Re: [PLUG] Favorite Certificate Authorities

2018-09-05 Thread chris (fool) mccraw
I can confirm both of Louis' comments:

- you can run it daily and it doesn't abuse their server or change the
certificate until <30 days remain.  That's the setup I use daily in cron,
but shown here from the command line:

# letsencrypt renew
Processing /etc/letsencrypt/renewal/www.q42.me.conf
Processing /etc/letsencrypt/renewal/supportfolio.com.conf

The following certs are not due for renewal yet:
  /etc/letsencrypt/live/www.q42.me/fullchain.pem (skipped)
  /etc/letsencrypt/live/supportfolio.com/fullchain.pem (skipped)
No renewals were attempted.

- my server had the problem that it didn't trigger a webserver restart
until I updated the cron script to also restart apache.

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:13 PM Louis Kowolowski 
wrote:

> I believe that you can run the renew frequently and it won't actually
> renew until the time is right. Something like daily/weekly cron.
>
> Also, you want to make sure that when you renew, that it triggers a reload
> for your web server. Otherwise the new cert won't be picked up and you'll
> be frustrated.
>
>
> > On Sep 5, 2018, at 4:35 PM, Paul Heinlein  wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 5 Sep 2018, Tomas Kuchta (and several others) wrote:
> >
> >> LetsEncrypt.org
> >
> > Thanks to everyone who chimed in! The setup for LetsEncrypt was pretty
> easy using certbot, so I've installed a new key/cert/chain and will try
> living with it for a while.
> >
> > Supposedly it will be eligible for renewal in early November, so I've
> added a "certbot renew" cron job to my server and added an item about
> checking my certificate to my to-do list around then.
> >
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Re: [PLUG] Favorite Certificate Authorities

2018-09-05 Thread Louis Kowolowski
I believe that you can run the renew frequently and it won't actually renew 
until the time is right. Something like daily/weekly cron.

Also, you want to make sure that when you renew, that it triggers a reload for 
your web server. Otherwise the new cert won't be picked up and you'll be 
frustrated.


> On Sep 5, 2018, at 4:35 PM, Paul Heinlein  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018, Tomas Kuchta (and several others) wrote:
> 
>> LetsEncrypt.org
> 
> Thanks to everyone who chimed in! The setup for LetsEncrypt was pretty easy 
> using certbot, so I've installed a new key/cert/chain and will try living 
> with it for a while.
> 
> Supposedly it will be eligible for renewal in early November, so I've added a 
> "certbot renew" cron job to my server and added an item about checking my 
> certificate to my to-do list around then.
> 
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Re: [PLUG] Favorite Certificate Authorities

2018-09-05 Thread Paul Heinlein

On Wed, 5 Sep 2018, Tomas Kuchta (and several others) wrote:


LetsEncrypt.org


Thanks to everyone who chimed in! The setup for LetsEncrypt was pretty 
easy using certbot, so I've installed a new key/cert/chain and will 
try living with it for a while.


Supposedly it will be eligible for renewal in early November, so I've 
added a "certbot renew" cron job to my server and added an item about 
checking my certificate to my to-do list around then.


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Re: [PLUG] Favorite Certificate Authorities

2018-09-05 Thread Tomas Kuchta
Are there any other authorities other let's encrypt with free as in freedom
purpose?

LetsEncrypt.org

Unless of course you need cert for somebody else's web.

Tomas

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 12:49 PM Louis Kowolowski 
wrote:

> If you're OK with the added requirement of having to renew the cert every
> 3mo, and the machine is publicly reachable (either directly or indirectly)
> on tcp/80 and tcp/443, LetsEncrypt is probably a reasonable choice (as
> others have pointed out). There are a number of tools available for
> automating the renewal process. Personally, I prefer using the Caddy
> webserver and having it handle the renewal for me. Not needing to manage an
> additional tool is a bonus.
>
>
> > On Sep 5, 2018, at 12:59 PM, Paul Heinlein  wrote:
> >
> > The SSL certificate for my web site is due to expire in a few days. I'm
> not beholden to my current certificate authority (CA) and my requirements
> are pretty standard:
> >
> > * decent browser support
> > * modern crypto
> > * quick turnaround on requests
> >
> > I have no problem using chained certificates if necessary.
> >
> > So what CAs do you all favor these days?
> >
> > NB: There is no non-public content on my site, but there is some
> information about crypto usage. Back when I was running the site without
> https, I received an e-mail message from someone claiming to live in a
> country with an oppressive regime. (The return address and SMTP headers
> supported that claim.) That person asked if I could add SSL support so s/he
> could read my crypto pages without setting off alarm bells in the regime's
> sniffing software. I figured for a few bucks a year it was worth it.
> >
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Re: [PLUG] Favorite Certificate Authorities

2018-09-05 Thread Louis Kowolowski
If you're OK with the added requirement of having to renew the cert every 3mo, 
and the machine is publicly reachable (either directly or indirectly) on tcp/80 
and tcp/443, LetsEncrypt is probably a reasonable choice (as others have 
pointed out). There are a number of tools available for automating the renewal 
process. Personally, I prefer using the Caddy webserver and having it handle 
the renewal for me. Not needing to manage an additional tool is a bonus.


> On Sep 5, 2018, at 12:59 PM, Paul Heinlein  wrote:
> 
> The SSL certificate for my web site is due to expire in a few days. I'm not 
> beholden to my current certificate authority (CA) and my requirements are 
> pretty standard:
> 
> * decent browser support
> * modern crypto
> * quick turnaround on requests
> 
> I have no problem using chained certificates if necessary.
> 
> So what CAs do you all favor these days?
> 
> NB: There is no non-public content on my site, but there is some information 
> about crypto usage. Back when I was running the site without https, I 
> received an e-mail message from someone claiming to live in a country with an 
> oppressive regime. (The return address and SMTP headers supported that 
> claim.) That person asked if I could add SSL support so s/he could read my 
> crypto pages without setting off alarm bells in the regime's sniffing 
> software. I figured for a few bucks a year it was worth it.
> 
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> heinl...@madboa.com
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Re: [PLUG] Favorite Certificate Authorities

2018-09-05 Thread Galen Seitz

On 09/05/2018 11:09 AM, Alexandre Bedard wrote:


On 9/5/2018 10:59 AM, Paul Heinlein wrote:

So what CAs do you all favor these days?


Have you tried https://letsencrypt.org/ ?

Free, publicly trusted SSL certificates. One of the differences between 
this and traditional commercial CA's is that the certificate is due for 
renewal every 90 days, but you can automate the process with 
certbot-auto and cron. I use LetsEncrypt certificates a lot and use 
Puppet to deploy the renewed certificates to all my hosts.


Seconded.  I'm using certbot under CentOS 7 for postfix/dovecot.  It's 
in epel and was easy to set up.


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Re: [PLUG] Favorite Certificate Authorities

2018-09-05 Thread Russell Senior
Letsencrypt++. Free, good browser coverage, easy administration with
certbot or equivalent.

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 11:11 Alexandre Bedard  wrote:

>
> On 9/5/2018 10:59 AM, Paul Heinlein wrote:
> > So what CAs do you all favor these days?
>
> Have you tried https://letsencrypt.org/ ?
>
> Free, publicly trusted SSL certificates. One of the differences between
> this and traditional commercial CA's is that the certificate is due for
> renewal every 90 days, but you can automate the process with
> certbot-auto and cron. I use LetsEncrypt certificates a lot and use
> Puppet to deploy the renewed certificates to all my hosts.
>
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Re: [PLUG] Favorite Certificate Authorities

2018-09-05 Thread Alexandre Bedard



On 9/5/2018 10:59 AM, Paul Heinlein wrote:

So what CAs do you all favor these days?


Have you tried https://letsencrypt.org/ ?

Free, publicly trusted SSL certificates. One of the differences between 
this and traditional commercial CA's is that the certificate is due for 
renewal every 90 days, but you can automate the process with 
certbot-auto and cron. I use LetsEncrypt certificates a lot and use 
Puppet to deploy the renewed certificates to all my hosts.


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[PLUG] Favorite Certificate Authorities

2018-09-05 Thread Paul Heinlein
The SSL certificate for my web site is due to expire in a few days. 
I'm not beholden to my current certificate authority (CA) and my 
requirements are pretty standard:


* decent browser support
* modern crypto
* quick turnaround on requests

I have no problem using chained certificates if necessary.

So what CAs do you all favor these days?

NB: There is no non-public content on my site, but there is some 
information about crypto usage. Back when I was running the site 
without https, I received an e-mail message from someone claiming to 
live in a country with an oppressive regime. (The return address and 
SMTP headers supported that claim.) That person asked if I could add 
SSL support so s/he could read my crypto pages without setting off 
alarm bells in the regime's sniffing software. I figured for a few 
bucks a year it was worth it.


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