Google > needs to be taken down a notch or two and competed with aggressively. > Google should not be considered synonymous with Linux, especially now > that Google wants to come out with Chrome, their own OS. > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Issues aside - I have purchased enclosures that stated a 500GB limit and have successfully used larger drives in them, albeit they were USB enclosures. I surmise it might be an issue with power draw perhaps so they are just playing a game of CYA? Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Dell Inspiron Mini update...
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 12:44 AM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: > Don't know why, but Dell can not or will not provide installation media > for Ubuntu. To make matters worse, Dell somehow shipped the little > laptop without any operating system whatsoever. If Ubuntu had been > installed, there is supposedly a way to create installation media. > Between being forced to have a hard drive and Dell forgetting to > install Ubuntu Linux, I'm a bit shocked. I really wanted to have > Linux installed on an SSD, especially in something this small. Asus > used to offer a version of Debian on the Eee PC installed to a 20G SSD, > but they discontinued that and went to a Windows 7 or Windows XP only > policy. Dell offers the SSD for Windows XP, but not for Linux (lame). > > I can't complain about Dell wanting to service the laptop. The plastic > isn't even removed completely. I think there is room in the market for > someone to do Linux based laptops better than this. I was worried > talking with Dell that they didn't realize the laptop is supposed to > have Linux on it. Maybe Dell will get it's act together. > Unfortunately, Dell appears to be the only Linux act in town with Asus > bowing out. Who else is offering Linux pre installed laptops? I think > there really is room for someone to come to market focused on Linux and > not offering Windows at all. Another thing, Ubuntu is popular but > Ubuntu isn't the only reasonable Linux choice. > > If you can support cutting edge hardware and actually get it to perform > reasonably well under Linux, even if that means some proprietary > drivers, then there really is no need for Windows. I see the gaming > industry starting to embrace Linux and with better graphics there is > more to use graphics for than just games. I'm not satisfied with this > experience so far, though I could consider this an anomaly. In general > though, a lot had to be given up to get Linux as the OS where I > shouldn't have had to give up SSD, multi core processor, etcetera. > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Google found this http://www.mydellmini.com/forum/ubuntu-netbook-remix/271-dell-mini-9-ubuntu-restore-iso-image.html Not sure which mini you have but the install media should be available out there somewhere on the internet if not via Dell directly. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] What is Gates up to now?
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:04 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > Best I can figure is he is taking a swipe at Google docs. But there > might be fallout against OOo. > > http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/web-apps/ > > I assume you don't get to use the MS web apps unless you have a license > for MS Office. Or maybe not. > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Free for personal use without an office license. Looks like it's a direct attempt to take on Google Docs and extend Microsoft's Sharepoint install base perhaps. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Migrating to 64-bits
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:51 PM, drew wymore wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Rich Shepard > wrote: >> I need to upgrade my server/workstation to Slackware-13.0 and -13.1, and >> will install -13.1 on the Dell Latitude E5410 I just ordered (when I wipe >> the pre-installed crud off the drive). I might as well bite the bullet now >> and move from the 32-bit distribution version to the 64-bit one. >> >> Preferring that the transition not bite me back, particularly on my main >> machine, I'd appreciate pointers to documents that will teach me what to >> expect from the transition. My server/workstation has much data, and many >> installed applications that are not part of the Slackware distribution. The >> distribution-specific questions I'll get answered by those experts, but I'd >> like to prepare by learning what, in general, I should expect. >> >> I've not found a 32-bit to 64-bit HOWTO, so pointers from you experienced >> folks will be very helpful. >> >> Rich >> ___ >> PLUG mailing list >> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> > > I need to track down the link on the howto Rich but there is a way to > run Slackware in both 32 and 64 bit side by side so you an run either > set of packages without worrying about the arch it was compiled for > which might make for an easier transition. > > Drew- > This isn't the one I was thinking of but this also accomplishes the same thing http://www.hydronitrogen.com/374/slackware-13-0-and-13-1-multilib-quick-and-easy-script/ ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Migrating to 64-bits
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: > I need to upgrade my server/workstation to Slackware-13.0 and -13.1, and > will install -13.1 on the Dell Latitude E5410 I just ordered (when I wipe > the pre-installed crud off the drive). I might as well bite the bullet now > and move from the 32-bit distribution version to the 64-bit one. > > Preferring that the transition not bite me back, particularly on my main > machine, I'd appreciate pointers to documents that will teach me what to > expect from the transition. My server/workstation has much data, and many > installed applications that are not part of the Slackware distribution. The > distribution-specific questions I'll get answered by those experts, but I'd > like to prepare by learning what, in general, I should expect. > > I've not found a 32-bit to 64-bit HOWTO, so pointers from you experienced > folks will be very helpful. > > Rich > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > I need to track down the link on the howto Rich but there is a way to run Slackware in both 32 and 64 bit side by side so you an run either set of packages without worrying about the arch it was compiled for which might make for an easier transition. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] It is about time - Novell
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Pete Lancashire wrote: > http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100610161411160 > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > A win for Linux, Novell and a wonderful defeat to those who use patent trolling and licensing schemes to make up for a poor broken business model. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Colocation Servers in PDX
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 8:53 PM, David Mandel wrote: > I use to use seaccp.org in Seattle and liked them a lot; but Seattle > is a long ways from Corvallis when trouble happens. > > I'm not aware of any equivalent in the Portland area. One reason for > that is that we have osuosl.org. At Linux Fund, we finally moved > to osuosl. They are great, but their mission is much more restricted > that seacpp's, so many people and groups who can use seacpp can not > qualify to use osuosl. Also, seacpp gives users more freedom than > osuosl generally does. > > There are a number of small, friendly, high quality for-profit hosting > services in Portland. The one that comes to my mind is forked.net. I > used them for several years and really like them. > > Seacpp has had financial difficulties at times even though it is > located in Seattle. Given that Seattle is larger than Portland and > that Portland is already served by the likes of osuosl and forked.net; > I doubt that a Seacpp could succeed in Portland - BUT I could well be > wrong on this. > > > Sincerely, > David Mandel > Executive Director > LinuxFund.org > 560 SE Alexander > Corvallis, Oregon 97333 > (971) 223-5169 land > (541) 730-5285 cell > > > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Mike Connors wrote: >>> Is there a community colocation datacenter in Portland OR? I am >>> looking for somewhere to put a server, and I would like to do it in a >>> community-based datacenter like sfccp.net or seaccp.org. Is there >>> something like this in Portland? >> >> Hi Ike - Not that I know of. I asked the same thing last fall and also >> asked if people would be interested in starting one. I'm still >> interested in such an endeavor... >> >> -Mike >> ___ >> PLUG mailing list >> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Perhaps if we could get a group of us together and then go about contacting local DC providers and see what kind of pricing on a per cabinet basis we could get? I am fortunate that an Infinity Internet customer who has 2 cabinets loans me 1U of space, I believe he's paying about 500 per cab per month which isn't too bad as it includes 1 20 amp circuit and a large amount of bandwidth. If we got enough people who were interested, willing and were in it for a reasonable period of time perhaps we could all rent a cab and share. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Help with some partition trickery.
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Scott Garman wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a Windows installation that I'd like to convert to a VirtualBox > VM so I can run it under Linux. This is possible under certain > circumstances, as described here: > > http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Migrate_Windows > > I have tested the process by taking a dd image of the 80 GB drive and > successfully got it to boot within VirtualBox. However, the Windows > installation is only 12 GB or so and the 80 GB disk space hit is too > much of a problem for me. I'd like to instead have a 20 GB VM. > > So I revisited the original Windows hard drive and re-sized the first > partition to 20 GB. Unfortunately, as the above web page mentions: > > 3. Either pull the drive from the windows machine or copy the data with > a low level image tool (like dd) to a USB drive or other removable > media. If making an image, DO NOT image just the partition, this will > not work! > > And just to be certain, I tried imaging just the partition and verified > the documentation is in fact correct. :) > > Since AFAIK once you start with a VM of a particular size, you cannot > actually "shrink" it, I'd like to figure out if there is some way I can > simulate this single 20 GB partition into being a hard drive with a > valid partition table indicating the size of the drive is 20 GB. Is this > possible, and how? > > I'm eager to learn more about how disk partitions work in the process, > so point me at some documentation if you have a high confidence that it > will allow me to resolve this problem. > > Thanks, > > Scott > > -- > Scott Garman > sgarman at zenlinux dot com > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Not tested but google seems to say this should work. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24864/virtualbox-from-an-existing-partition Use vmware converter to convert the existing install into a vmware instance, load said instance into Virtual Box (it's supported apparently) ... profit??? Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] DSL options in Portland
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 11:37 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > Comcast just raised my rates. The increase is trivial, but far more > annoying is that the service is decreasing. Six months ago > speedtest.net reported a high of 3 MB/s. Now it is just over 2 MB/s. > The new rate is 55.59/month, which includes 11.49 for basic TV. > > When I say "2 MB/s" I mean megabytes per second. That is, assuming the > server can feed me as fast as Comcast will let me download it, I can > download a full 700 MB Ubuntu live CD in about six minutes. > > I do not have wired home telephone service; that is, I discontinued the > land telephone a couple years ago since I never use anything but my > cell. I'm not very popular, so no one ever calls me anyway. > > Googling around leads me to a confusing bunch of options for DSL. I'd > pay more for faster speeds. Are there any options that are faster than > the 2 MB/s that Comcast is now giving me? > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > FWIW I'm paying 25 a month for 7Mbps DSL through Qwest. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Backup over network...
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: >> The ntfs-3g module for NTFS read and write support is pretty good >> although I can't speak to the specific task you're trying to achieve. >> >> I'm not sure why you're wanting to use a PXE setup, it seems as if >> you're making this needlessly complicated but to each their own. If >> that setup works for you, then that's great. Something like live >> booting clonezilla just automates imaging the box to a remote >> filesystem and accomplishes the same task as dd'ing without wasting >> space copying empty blocks. > > I prefer PXE over a CD plus a backup box or worse an external hard drive > because: > > 1) Using network based booting and backup doesn't involve carrying hard > drives or other media around that can get lost or dropped. > > 2) Keeping the backup source/destination drive off of the machine being > backed up, it is less likely that one is going to accidentally: > overwrite it, partition it, or erase it. > > 3) I don't have to potentially buy a hard disk for every single computer > I want to back up. > > 4) I can back up multiple machines simultaneously, although this does > slow my server down a lot. > > 5) I don't want to be forced into having a DVD drive on every single > computer I want to back up and restore let alone a writer. The Alpha > and the G3 Mac are probably not going to work with a single boot cd. > I'm actually worried about whether or not PXE is available for these > platforms. > > I'm after both a simple and powerful solution. Having a Linux command > line and useful tools at your fingertips is a powerful approach. I can > do more than just perform backups and do restoration work, I have > network monitoring tools as well. I'm hoping that dd isn't the only way > I can back up an NTFS volume and restore it. The best I can do if I'm > forced to go the dd route is compress the resulting images with bzip2. > > The idea behind network booting is to run off a stable system that is > not on the potentially messed up local hard drive. There is no need to > find a boot disk/CD/DVD. This isn't entirely true, I have some > computers that are going to need a PXE disk potentially. > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Well if I understand original post then you just plan on PXE booting your fathers new machine using the CentOS box and performing the backup correct? You don't need to worry about 32 bit vs 64 bit as you should have no issue running a 32 bit OS on 64 bit hardware you simply don't get the benefits afforded by the newer, better hardware. As far booting the Mac as long as the installed NIC support PXE you shouldn't have a problem doing it. I seriously doubt that the Alpha will be able to do that though. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Backup over network...
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: > Clonezilla is interesting, but why use a usb flash key or CD when I have > a PXE server? Appears that I have stabilized my raid 0 volume. I am > experimenting with Linux's NTFS support and tar. If I don't go the dd > route, how can I restore the boot sector? One thought for XP is to do a > partial reinstall so that the boot sector gets created, PXE boot, and > then erasing whatever files exist on the XP partition restore from > backup. Using tar over dd, the backup speed seems to be slower. > However, I can back up less overall as I don't have to store empty > space. I guess the real question is, how safe is Linux's NTFS support > at this point? Can I safely write using a tar archive to an offline > NTFS partition (mounted in Linux, not in Windows)? > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > The ntfs-3g module for NTFS read and write support is pretty good although I can't speak to the specific task you're trying to achieve. I'm not sure why you're wanting to use a PXE setup, it seems as if you're making this needlessly complicated but to each their own. If that setup works for you, then that's great. Something like live booting clonezilla just automates imaging the box to a remote filesystem and accomplishes the same task as dd'ing without wasting space copying empty blocks. Maybe others can chime in here about their backup and disaster recovery plans and layouts that might be something at least worth exploring. The more ideas the better. I use Norton Ghost to backup my Windows laptop and my parents laptop to an external drive and then keep a duplicate copy of the image on the NAS which is configured for RAID for extra redundancy [ although now that I've found this FOSS alternative I'm going to move to that ] . I sync my Linux box using SVN to a remote server I own that's co-located in a data center, I don't care about binaries just my personal project code and custom configuration files. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Backup over network...
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 11:00 PM, drew wymore wrote: > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:49 PM, drew wymore wrote: >> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Michael C. Robinson >> wrote: >>>> Since you have a network with storage, perhaps setting up Samba and >>>> using Windows built in backup facilities to store the image that is >>>> created on the network? Maybe that would be a viable solution given my >>>> understanding of your network. If you can provide additional details >>>> about exactly how things are laid out specifically in relation to this >>>> particular task then we might be able to offer better tips and >>>> suggestions. >>>> >>>> Drew- >>> >>> Sorry, I didn't know what the acronym meant. I tried googling, but the >>> information I'm getting appears to be very old. I'm trying to build a >>> backup system via network that allows me to do bare metal recovery. >>> I.E., Windows 7 gets trashed and as soon as a new hard drive that >>> works is put in, it is time to restore the last known good copy. >>> >>> Notice I'm not saying reinstall, but restore. In order to restore, >>> potentially to a new hard drive of equal or greater size, there is >>> a need to replace the boot sector and all the data. The backup >>> system isn't just being set up for Windows, my personal system >>> runs Fedora. I'd like to support backing up my brother's Sunflower >>> G3 Mac as well running Mac OSX 10.3 I believe. >>> >>> Right now, I'm trying to get my level 0 raid to persist across reboots. >>> I have a terabyte decimal of storage using two WD PATA 500G hard drives, >>> which is about 900 gigs binary. Last time I rebooted, the hard drives >>> in the raid volume came up as having no superblock. >>> >>> I probably will have to google for this, but off hand, does anyone know >>> if a terabyte exceeds what ext3 can handle for a single filesystem? >>> >>> I'm running CentOS 5.5 on the server. >>> >>> Using dd to create an image is probably not the way to go even for >>> Windows, but I'm not sure if I can trust Linux's NTFS support. I >>> am open to better ways to do a backup, but right now I'm in the can >>> I keep the data storage volume stable across reboots and can I >>> support all of the different systems stage. >>> >>> ___ >>> PLUG mailing list >>> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>> >> >> This might be a better option that dd'ing the drive which seems rather >> ugly (but I get why you're doing it) >> >> http://www.openfiler.com/ or similar. Once I have the funds to build >> up a backup box I'm going with something like this. I'm using a cheap >> Netgear SAN right now. >> >> Drew- >> > > Perhaps yet another FOSS option http://www.clonezilla.org/ > > Drew- > Reading the docs for clonezilla, that seems like it might be the way to go. Export your NFS partition(s), boot the live CD/USB and write the backup image to it. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Backup over network...
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:49 PM, drew wymore wrote: > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Michael C. Robinson > wrote: >>> Since you have a network with storage, perhaps setting up Samba and >>> using Windows built in backup facilities to store the image that is >>> created on the network? Maybe that would be a viable solution given my >>> understanding of your network. If you can provide additional details >>> about exactly how things are laid out specifically in relation to this >>> particular task then we might be able to offer better tips and >>> suggestions. >>> >>> Drew- >> >> Sorry, I didn't know what the acronym meant. I tried googling, but the >> information I'm getting appears to be very old. I'm trying to build a >> backup system via network that allows me to do bare metal recovery. >> I.E., Windows 7 gets trashed and as soon as a new hard drive that >> works is put in, it is time to restore the last known good copy. >> >> Notice I'm not saying reinstall, but restore. In order to restore, >> potentially to a new hard drive of equal or greater size, there is >> a need to replace the boot sector and all the data. The backup >> system isn't just being set up for Windows, my personal system >> runs Fedora. I'd like to support backing up my brother's Sunflower >> G3 Mac as well running Mac OSX 10.3 I believe. >> >> Right now, I'm trying to get my level 0 raid to persist across reboots. >> I have a terabyte decimal of storage using two WD PATA 500G hard drives, >> which is about 900 gigs binary. Last time I rebooted, the hard drives >> in the raid volume came up as having no superblock. >> >> I probably will have to google for this, but off hand, does anyone know >> if a terabyte exceeds what ext3 can handle for a single filesystem? >> >> I'm running CentOS 5.5 on the server. >> >> Using dd to create an image is probably not the way to go even for >> Windows, but I'm not sure if I can trust Linux's NTFS support. I >> am open to better ways to do a backup, but right now I'm in the can >> I keep the data storage volume stable across reboots and can I >> support all of the different systems stage. >> >> ___ >> PLUG mailing list >> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> > > This might be a better option that dd'ing the drive which seems rather > ugly (but I get why you're doing it) > > http://www.openfiler.com/ or similar. Once I have the funds to build > up a backup box I'm going with something like this. I'm using a cheap > Netgear SAN right now. > > Drew- > Perhaps yet another FOSS option http://www.clonezilla.org/ Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Backup over network...
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: >> Since you have a network with storage, perhaps setting up Samba and >> using Windows built in backup facilities to store the image that is >> created on the network? Maybe that would be a viable solution given my >> understanding of your network. If you can provide additional details >> about exactly how things are laid out specifically in relation to this >> particular task then we might be able to offer better tips and >> suggestions. >> >> Drew- > > Sorry, I didn't know what the acronym meant. I tried googling, but the > information I'm getting appears to be very old. I'm trying to build a > backup system via network that allows me to do bare metal recovery. > I.E., Windows 7 gets trashed and as soon as a new hard drive that > works is put in, it is time to restore the last known good copy. > > Notice I'm not saying reinstall, but restore. In order to restore, > potentially to a new hard drive of equal or greater size, there is > a need to replace the boot sector and all the data. The backup > system isn't just being set up for Windows, my personal system > runs Fedora. I'd like to support backing up my brother's Sunflower > G3 Mac as well running Mac OSX 10.3 I believe. > > Right now, I'm trying to get my level 0 raid to persist across reboots. > I have a terabyte decimal of storage using two WD PATA 500G hard drives, > which is about 900 gigs binary. Last time I rebooted, the hard drives > in the raid volume came up as having no superblock. > > I probably will have to google for this, but off hand, does anyone know > if a terabyte exceeds what ext3 can handle for a single filesystem? > > I'm running CentOS 5.5 on the server. > > Using dd to create an image is probably not the way to go even for > Windows, but I'm not sure if I can trust Linux's NTFS support. I > am open to better ways to do a backup, but right now I'm in the can > I keep the data storage volume stable across reboots and can I > support all of the different systems stage. > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > This might be a better option that dd'ing the drive which seems rather ugly (but I get why you're doing it) http://www.openfiler.com/ or similar. Once I have the funds to build up a backup box I'm going with something like this. I'm using a cheap Netgear SAN right now. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Backup over network...
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: > On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 19:15 -0700, drew wymore wrote: >> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Someone wrote: >> > My dad has one of those fancy quad core 64 bit Windows 7 laptops. I >> > have a Pentium III optimized LFS system which I can back up Windows and >> > Linux systems with as long as the computer is a Pentium III or IV. Will >> > a Pentium III Linux kernel boot a quad core computer??? >> > >> > I am using dd to dump entire hard drives, this is space intensive though >> > and I end up backing up fragmentation. Is there a better way that is as >> > powerful as hard drive imaging? Using dd is brute forcing the problem, >> > but this is a safe way to back a system up. >> > >> > If I need a 64 bit Linux kernel and a 64 bit optimized NFS mountable >> > Linux filesystem, how do I produce those on a 32 bit computer? Is it >> > possible to produce an Apple G3 compatible Linux system on a PIII based >> > Linux server? How about network booting a PC164 Alpha system? >> > >> > In general, I'm curious how to trick the Linux kernel source into >> > compiling on one computer for a totally different kind of computer. >> > >> > ___ >> > PLUG mailing list >> > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >> > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> > >> >> No offense meant by using lmgtfy > > What does lmgtfy mean? > > I want to be able to include my Dad's laptop in my network based backup > system which is made up of a network bootable Linux system and a large > backup area. For obvious reasons, installing Linux on my Dad's laptop > even just to export that installation to a server is not a realistic > option. > > Short of talking Dad into buying a second internal hard drive for his > computer and taking the Windows 7 drive out temporarily so I can install > 64 bit Linux, how am I going to put together a 64 bit Linux system > without a 64 bit quad core computer? I'm sure I'm not the only person > who cannot realistically buy a quad core computer just to facilitate > installing 64 bit Linux to it to then export that system over a network. > What if I had a really expensive mainframe computer with Windows on it > and I couldn't justify buying another one just in case? Heterogeneous > Linux/Windows networks are common where the difficulty of getting all > the machines backed up is nothing new. > > This problem isn't so far out where I would appreciate it if people > wouldn't resort to vague and probably colorful metaphors. > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Michael - I wasn't trying to use colorful metaphors nor not trying to be unhelpful. The very end of your query was about building 64 bit kernels on a 32 bit machine which would require cross compiling, hence the link to facilitate your search to help build upon the knowledge you'll need. Since you have a network with storage, perhaps setting up Samba and using Windows built in backup facilities to store the image that is created on the network? Maybe that would be a viable solution given my understanding of your network. If you can provide additional details about exactly how things are laid out specifically in relation to this particular task then we might be able to offer better tips and suggestions. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Backup over network...
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Someone wrote: > My dad has one of those fancy quad core 64 bit Windows 7 laptops. I > have a Pentium III optimized LFS system which I can back up Windows and > Linux systems with as long as the computer is a Pentium III or IV. Will > a Pentium III Linux kernel boot a quad core computer??? > > I am using dd to dump entire hard drives, this is space intensive though > and I end up backing up fragmentation. Is there a better way that is as > powerful as hard drive imaging? Using dd is brute forcing the problem, > but this is a safe way to back a system up. > > If I need a 64 bit Linux kernel and a 64 bit optimized NFS mountable > Linux filesystem, how do I produce those on a 32 bit computer? Is it > possible to produce an Apple G3 compatible Linux system on a PIII based > Linux server? How about network booting a PC164 Alpha system? > > In general, I'm curious how to trick the Linux kernel source into > compiling on one computer for a totally different kind of computer. > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > No offense meant by using lmgtfy http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=cross+compiling+linux+kernels ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Use of free DNS services
On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Scott Howard wrote: > Any suggestions for DNS services. Google has one. OpenDNS has one. They > both want resolv to be modified. Can I use more than one for the same domain > name. Do I have to modify. > > Scott Howard > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > You say same domain name are you looking for resolver DNS hosts for use at home for browsing or DNS hosting for a domain name that you own? Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Sorta OT -- Good book on web site positioning
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tim Wescott wrote: > drew wymore wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Paul Heinlein wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010, Tim Wescott wrote: >>> >>> >>>> What I /do/ want to know is how I can get my site to come up when >>>> folks go searching for people who do the sort of work that I do, >>>> hopefully without having to pay Google big bundles of bribe money. >>>> >>> I don't know any books, but here are my best suggestions: >>> >>> 1. Choose page titles that encorporate search keywords >>> 2. Choose subheadings and page text likewise. >>> 3. Run your HTML though tidy or some other syntax checker. >>> 4. Don't rely on images to convey content without corresponding text. >>> 5. Get other sites to link to yours. >>> >>> -- >>> Paul Heinlein <> heinl...@madboa.com <> http://www.madboa.com/ >>> ___ >>> PLUG mailing list >>> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>> >>> >> >> http://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/ >> > I was sure (but didn't _know_) that there was something like this from > Google, but I just couldn't find the right keywords. "webmaster > tools". Of course. > > -- > Tim Wescott > Wescott Design Services > Voice: 503-631-7815 > Cell: 503-349-8432 > http://www.wescottdesign.com > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > The tools will help you understand where your traffic is coming from, how google sees your site and things you can do to improve it within the search rankings. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Sorta OT -- Good book on web site positioning
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Paul Heinlein wrote: > On Tue, 27 Apr 2010, Tim Wescott wrote: > >> What I /do/ want to know is how I can get my site to come up when >> folks go searching for people who do the sort of work that I do, >> hopefully without having to pay Google big bundles of bribe money. > > I don't know any books, but here are my best suggestions: > > 1. Choose page titles that encorporate search keywords > 2. Choose subheadings and page text likewise. > 3. Run your HTML though tidy or some other syntax checker. > 4. Don't rely on images to convey content without corresponding text. > 5. Get other sites to link to yours. > > -- > Paul Heinlein <> heinl...@madboa.com <> http://www.madboa.com/ > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > http://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/ ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 'Ubuntu Help: Seamonkey Won't Load
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 6:22 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, Aaron wrote: > >> When I have a problem running something in X I will usually open a console >> and then run the command to start the app and see if there is a specific >> error causing the issue. Then start to troubleshoot from there. > >> Are you getting a specific error then? > > Aaron, > > Yes, I had tried that several times. Nothing displayed on the console > (such as 'file not found') and the application did not appear. That's why I > thought I was missing something because I could not identify a specific > problem. > > Rich > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Rich, Can you try running the application as root or another user and see if it starts correctly? I am wondering if it has to do with her prefs file being mucked up. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Fedora 12 and vmware mess...
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: > On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 11:23 -0700, drew wymore wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Michael C. Robinson >> wrote: >> > Well, the Fedora group needs to get busy and tune the system up. I am >> > having major speed problems and I had to do something quite strange to >> > get Dirk Dashing and Rick Rocket working with sound. I had to uninstall >> > a pulseaudio alsa backend rpm. I also had to install an obnoxious >> > number of debuginfo rpm packages. Do delete all the SDL libraries from >> > the game directories. Another tip on Rick Rocket, add /usr/lib to the >> > LD_LIBRARY_PATH in the rickrocket script. >> >> How old are those games? You can't really blame the distro if things >> like ALSA and OSS are deprecated for something better like Pulse >> Audio. > > With all due respect, the author of these Linux games worked with me to > troubleshoot them. Troy is working on Dirk Dashing 2 which hasn't come > out yet. What good is an upgrade if all the old software that people > actually have gets broken by it? I certainly meant no disrespect. At some point software gets old and new things come along in terms of hardware/software and it totally sucks when something that you're used to and also enjoy doesn't work properly especially when you've paid for it. But such is software I guess. Very nice of the dev to work with you to troubleshoot it btw. > > I have been a registered user of vmware workstation, I am not impressed > that Fedora 12 support is poor. If the free products don't work, I am > not even going to consider buying workstation. Fedora is a very popular > main line distribution of Linux, albeit it may be a little too bleeding > edge. CentOS is too much of a dinosaur for anything other than a > server. If only there was a project to continue improving the version > of Fedora behind the current version so that there is a middle of the > road option. > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 'buntus
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Bruce wrote: > On 04/25/2010 12:57 PM, drew wymore wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Michael Moore >> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Bruce wrote: >>> >>>> I landed in the Kubuntu environment. Kubuntu 9.10, in my experience, >>>> fell flat on it's ISO. I assumed it was growing pains of the latest >>>> KDE. I installed Ubuntu on my "it has to work" machine and then used >>>> the other laptop to tinker with 10.04 (starting with Alpha 2) of both >>>> Ubuntu and Kubuntu. Neither seems to be very spectacular in what it >>>> does. I haven't had any major problems, though I am far from a power user. >>>> >>> My thought: Ubuntu might not be the best choice for an "it has to >>> work" machine. That's not to insult or disparage Ubuntu, it's just a >>> reflection of Ubuntu being a reasonably bleeding-edge distro, akin to >>> Fedora. Any bleeding-edge anything is likely to have some bugs& >>> burps that creep into the shiny and new. Often, the problems that >>> distros get blamed for are the result of bugs (or, design decisions or >>> implementation changes that might be controversial) upstream, as Drew >>> already mentioned with regard to the missing xorg.conf. To some >>> extent, it is the responsibility of distros to put together a fully >>> functioning whole, but in practice there are so many moving parts that >>> it simply isn't possibly to be up-to-the-minute and completely free of >>> sometimes show-stopping bugs or usability issues. And when upstream >>> devs do something that annoys a lot of users, it's always the >>> bleeding-edge distro's users that get exposed to the annoyance first. >>> >>> Personally, I'd stay with something that doesn't prioritize the latest >>> and greatest over stability or usability for an "it has to work" >>> machine -- especially in light of your unsatisfying experience with >>> KDE/Kubuntu. In the Debian universe, there is nothing more stable >>> than Debian stable itself. In the Red Hat universe, many here have >>> talked about Scientific Linux or CentOS. >>> >>> Michael M. >>> ___ >>> PLUG mailing list >>> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>> >>> >> Good points Michael. I think one thing that I took away from that >> article as well was that it appears from the perspective of the writer >> that corporate interests, in this case Canonical, take away from the >> interests of the user base and that there seems to be a communication >> problem between the developers and the community and maybe that's >> where most of his problem is and not with the changes themselves. What >> seems to get lost in the discussion in my opinion is that Ubuntu for >> better or worse has become the face of desktop linux in many ways and >> with its notoriety and large install base it gets blamed for some >> things that have nothing to do with the distro itself (see the xorg >> complaint which is silly to me). >> ___ >> PLUG mailing list >> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> > I think this is where my questions started. If Canonical is going the > way of the commercial interest, then perhaps it is time to change. The > flip side of that...the buck has to stop somewhere and someone always > makes decisions that are not popular with everyone. > > Bruce > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Well said Bruce, the buck does indeed not to stop somewhere. My take is that Canonical isn't so much bowing to corporate interests and ignoring the community but that the community is now so large, there isn't going to be the consensus and ability to make every user happy anymore. It happens with most successful start ups at some point. That early excitement and enthusiasm and hard work to make users happy changes when the user base grows to a point you have to decide that meeting the middle is better and more worse the risk even if it means alienating those who supported you in your early days. I think the other part of this, being accused of bowing to corporate interests especially in the linux world is seen as evil and will be something that distro providers who, like Canonical and Red Hat will have to find a way to balance in order to be financially successful and not violate the spirit from which they were born. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 'buntus
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Michael Moore wrote: > On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Bruce wrote: >> >> I landed in the Kubuntu environment. Kubuntu 9.10, in my experience, >> fell flat on it's ISO. I assumed it was growing pains of the latest >> KDE. I installed Ubuntu on my "it has to work" machine and then used >> the other laptop to tinker with 10.04 (starting with Alpha 2) of both >> Ubuntu and Kubuntu. Neither seems to be very spectacular in what it >> does. I haven't had any major problems, though I am far from a power user. > > My thought: Ubuntu might not be the best choice for an "it has to > work" machine. That's not to insult or disparage Ubuntu, it's just a > reflection of Ubuntu being a reasonably bleeding-edge distro, akin to > Fedora. Any bleeding-edge anything is likely to have some bugs & > burps that creep into the shiny and new. Often, the problems that > distros get blamed for are the result of bugs (or, design decisions or > implementation changes that might be controversial) upstream, as Drew > already mentioned with regard to the missing xorg.conf. To some > extent, it is the responsibility of distros to put together a fully > functioning whole, but in practice there are so many moving parts that > it simply isn't possibly to be up-to-the-minute and completely free of > sometimes show-stopping bugs or usability issues. And when upstream > devs do something that annoys a lot of users, it's always the > bleeding-edge distro's users that get exposed to the annoyance first. > > Personally, I'd stay with something that doesn't prioritize the latest > and greatest over stability or usability for an "it has to work" > machine -- especially in light of your unsatisfying experience with > KDE/Kubuntu. In the Debian universe, there is nothing more stable > than Debian stable itself. In the Red Hat universe, many here have > talked about Scientific Linux or CentOS. > > Michael M. > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Good points Michael. I think one thing that I took away from that article as well was that it appears from the perspective of the writer that corporate interests, in this case Canonical, take away from the interests of the user base and that there seems to be a communication problem between the developers and the community and maybe that's where most of his problem is and not with the changes themselves. What seems to get lost in the discussion in my opinion is that Ubuntu for better or worse has become the face of desktop linux in many ways and with its notoriety and large install base it gets blamed for some things that have nothing to do with the distro itself (see the xorg complaint which is silly to me). ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Fedora 12 and vmware mess...
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: > Well, the Fedora group needs to get busy and tune the system up. I am > having major speed problems and I had to do something quite strange to > get Dirk Dashing and Rick Rocket working with sound. I had to uninstall > a pulseaudio alsa backend rpm. I also had to install an obnoxious > number of debuginfo rpm packages. Do delete all the SDL libraries from > the game directories. Another tip on Rick Rocket, add /usr/lib to the > LD_LIBRARY_PATH in the rickrocket script. How old are those games? You can't really blame the distro if things like ALSA and OSS are deprecated for something better like Pulse Audio. > > Vmware player 3 doesn't work at all on Fedora 12 unless you > rename /usr/lib/vmware/resources/mozilla-root-certs.crt. Sadly, it > appears without this certificate in the right place with the right name > that it is impossible to update vmware tools. My Windows 2000 VM > created using VMWare Workstation 6.5 is obnoxiously slow on Fedora 12 > under VMWare Player 3.01. Apparently, workstation 7 doesn't work any > better than the player. I upgraded from CentOS 5.4 because CentOS is > too far behind for a desktop system. Unfortunately, Fedora 12 seems to > be shaky at best. > I haven't had trouble so far but I have yet to try vmware, I avoid it like the plague unless I have to. Virtualbox is much better > I have a 3.06 Ghz P4 with 1.5 gigabytes of ram. This isn't the fastest > personal system on the planet, but it shouldn't crawl either. I realize > that I probably need to go 64 bit and multi core soon, but that looks > too costly at the moment. > > Sun VirtualBox on the other hand seems to work fine on Fedora 12. Now > then, if only there was a converter to go from vmware to virtualbox... > I think they don't care, the folks who produce vmware. Go google search > for trouble running vmware player on Fedora 12 and people are saying > that a new release of everything is needed. > > Does anyone know if the company that produces vmware virtualization > software has essentially given up on Fedora? > I doubt they've given up but the free stuff they release doesn't make them money .. I'm sure they focus more on the money making products > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 'buntus
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Bruce wrote: > All, > > I have been, with the help of this list, weaning myself and family from > the world of Micro$oft. I started out with SUSE somewhere around the > 6.* version. I followed a small crowd running the other direction when > Novell started contracting with the Redmond community. > > I landed in the Kubuntu environment. Kubuntu 9.10, in my experience, > fell flat on it's ISO. I assumed it was growing pains of the latest > KDE. I installed Ubuntu on my "it has to work" machine and then used > the other laptop to tinker with 10.04 (starting with Alpha 2) of both > Ubuntu and Kubuntu. Neither seems to be very spectacular in what it > does. I haven't had any major problems, though I am far from a power user. > > I ran across this article this morning and wondered what other folks > might think. I hope I am not inviting a flame war. I am still a > husband/father/truck driver and don't have time to research this myself. > > I would like some comment from your vast pool of experience as to what > this writer said. Most of my curiosity stems from the latter half of > this article. Pointers to articles, other distros, etc. are all > welcomed. If they come with your observations or opinions, so much the > better. > > http://www.ghabuntu.com/2010/04/where-is-ubuntu-going-to.html > > Thanks, > > Bruce > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > The xorg.conf thing missing that the writer points out isn't just an Ubuntu thing, it's an Xorg thing. I think that's where some of the disconnect and confusion comes into play about Ubuntu, it just packages software like any other distro and are at the mercy of upstream devs when it comes to startling changes like removing the xorg config file, FWIW you can create it that file and still use it like it was in previous versions. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Wireless Access Point Security
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Richard C. Steffens wrote: > m0gely wrote: >> 802.11b is also slow. There is no reason to set the router to B only. > > Slow was part of the strategy to make it less desirable. Probably lame, > but there you are. > > The only device that will be using wireless in this house is the WET11, > which will be connected to a ReplayTV DVR. And the WET11 only speaks > 802.11b. The only thing the DVR uses the connection for is downloading > schedule information, so speed is not an issue. > > I'll be using my laptop to verify that the access point works, but I > won't be using it wirelessly on a day-to-day basis. I have wired > Ethernet jacks around the house in most of the places I'll want to be > able to use the laptop. > >> Use WPA2 and a good password. Done. >> > > Passwording is a good idea, and I should figure out if the WET11 can > have one loaded into it to use to access the WRT54G. Re-configuration of > sharing on our XP and Linux machines so that only a "transfer" directory > is shared on each machine, and that we move things out of them quickly, > has been deemed to be sufficient by my wife. > > Thanks for the ideas. > > -- > Regards, > > Dick Steffens > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Dick, Just a note that you can operate in a mixed environment. You should be able to set the WRT54G to use B/G mode thereby not affecting the WET11. From what I've gathered from previous posts you're also in a less dense housing area so you shouldn't have to worry too much about wifi thieves. Maybe network security might be another topic that could be covered during a meeting if we lack speakers. I'd volunteer to share what I've used and know. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Wireless Access Point Security
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Richard C. Steffens wrote: > This is another phase of the thread, 2nd Router Setup. > > At last week's clinic we figured out how to set up my WRT54G as a > wireless access point to use with a WET11 bridge. The subject of > security arose and after a short conversation we decided I should try > using the WRT54G in 802.11b mode for two reasons: 1, the WET11 only > works on 802.11b, and 2, the wireless signal range of 802.11b is shorter > than 802.11g. > > This morning I installed the WRT54G in the basement and started walking > around with my laptop checking out the range. I got all bars showing > green up in my office on the 2nd floor and directly above the WRT54G. I > went outside and started walking up the driveway. By the time I got to > the street the laptop was still showing 2 bars. I thought, "Well, it's > clearly loosing signal strength. Maybe if I put a shield of some sort > between the WRT54G and the outside wall of the basement, which is the > direction of the street, maybe that will block the signal in that > direction." So, I took an aluminum cookie sheet and set it between the > wall and the WRT54G. I went back up the driveway and saw that, while it > dropped to 2 bars by the time I got to the street, It took longer to do > so, i.e. my shield worked to improve the signal strength! > > So, now I have radio questions: > > Would a shield work? > > Does it have to be grounded in order to be effective? > > BTW, I'm less concerned about the other three directions away from the > house because it's twice as far or farther from the location of the > WRT54G to the nearest neighbor in all three directions as it is to the > street. > > > -- > Regards, > > Dick Steffens > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Dick, You could go through the trouble of trying to shield the signal but I think it would be better to just make sure the 54G is using encryption (i.e WPA2) and you could turn off the SSID broadcast so that the AP won't be seen unless someone is using something like net stumbler or the like. And if you want to be even more paranoid, you could also set MAC filtering up in order to ensure that only the machines in your home are allowed to connect to the AP. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Dumb script question
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 9:44 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 20:24:15 -0700 > John Jason Jordan dijo: > >>On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 20:16:46 -0700 >>wes dijo: >> >>>how do you "change to root" ? I'm betting it's with sudo su rather >>>than just su. When you use sudo, it asks for jjj's password instead of >>>root's. >>> >>>There are 2 solutions available: change your script to use sudo in >>>front, or just have the commands run as root automatically on a >>>schedule via cron. >> >>Thanks for the heads up. Of course sudo su uses jjj's password, and I >>must have done that, although I could swear I used just su. I say that >>I must have done that because just now I tried su and got an >>authentication error. I suspect there is no root password set on the >>computer. I think Ubuntu does not set a root password by default. >> >>And, after thinking about it, the cron approach sounds simpler. I could >>set it to run just once a month, which would be sufficient to keep the >>clock reasonably current. >> >>Off to figure out cron. > > After an hour of trying to make sense of cron I gave up. I'm sure it's > an amazing tool that will do wonderful things, but I don't need to do > wonderful things. > > I installed gnome-schedule, which appears to be a GUI front end for > cron. Unfortunately, the documentation does not match the application > and there appears to be no way to run a command with it as root or as > superuser. > > So I edited my script and put sudo in front of both commands, made a > gnome-panel icon to launch it in a terminal, and it is working fine. > I'll run it whenever I notice the clock doesn't match my watch by > enough to care about. > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > When you find the time to explore cron Jason it's well worth the time spent. Maybe we could do a quick hits basics during one of the monthly meetings if we don't have speakers lined up to go over things like cron etc. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Dirk Dashing problems...
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: > I have version 1.1.1 of the Dirk Dashing demo and I am trying to run the > demo on a Fedora 12 system. There is no sound where attempting to > change any of the options in the option menu crashes the demo. Does > anyone know what is different between CentOS 5.4 and Fedora 12 that is > relevant to this problem? I am trying to work with Troy on this > problem, but I wonder if anyone else already knows a workaround. > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Pulse Audio vs Alsa/OSS maybe? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] CentOS 5.x/Fedora 12, Connect to Server, OOo read-only files
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Paul Heinlein wrote: > On Tue, 13 Apr 2010, Roderick A. Anderson wrote: > >> I'm trying to move a bunch of files off my desktop on to a server >> and still be able to access them from my rover (eeePC 100 running >> Fedora 12) and the workstation (CentOS 5). >> >> I have two issues with this setup. One _rather_ important (files >> open in OOo as read-only) and the other an irritation (Fedora >> insists on labeling the icon on the desktop with *everything* about >> the mount.) >> >> So first problem. When I do a Menu -> Connect to Server and fill in all >> the important information: Service type:SSH, Server: host.example.com, >> Folder: /home/user, Name to use for the connection: u...@host I get >> connection and I've copy/cut and pasted to the mount point, dragged and >> dropped to it and subdirectories with no problems. But ... when I open >> one of the files with OOo (Calc) it opens as read-only. Permissions are >> fine. The only hick-up is the owner and group IDs that show in File >> Browser window are those on the server which is not what I have on the >> workstation or rover. But if I edit a text file with gedit I can. > > OOo files are compressed collections of several files, aren't they? I > wonder if the problem is that you're not working on that file > directly, but on its contents. > > That would jibe with being able to do straight text editing with gedit > while being unable to use Calc files. > > -- > Paul Heinlein <> heinl...@madboa.com <> http://www.madboa.com/ > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Indeed they are compressed files .. found via el goog "As you can see, the editing interface is much like that of any other WYSIWYG word processor screen (the OpenOffice user interface is beyond the scope of this article). I saved the file as document.sxw. As with all files saved in OpenOffice native format, this is actually a ZIP file that contains a set of XML and other support files -- a bundling known as the OpenOffice package format. " But shouldn't permission inheritance be in play if this is the case? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] CentOS 5.x/Fedora 12, Connect to Server, OOo read-only files
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Roderick A. Anderson wrote: > I'm trying to move a bunch of files off my desktop on to a server and > still be able to access them from my rover (eeePC 100 running Fedora 12) > and the workstation (CentOS 5). > > I have two issues with this setup. One _rather_ important (files open > in OOo as read-only) and the other an irritation (Fedora insists on > labeling the icon on the desktop with *everything* about the mount.) > > So first problem. When I do a Menu -> Connect to Server and fill in all > the important information: Service type:SSH, Server: host.example.com, > Folder: /home/user, Name to use for the connection: u...@host I get > connection and I've copy/cut and pasted to the mount point, dragged and > dropped to it and subdirectories with no problems. But ... when I open > one of the files with OOo (Calc) it opens as read-only. Permissions are > fine. The only hick-up is the owner and group IDs that show in File > Browser window are those on the server which is not what I have on the > workstation or rover. But if I edit a text file with gedit I can. > > OOPS I forgot. The shell on the remote system is rssh not bash but this > is not a chroot/jail setup. I suppose I'll try with bash in case there > is an environment (~/.bashrc,~/.bash_profile) problem. > > Any thoughts ideas on what is going on? > > > The second "irritation" I have some more testing to do. I think I found > the solution the other day. Just not enough TUITs. > > > \\||/ > Rod > -- > All typos, mis-spelings, and bad grammar are mine but freely distributable. > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > I realize is probably going overboard but it's my favored set up that I've been using for about 6 years which is to use LDAP which resolves the UID/GID problems. I haven't played with the remote mounting stuff in Fedora yet but I'm doing an install on my laptop tonight so I can see if I have the same problem with shared files showing up read only if that's of any use. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Data extraction
On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Fred James wrote: > drew wymore wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Fred James wrote: >> >>> drew wymore wrote: >>> >>>> [omissions for brevity] >>>> >>>> Thanks Rich and Michael. I'll give the perl a shot and see what >>>> happens. As far as the data layout. It's 5 columns with roughly 1100 >>>> rows, the column I'm interested in has a variable number of words per >>>> entry but doesn't exceed a couple hundred words. >>>> >>>> I did enable fulltext searching within mysql which works fine for >>>> searching but doesn't give me the flexibility I'm looking for to >>>> actually just get a count of unique words. I did find something in PHP >>>> that is supposed to work but it's barfing on the array that's being >>>> returned by the mysql query. >>>> >>>> Drew- >>>> >>>> >>> drew wymore >>> So you extract 1100, 5 column records into a cvs file? I take it you have >>> that part down pat? >>> OK, so is there something special going on, or could a spreadsheet handle >>> your task? For example: is this a quick, once and done task? >>> Regards >>> Fred James >>> >>> PS: OOo spreadsheets will open cvs files either as comma separated, tab >>> separated (etc), or as fix length fields >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> PLUG mailing list >>> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>> >>> >> >> Fred, >> It's a monthly task that I'll be working with. The number of rows are >> variable but the columns are static, definitely have this down pat in >> terms of the export from Oracle. I have yet to find a routine within a >> speadsheet that gives me the desired results but I'm open to any and >> all suggestions. I've been working for a few days on this to try and >> find a reasonable and repeatable solution I can use for this task. >> >> Drew- >> > drew wymore > Assuming (since this is a Linux list) the platform is Unix/Linux ... I > am an AWK man myself and that would be my choice. Don't know if that > helps, but I hope so > Regards > Fred James > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Definitely Unix/Linux Fred ;-) I'd feel dirty using Windows. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Data extraction
On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Fred James wrote: > drew wymore wrote: >> [omissions for brevity] >> >> Thanks Rich and Michael. I'll give the perl a shot and see what >> happens. As far as the data layout. It's 5 columns with roughly 1100 >> rows, the column I'm interested in has a variable number of words per >> entry but doesn't exceed a couple hundred words. >> >> I did enable fulltext searching within mysql which works fine for >> searching but doesn't give me the flexibility I'm looking for to >> actually just get a count of unique words. I did find something in PHP >> that is supposed to work but it's barfing on the array that's being >> returned by the mysql query. >> >> Drew- >> > drew wymore > So you extract 1100, 5 column records into a cvs file? I take it you have > that part down pat? > OK, so is there something special going on, or could a spreadsheet handle > your task? For example: is this a quick, once and done task? > Regards > Fred James > > PS: OOo spreadsheets will open cvs files either as comma separated, tab > separated (etc), or as fix length fields > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Fred, It's a monthly task that I'll be working with. The number of rows are variable but the columns are static, definitely have this down pat in terms of the export from Oracle. I have yet to find a routine within a speadsheet that gives me the desired results but I'm open to any and all suggestions. I've been working for a few days on this to try and find a reasonable and repeatable solution I can use for this task. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Data extraction
On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Michael Rasmussen wrote:
>
> On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 12:10:03PM -0700, drew wymore wrote:
>> I have a large data set that is being exported from an Oracle DB,
>> unfortunately I can't work with the data directly in Oracle or this
>> wouldn't be a problem. I can export it as CSV and work with it.
>> ... I don't really care which language I
>> do it in and whether I do it directly from csv or a database source
>> other than Oracle (because I can't).
>>
>> Any clue sticks, ideas or links to something that might help me solve
>> this problem appreciated.
>
> With apologies to Randal...
>
> Assume you export to CSV and, for the purposes of this simple example there
> are no text fields that have commas embedded.
>
> And if the data of interest is in the third column:
>
> 3,14,word,blah,blech,bz
> 4,18,term,more,stuff
>
> then:
>
> perl -ne '@F=split /,/; $words{$F[2]}++; \
> END{ foreach $word (sort { $words{$a} <=> $words{$b} } keys %words) \
> { print "$word\t$word_appearance{$word}\n"; } } ' file_of_data.cvs
>
> Assuming you want it sorted by word frequency.
>
> Disclaimer: I'm at my in-laws for easter dinner and didn't test that.
> I'm reasonably sure that it's close enough that any gaps will serve
> as an exercise for the reader.
>
> --
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Thanks Rich and Michael. I'll give the perl a shot and see what
happens. As far as the data layout. It's 5 columns with roughly 1100
rows, the column I'm interested in has a variable number of words per
entry but doesn't exceed a couple hundred words.
I did enable fulltext searching within mysql which works fine for
searching but doesn't give me the flexibility I'm looking for to
actually just get a count of unique words. I did find something in PHP
that is supposed to work but it's barfing on the array that's being
returned by the mysql query.
Drew-
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[PLUG] Data extraction
Not sure if this should have been directed to off topic so feel free to redirect if that's where it needs to go. I have a large data set that is being exported from an Oracle DB, unfortunately I can't work with the data directly in Oracle or this wouldn't be a problem. I can export it as CSV and work with it. I've imported to MySQL and Postgres is an option as well. That said, I'm looking for a way to extract the frequency of words in a given column and then present a sorted list. I've found a few ideas relating to stored procedures but MySQL doesn't support it in such a way that it's applicable to what I want to do. I don't really care which language I do it in and whether I do it directly from csv or a database source other than Oracle (because I can't). Any clue sticks, ideas or links to something that might help me solve this problem appreciated. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 2nd Router Setup
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Richard C. Steffens wrote: > Neal wrote: >> Sorry but I'm out of time for now. Good luck with it. >> > > Me, too. Tomorrow's mostly tied up, but I'll try to fit in some more > testing. > > Thanks for your help. > > -- > Regards, > > Dick Steffens > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Dick, In theory the network setup I would use would be the following. LAN side Netgear = 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.252 WAN side Linksys = 192.168.0.2 255.255.255.252 That creates a nice little P2P network between the 2 devices with a /30 subnet then the LAN side Linksys as Neal pointed out needs to be something different such as 192.168.1.x ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Strange NFS problem...
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: > I have a network installed copy of Fedora 12 in Virtual Box and the > default setting is to PXE boot. I think my nfsroot menu is correct, > but every time I try to network boot I run into timeouts trying to > get the NFS port numbers followed by using defaults followed by > insert a floppy disk. If I boot the local copy of Fedora 12, I > can mount the share in question no problem. I tried increasing > the verbosity of NFS daemon logging, but that just poured a > pile of useless information into my logs. Is there a way to > change the default port in the kernel for nfsd and mountd? Can > I specify the correct ports as command line arguments? In my > case 2049 for NFS and 4002 I think for mountd. > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Can you post your configs from both boxes? I found this regarding PXE booting and NFS mounts http://www.digitalpeer.com/id/linuxnfs ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 2nd Router Setup
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:31 PM, m0gely wrote: > drew wymore wrote: > >> Dick, >> Flash with with DD WRT/Open WRT and you can put it in bridge mode so >> it'll just act as a range extender for the Netgear and you should be >> good to go. > > Extend the range of what? The Netgear he mentioned isn't wireless. > > Flash the WRT or not, but just disable DHCP and connect it to the > Netgear via one of the LAN ports. Assign it an IP on the same subnet as > the Netgear also. Not it's basically an access point. Then go get a > WET54G bridge and connect that to the ReplayTV to bridge it to the WRT. > > -- > m0gely > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > My bad I see the word router and immediately associate it with a wireless AP ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 2nd Router Setup
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Richard C. Steffens wrote: > I have had a Netgear RT-314 router connected to my Comcast cable modem > for many years. It still works fine. I recently bought a used ReplayTV > 4080 DVR. It uses an Ethernet connection to get TV program info. > Currently there is an Ethernet cable running across the floor in the TV > room. It connects the ReplayTV to a switch that is connected to the > router. Besides being a tripping hazard, it is unsightly to my wife > (well, me, too) so I'm considering getting bridge to use to wirelessly > connect the ReplayTV. I understand that I need a wireless router, or I > suppose a second bridge, to make this work. I have a Linksys WRT54G that > I just got from my sister (she upgraded to a Mac, and has Mac network > hardware to go with it). Can I connect the WRT54G to the switch and have > it go through the Netgear router? If so, when I set it up, do I treat > the WRT54G as a PC on the home network, and assign it an IP address from > the Netgear's set? Anything else that I'm missing? > > > I found a web site for setting up the WRT54G: > > http://www.columbia.edu/acis/networks/aptnet/linksys/index.html > > -- > Regards, > > Dick Steffens > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Dick, Flash with with DD WRT/Open WRT and you can put it in bridge mode so it'll just act as a range extender for the Netgear and you should be good to go. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Open SSH - Signing on at root
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Scott Howard wrote: > In using Open SSH to a linux box, I get the user directory. I can move > up to the root but cannot transfer files or work. How do I become the > root user. > > Scott Howard > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > this will give you a root shell su - or just su which won't be a login shell which is fine if you don't need all root's env vars and such or sudo $command ? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Fedora 12 Host Name
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: > HI All > > How do I change the host name on this box. > > Running Fedora 12. > > TIA > > Marvin > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > /bin/hostname is the magic on my RHEL box should be similar in Fedora I would assume. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Web Page using the same IP address
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 1:43 PM, wes wrote: > I think you would be much better served starting with google on this. There > is a plethora of documentation on this subject and if you're going to start > down this road, it is very important for you to start learning how to find > it. > > "apache multiple domains" (without quotes) would be an excellent starting > search. > > -wes > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Scott Howard wrote: > >> Can anyone help me understand how to put a pointer into an Apache Server >> to point to a particular web page while a second pointer would point to >> a second web page - each page having a different domain name. EasyDNS >> says that this can be done on the webserver. >> >> Thanks >> >> Scott Howard >> ___ >> PLUG mailing list >> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > echoing Wes : http://lmgtfy.com/?q=apache+virtual+hosting ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Selecting a Distribution (was: Solved: New Computer)
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Rich Shepard wrote: > >> This brings up a related question: what criteria do you (collectively, >> not just Marvin) use in selecting a distribution? Does the choice depend >> on the system being used personally compared with professionally (knowing, >> supporting, and recommending distributions?) > > Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this topic. Most everyone follows > Paul's line of thinking to a greater or lesser degree. > > I originally picked Red Hat (in 1996) because it was recommended by a > Powell's Tech Book Store salesman as locally more popular than was Slackware > at the time. I stuck with that from 4.0 through 7.3 when I switched to > Slackware for the stability, upgrade ease (which has deteriorated somewhat > in the last few releases), and being far enough back from the bleeding edge > that I didn't need to pay a lot of attention to it. > > On my wife's laptops I replaced Slackware with Xubuntu only because the > latter more easily recognized the ancient hardware and had everything > working. While I don't particularly like having to be familiar with two > distributions, it's working OK here. > > I'm still undecided on whether to install the 64-bit version of > Slackware-13.0 on my AMD Athlon X2 server/workstation. I don't know that it > buys me anything of value (to me) for such a small network, and it would > probably be different from the 32-bit version on my notebook. > > Rich > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > You can do side by side installs on Slackware Rich. I'll need to find the link I was reading on how to do it. As far as KDE goes .. never been a huge fan. I've been using XFCE for as long as I can remember and abandoned Gnome long before Pat killed it from inclusion in the project. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Selecting a Distribution (was: Solved: New Computer)
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 8:19 AM, wes wrote: > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: > >> On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Marvin Kosmal wrote: >> >> > Bingo... >> > I will try Fedora for the rest of the week >> >> This brings up a related question: what criteria do you (collectively, >> not >> just Marvin) use in selecting a distribution? Does the choice depend on the >> system being used personally compared with professionally (knowing, >> supporting, and recommending distributions?) >> >> Just curious, >> >> Rich >> > > I mostly choose based on how much I like the mascot or logo of a given > distro. By this criteria, FreeBSD wins. > > -wes > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > I started out on Slackware and haven't changed in 10+ years, old habits I guess. I have tried out Fedora, Ubunutu et al and always come back to Slackware. I agree with the points made by Paul though, those are all reasonable criteria. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] OpenSuSE 11.2 busted my wireless
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 2:35 PM, David Fleck wrote: > Here's a mystery - a wireless card works with OpenSuse 11.0; with OpenSuse > 11.2, it no longer works. Reverting to 11.0, and it works again. I don't > know enough about the details of wireless to know how to fix the problem, > assuming it can be fixed. > > The hardware: > > Router: > Linksys WRT54G, firmware v8.00.2 > > Wireless card: > Linksys WUSB11 V2.6 802.11b > > > The WORKING setup: > - > OpenSUSE 11.0 > > driver software: > at76_usb > (identifed in log messages as 'Atmel at76x USB Wireless LAN Driver 0.17') > > interfaces managed by NetworkManager and wpa_supplicant > > At boot, interface comes up and works: > > Feb 2 14:44:57 boxn ifup-wireless: wlan0 warning: using NO > encryption > Feb 2 14:44:57 boxn ifup-wireless: command 'iwconfig wlan0 nick boxn' > returned > Feb 2 14:44:57 boxn ifup-wireless: Error for wireless request "Set > Nickname" (8B1C) : > Feb 2 14:44:57 boxn ifup-wireless: SET failed on device wlan0 ; > Operation not supported. > Feb 2 14:44:57 boxn ifup: wlan0 > Feb 2 14:44:57 boxn ifup: IP address: 192.168.1.6/24 > Feb 2 14:44:57 boxn ifup: > > I get the warning about not being able to set the card nickname via > iwconfig, but the connection is fine. > > > The BROKEN setup: > > OS: > SuSE 11.2 release > > driver software: > at76c50x-usb > (identifed in log messages as 'Atmel at76x USB Wireless LAN Driver 0.17') > (yes, the same as before) > > interfaces managed by NetworkManager and wpa_supplicant > > At boot, the wireless card 'sees' the access point, but is never able to > connect to it (MAC addresses anonymized): > > Mar 6 15:07:22 boxn ifup: wlan0 name: WUSB11 V2.6 802.11b Adapter > Mar 6 15:07:22 boxn ifup-wireless: wlan0 warning: using NO > encryption > Mar 6 15:07:23 boxn kernel: [ 2821.100811] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link > is not ready > Mar 6 15:07:23 boxn kernel: [ 2821.108859] wlan0: direct probe to AP > 00:00:00:00:00:00 try 1 > Mar 6 15:07:23 boxn kernel: [ 2821.108924] wlan0: direct probe to AP > 00:01:02:03:04:05 try 1 > Mar 6 15:07:23 boxn ifup: wlan0 > Mar 6 15:07:23 boxn ifup: IP address: 192.168.1.3/24 > Mar 6 15:07:23 boxn ifup: > Mar 6 15:07:23 boxn kernel: [ 2821.308123] wlan0: direct probe to AP > 00:01:02:03:04:05 try 2 > Mar 6 15:07:23 boxn kernel: [ 2821.508091] wlan0: direct probe to AP > 00:01:02:03:04:05 try 3 > Mar 6 15:07:23 boxn kernel: [ 2821.708032] wlan0: direct probe to AP > 00:01:02:03:04:05 timed out > > at this point, if I run iwconfig, the 'Access Point:' comes back as 'Not > Associated'. > > If I tried to manually run 'iwconfig wlan0 ap 00:01:02:03:04:05', > /var/log/messages showed: > Mar 6 15:20:25 boxn ifup: wlan0 name: WUSB11 V2.6 802.11b Adapter > Mar 6 15:20:25 boxn avahi-daemon[7757]: Server startup complete. Host name > is boxn.local. Local service cookie is 1939683509. > Mar 6 15:20:25 boxn ifup-wireless: wlan0 warning: using NO > encryption > Mar 6 15:20:25 boxn ifup: wlan0 > Mar 6 15:20:25 boxn ifup: IP address: 192.168.1.3/24 > Mar 6 15:20:25 boxn ifup: > Mar 6 15:20:25 boxn kernel: [ 3603.741386] wlan0: authenticate with AP > 00:01:02:03:04:05 > Mar 6 15:20:26 boxn kernel: [ 3603.940027] wlan0: authenticate with AP > 00:01:02:03:04:05 > Mar 6 15:20:26 boxn kernel: [ 3604.140066] wlan0: authenticate with AP > 00:01:02:03:04:05 > Mar 6 15:20:26 boxn kernel: [ 3604.340076] wlan0: authentication with AP > 00:01:02:03:04:05 timed out > > ...and running 'iwconfig' still shows the access point as 'Not > Associated'. > > In both cases, encryption is turned off just to take that complication out > of the picture. > > 'iwlist wlan0 scanning' finds the access point, no problem, and none of > the other machines in the house have any trouble connecting. It's just > this machine, when 11.2 is installed. > > Any thoughts as to how I would further debug this problem? (I'm not sure I > will, at least not soon - the box in question is my wife's, and she's just > happy to have a working OpenSuse 11.0 installed.) > > -- > David Fleck > david.fl...@mchsi.com > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Anything in the WRT logs? Try running something like wireshark or tcpdump directly to see if what is causing the problem might be exposed a little lower in the stack. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] USB portable drive
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 7:40 PM, VY wrote: > thanks for all responsesIt looks like NTFS is not supported in MacOS X. > Will try Linux this weekend. > > Ok, sticking with FAT and file size under 4GB for now > > > > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:13 PM, m0gely wrote: > >> VY wrote: >> > Hi >> > >> > I have a 400 GB USB portable drive that I need to do READ/WRITE between >> > Linux, Win XP and MacOS X. >> > It is currently in FAT which has a 4GB file size limit. Is NTFS the >> right >> > format to go? I >> > seem to recall Linux can do full read/write to NTFS. Just want to see if >> > anyone else has similar experience >> > to share. >> >> Ubuntu on my machine since 7.04 has had r/w access to my NTFS volumes. I >> would go NTFS. If you have a spare thumb drive around and you don't want >> to format your 400GB you could test it with that. >> >> -- >> m0gely >> ___ >> PLUG mailing list >> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > There is a ext2/3 driver/software for Windows, not sure if it's something you could mount under Mac OSX but it's an option that might work well if it's supported. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Quick process for upgrading Debian to unstable
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:05 AM, glen e. p. ropella wrote: > Thus spake glen e. p. ropella circa 10-03-03 09:03 AM: >> Edit /etc/apt/sources.list to read: >> >> deb http://debian.osuosl.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free >> deb-src http://debian.osuosl.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free > > Actually, security probably doesn't have an unstable dist; so leave this > one out. > >> deb http://security.debian.org/ unstable/updates main contrib non-free > > > -- > glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://tempusdictum.com > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > Thanks Glen. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Quick process for upgrading Debian to unstable
I'm super new to Debian and I'm trying to track down a JVM issue (not related to the distro I don't think) and need to upgrade to unstable for testing. Can someone hit me with the clue stick or link me to the proper docs to do this? Thanks, Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] MSQL Cross-Table Query
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Tue, 2 Mar 2010, Patrick J. Timlick wrote: > >> select m.close, a.close, g.close, i.close from msft m, aapl a, goog g, >> intc i where date = "$date" and time = "$time" >> >> I don't think this works because date and time are ambiguous; they could be >> from any of the 4 tables. > > Yup. > > If the date and time are the same in all four tables you'd need a WHERE > clause that relates them all: > > WHERE a.date == g.date == i.date == m.date AND ... for the times. > > You can also do sub-selects from the tables. > > Rich > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > I was sure I was missing something like that regarding date.time. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] MSQL Cross-Table Query
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:20 AM, drew wymore wrote: > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:09 AM, D. Cooper Stevenson > wrote: >> Hello Everyone, >> >> I've worked through the documentation but haven't yet worked out a >> cross-table query in MYSQL yielding the correct results. My goal is to >> pull data from four tables that correspond to the date-time stamp of the >> first table. This will make sense as I describe what I am trying to pull >> from the database below. >> >> I have three tables entitled, "msft," "goog," "aapl," and "intc." Each >> of these tables are in the same database entitled, "minute." >> >> Here is an example of each (they're essentially the same): >> >> msft: >> >> date time open high low close volume >> | 2009-01-15 | 16:57:00 | 18.64 | 18.67 | 18.62 | 18.64 | 190394 | >> | 2009-01-15 | 16:58:00 | 18.63 | 18.63 | 18.61 | 18.62 | 60652 | >> | 2009-01-15 | 16:59:00 | 18.62 | 18.63 | 18.6 | 18.61 | 404419 | >> >> >> goog: >> >> date time open high low close volume >> | 2009-01-15 | 16:49:00 | 299.32 | 299.32 | 299.32 | 299.32 | 550 | >> | 2009-01-15 | 16:51:00 | 299.93 | 299.93 | 299.93 | 299.93 | 500 | >> | 2009-01-15 | 16:55:00 | 299.4 | 299.4 | 299.39 | 299.39 | 269 | >> >> >> aapl: >> >> date time open high low close volume >> | 2009-01-15 | 16:57:00 | 83.49 | 83.49 | 83.49 | 83.49 | 400 | >> | 2009-01-15 | 16:58:00 | 83.49 | 83.49 | 83.49 | 83.49 | 350 | >> | 2009-01-15 | 16:59:00 | 83.43 | 83.46 | 83.41 | 83.42 | 2290 | >> >> >> intc: >> >> date time open high low close volume >> | 2009-01-15 | 16:57:00 | 13.57 | 13.58 | 13.56 | 13.56 | 1400 | >> | 2009-01-15 | 16:58:00 | 13.57 | 13.58 | 13.57 | 13.58 | 7517 | >> | 2009-01-15 | 16:59:00 | 13.58 | 13.58 | 13.56 | 13.58 | 2950 | >> >> What I would like to do is this: for each date & time combination for >> table 'msft' include the close column for msft, goog, aapl, and intc. >> >> An example would look like this: >> date time close close close close >> | 2009-01-15 | 16:57:00 | 18.64 | 299.32 | 83.49 | 13.56 | >> >> Bonus points for doing this within a specific date range. >> >> Thanks in advance for any help you may be able to provide. >> >> >> Very Best, >> >> >> Cooper Stevenson >> -- >> ph: 541.971.0366 >> em: cooper at cooper dot stevenson dot name >> www: http://cooper.stevenson.name >> >> ___ >> PLUG mailing list >> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> > > something like > > select m.close, a.close, g.close, i.close from msft m, aapl a, goog g, > intc i where date = "$date" and time = "$time" > > I haven't tested this query, just off the top of my head. See if it > works and pulls out the date you're looking for and formats it > properly. > > Drew- > Doh I missed it, you'll want to add the date/time portion to the query so that you get the date/time along with the closing prices also. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] MSQL Cross-Table Query
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:09 AM, D. Cooper Stevenson wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I've worked through the documentation but haven't yet worked out a > cross-table query in MYSQL yielding the correct results. My goal is to > pull data from four tables that correspond to the date-time stamp of the > first table. This will make sense as I describe what I am trying to pull > from the database below. > > I have three tables entitled, "msft," "goog," "aapl," and "intc." Each > of these tables are in the same database entitled, "minute." > > Here is an example of each (they're essentially the same): > > msft: > > date time open high low close volume > | 2009-01-15 | 16:57:00 | 18.64 | 18.67 | 18.62 | 18.64 | 190394 | > | 2009-01-15 | 16:58:00 | 18.63 | 18.63 | 18.61 | 18.62 | 60652 | > | 2009-01-15 | 16:59:00 | 18.62 | 18.63 | 18.6 | 18.61 | 404419 | > > > goog: > > date time open high low close volume > | 2009-01-15 | 16:49:00 | 299.32 | 299.32 | 299.32 | 299.32 | 550 | > | 2009-01-15 | 16:51:00 | 299.93 | 299.93 | 299.93 | 299.93 | 500 | > | 2009-01-15 | 16:55:00 | 299.4 | 299.4 | 299.39 | 299.39 | 269 | > > > aapl: > > date time open high low close volume > | 2009-01-15 | 16:57:00 | 83.49 | 83.49 | 83.49 | 83.49 | 400 | > | 2009-01-15 | 16:58:00 | 83.49 | 83.49 | 83.49 | 83.49 | 350 | > | 2009-01-15 | 16:59:00 | 83.43 | 83.46 | 83.41 | 83.42 | 2290 | > > > intc: > > date time open high low close volume > | 2009-01-15 | 16:57:00 | 13.57 | 13.58 | 13.56 | 13.56 | 1400 | > | 2009-01-15 | 16:58:00 | 13.57 | 13.58 | 13.57 | 13.58 | 7517 | > | 2009-01-15 | 16:59:00 | 13.58 | 13.58 | 13.56 | 13.58 | 2950 | > > What I would like to do is this: for each date & time combination for > table 'msft' include the close column for msft, goog, aapl, and intc. > > An example would look like this: > date time close close close close > | 2009-01-15 | 16:57:00 | 18.64 | 299.32 | 83.49 | 13.56 | > > Bonus points for doing this within a specific date range. > > Thanks in advance for any help you may be able to provide. > > > Very Best, > > > Cooper Stevenson > -- > ph: 541.971.0366 > em: cooper at cooper dot stevenson dot name > www: http://cooper.stevenson.name > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > something like select m.close, a.close, g.close, i.close from msft m, aapl a, goog g, intc i where date = "$date" and time = "$time" I haven't tested this query, just off the top of my head. See if it works and pulls out the date you're looking for and formats it properly. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
