Re: [PLUG] Cloning a mirror raid

2018-06-01 Thread Tomas Kuchta
dd from the raid Dev to /dev/sd?


On Fri, Jun 1, 2018, 6:10 AM Scott Howard  wrote:

> I need to clone a mirror raid on a linux box to one drive. Any software
> suggestions other than clonezilla.
>
>
>
> Scott Howard
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[PLUG-ANNOUNCE] PLUG June Meeting Announcement: YaCy Distributed/P2P Search Engine

2018-06-01 Thread Michael Dexter



Portland Linux/Unix Group General Meeting Announcement

Who: Daniel Hedlund
What: YaCy Distributed/P2P Search Engine
Where: PSU, 1930 SW 4th Ave. Room FAB 86-01 (Lower Level)
When: Thursday, June 7th, 2018 at 7pm
Why: The pursuit of technology freedom
Stream: http://pdxlinux.org/live

YaCy (https://yacy.net/) is an open-source distributed/peer-to-peer 
search engine, where no central server is in control of the search index 
or ranking of results.  It can be used to search the Internet through 
peer-to-peer nodes, or set up to search your own intranet.  Daniel will 
provide an introductory overview of the architecture walk through 
setting it up for several use cases.  He will also give an overview of 
what is coming with YaCy Grid, a second-generation implementation of YaCy.


Calagator Page: http://calagator.org/events/1250473845

Many will head to the Lucky Lab at 1945 NW Quimby St. after the meeting.

Rideshares to the Lucky Lab available

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[PLUG] PLUG June Meeting Announcement: YaCy Distributed/P2P Search Engine

2018-06-01 Thread Michael Dexter



Portland Linux/Unix Group General Meeting Announcement

Who: Daniel Hedlund
What: YaCy Distributed/P2P Search Engine
Where: PSU, 1930 SW 4th Ave. Room FAB 86-01 (Lower Level)
When: Thursday, June 7th, 2018 at 7pm
Why: The pursuit of technology freedom
Stream: http://pdxlinux.org/live

YaCy (https://yacy.net/) is an open-source distributed/peer-to-peer 
search engine, where no central server is in control of the search index 
or ranking of results.  It can be used to search the Internet through 
peer-to-peer nodes, or set up to search your own intranet.  Daniel will 
provide an introductory overview of the architecture walk through 
setting it up for several use cases.  He will also give an overview of 
what is coming with YaCy Grid, a second-generation implementation of YaCy.


Calagator Page: http://calagator.org/events/1250473845

Many will head to the Lucky Lab at 1945 NW Quimby St. after the meeting.

Rideshares to the Lucky Lab available

PLUG is open to everyone and does not tolerate abusive behavior on its 
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Re: [PLUG] Cloning a mirror raid

2018-06-01 Thread Jim Garrison
On 6/1/2018 6:14 AM, Scott Howard wrote:
> I need to clone a mirror raid on a linux box to one drive. Any software 
> suggestions other than clonezilla.

Hardware RAID card or software RAID?

Why can't you just use dd?

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[PLUG] Cloning a mirror raid

2018-06-01 Thread Scott Howard
I need to clone a mirror raid on a linux box to one drive. Any software 
suggestions other than clonezilla.



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Re: [PLUG] Experiences with USB "null modem" cables.

2018-06-01 Thread Richard Owlett

Who? Me? Masochist?
I'll have to wait until this afternoon to read your links.


On 06/01/2018 04:44 AM, Russell Senior wrote:

2 of these:
https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-1000-Gigabit-Ethernet-Adapter/dp/B00M77HMU0/
1 of these:
https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-RJ45-Cat-6-Ethernet-Patch-Cable-3-Feet-0-9-Meters/dp/B00N2VISLW/

or, if you really want pain and slow file transfers:

2 of these:
https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Converter-Prolific-Chipset-CB-DB9P/dp/B00IDSM6BW/
1 of these:
https://www.amazon.com/female-slimline-transfer-serial-adapter/dp/B075XGRLXW/

or, cheaper still:

https://www.amazon.com/Sumind-Raspberry-Programming-Windows-Supported/dp/B01N4X3BJB/
and some jumper wires to do the crossover.

Any of those three options will give you a usb-to-usb link.  Doing file
transfers over serial, I'm afraid to guess how you plan to do that.
Obviously, there are tools to do it, because it was what you had to do
before they invented ethernet.  You could probably run ppp on the serial
port and even get a network link over it.  Or just use xmodem, kermit or
something similar.  Oh, and buy some bamboo splinters to stuff under your
fingernails at the same time, you masochist!

On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 2:17 AM, Richard Owlett  wrote:


On 05/31/2018 09:12 AM, Johnathan Mantey wrote:


Richard,
Is there a reason you don't use point to point RJ45 ethernet?



YEPP ;/

If a PC has USB it almost always has RJ45 ethernet.




As you say "*almost*"

  If neither side has MDIX then RJ45

crossover cables are available to complete the connection.  Why do you
have
an affinity for USB cable solutions?



I summary my absolute required elements include all below:
   existence
   known to work
   conveniently physicallt available

I'll admit there also are some preferences:
   scratch an itch that has existed since days of USB 1.0
   explore an un-explored realm

And winner is  USB "null modem" cable ;}






On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:39 AM, Russell Senior <
russ...@personaltelco.net>
wrote:

Good luck!


On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:17 AM, Richard Owlett 
wrote:

On 05/30/2018 03:43 PM, Russell Senior wrote:


The one I have implements a USB-net interface,




I did a DuckDuckGo search for "USB-net interface" {with/without quotes}.
Found several interesting links, but not sure if any are what you are
speaking of. A link to specific device(s) you refer to?

so it's effectively an ethernet cable.





I purposely used the term "null modem". I date from an  era/industry


where


where 20 mA current loop was preferred over RS-232C for its noise


immunity.


Since USB 1.0 I've considered "universal" of USB an unfortunate choice
of
adjectives. The intrinsic implementation of hardware to forever be


either a


*MASTER* or slave is annoying.

   Most modern distributions just work.  The one you link is


a USB-to-serial-to USB.  That is not ideal for transferring files.



Depends on your metric.

If you


are unclear on what the "link" cable supports, you can always just buy


two



usb-ethernet adapters and an ethernet cable to go in the middle.


That explicitly is to be avoided as an unnecessary complication.


Maybe more adpatable than a "link cable".





I want a USB cable that is as functional (my metric) as a RS-232 cable
of
decades past. The only observable difference would be max available


speed.







On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Richard Owlett 

wrote:

ARGHHH. New it was going to be that kind of day ;/


Any problems &/or comments?



On 05/30/2018 01:53 PM, Russell Senior wrote:

Yes



On Wed, May 30, 2018, 10:54 Richard Owlett 


wrote:





I've come across a "USB Null Modem Cable" by Future Technology
Devices

International [http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/Cables/USBtoUSB.htm



].





It would seem an appropriate solution for some file sharing between


two



Linux machines which have only USB 2.0 in common.


Has anyone used this or a similar product.
TIA





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Re: [PLUG] Experiences with USB "null modem" cables.

2018-06-01 Thread Russell Senior
2 of these:
https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-1000-Gigabit-Ethernet-Adapter/dp/B00M77HMU0/
1 of these:
https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-RJ45-Cat-6-Ethernet-Patch-Cable-3-Feet-0-9-Meters/dp/B00N2VISLW/

or, if you really want pain and slow file transfers:

2 of these:
https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Converter-Prolific-Chipset-CB-DB9P/dp/B00IDSM6BW/
1 of these:
https://www.amazon.com/female-slimline-transfer-serial-adapter/dp/B075XGRLXW/

or, cheaper still:

https://www.amazon.com/Sumind-Raspberry-Programming-Windows-Supported/dp/B01N4X3BJB/
and some jumper wires to do the crossover.

Any of those three options will give you a usb-to-usb link.  Doing file
transfers over serial, I'm afraid to guess how you plan to do that.
Obviously, there are tools to do it, because it was what you had to do
before they invented ethernet.  You could probably run ppp on the serial
port and even get a network link over it.  Or just use xmodem, kermit or
something similar.  Oh, and buy some bamboo splinters to stuff under your
fingernails at the same time, you masochist!

On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 2:17 AM, Richard Owlett  wrote:

> On 05/31/2018 09:12 AM, Johnathan Mantey wrote:
>
>> Richard,
>> Is there a reason you don't use point to point RJ45 ethernet?
>>
>
> YEPP ;/
>
> If a PC has USB it almost always has RJ45 ethernet.
>>
>
> As you say "*almost*"
>
>  If neither side has MDIX then RJ45
>> crossover cables are available to complete the connection.  Why do you
>> have
>> an affinity for USB cable solutions?
>>
>
> I summary my absolute required elements include all below:
>   existence
>   known to work
>   conveniently physicallt available
>
> I'll admit there also are some preferences:
>   scratch an itch that has existed since days of USB 1.0
>   explore an un-explored realm
>
> And winner is  USB "null modem" cable ;}
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:39 AM, Russell Senior <
>> russ...@personaltelco.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Good luck!
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:17 AM, Richard Owlett 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 05/30/2018 03:43 PM, Russell Senior wrote:

 The one I have implements a USB-net interface,
>
>
 I did a DuckDuckGo search for "USB-net interface" {with/without quotes}.
 Found several interesting links, but not sure if any are what you are
 speaking of. A link to specific device(s) you refer to?

 so it's effectively an ethernet cable.

>
>
 I purposely used the term "null modem". I date from an  era/industry

>>> where
>>>
 where 20 mA current loop was preferred over RS-232C for its noise

>>> immunity.
>>>
 Since USB 1.0 I've considered "universal" of USB an unfortunate choice
 of
 adjectives. The intrinsic implementation of hardware to forever be

>>> either a
>>>
 *MASTER* or slave is annoying.

   Most modern distributions just work.  The one you link is

> a USB-to-serial-to USB.  That is not ideal for transferring files.
>
>
 Depends on your metric.

 If you

> are unclear on what the "link" cable supports, you can always just buy
>
 two
>>>
 usb-ethernet adapters and an ethernet cable to go in the middle.
>
> That explicitly is to be avoided as an unnecessary complication.

 Maybe more adpatable than a "link cable".

>
>
 I want a USB cable that is as functional (my metric) as a RS-232 cable
 of
 decades past. The only observable difference would be max available

>>> speed.
>>>





 On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Richard Owlett 
> wrote:
>
> ARGHHH. New it was going to be that kind of day ;/
>
>> Any problems &/or comments?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 05/30/2018 01:53 PM, Russell Senior wrote:
>>
>> Yes
>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 30, 2018, 10:54 Richard Owlett 
>>>
>> wrote:
>>>

>>> I've come across a "USB Null Modem Cable" by Future Technology
>>> Devices
>>>
>>> International [http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/Cables/USBtoUSB.htm

>>> ].
>>>

 It would seem an appropriate solution for some file sharing between

>>> two
>>>
 Linux machines which have only USB 2.0 in common.

 Has anyone used this or a similar product.
 TIA



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Re: [PLUG] Experiences with USB "null modem" cables.

2018-06-01 Thread Richard Owlett

On 05/31/2018 09:12 AM, Johnathan Mantey wrote:

Richard,
Is there a reason you don't use point to point RJ45 ethernet?


YEPP ;/


If a PC has USB it almost always has RJ45 ethernet.


As you say "*almost*"


 If neither side has MDIX then RJ45
crossover cables are available to complete the connection.  Why do you have
an affinity for USB cable solutions?


I summary my absolute required elements include all below:
  existence
  known to work
  conveniently physicallt available

I'll admit there also are some preferences:
  scratch an itch that has existed since days of USB 1.0
  explore an un-explored realm

And winner is  USB "null modem" cable ;}





On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:39 AM, Russell Senior 
wrote:


Good luck!

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:17 AM, Richard Owlett 
wrote:


On 05/30/2018 03:43 PM, Russell Senior wrote:


The one I have implements a USB-net interface,



I did a DuckDuckGo search for "USB-net interface" {with/without quotes}.
Found several interesting links, but not sure if any are what you are
speaking of. A link to specific device(s) you refer to?

so it's effectively an ethernet cable.




I purposely used the term "null modem". I date from an  era/industry

where

where 20 mA current loop was preferred over RS-232C for its noise

immunity.

Since USB 1.0 I've considered "universal" of USB an unfortunate choice of
adjectives. The intrinsic implementation of hardware to forever be

either a

*MASTER* or slave is annoying.

  Most modern distributions just work.  The one you link is

a USB-to-serial-to USB.  That is not ideal for transferring files.



Depends on your metric.

If you

are unclear on what the "link" cable supports, you can always just buy

two

usb-ethernet adapters and an ethernet cable to go in the middle.


That explicitly is to be avoided as an unnecessary complication.

Maybe more adpatable than a "link cable".




I want a USB cable that is as functional (my metric) as a RS-232 cable of
decades past. The only observable difference would be max available

speed.







On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Richard Owlett 
wrote:

ARGHHH. New it was going to be that kind of day ;/

Any problems &/or comments?



On 05/30/2018 01:53 PM, Russell Senior wrote:

Yes


On Wed, May 30, 2018, 10:54 Richard Owlett 

wrote:


I've come across a "USB Null Modem Cable" by Future Technology Devices


International [http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/Cables/USBtoUSB.htm

].


It would seem an appropriate solution for some file sharing between

two

Linux machines which have only USB 2.0 in common.

Has anyone used this or a similar product.
TIA




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