Re: [PLUG] Alea jacta est*

[Denis Heidtmann]

He was likely a linguist.

On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 2:29 PM, John Jason Jordan  wrote:

> It should all be here in 4-5 days, plenty of time for assembling during
> the February 18 Clinic.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117726
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233859
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157754
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811990012
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817338010
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=1W8-0032-00043
>
> *Latin, commonly translated as 'the die is cast.' In fact, the English
> expression refers to 'alea' as 'die' (one of a pair of dice), but the
> Romans had no dice; the alea was a game piece that was thrown during
> play, but it wasn't actually what we think of today as a die. And
> while I'm at it, what idiot decided that the plural of die should be
> dice?
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Re: [PLUG] Alea jacta est*

[Matt McKenzie]

On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 2:29 PM, John Jason Jordan  wrote:

> It should all be here in 4-5 days, plenty of time for assembling during
> the February 18 Clinic.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117726
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233859
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157754
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811990012
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817338010
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=1W8-0032-00043
>
> *Latin, commonly translated as 'the die is cast.' In fact, the English
> expression refers to 'alea' as 'die' (one of a pair of dice), but the
> Romans had no dice; the alea was a game piece that was thrown during
> play, but it wasn't actually what we think of today as a die. And
> while I'm at it, what idiot decided that the plural of die should be
> dice?
> ___
>


Huzzah on the new beastie, looks like a pretty darn decent setup.

Looks like you are using the built in Intel HD graphics and not a discrete
GPU, otherwise you would probably be posting on the list about sticker
shock!
(grumble grumble crypto miners grumble grumble)



Also for a bit of Latin fun:

>From Buffy The Vampire Slayer:
Xander: "You can't just go...'librem incendire' and expect..." *woosh*
Giles: "Xander... don't speak Latin in front of the books"

https://youtu.be/WyPhX-geVfw






Matt M.
LinuxKnight
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Re: [PLUG] Alea jacta est*

[Michael Barnes]

On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 2:29 PM, John Jason Jordan  wrote:

>
> *Latin, commonly translated as 'the die is cast.' In fact, the English
> expression refers to 'alea' as 'die' (one of a pair of dice), but the
> Romans had no dice; the alea was a game piece that was thrown during
> play, but it wasn't actually what we think of today as a die. And
> while I'm at it, what idiot decided that the plural of die should be
> dice?
> ___
>

If you apply reverse logic, analogous to mice, shouldn't the singular be
'douse' instead of 'die'? English is such a fickle language.
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[PLUG] Alea jacta est*

[John Jason Jordan]

It should all be here in 4-5 days, plenty of time for assembling during
the February 18 Clinic.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117726

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233859

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157754

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811990012

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817338010

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=1W8-0032-00043

*Latin, commonly translated as 'the die is cast.' In fact, the English
expression refers to 'alea' as 'die' (one of a pair of dice), but the
Romans had no dice; the alea was a game piece that was thrown during
play, but it wasn't actually what we think of today as a die. And
while I'm at it, what idiot decided that the plural of die should be
dice?
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Re: [PLUG] bash; anacron; wmctrl question

[Denis Heidtmann]

Well, the prize goes to Wes--adding  before the wnctrl
-k commands worked.  Now when the script is launched by anacron the zenity
test command minimizes all open windows and presents its dialog window.
When that window closes, either due to a user response or time out for that
window, the windows are restored.  Great.  This means that a notification
to the user that something went wrong or that  some action is required will
not be hidden behind open windows.  Now that I am assured that the zenity
notification method works, I can get rid of the zenity test command at line
14.

In summary, I have a script which anacron runs every day.  That script
checks whether it is time to run a weekly backup.  If so, it instructs the
user to click "yes" and turn on the backup drive.   If "no" or timeout is
reached the script closes to be run the next day.  If "yes" the backup
script is launched.  If backup is successful the date file is updated and a
notification to turn off the drive is launched. If the backup is not
successful for any reason, various error notification windows are launched.

If I had put  the backup script among the weekly anacron scripts, there
would be no way to postpone the backup for one day.  Not running the backup
would postpone the backup for a full week.

Thanks to all who responded with ideas and suggestions.

-Denis

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Denis Heidtmann 
wrote:

> I have a script which runs daily via anacron.  I want the script to launch
> a zenity window to notify the user, so I issue the command wmctrl -k on
> before zenity and wmctrl - off after.  This  is supposed to minimize all
> open windows to ensure that the zenity window will be visible.  I  have a
> test script to show that it works.  Both scripts are owned by root, but
> editable by me.  I  have run the test script from a command  line login
> using sudo, as well as from a Gnome terminal.  The test script behaves as
> intended--the desktop is cleared of all open windows.   I inserted a test
> zenity window at the beginning of the real script to verity that when
> launched by anacron it would behave the same way.  It does not!  It does
> not minimize open windows, but the zenity window does appear on top of the
> open windows.
>
> What is different about the anacron launch?  I have been monkeying with
> this thing for quite a while.  I tried wmctrl -R but that did not behave as
> I had hoped.  wmctrl -k does what I want except when anacron is doing the
> launching.
>
> Ideas?
>
> -Denis
>
> Test script:
>
> #!/bin/bash
> # test to get zenity to work when script is not called from an X window
> # change to a non-X login (^ alt F2), call this w/sudo, then go back to X
> (^ alt F7)
> # to see if a zenity window shows up.
> # feb 5 2018 the above worked--all open windows minimized.
>
>
> Notification () {
> # pass title, text of notice, and timeout as 3 parameters
> TITLE=$1; MSG=$2; TIMOUT=$3
> wmctrl -k on
> sudo -u household zenity --question --title="$TITLE" --text="$MSG"
> --timeout="$TIMOUT"
> RETRNCODE=$?
> wmctrl -k off
> return $RETRNCODE  # return codes: 0 = YES, 1 = cancel, 5 = timeout
> }
>
> sleep 30
>
> export DISPLAY=:0
> # test of launch of zenity
> Notification "Test of zenity (backup_checksh)" "This should minimize all
> open windows." 20
> # remove when satisfied that launch works.
>
> Top of real script:
>
> #!/bin/bash
>
> Notification () {
> # pass title, text of notice, and timeout as 3 parameters
> TITLE=$1; MSG=$2; TIMOUT=$3
> wmctrl -k on
> sudo -u household zenity --question --title="$TITLE" --text="$MSG"
> --timeout="$TIMOUT"
> RETRNCODE=$?
> wmctrl -k off
> return $RETRNCODE  # return codes: 0 = YES, 1 = cancel, 5 = timeout
> }
> export DISPLAY=:0
> # test of launch of zenity
> Notification "Test of zenity (backup_checksh)" "This should minimize all
> open windows." 5
> # remove when satisfied that launch works.
> MAX_TIME=$((7 * 24 * 3600))
>
>
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Re: [PLUG] Parts shopping for new desktop

[Rich Shepard]

On Tue, 6 Feb 2018, John Jason Jordan wrote:


That may be a true prediction, but at the moment a SATA Express port plus
the device to mount in the front panel is the only way I can find to get
USB 3.1 Gen. 2 in the front of a desktop computer. I can find plenty of
motherboards that offer ports accessible in the back of the computer, but
I don't want to have to crawl around on the floor behind the computer to
plug in a portable drive.


John,

  Perhaps a more parsimonious solution for you is to buy either a long USB
cable or a USB hub supporting the speed you want, plug that into a socket on
the rear of the motherboard and extend it to the front where it's easily
reached.

Rich
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