Re: [PLUG] Alpine issue after upgrade

2017-08-26 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 23 Aug 2017, Rich Shepard wrote:

> Just subscribed to the alpine-info mail list at UDub. Will see if anyone
> there has an idea how to fix the missing subject line in forwarded
> messages.

   Interesting: mailman is active and confirmed my subscription, but my
message to the list never returned (sent twice on successive days) and there
no other messages arrived. So the mail list is dead while the MLM remains.

   Perhaps stackexchange or usenet has alpine users who could offer ideas.

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Alpine issue after upgrade

2017-08-23 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 21 Aug 2017, Paul Heinlein wrote:

> I just built and installed Alpine 2.21 on my Mac. I'm unable to duplicate
> your problem with forwarding messages.

Paul,

   I tried to build 2.21 from slackware-current, but it needs updated
libraries not in 14.2. So, I'm limited to 2.20.

   Just subscribed to the alpine-info mail list at UDub. Will see if anyone
there has an idea how to fix the missing subject line in forwarded messages.

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Alpine issue after upgrade

2017-08-21 Thread Paul Heinlein

On Mon, 21 Aug 2017, Rich Shepard wrote:


On Mon, 21 Aug 2017, Paul Heinlein wrote:

My first suggestion -- and perhaps you've already tried it -- is to 
move your standard .pinerc out of the way and let alpine create a 
new one. Then add the minimum configuration bits you need to read 
your mail and see if the problem still exists.


Paul,

  Yesterday I did the equivalent by moving ~/.pinerc to a different 
name then copying /etc/pinerc to ~/.pinerc. No improvements.


  Just now I took your suggestion and there's still no improvement.

  It's strange that the new version strips off the subject line 
_only_ when I forward a message, not when I reply to one.


  I, too, have no reason to move from alpine so if you have thoughts 
on what to try next, or where I might find some docs on this. My web 
search finds hits on Outlook and a couple of similar issues with 
earlier alpine versions (on BSD), but nothing helpful.


I just built and installed Alpine 2.21 on my Mac. I'm unable to 
duplicate your problem with forwarding messages.


I'll try to get some time to build/install it on my Linux machines, 
but that's a task for non-work hours.


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Re: [PLUG] Alpine issue after upgrade

2017-08-21 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 21 Aug 2017, Paul Heinlein wrote:

> My first suggestion -- and perhaps you've already tried it -- is to move
> your standard .pinerc out of the way and let alpine create a new one. Then
> add the minimum configuration bits you need to read your mail and see if
> the problem still exists.

Paul,

   Yesterday I did the equivalent by moving ~/.pinerc to a different name
then copying /etc/pinerc to ~/.pinerc. No improvements.

   Just now I took your suggestion and there's still no improvement.

   It's strange that the new version strips off the subject line _only_ when
I forward a message, not when I reply to one.

   I, too, have no reason to move from alpine so if you have thoughts on what
to try next, or where I might find some docs on this. My web search finds
hits on Outlook and a couple of similar issues with earlier alpine versions
(on BSD), but nothing helpful.

Thanks,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Alpine issue after upgrade

2017-08-21 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Mon, 21 Aug 2017, Rich Shepard wrote:

>   This past weekend I upgraded my desktop server/workstation from
> Slackware-14.1 to -14.2. Now I'm slowing re-compiling non-distribution
> packages that need to be upgraded. However, ...
>
>   I have an issue with the new alpine-2.20 not seen in the 20 years I've
> uses pine/alpine as my MUA. When I forward a message (such as a spam report)
> the Subject: line is blank. I need to manually copy it from the original
> message to the forwarded one. I've no idea where to look for the cause.
>
>   Perhaps those of you, such as Paul, who use alpine will supply a
> suggestion on diagnosing this issue.

My first suggestion -- and perhaps you've already tried it -- is to 
move your standard .pinerc out of the way and let alpine create a new 
one. Then add the minimum configuration bits you need to read your 
mail and see if the problem still exists.

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[PLUG] Alpine issue after upgrade

2017-08-21 Thread Rich Shepard
   This past weekend I upgraded my desktop server/workstation from
Slackware-14.1 to -14.2. Now I'm slowing re-compiling non-distribution
packages that need to be upgraded. However, ...

   I have an issue with the new alpine-2.20 not seen in the 20 years I've
uses pine/alpine as my MUA. When I forward a message (such as a spam report)
the Subject: line is blank. I need to manually copy it from the original
message to the forwarded one. I've no idea where to look for the cause.

   Perhaps those of you, such as Paul, who use alpine will supply a
suggestion on diagnosing this issue.

Rich
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