Re: [PLUG] Some how my system boots into text mode

2018-05-30 Thread Ken Stephens
Johnathan, Rich, Thomas,

Thanks for the replies.  I added an isolated "5" to the grub.cfg.
Rebooted.  No effect.
I think I will just login and issue startx.

Enough is enough.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Regards to all,
Ken

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 6:17 PM, Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> On Wed, 30 May 2018, Tomas Kuchta wrote:
>
> While it is always nice to know why and understand things properly - time
>> has value too.
>>
>
> Wouldn't it be faster to reinstall the box and call it a day?
>>
>
>   Or, boot into runlevel 3 and run startx.
>
>
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Re: [PLUG] Some how my system boots into text mode

2018-05-30 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 30 May 2018, Tomas Kuchta wrote:


While it is always nice to know why and understand things properly - time
has value too.



Wouldn't it be faster to reinstall the box and call it a day?


  Or, boot into runlevel 3 and run startx.

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Re: [PLUG] Some how my system boots into text mode

2018-05-30 Thread Tomas Kuchta
While it is always nice to know why and understand things properly - time
has value too.

Wouldn't it be faster to reinstall the box and call it a day?

If you back up /etc and /usr/lib/...systemd - diff might point to the cause
later.

-T



On Wed, May 30, 2018, 5:01 PM Ken Stephens 
wrote:

> Rich, Ben, Johnathan,
>
> Rich,
>
>  No active inittab.  Inittab is not used on a systemd system.  It did have
> a note on how to set "runlevels".
>
> #systemctl get-default
> graphical.target
>
> Which is what I want to get.  But, it does not get me there.
>
> Ben,
>
> Reinstalled gdm.  Rebooted.  Still comes up in a text screen.
>
> That is all I am going to do today.  Breaking off for a glass of wine and
> the 5:00 news.  Need the wine to listen to the news.
>
> Regards to all,
> Ken
>
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 3:11 PM, Johnathan Mantey 
> wrote:
>
> > Ken,
> > What happens when you 'sudo /sbin/init 5' in order to get to graphical
> > multi-user mode?
> >
> > Ben,
> > I disagree about GRUB.  The line that loads the kernel can have a run
> level
> > value assigned.  I have a unit in the lab that I boot to multi-user
> command
> > line by adding a literal 3 to the kernel.  If the kernel is not passed a
> > value then graphical multi-user (aka run level 5) is the default.
> >
> > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Ben Koenig 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Ken,
> > >
> > > First of all, GRUB doesn't have any say in "booting a graphical login
> > > mode". The most grub can do is set the framebuffer and KMS settings,
> and
> > > even then X can override and set its own display settings.
> > > - Leave GRUB alone. You run the risk of breaking your boot for no
> reason.
> > >
> > > Second. The Multi User run level is where Display Managers are
> launched.
> > Of
> > > course systemd has no doubt managed to obfuscate that simple fact.
> > > - MultiUser mode is exactly what you want.
> > >
> > > Third. You are able to launch X. This means X is working, and you have
> a
> > > log file located at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
> > > - Of course I'm assuming the fedora team is smart enough to do things
> > > properly.
> > >
> > >
> > > Last and most importantly. You have remnants of GDM on your system.
> > GDM
> > > will launch X to present the login screen, which is probably why it has
> > its
> > > own Xorg.0.log file.
> > > GDM is also a daemon process launched by your init system. In this case
> > > systemd.
> > >
> > >
> > > There are 2 things you need to do.
> > > - You need to make a Display Manager is fully installed (sometimes they
> > get
> > > broken into multiple packages...)
> > > - Make sure your display manager (GDM, KDM, whatever..) has been added
> > as a
> > > step in your init system.
> > >
> > > Slackware does this with inittab, runlevel 4 launches a script which
> > > launches KDM or XDM.
> > > Ubuntu had the "sudo service gdm start" command. This launched GDM if
> it
> > > wasn't running already.
> > > Fedora probably has whatever systemd stupidness the kids are promoting
> > > these days. It reads a service config file and launches the daemon
> > > described in that file. In your case this should be GDM.
> > >
> > >
> > > Maybe you can just do a complete reinstall of GDM from the repository.
> > > Maybe this will give systemd the kick it needs...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:02 PM, Rich Shepard <
> rshep...@appl-ecosys.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 30 May 2018, Ken Stephens wrote:
> > > >
> > > > No entry about run levels in grub.cfg.  Still searching and
> scratching
> > > >> head.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Ken,
> > > >
> > > >   Does Fedora have a file similar to Slackware's /etc/inittab? This
> > > > contains:
> > > >
> > > > inittab   This file describes how the INIT process should set up
> > > >   the system in a certain run-level.
> > > >
> > > > # These are the default runlevels in Slackware:
> > > > #   0 = halt
> > > > #   1 = single user mode
> > > > #   2 = unused (but configured the same as runlevel 3)
> > > > #   3 = multiuser mode (default Slackware runlevel)
> > > > #   4 = X11 with KDM/GDM/XDM (session managers)
> > > > #   5 = unused (but configured the same as runlevel 3)
> > > > #   6 = reboot
> > > >
> > > > # Default runlevel. (Do not set to 0 or 6)
> > > > id:3:initdefault:
> > > >
> > > > HTH,
> > > >
> > > > Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Some how my system boots into text mode

2018-05-30 Thread Ken Stephens
Rich, Ben, Johnathan,

Rich,

 No active inittab.  Inittab is not used on a systemd system.  It did have
a note on how to set "runlevels".

#systemctl get-default
graphical.target

Which is what I want to get.  But, it does not get me there.

Ben,

Reinstalled gdm.  Rebooted.  Still comes up in a text screen.

That is all I am going to do today.  Breaking off for a glass of wine and
the 5:00 news.  Need the wine to listen to the news.

Regards to all,
Ken


On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 3:11 PM, Johnathan Mantey 
wrote:

> Ken,
> What happens when you 'sudo /sbin/init 5' in order to get to graphical
> multi-user mode?
>
> Ben,
> I disagree about GRUB.  The line that loads the kernel can have a run level
> value assigned.  I have a unit in the lab that I boot to multi-user command
> line by adding a literal 3 to the kernel.  If the kernel is not passed a
> value then graphical multi-user (aka run level 5) is the default.
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Ben Koenig  wrote:
>
> > Ken,
> >
> > First of all, GRUB doesn't have any say in "booting a graphical login
> > mode". The most grub can do is set the framebuffer and KMS settings, and
> > even then X can override and set its own display settings.
> > - Leave GRUB alone. You run the risk of breaking your boot for no reason.
> >
> > Second. The Multi User run level is where Display Managers are launched.
> Of
> > course systemd has no doubt managed to obfuscate that simple fact.
> > - MultiUser mode is exactly what you want.
> >
> > Third. You are able to launch X. This means X is working, and you have a
> > log file located at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
> > - Of course I'm assuming the fedora team is smart enough to do things
> > properly.
> >
> >
> > Last and most importantly. You have remnants of GDM on your system.
> GDM
> > will launch X to present the login screen, which is probably why it has
> its
> > own Xorg.0.log file.
> > GDM is also a daemon process launched by your init system. In this case
> > systemd.
> >
> >
> > There are 2 things you need to do.
> > - You need to make a Display Manager is fully installed (sometimes they
> get
> > broken into multiple packages...)
> > - Make sure your display manager (GDM, KDM, whatever..) has been added
> as a
> > step in your init system.
> >
> > Slackware does this with inittab, runlevel 4 launches a script which
> > launches KDM or XDM.
> > Ubuntu had the "sudo service gdm start" command. This launched GDM if it
> > wasn't running already.
> > Fedora probably has whatever systemd stupidness the kids are promoting
> > these days. It reads a service config file and launches the daemon
> > described in that file. In your case this should be GDM.
> >
> >
> > Maybe you can just do a complete reinstall of GDM from the repository.
> > Maybe this will give systemd the kick it needs...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:02 PM, Rich Shepard  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 30 May 2018, Ken Stephens wrote:
> > >
> > > No entry about run levels in grub.cfg.  Still searching and scratching
> > >> head.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Ken,
> > >
> > >   Does Fedora have a file similar to Slackware's /etc/inittab? This
> > > contains:
> > >
> > > inittab   This file describes how the INIT process should set up
> > >   the system in a certain run-level.
> > >
> > > # These are the default runlevels in Slackware:
> > > #   0 = halt
> > > #   1 = single user mode
> > > #   2 = unused (but configured the same as runlevel 3)
> > > #   3 = multiuser mode (default Slackware runlevel)
> > > #   4 = X11 with KDM/GDM/XDM (session managers)
> > > #   5 = unused (but configured the same as runlevel 3)
> > > #   6 = reboot
> > >
> > > # Default runlevel. (Do not set to 0 or 6)
> > > id:3:initdefault:
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > Rich
> > >
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Re: [PLUG] Some how my system boots into text mode

2018-05-30 Thread Johnathan Mantey
Ken,
What happens when you 'sudo /sbin/init 5' in order to get to graphical
multi-user mode?

Ben,
I disagree about GRUB.  The line that loads the kernel can have a run level
value assigned.  I have a unit in the lab that I boot to multi-user command
line by adding a literal 3 to the kernel.  If the kernel is not passed a
value then graphical multi-user (aka run level 5) is the default.

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Ben Koenig  wrote:

> Ken,
>
> First of all, GRUB doesn't have any say in "booting a graphical login
> mode". The most grub can do is set the framebuffer and KMS settings, and
> even then X can override and set its own display settings.
> - Leave GRUB alone. You run the risk of breaking your boot for no reason.
>
> Second. The Multi User run level is where Display Managers are launched. Of
> course systemd has no doubt managed to obfuscate that simple fact.
> - MultiUser mode is exactly what you want.
>
> Third. You are able to launch X. This means X is working, and you have a
> log file located at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
> - Of course I'm assuming the fedora team is smart enough to do things
> properly.
>
>
> Last and most importantly. You have remnants of GDM on your system. GDM
> will launch X to present the login screen, which is probably why it has its
> own Xorg.0.log file.
> GDM is also a daemon process launched by your init system. In this case
> systemd.
>
>
> There are 2 things you need to do.
> - You need to make a Display Manager is fully installed (sometimes they get
> broken into multiple packages...)
> - Make sure your display manager (GDM, KDM, whatever..) has been added as a
> step in your init system.
>
> Slackware does this with inittab, runlevel 4 launches a script which
> launches KDM or XDM.
> Ubuntu had the "sudo service gdm start" command. This launched GDM if it
> wasn't running already.
> Fedora probably has whatever systemd stupidness the kids are promoting
> these days. It reads a service config file and launches the daemon
> described in that file. In your case this should be GDM.
>
>
> Maybe you can just do a complete reinstall of GDM from the repository.
> Maybe this will give systemd the kick it needs...
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:02 PM, Rich Shepard 
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 30 May 2018, Ken Stephens wrote:
> >
> > No entry about run levels in grub.cfg.  Still searching and scratching
> >> head.
> >>
> >
> > Ken,
> >
> >   Does Fedora have a file similar to Slackware's /etc/inittab? This
> > contains:
> >
> > inittab   This file describes how the INIT process should set up
> >   the system in a certain run-level.
> >
> > # These are the default runlevels in Slackware:
> > #   0 = halt
> > #   1 = single user mode
> > #   2 = unused (but configured the same as runlevel 3)
> > #   3 = multiuser mode (default Slackware runlevel)
> > #   4 = X11 with KDM/GDM/XDM (session managers)
> > #   5 = unused (but configured the same as runlevel 3)
> > #   6 = reboot
> >
> > # Default runlevel. (Do not set to 0 or 6)
> > id:3:initdefault:
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Rich
> >
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Re: [PLUG] Experiences with USB "null modem" cables.

2018-05-30 Thread Russell Senior
The one I have implements a USB-net interface, so it's effectively an
ethernet cable.  Most modern distributions just work.  The one you link is
a USB-to-serial-to USB.  That is not ideal for transferring files. If you
are unclear on what the "link" cable supports, you can always just buy two
usb-ethernet adapters and an ethernet cable to go in the middle.  Maybe
more adpatable than a "link cable".

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Richard Owlett 
wrote:

> ARGHHH. New it was going to be that kind of day ;/
> Any problems &/or comments?
>
>
>
> On 05/30/2018 01:53 PM, Russell Senior wrote:
>
>> Yes
>>
>> On Wed, May 30, 2018, 10:54 Richard Owlett  wrote:
>>
>> I've come across a "USB Null Modem Cable" by Future Technology Devices
>>> International [http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/Cables/USBtoUSB.htm].
>>>
>>> It would seem an appropriate solution for some file sharing between two
>>> Linux machines which have only USB 2.0 in common.
>>>
>>> Has anyone used this or a similar product.
>>> TIA
>>>
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Re: [PLUG] Some how my system boots into text mode

2018-05-30 Thread Ben Koenig
Ken,

First of all, GRUB doesn't have any say in "booting a graphical login
mode". The most grub can do is set the framebuffer and KMS settings, and
even then X can override and set its own display settings.
- Leave GRUB alone. You run the risk of breaking your boot for no reason.

Second. The Multi User run level is where Display Managers are launched. Of
course systemd has no doubt managed to obfuscate that simple fact.
- MultiUser mode is exactly what you want.

Third. You are able to launch X. This means X is working, and you have a
log file located at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
- Of course I'm assuming the fedora team is smart enough to do things
properly.


Last and most importantly. You have remnants of GDM on your system. GDM
will launch X to present the login screen, which is probably why it has its
own Xorg.0.log file.
GDM is also a daemon process launched by your init system. In this case
systemd.


There are 2 things you need to do.
- You need to make a Display Manager is fully installed (sometimes they get
broken into multiple packages...)
- Make sure your display manager (GDM, KDM, whatever..) has been added as a
step in your init system.

Slackware does this with inittab, runlevel 4 launches a script which
launches KDM or XDM.
Ubuntu had the "sudo service gdm start" command. This launched GDM if it
wasn't running already.
Fedora probably has whatever systemd stupidness the kids are promoting
these days. It reads a service config file and launches the daemon
described in that file. In your case this should be GDM.


Maybe you can just do a complete reinstall of GDM from the repository.
Maybe this will give systemd the kick it needs...




On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:02 PM, Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> On Wed, 30 May 2018, Ken Stephens wrote:
>
> No entry about run levels in grub.cfg.  Still searching and scratching
>> head.
>>
>
> Ken,
>
>   Does Fedora have a file similar to Slackware's /etc/inittab? This
> contains:
>
> inittab   This file describes how the INIT process should set up
>   the system in a certain run-level.
>
> # These are the default runlevels in Slackware:
> #   0 = halt
> #   1 = single user mode
> #   2 = unused (but configured the same as runlevel 3)
> #   3 = multiuser mode (default Slackware runlevel)
> #   4 = X11 with KDM/GDM/XDM (session managers)
> #   5 = unused (but configured the same as runlevel 3)
> #   6 = reboot
>
> # Default runlevel. (Do not set to 0 or 6)
> id:3:initdefault:
>
> HTH,
>
> Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Experiences with USB "null modem" cables.

2018-05-30 Thread Richard Owlett

ARGHHH. New it was going to be that kind of day ;/
Any problems &/or comments?


On 05/30/2018 01:53 PM, Russell Senior wrote:

Yes

On Wed, May 30, 2018, 10:54 Richard Owlett  wrote:


I've come across a "USB Null Modem Cable" by Future Technology Devices
International [http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/Cables/USBtoUSB.htm].

It would seem an appropriate solution for some file sharing between two
Linux machines which have only USB 2.0 in common.

Has anyone used this or a similar product.
TIA


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Re: [PLUG] Some how my system boots into text mode

2018-05-30 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 30 May 2018, Ken Stephens wrote:


No entry about run levels in grub.cfg.  Still searching and scratching head.


Ken,

  Does Fedora have a file similar to Slackware's /etc/inittab? This
contains:

inittab   This file describes how the INIT process should set up
  the system in a certain run-level.

# These are the default runlevels in Slackware:
#   0 = halt
#   1 = single user mode
#   2 = unused (but configured the same as runlevel 3)
#   3 = multiuser mode (default Slackware runlevel)
#   4 = X11 with KDM/GDM/XDM (session managers)
#   5 = unused (but configured the same as runlevel 3)
#   6 = reboot

# Default runlevel. (Do not set to 0 or 6)
id:3:initdefault:

HTH,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Experiences with USB "null modem" cables.

2018-05-30 Thread Russell Senior
Yes

On Wed, May 30, 2018, 10:54 Richard Owlett  wrote:

> I've come across a "USB Null Modem Cable" by Future Technology Devices
> International [http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/Cables/USBtoUSB.htm].
>
> It would seem an appropriate solution for some file sharing between two
> Linux machines which have only USB 2.0 in common.
>
> Has anyone used this or a similar product.
> TIA
>
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Re: [PLUG] Some how my system boots into text mode

2018-05-30 Thread Ken Stephens
Tomas,

Thanks for replying, but that was the first thing I tried this morning.
Did it again.  Still no joy.

Ken

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Tomas Kuchta  wrote:

> And reboot 
>
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2018, 11:20 AM Tomas Kuchta 
> wrote:
>
> > Try: systemctl set-default graphical.target
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 30, 2018, 11:16 AM Ken Stephens 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Johnathan,
> >>
> >> No entry about run levels in grub.cfg.  Still searching and scratching
> >> head.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Ken
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Johnathan Mantey 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Are you sure you didn't change GRUB to enter run level 3?  Check your
> >> > grub.conf file (or whatever it is called), and check for a solo "3"
> and
> >> > change it to a "5", which is the run level for UI.
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 11:01 AM, Ken Stephens <
> >> kennethgsteph...@gmail.com
> >> > >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Ali,
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks, but there is no /var/log/Xorg.  I can start X using startx
> >> after
> >> > > logging in.
> >> > >
> >> > > Found one in /var/lib/gdm/.local/share/Xorg.0.log.  No errors.
> Owned
> >> by
> >> > > gdm.
> >> > >
> >> > > Ken
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:49 AM, Ali Corbin 
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Ken Stephens <
> >> > > kennethgsteph...@gmail.com
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > I am puzzled.  Ages ago I did something to stop my Fedora 26
> >> system
> >> > > from
> >> > > > > booting into graphical login mode.  I wish I could remember or
> >> > identify
> >> > > > > what I did, but age and time have intervened.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > #systemctl status default.target
> >> > > > > ● graphical.target - Graphical Interface
> >> > > > >Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/graphical.target;
> >> > enabled;
> >> > > > > vendor preset: disabled)
> >> > > > >Active: active since Wed 2018-05-30 09:40:11 PDT; 30min ago
> >> > > > >  Docs: man:systemd.special(7)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > May 30 09:40:11 neptune systemd[1]: Reached target Graphical
> >> > Interface.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > But the system presents a text login.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > #systemctl status multi-user.target
> >> > > > > ● multi-user.target - Multi-User System
> >> > > > >Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target;
> >> > static;
> >> > > > > vendor preset: disabled)
> >> > > > >Active: active since Wed 2018-05-30 09:40:11 PDT; 36min ago
> >> > > > >  Docs: man:systemd.special(7)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > May 30 09:40:11 neptune systemd[1]: Reached target Multi-User
> >> System.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Before I disable multi-user I want your opinions on whether this
> >> is
> >> > the
> >> > > > way
> >> > > > > to regain my graphical login.  The graphical login has a
> >> dependency
> >> > on
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > multi-user target.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Regards to all,
> >> > > > > Ken
> >> > > > > ___
> >> > > > > PLUG mailing list
> >> > > > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> >> > > > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I'd start out by looking at /var/log/Xorg*, to see if X didn't
> come
> >> up
> >> > > > because of an error.
> >> > > > ___
> >> > > > PLUG mailing list
> >> > > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> >> > > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> >> > > >
> >> > > ___
> >> > > PLUG mailing list
> >> > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> >> > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> >> > >
> >> > ___
> >> > PLUG mailing list
> >> > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> >> > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> >> >
> >> ___
> >> PLUG mailing list
> >> PLUG@pdxlinux.org
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> >>
> >
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Re: [PLUG] Some how my system boots into text mode

2018-05-30 Thread Tomas Kuchta
And reboot 


On Wed, May 30, 2018, 11:20 AM Tomas Kuchta 
wrote:

> Try: systemctl set-default graphical.target
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2018, 11:16 AM Ken Stephens 
> wrote:
>
>> Johnathan,
>>
>> No entry about run levels in grub.cfg.  Still searching and scratching
>> head.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ken
>>
>> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Johnathan Mantey 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Are you sure you didn't change GRUB to enter run level 3?  Check your
>> > grub.conf file (or whatever it is called), and check for a solo "3" and
>> > change it to a "5", which is the run level for UI.
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 11:01 AM, Ken Stephens <
>> kennethgsteph...@gmail.com
>> > >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Ali,
>> > >
>> > > Thanks, but there is no /var/log/Xorg.  I can start X using startx
>> after
>> > > logging in.
>> > >
>> > > Found one in /var/lib/gdm/.local/share/Xorg.0.log.  No errors.  Owned
>> by
>> > > gdm.
>> > >
>> > > Ken
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:49 AM, Ali Corbin 
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Ken Stephens <
>> > > kennethgsteph...@gmail.com
>> > > > >
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > I am puzzled.  Ages ago I did something to stop my Fedora 26
>> system
>> > > from
>> > > > > booting into graphical login mode.  I wish I could remember or
>> > identify
>> > > > > what I did, but age and time have intervened.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > #systemctl status default.target
>> > > > > ● graphical.target - Graphical Interface
>> > > > >Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/graphical.target;
>> > enabled;
>> > > > > vendor preset: disabled)
>> > > > >Active: active since Wed 2018-05-30 09:40:11 PDT; 30min ago
>> > > > >  Docs: man:systemd.special(7)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > May 30 09:40:11 neptune systemd[1]: Reached target Graphical
>> > Interface.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > But the system presents a text login.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > #systemctl status multi-user.target
>> > > > > ● multi-user.target - Multi-User System
>> > > > >Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target;
>> > static;
>> > > > > vendor preset: disabled)
>> > > > >Active: active since Wed 2018-05-30 09:40:11 PDT; 36min ago
>> > > > >  Docs: man:systemd.special(7)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > May 30 09:40:11 neptune systemd[1]: Reached target Multi-User
>> System.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Before I disable multi-user I want your opinions on whether this
>> is
>> > the
>> > > > way
>> > > > > to regain my graphical login.  The graphical login has a
>> dependency
>> > on
>> > > > the
>> > > > > multi-user target.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Regards to all,
>> > > > > Ken
>> > > > > ___
>> > > > > PLUG mailing list
>> > > > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
>> > > > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > I'd start out by looking at /var/log/Xorg*, to see if X didn't come
>> up
>> > > > because of an error.
>> > > > ___
>> > > > PLUG mailing list
>> > > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
>> > > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
>> > > >
>> > > ___
>> > > PLUG mailing list
>> > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
>> > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
>> > >
>> > ___
>> > PLUG mailing list
>> > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
>> > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
>> >
>> ___
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>> PLUG@pdxlinux.org
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>>
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Re: [PLUG] Some how my system boots into text mode

2018-05-30 Thread Tomas Kuchta
Try: systemctl set-default graphical.target



On Wed, May 30, 2018, 11:16 AM Ken Stephens 
wrote:

> Johnathan,
>
> No entry about run levels in grub.cfg.  Still searching and scratching
> head.
>
> Thanks,
> Ken
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Johnathan Mantey 
> wrote:
>
> > Are you sure you didn't change GRUB to enter run level 3?  Check your
> > grub.conf file (or whatever it is called), and check for a solo "3" and
> > change it to a "5", which is the run level for UI.
> >
> > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 11:01 AM, Ken Stephens <
> kennethgsteph...@gmail.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Ali,
> > >
> > > Thanks, but there is no /var/log/Xorg.  I can start X using startx
> after
> > > logging in.
> > >
> > > Found one in /var/lib/gdm/.local/share/Xorg.0.log.  No errors.  Owned
> by
> > > gdm.
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:49 AM, Ali Corbin 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Ken Stephens <
> > > kennethgsteph...@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I am puzzled.  Ages ago I did something to stop my Fedora 26 system
> > > from
> > > > > booting into graphical login mode.  I wish I could remember or
> > identify
> > > > > what I did, but age and time have intervened.
> > > > >
> > > > > #systemctl status default.target
> > > > > ● graphical.target - Graphical Interface
> > > > >Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/graphical.target;
> > enabled;
> > > > > vendor preset: disabled)
> > > > >Active: active since Wed 2018-05-30 09:40:11 PDT; 30min ago
> > > > >  Docs: man:systemd.special(7)
> > > > >
> > > > > May 30 09:40:11 neptune systemd[1]: Reached target Graphical
> > Interface.
> > > > >
> > > > > But the system presents a text login.
> > > > >
> > > > > #systemctl status multi-user.target
> > > > > ● multi-user.target - Multi-User System
> > > > >Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target;
> > static;
> > > > > vendor preset: disabled)
> > > > >Active: active since Wed 2018-05-30 09:40:11 PDT; 36min ago
> > > > >  Docs: man:systemd.special(7)
> > > > >
> > > > > May 30 09:40:11 neptune systemd[1]: Reached target Multi-User
> System.
> > > > >
> > > > > Before I disable multi-user I want your opinions on whether this is
> > the
> > > > way
> > > > > to regain my graphical login.  The graphical login has a dependency
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > multi-user target.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards to all,
> > > > > Ken
> > > > > ___
> > > > > PLUG mailing list
> > > > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > > > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'd start out by looking at /var/log/Xorg*, to see if X didn't come
> up
> > > > because of an error.
> > > > ___
> > > > PLUG mailing list
> > > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> > > >
> > > ___
> > > PLUG mailing list
> > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> > >
> > ___
> > PLUG mailing list
> > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> >
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Re: [PLUG] Some how my system boots into text mode

2018-05-30 Thread Ken Stephens
Johnathan,

No entry about run levels in grub.cfg.  Still searching and scratching head.

Thanks,
Ken

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Johnathan Mantey 
wrote:

> Are you sure you didn't change GRUB to enter run level 3?  Check your
> grub.conf file (or whatever it is called), and check for a solo "3" and
> change it to a "5", which is the run level for UI.
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 11:01 AM, Ken Stephens  >
> wrote:
>
> > Ali,
> >
> > Thanks, but there is no /var/log/Xorg.  I can start X using startx after
> > logging in.
> >
> > Found one in /var/lib/gdm/.local/share/Xorg.0.log.  No errors.  Owned by
> > gdm.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:49 AM, Ali Corbin 
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Ken Stephens <
> > kennethgsteph...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am puzzled.  Ages ago I did something to stop my Fedora 26 system
> > from
> > > > booting into graphical login mode.  I wish I could remember or
> identify
> > > > what I did, but age and time have intervened.
> > > >
> > > > #systemctl status default.target
> > > > ● graphical.target - Graphical Interface
> > > >Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/graphical.target;
> enabled;
> > > > vendor preset: disabled)
> > > >Active: active since Wed 2018-05-30 09:40:11 PDT; 30min ago
> > > >  Docs: man:systemd.special(7)
> > > >
> > > > May 30 09:40:11 neptune systemd[1]: Reached target Graphical
> Interface.
> > > >
> > > > But the system presents a text login.
> > > >
> > > > #systemctl status multi-user.target
> > > > ● multi-user.target - Multi-User System
> > > >Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target;
> static;
> > > > vendor preset: disabled)
> > > >Active: active since Wed 2018-05-30 09:40:11 PDT; 36min ago
> > > >  Docs: man:systemd.special(7)
> > > >
> > > > May 30 09:40:11 neptune systemd[1]: Reached target Multi-User System.
> > > >
> > > > Before I disable multi-user I want your opinions on whether this is
> the
> > > way
> > > > to regain my graphical login.  The graphical login has a dependency
> on
> > > the
> > > > multi-user target.
> > > >
> > > > Regards to all,
> > > > Ken
> > > > ___
> > > > PLUG mailing list
> > > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> > > >
> > >
> > > I'd start out by looking at /var/log/Xorg*, to see if X didn't come up
> > > because of an error.
> > > ___
> > > PLUG mailing list
> > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> > >
> > ___
> > PLUG mailing list
> > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> >
> ___
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> PLUG@pdxlinux.org
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Re: [PLUG] Some how my system boots into text mode

2018-05-30 Thread Johnathan Mantey
Are you sure you didn't change GRUB to enter run level 3?  Check your
grub.conf file (or whatever it is called), and check for a solo "3" and
change it to a "5", which is the run level for UI.

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 11:01 AM, Ken Stephens 
wrote:

> Ali,
>
> Thanks, but there is no /var/log/Xorg.  I can start X using startx after
> logging in.
>
> Found one in /var/lib/gdm/.local/share/Xorg.0.log.  No errors.  Owned by
> gdm.
>
> Ken
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:49 AM, Ali Corbin  wrote:
>
> > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Ken Stephens <
> kennethgsteph...@gmail.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I am puzzled.  Ages ago I did something to stop my Fedora 26 system
> from
> > > booting into graphical login mode.  I wish I could remember or identify
> > > what I did, but age and time have intervened.
> > >
> > > #systemctl status default.target
> > > ● graphical.target - Graphical Interface
> > >Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/graphical.target; enabled;
> > > vendor preset: disabled)
> > >Active: active since Wed 2018-05-30 09:40:11 PDT; 30min ago
> > >  Docs: man:systemd.special(7)
> > >
> > > May 30 09:40:11 neptune systemd[1]: Reached target Graphical Interface.
> > >
> > > But the system presents a text login.
> > >
> > > #systemctl status multi-user.target
> > > ● multi-user.target - Multi-User System
> > >Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target; static;
> > > vendor preset: disabled)
> > >Active: active since Wed 2018-05-30 09:40:11 PDT; 36min ago
> > >  Docs: man:systemd.special(7)
> > >
> > > May 30 09:40:11 neptune systemd[1]: Reached target Multi-User System.
> > >
> > > Before I disable multi-user I want your opinions on whether this is the
> > way
> > > to regain my graphical login.  The graphical login has a dependency on
> > the
> > > multi-user target.
> > >
> > > Regards to all,
> > > Ken
> > > ___
> > > PLUG mailing list
> > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> > >
> >
> > I'd start out by looking at /var/log/Xorg*, to see if X didn't come up
> > because of an error.
> > ___
> > PLUG mailing list
> > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> >
> ___
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Re: [PLUG] Some how my system boots into text mode

2018-05-30 Thread Ali Corbin
On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Ken Stephens 
wrote:

> I am puzzled.  Ages ago I did something to stop my Fedora 26 system from
> booting into graphical login mode.  I wish I could remember or identify
> what I did, but age and time have intervened.
>
> #systemctl status default.target
> ● graphical.target - Graphical Interface
>Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/graphical.target; enabled;
> vendor preset: disabled)
>Active: active since Wed 2018-05-30 09:40:11 PDT; 30min ago
>  Docs: man:systemd.special(7)
>
> May 30 09:40:11 neptune systemd[1]: Reached target Graphical Interface.
>
> But the system presents a text login.
>
> #systemctl status multi-user.target
> ● multi-user.target - Multi-User System
>Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target; static;
> vendor preset: disabled)
>Active: active since Wed 2018-05-30 09:40:11 PDT; 36min ago
>  Docs: man:systemd.special(7)
>
> May 30 09:40:11 neptune systemd[1]: Reached target Multi-User System.
>
> Before I disable multi-user I want your opinions on whether this is the way
> to regain my graphical login.  The graphical login has a dependency on the
> multi-user target.
>
> Regards to all,
> Ken
> ___
> PLUG mailing list
> PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
>

I'd start out by looking at /var/log/Xorg*, to see if X didn't come up
because of an error.
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[PLUG] Some how my system boots into text mode

2018-05-30 Thread Ken Stephens
I am puzzled.  Ages ago I did something to stop my Fedora 26 system from
booting into graphical login mode.  I wish I could remember or identify
what I did, but age and time have intervened.

#systemctl status default.target
● graphical.target - Graphical Interface
   Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/graphical.target; enabled;
vendor preset: disabled)
   Active: active since Wed 2018-05-30 09:40:11 PDT; 30min ago
 Docs: man:systemd.special(7)

May 30 09:40:11 neptune systemd[1]: Reached target Graphical Interface.

But the system presents a text login.

#systemctl status multi-user.target
● multi-user.target - Multi-User System
   Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target; static;
vendor preset: disabled)
   Active: active since Wed 2018-05-30 09:40:11 PDT; 36min ago
 Docs: man:systemd.special(7)

May 30 09:40:11 neptune systemd[1]: Reached target Multi-User System.

Before I disable multi-user I want your opinions on whether this is the way
to regain my graphical login.  The graphical login has a dependency on the
multi-user target.

Regards to all,
Ken
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