[PLUG] DNS Bind9 Slaves?

2018-05-03 Thread Russell Senior

Hi,

Personal Telco Project is looking to diversify its DNS server presence.
We used to have multiple servers in different racks, and we are down to
one now.  I am looking for people who might be willing to host a DNS
slave for us.  We are willing to reciprocate.  We are looking for
a stable static IP address.  Not super heavy load.  Will receive
occasional zone pushes.

Let me know, thanks!


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[PLUG] Mail log reporting differences

2018-05-03 Thread Rich Shepard

  This is not a problem needing a solution, rather a situation which I would
like to understand. Even though I've looked at the two scripts (logwatch is
a perl script, pflogsumm a bash script) I don't see why they report
different results from the same /var/log/maillog, even though the run 1
second apart.

  This is from yesterday's logwatch:


From logwa...@appl-ecosys.com Thu May  3 03:10:05 2018

Date: Thu,  3 May 2018 03:10:04 -0700 (PDT)

  201   Accepted62.23%
  122   Rejected37.77%
    --
  323   Total  100.00%

and this from yesterday's pflogsumm:

Date: Thu,  3 May 2018 03:10:05 -0700 (PDT)

Grand Totals

messages

177   received
166   delivered

  I've seen this discrepancy for years and have always wondered why. So I'm
asking if any of you system/network professionsls has some possible
explanations.

Just curious,

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Re: [PLUG] Linux centralized authentication

2018-05-03 Thread Ken Stephens
What ever happened to the Lake Oswego Linux School System.  Wasn't that a
Server/Workstation distribution?

https://www.linuxschools.com/forum/index-main.php


Ken

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 8:25 PM, Tyrell Jentink  wrote:

> I'm using FreeIPA here at home; As a product, it's really just a bunch of
> scripts and a web interface for LDAP+Kerberos+Certificate management+Samba;
> It aims to be a complete identity management system, a product designed to
> compete with (Or at the very least, perform an analogous set of tasks to)
> ActiveDirectory. It is completely open source, developed by Red Hat, for
> Fedora, and I use it on CentOS, but it is available for a number of other
> distros.
>
> (Full disclosure: I do happen to use ActiveDirectory to store my user
> accounts, and FreeIPA authenticates through an AD Interforest Trust, but
> that's far from a requirement, and it probably causes me more grief than
> many admins would tolerate)
>
> As for reading, I learned everything I know from their documentation:
> https://www.freeipa.org/page/Documentation
>
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2018, 20:01 Thomas Groman 
> wrote:
>
> > Do you have any book or other resource recommendations for setting these
> > up? I already do sysadmin work, just never done centralized auth before.
> >
> >
> > On 05/02/2018 07:53 PM, Tomas Kuchta wrote:
> > > The easiest is to pick LDAP or NIS, both work very well on Linux. With
> or
> > > without Kerberos for local small setup.
> > >
> > > NIS with NFS for file sharing would be probably the simplest setup, but
> > you
> > > will eventually wish you had LDAP for integration with various other
> > > services.
> > >
> > > LDAP + Kerberos + NFS is probably the most common and extensible
> > solution.
> > > You will absolutely need local DNS and NTP to get it going, but it is
> > well
> > > integrated extensible solution.
> > >
> > > Another option would be to uses Samba - it combines LDAP + Kerberos, so
> > it
> > > has less moving parts and can accept Windows hosts without much
> headache,
> > > compared to LDAP and Kerberos.
> > >
> > > For both solution, you might need some enterprise admin to help setting
> > it
> > > up. If well and simply setup, it is not difficult to maintain and
> manage.
> > > IMHO
> > >
> > > Tomas
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 2, 2018, 5:36 PM Smith, Cathy 
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> There used to be dns, ldap, kerberos, nis.  These are open source
> > >> protocols and not restricted to Microsoft.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Cathy L. Smith
> > >> IT Engineer
> > >>
> > >> Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
> > >> Operated by Battelle for the
> > >> U.S. Department of Energy
> > >>
> > >> Phone: 509.375.2687
> > >> Fax:   509.375.4399
> > >> Email: cathy.sm...@pnnl.gov
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org [mailto:plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org] On
> > >> Behalf Of Thomas Groman
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 5:16 PM
> > >> To: plug@pdxlinux.org
> > >> Subject: [PLUG] Linux centralized authentication
> > >>
> > >> Has anyone ever made a 100% UNIX/BSD/Linux network with centralized
> > >> authentication? Using native protocols not some sort of strange
> > Microsoft
> > >> AD mesh thing.
> > >> I wanted to build a hacker-space for a school and since it would be
> > >> starting from scratch there's no reason to get locked in to a
> Microsoft
> > >> product from the start. Also the Microsoft's protocols are not open
> > source
> > >> and hard to debug. They never really work well with UNIX like
> operating
> > >> systems requiring id/group mapping and such.
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Re: [PLUG] Linux centralized authentication

2018-05-03 Thread Tyrell Jentink
OK, first off... A google search for 'site:linuxschools.com oswego' and for
'karoshi server "Oswego"' brought up nothing... So my crude guess is that "
What happened" was that they had nothing to do with it? On the other hand,
maybe they were successful in ridding any reference from the internet?

Second off... The product that is promoted at linuxschools.com is called
Karoshi Server and Karoshi Client. It also seems to be actively maintained,
with the latest github commit 18 hours ago. So... Nothing "happened" to it?

Third... LOSD uses Blackboard for their CMS, grade books, and school
management... And they use Google Apps for Education for email and
colaberation... and most (All?) of the staff uses PCs... While its fully
within the realm of possibility that they could use an open source
authentication system, they don't seem too afraid of using expensive
proprietary providers in general, and I really don't see the IT director
sacrificing Group Policy on Windows workstations...

My pessimism and criticism of simple words aside, it looks promising. A
shortcoming of FreeIPA when compared to Active Directory is the lack of
Group Policy; The limitation really comes from the fact that Linux clients
have never been asked to follow a centralized policy, so there isn't a
standard. FreeIPA approximates some of it with Sudo lists and Host Based
Access Control, but a real solution would require a REAL client. Maybe
Karoshi provides that? But its not on the feature list, so maybe not...

On Thu, May 3, 2018, 06:49 Ken Stephens  wrote:

> What ever happened to the Lake Oswego Linux School System.  Wasn't that a
> Server/Workstation distribution?
>
> https://www.linuxschools.com/forum/index-main.php
>
>
> Ken
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 8:25 PM, Tyrell Jentink  wrote:
>
> > I'm using FreeIPA here at home; As a product, it's really just a bunch of
> > scripts and a web interface for LDAP+Kerberos+Certificate
> management+Samba;
> > It aims to be a complete identity management system, a product designed
> to
> > compete with (Or at the very least, perform an analogous set of tasks to)
> > ActiveDirectory. It is completely open source, developed by Red Hat, for
> > Fedora, and I use it on CentOS, but it is available for a number of other
> > distros.
> >
> > (Full disclosure: I do happen to use ActiveDirectory to store my user
> > accounts, and FreeIPA authenticates through an AD Interforest Trust, but
> > that's far from a requirement, and it probably causes me more grief than
> > many admins would tolerate)
> >
> > As for reading, I learned everything I know from their documentation:
> > https://www.freeipa.org/page/Documentation
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 2, 2018, 20:01 Thomas Groman 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Do you have any book or other resource recommendations for setting
> these
> > > up? I already do sysadmin work, just never done centralized auth
> before.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 05/02/2018 07:53 PM, Tomas Kuchta wrote:
> > > > The easiest is to pick LDAP or NIS, both work very well on Linux.
> With
> > or
> > > > without Kerberos for local small setup.
> > > >
> > > > NIS with NFS for file sharing would be probably the simplest setup,
> but
> > > you
> > > > will eventually wish you had LDAP for integration with various other
> > > > services.
> > > >
> > > > LDAP + Kerberos + NFS is probably the most common and extensible
> > > solution.
> > > > You will absolutely need local DNS and NTP to get it going, but it is
> > > well
> > > > integrated extensible solution.
> > > >
> > > > Another option would be to uses Samba - it combines LDAP + Kerberos,
> so
> > > it
> > > > has less moving parts and can accept Windows hosts without much
> > headache,
> > > > compared to LDAP and Kerberos.
> > > >
> > > > For both solution, you might need some enterprise admin to help
> setting
> > > it
> > > > up. If well and simply setup, it is not difficult to maintain and
> > manage.
> > > > IMHO
> > > >
> > > > Tomas
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 2, 2018, 5:36 PM Smith, Cathy 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> There used to be dns, ldap, kerberos, nis.  These are open source
> > > >> protocols and not restricted to Microsoft.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Cathy L. Smith
> > > >> IT Engineer
> > > >>
> > > >> Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
> > > >> Operated by Battelle for the
> > > >> U.S. Department of Energy
> > > >>
> > > >> Phone: 509.375.2687
> > > >> Fax:   509.375.4399
> > > >> Email: cathy.sm...@pnnl.gov
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -Original Message-
> > > >> From: plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org [mailto:plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org]
> On
> > > >> Behalf Of Thomas Groman
> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 5:16 PM
> > > >> To: plug@pdxlinux.org
> > > >> Subject: [PLUG] Linux centralized authentication
> > > >>
> > > >> Has anyone ever made a 100% UNIX/BSD/Linux network with centralized
> > > >> authentication? Using native protocols not some sort of strange
> > > Microsoft
> > > >> AD mesh thing.
> > > >> I w

Re: [PLUG] DNS Bind9 Slaves?

2018-05-03 Thread Michael Rasmussen

On 2018-05-03 00:17, Russell Senior wrote:

Hi,

Personal Telco Project is looking to diversify its DNS server presence.
We used to have multiple servers in different racks, and we are down to
one now.  I am looking for people who might be willing to host a DNS
slave for us.  We are willing to reciprocate.  We are looking for
a stable static IP address.  Not super heavy load.  Will receive
occasional zone pushes.

Let me know, thanks!


At one time there was a PLUG slave/secondary DNS exchange.  A vestige of 
that lives on as James Loowit and I do this function for our collection 
of domains.


So, I'm available to do this for PTP.

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Re: [PLUG] Linux centralized authentication

2018-05-03 Thread Rich Shepard

On Thu, 3 May 2018, Ken Stephens wrote:


What ever happened to the Lake Oswego Linux School System.  Wasn't that a
Server/Workstation distribution?


Ken,

  Are you thinking of the Riverdale(?) District where we held the clinic at
the elementary and high schools?

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[PLUG] sudo trouble...

2018-05-03 Thread michael

pi@controller:/etc/sudoers.d $ cat www-data-to-pi
www-data ALL=(pi) NOPASSWD: /home/pi/startup.sh, /home/pi/kill.sh, \
/home/pi/tcp_client, /home/pi/udp_client
pi@controller:/etc/sudoers.d $

I suspect that data files can't be parsed by Apache because it isn't 
firing up as

a different user, pi.

Look at the following excerpt from /var/log/apache2/error.log:

[Thu May 03 09:37:25.182045 2018] [:error] [pid 488] [client 
192.168.1.16:46462] debugging: read_tps_file 
(c:/trusses/stephen_trusses/splice plates.tps), referer: 
http://192.168.1.103:7000/main.php
[Thu May 03 09:37:25.182292 2018] [:error] [pid 488] [client 
192.168.1.16:46462] PHP Warning:  stat(): stat failed for 
c:/trusses/stephen_trusses/splice plates.tps in /var/www/php/utils.php 
on line 18, referer: http://192.168.1.103:7000/main.php


Do I need to add /home/pi/controller to www-data-to-pi?

How about the php script startup.php that Apache calls to startup.sh and 
kill.sh from?

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Re: [PLUG] Linux centralized authentication

2018-05-03 Thread Smith, Cathy
Just google for tutorials on how to configure the various protocols.  For 
example, DNS is really easy to set up.  I got a number of hits looking for a 
tutorial to set up DNS.

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=wivrWp71OYewjwPFsZL4Cg&q=howto+tutorial+configure+dns+server+in+linux&oq=howto+tutorial+configure+dns+ser&gs_l=psy-ab.3.1.33i22i29i30k1l10.12033.20875.0.24063.32.32.0.0.0.0.542.4276.0j25j4-1j1.27.00...1.1.64.psy-ab..5.27.4238...0j0i131k1j0i10k1j0i13k1j0i13i30k1j0i22i30k1.0.GRWi_-V6IfI



-- 
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IT Engineer

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U.S. Department of Energy

Phone: 509.375.2687
Fax:       509.375.4399
Email: cathy.sm...@pnnl.gov



-Original Message-
From: plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org [mailto:plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org] On Behalf Of 
Thomas Groman
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 8:00 PM
To: plug@pdxlinux.org
Subject: Re: [PLUG] Linux centralized authentication

Do you have any book or other resource recommendations for setting these up? I 
already do sysadmin work, just never done centralized auth before.


On 05/02/2018 07:53 PM, Tomas Kuchta wrote:
> The easiest is to pick LDAP or NIS, both work very well on Linux. With 
> or without Kerberos for local small setup.
>
> NIS with NFS for file sharing would be probably the simplest setup, 
> but you will eventually wish you had LDAP for integration with various 
> other services.
>
> LDAP + Kerberos + NFS is probably the most common and extensible solution.
> You will absolutely need local DNS and NTP to get it going, but it is 
> well integrated extensible solution.
>
> Another option would be to uses Samba - it combines LDAP + Kerberos, 
> so it has less moving parts and can accept Windows hosts without much 
> headache, compared to LDAP and Kerberos.
>
> For both solution, you might need some enterprise admin to help 
> setting it up. If well and simply setup, it is not difficult to maintain and 
> manage.
> IMHO
>
> Tomas
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2018, 5:36 PM Smith, Cathy  wrote:
>
>> There used to be dns, ldap, kerberos, nis.  These are open source 
>> protocols and not restricted to Microsoft.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cathy L. Smith
>> IT Engineer
>>
>> Pacific Northwest National Laboratory Operated by Battelle for the 
>> U.S. Department of Energy
>>
>> Phone: 509.375.2687
>> Fax:   509.375.4399
>> Email: cathy.sm...@pnnl.gov
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org [mailto:plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Thomas Groman
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 5:16 PM
>> To: plug@pdxlinux.org
>> Subject: [PLUG] Linux centralized authentication
>>
>> Has anyone ever made a 100% UNIX/BSD/Linux network with centralized 
>> authentication? Using native protocols not some sort of strange 
>> Microsoft AD mesh thing.
>> I wanted to build a hacker-space for a school and since it would be 
>> starting from scratch there's no reason to get locked in to a 
>> Microsoft product from the start. Also the Microsoft's protocols are 
>> not open source and hard to debug. They never really work well with 
>> UNIX like operating systems requiring id/group mapping and such.
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Re: [PLUG] Linux centralized authentication

2018-05-03 Thread Andrew Denton
At work we use FreeIPA for all our linux servers, it works really well.
It's nice to have a web interface for the LDAP/Kerberos/DNS/Certificate/nfs
automount stuff, and the client side setup automation (ipa-client-install
or the new realmd) is handy.

Like you our humans actually have AD accounts that come in via trust. In
that case we still use FreeIPA to manage their shells, sudoers rules and
ssh keys. I've never had a problem with that trust breaking, my only
problem has been some weirdness with Kerberized NFS home directories not
always mounting properly.

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 8:25 PM Tyrell Jentink  wrote:

> I'm using FreeIPA here at home; As a product, it's really just a bunch of
> scripts and a web interface for LDAP+Kerberos+Certificate management+Samba;
> It aims to be a complete identity management system, a product designed to
> compete with (Or at the very least, perform an analogous set of tasks to)
> ActiveDirectory. It is completely open source, developed by Red Hat, for
> Fedora, and I use it on CentOS, but it is available for a number of other
> distros.
>
> (Full disclosure: I do happen to use ActiveDirectory to store my user
> accounts, and FreeIPA authenticates through an AD Interforest Trust, but
> that's far from a requirement, and it probably causes me more grief than
> many admins would tolerate)
>
> As for reading, I learned everything I know from their documentation:
> https://www.freeipa.org/page/Documentation
>
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2018, 20:01 Thomas Groman 
> wrote:
>
> > Do you have any book or other resource recommendations for setting these
> > up? I already do sysadmin work, just never done centralized auth before.
> >
> >
> > On 05/02/2018 07:53 PM, Tomas Kuchta wrote:
> > > The easiest is to pick LDAP or NIS, both work very well on Linux. With
> or
> > > without Kerberos for local small setup.
> > >
> > > NIS with NFS for file sharing would be probably the simplest setup, but
> > you
> > > will eventually wish you had LDAP for integration with various other
> > > services.
> > >
> > > LDAP + Kerberos + NFS is probably the most common and extensible
> > solution.
> > > You will absolutely need local DNS and NTP to get it going, but it is
> > well
> > > integrated extensible solution.
> > >
> > > Another option would be to uses Samba - it combines LDAP + Kerberos, so
> > it
> > > has less moving parts and can accept Windows hosts without much
> headache,
> > > compared to LDAP and Kerberos.
> > >
> > > For both solution, you might need some enterprise admin to help setting
> > it
> > > up. If well and simply setup, it is not difficult to maintain and
> manage.
> > > IMHO
> > >
> > > Tomas
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 2, 2018, 5:36 PM Smith, Cathy 
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> There used to be dns, ldap, kerberos, nis.  These are open source
> > >> protocols and not restricted to Microsoft.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Cathy L. Smith
> > >> IT Engineer
> > >>
> > >> Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
> > >> Operated by Battelle for the
> > >> U.S. Department of Energy
> > >>
> > >> Phone: 509.375.2687
> > >> Fax:   509.375.4399
> > >> Email: cathy.sm...@pnnl.gov
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org [mailto:plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org] On
> > >> Behalf Of Thomas Groman
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 5:16 PM
> > >> To: plug@pdxlinux.org
> > >> Subject: [PLUG] Linux centralized authentication
> > >>
> > >> Has anyone ever made a 100% UNIX/BSD/Linux network with centralized
> > >> authentication? Using native protocols not some sort of strange
> > Microsoft
> > >> AD mesh thing.
> > >> I wanted to build a hacker-space for a school and since it would be
> > >> starting from scratch there's no reason to get locked in to a
> Microsoft
> > >> product from the start. Also the Microsoft's protocols are not open
> > source
> > >> and hard to debug. They never really work well with UNIX like
> operating
> > >> systems requiring id/group mapping and such.
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Re: [PLUG] Mail log reporting differences

2018-05-03 Thread Jim Garrison
On 5/3/2018 6:05 AM, Rich Shepard wrote:
>   This is not a problem needing a solution, rather a situation which I
> would
> like to understand. Even though I've looked at the two scripts (logwatch is
> a perl script, pflogsumm a bash script) I don't see why they report
> different results from the same /var/log/maillog, even though the run 1
> second apart.

Maybe they don't look at the same 24-hour period?  Do they run at
exactly 00:00?  I believe logwatch looks at the timespan since
it last ran and pflogsumm (-yesterday) uses 00:00-24:00.  Just an
educated guess.
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Re: [PLUG] Mail log reporting differences

2018-05-03 Thread Rich Shepard

On Thu, 3 May 2018, Jim Garrison wrote:


Maybe they don't look at the same 24-hour period? Do they run at exactly
00:00? I believe logwatch looks at the timespan since it last ran and
pflogsumm (-yesterday) uses 00:00-24:00. Just an educated guess.


Hi Jim,

  I left the timestamp on both results. Here, /etc/cron.daily runs at 03:10
am. The logwatch script is the first to run and pflogsumm is the second to
run. This morning, logwatch ran at 03:10:04 and pflogsumm at 03:10:05 so
they're both looking at /var/log/maillog. The mail logs rotate with all
other log rotations at 04:40 each day.

  So both scripts are looking at the same maillog contents. And, if a
message did arrive in the 1 second between the two scripts running then the
latter would show a larger number of received and rejected messages and not
the fewer that it always does.

Regards,

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[PLUG] RPiCamera

2018-05-03 Thread michael
Is there a text config file that can I can use ansible on so that the 
resolution is 2592x1944 and not lower?

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[PLUG] Raspicam narrow field of view...

2018-05-03 Thread michael
I have an 8.0 mp fixed focus camera on a Raspberry Pi 3 where raspistill 
is taking narrow pictures.  I'm wondering if I can fan out more and how 
I would do that?
Seems like the pictures are getting cut off on the sides, I think it has 
something to do with 4:3 verses 16:9.

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Re: [PLUG] Mail log reporting differences

2018-05-03 Thread wes
On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 6:05 AM, Rich Shepard 
wrote:

>   This is from yesterday's logwatch:
>
> From logwa...@appl-ecosys.com Thu May  3 03:10:05 2018
> Date: Thu,  3 May 2018 03:10:04 -0700 (PDT)
>
>   201   Accepted62.23%
>   122   Rejected37.77%
>     --
>   323   Total  100.00%
>
> and this from yesterday's pflogsumm:
>
> Date: Thu,  3 May 2018 03:10:05 -0700 (PDT)
>
> Grand Totals
> 
> messages
>
> 177   received
> 166   delivered
>
>   I've seen this discrepancy for years and have always wondered why. So I'm
> asking if any of you system/network professionsls has some possible
> explanations.
>

Without knowing what each script does, it's hard to guess what they might
be doing differently. The first thing that sticks out to me, is that the
elements being reported are different. Logwatch reports "Accepted" and
"Rejected" emails, while pflogsumm repots "Received" and "Delivered"
emails. These could very well be 4 different metrics. While a "Rejected"
email is more or less self-explanatory, I am not clear on what constitutes
an "Accepted" message. Likewise for received vs delivered; are these
inbound vs outbound? Are these all inbound, with the 11 emails which were
received but not delivered having something other than "delivered"
happening to them? So many questions

The man pages for both of these utilities are very vague on what
"yesterday" means to them. Logwatch in particular appears highly
customizable, so without knowing your site's particular configuration, it
will be more difficult to guess at what's going on. Either way, I don't
really get the impression that a time difference is responsible for the
different data being displayed.

If this were my system, I would be playing with the source logfile in
question myself to try to reconstruct which elements it's counting as which
category of data.

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[PLUG] PLUG TONIGHT: UnPLUG, maybe more!

2018-05-03 Thread Michael Dexter


Portland Linux/Unix Group General Meeting Announcement

Who: YOU!
What: UnPLUG: Open discussion but I might bring my favorite books
Where: PSU, 1930 SW 4th Ave. Room FAB 86-01 (Lower Level)
When: Thursday, May 3rd, 2018 at 7pm
Why: The pursuit of technology freedom
Stream: http://pdxlinux.org/live

I had an out-of-town speaker from the OSI lined up but they have to 
leave Portland earlier than expected... leaving us with an UnPLUG meeting.


I may bring my favorite books and do have some talks ready if you REALLY 
want to go that route.


Also, WOW, it seems the PLUG mailing list is terrible with GMail 
accounts.  I have been wondering for years why I only see *some* of the 
messages I post.


Calagator Page: http://calagator.org/events/1250473674

Many will head to the Lucky Lab at 1945 NW Quimby St. after the meeting.

Rideshares to the Lucky Lab available

PLUG is open to everyone and does not tolerate abusive behavior on its 
mailing lists or at its meetings.


PLUG Page with information about all PLUG events: http://pdxlinux.org/
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[PLUG] PLUG TONIGHT: UnPLUG, maybe more!

2018-05-03 Thread Michael Dexter


Resend! I finally have an email address from which I might see my posts!

For more information on GMail vs. Mailing lists:

https://dmarc.org/wiki/FAQ#I_operate_a_mailing_list_and_I_want_to_interoperate_with_DMARC.2C_what_should_I_do.3F


Portland Linux/Unix Group General Meeting Announcement

Who: YOU!
What: UnPLUG: Open discussion but I might bring my favorite books
Where: PSU, 1930 SW 4th Ave. Room FAB 86-01 (Lower Level)
When: Thursday, May 3rd, 2018 at 7pm
Why: The pursuit of technology freedom
Stream: http://pdxlinux.org/live

I had an out-of-town speaker from the OSI lined up but they have to 
leave Portland earlier than expected... leaving us with an UnPLUG meeting.


I may bring my favorite books and do have some talks ready if you REALLY 
want to go that route.


Also, WOW, it seems the PLUG mailing list is terrible with GMail 
accounts.  I have been wondering for years why I only see *some* of the 
messages I post.


Calagator Page: http://calagator.org/events/1250473674

Many will head to the Lucky Lab at 1945 NW Quimby St. after the meeting.

Rideshares to the Lucky Lab available

PLUG is open to everyone and does not tolerate abusive behavior on its 
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PLUG Page with information about all PLUG events: http://pdxlinux.org/
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Re: [PLUG] PLUG TONIGHT: UnPLUG, maybe more!

2018-05-03 Thread Rich Shepard

On Thu, 3 May 2018, Michael Dexter wrote:


For more information on GMail vs. Mailing lists:
https://dmarc.org/wiki/FAQ#I_operate_a_mailing_list_and_I_want_to_interoperate_with_DMARC.2C_what_should_I_do.3F


Michael,

  A couple of other mail lists to which I subscribe have had serious issues
with DMARC. I don't recall how the list managers resolved the issue.

  Too bad everyone doesn't use opendkim.

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] streaming tomorrow's meeting ?

2018-05-03 Thread J. Hart
I take it that the streaming will be one-way.  Will anyone be monitoring 
IRC so remote locations might communicate ?  I'm going to try and catch 
the stream tonight.  It will be 10pm my local time tonight if I 
understand correctly.


On 05/03/2018 12:47 AM, Michael Dexter wrote:


Well, probably, but my speaker cancelled.

It will be free-form short of my offer of a talk or two. You've had 
plenty of me. Maybe we do lightning talks...




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Re: [PLUG] streaming tomorrow's meeting ?

2018-05-03 Thread Michael Dexter

On 5/3/18 4:11 PM, J. Hart wrote:
I take it that the streaming will be one-way.  Will anyone be monitoring 
IRC so remote locations might communicate ?  I'm going to try and catch 
the stream tonight.  It will be 10pm my local time tonight if I 
understand correctly.


Well... I try to monitor IRC but who knows if I'll be in front tonight.

I will ask that others monitor it too. They did great with Torvalds.

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Re: [PLUG] streaming tomorrow's meeting ?

2018-05-03 Thread Michael Dexter

On 5/3/18 4:27 PM, Michael Dexter wrote:

Well... I try to monitor IRC but who knows if I'll be in front tonight.


Out of curiosity, which of the two channels do you prefer?

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Re: [PLUG] streaming tomorrow's meeting ?

2018-05-03 Thread J. Hart
I will monitor both.  I'm setting up now, and will be watching the 
stream if I can get it.


On 05/03/2018 08:18 PM, Michael Dexter wrote:

On 5/3/18 4:27 PM, Michael Dexter wrote:

Well... I try to monitor IRC but who knows if I'll be in front tonight.


Out of curiosity, which of the two channels do you prefer?

Michael
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Re: [PLUG] streaming tomorrow's meeting ?

2018-05-03 Thread J. Hart

Monitoring on both irc channels.  No stream noted yet.

On 05/03/2018 08:18 PM, Michael Dexter wrote:

On 5/3/18 4:27 PM, Michael Dexter wrote:

Well... I try to monitor IRC but who knows if I'll be in front tonight.


Out of curiosity, which of the two channels do you prefer?

Michael
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Re: [PLUG] streaming tomorrow's meeting ?

2018-05-03 Thread Russell Senior
which irc channels?

On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 6:50 PM, J. Hart  wrote:

> Monitoring on both irc channels.  No stream noted yet.
>
> On 05/03/2018 08:18 PM, Michael Dexter wrote:
>
>> On 5/3/18 4:27 PM, Michael Dexter wrote:
>>
>>> Well... I try to monitor IRC but who knows if I'll be in front tonight.
>>>
>>
>> Out of curiosity, which of the two channels do you prefer?
>>
>> Michael
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Re: [PLUG] streaming tomorrow's meeting ?

2018-05-03 Thread wes
#orlug and #pdxlinux

-wes

On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 7:03 PM, Russell Senior 
wrote:

> which irc channels?
>
> On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 6:50 PM, J. Hart  wrote:
>
> > Monitoring on both irc channels.  No stream noted yet.
> >
> > On 05/03/2018 08:18 PM, Michael Dexter wrote:
> >
> >> On 5/3/18 4:27 PM, Michael Dexter wrote:
> >>
> >>> Well... I try to monitor IRC but who knows if I'll be in front tonight.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Out of curiosity, which of the two channels do you prefer?
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[PLUG] Topic heads up: Keyboards!

2018-05-03 Thread Michael Dexter


Hello,

Ian just happened to bring a box of keyboard switches and a 25-switch 
sampler to the meeting and CLEARLY we can fill a meeting with the topic 
to computer keyboards (and their predecessors).


Start thinking about what you can contribute and this should be a 
hands-on (much pun intended) event.


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