Re: [PLUG] Strange Google Earth exit behavior

2019-07-31 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Dick Steffens wrote:


I don't remember setting it up, but just using my login password worked
for me.


Dick,

Why enter anything? Is it locally stored or does Google take it somewhere? A
local application should not need a password.

Guess I'll keep pressing the 'Cancel' button.

Thanks,

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Re: [PLUG] Copying to new host, excluding a directory tree

2019-07-31 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> > Well, I'm the only human element involved and I have no problems.
> > When
> > synchronizing an entire directory there's never been an issue. What I
> > want
> > to learn is how to exclude a specific subdirectory on the source
> > host.
> 
> In an earlier reply I mentioned using a file to exclude things that is
> referenced on the rsync command line.  I know that things can be
> excluded as an argument on the command line but I've been tripped up
> doing it like that in the past.  I would suggest trying the following 
> using your correct information of course.
> 
> Create a file on the source node /home/rshepard/excludes.txt that
> includes the directory you want to exclude (in this case data no /
> needed), and possibly excludes.txt
> 
> The following should do what you want as it works prefectly for me with
> my specific directories and excludes.
> 
> rsync -arvP -e ssh --exclude-from='/home/rshepard/excludes.txt'
> /home/rshepard/ rshepard@salmo:/home/rshepard/ 
> 
> I have files with commands resembling the one above on several
> computers which have worked for me for years.

I would highly encourage this solution, as the other
solution using the command line exclude is a filter
"On that word(s)" and may actually exclude more than
just the directory you wish should that word appear
anyplace in any other file name.  This comes with a
voice of experience in using command line exclude filters,
imho they should be abolished as wasted program space,
command line complexity and bad user experience.

The formal traditional "unixy" way to do this is to
feed a right proper constructed list of desired files
to a command using a filter, most often find and grep {,-v}.

I'll give rsync a nod, it has more options than ls :-)

You can use the --list-only to get the list of files,
then pipe that through a properly anchored grep -v to
prune out the undesired files to locally create the above
excludes.txt file.


> Hope this helps
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Re: [PLUG] Strange Google Earth exit behavior

2019-07-31 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Ben Koenig wrote:
> 
> > There's a way to make it stop. I bet you asked about this years ago and
> > implemented the workaround on your other systems.
> 
> Not too likely as I've not before encountered it, unless it was about 20
> years ago and I've forgotten it since then.
> 
> > My solution is to not run apps that do stupid gnome things. Life is simpler
> > without that stuff.
> 
> Your choice. I find GE very useful for both business and personal
> applicastions.

Google more and more wants to do all things for you and they
have added automatic key ring management to there ever intrusive
set of tools and each tool now expects you to use there keyring
system.

IIRC Chrome recently started doing this same nag on one of
my sysctem, I just keep pushing cancel and give a growl at
the google god whom I wish out of my live.  Sadly since I
am not a EU citizen I can not ask to be forgotten :-(.

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Re: [PLUG] Strange Google Earth exit behavior

2019-07-31 Thread Dick Steffens

On 7/31/19 10:18 AM, Rich Shepard wrote:

The latest SBo offering for 64-bit Google Earth is installed on the new
64-bit desktop and works fine. Except, when I log out a dialog box opens
asking for which keypass password I want to use.


I don't remember setting it up, but just using my login password worked 
for me.


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Re: [PLUG] Copying to new host, excluding a directory tree

2019-07-31 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Smith, Cathy wrote:


I've always found it useful to test my rsync syntax with a subset of the
data or the --dry-run option first. Various OS implement rsync a tiny bit
differently.

There are a lot of good rsync tutorials online which have working examples.


Cathy,

Good advice. Thank you.

Regards,

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Re: [PLUG] Copying to new host, excluding a directory tree

2019-07-31 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, David Bridges wrote:


In an earlier reply I mentioned using a file to exclude things that is
referenced on the rsync command line. I know that things can be excluded
as an argument on the command line but I've been tripped up doing it like
that in the past. I would suggest trying the following using your correct
information of course.


David,

I read that. With only a single subdirectory I tried to do it on the command
line. However ...


The following should do what you want as it works prefectly for me with my
specific directories and excludes.

rsync -arvP -e ssh --exclude-from='/home/rshepard/excludes.txt'
/home/rshepard/ rshepard@salmo:/home/rshepard/



Hope this helps


... yes, this does help.

Thanks,

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Re: [PLUG] Copying to new host, excluding a directory tree

2019-07-31 Thread Smith, Cathy
I've always found it useful to test my rsync syntax with a subset of the data 
or the --dry-run option first.  Various OS implement rsync a tiny bit 
differently.

There are a lot of good rsync tutorials online which have working examples.


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From: plug-boun...@pdxlinux.org  On Behalf Of David 
Bridges
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 1:15 PM
To: plug@pdxlinux.org
Subject: Re: [PLUG] Copying to new host, excluding a directory tree

> Well, I'm the only human element involved and I have no problems.
> When
> synchronizing an entire directory there's never been an issue. What I 
> want to learn is how to exclude a specific subdirectory on the source 
> host.

In an earlier reply I mentioned using a file to exclude things that is 
referenced on the rsync command line.  I know that things can be excluded as an 
argument on the command line but I've been tripped up doing it like that in the 
past.  I would suggest trying the following using your correct information of 
course.

Create a file on the source node /home/rshepard/excludes.txt that includes the 
directory you want to exclude (in this case data no / needed), and possibly 
excludes.txt

The following should do what you want as it works prefectly for me with my 
specific directories and excludes.

rsync -arvP -e ssh --exclude-from='/home/rshepard/excludes.txt'
/home/rshepard/ rshepard@salmo:/home/rshepard/ 

I have files with commands resembling the one above on several computers which 
have worked for me for years.

Hope this helps

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Re: [PLUG] Copying to new host, excluding a directory tree

2019-07-31 Thread David Bridges
> Well, I'm the only human element involved and I have no problems.
> When
> synchronizing an entire directory there's never been an issue. What I
> want
> to learn is how to exclude a specific subdirectory on the source
> host.

In an earlier reply I mentioned using a file to exclude things that is
referenced on the rsync command line.  I know that things can be
excluded as an argument on the command line but I've been tripped up
doing it like that in the past.  I would suggest trying the following 
using your correct information of course.

Create a file on the source node /home/rshepard/excludes.txt that
includes the directory you want to exclude (in this case data no /
needed), and possibly excludes.txt

The following should do what you want as it works prefectly for me with
my specific directories and excludes.

rsync -arvP -e ssh --exclude-from='/home/rshepard/excludes.txt'
/home/rshepard/ rshepard@salmo:/home/rshepard/ 

I have files with commands resembling the one above on several
computers which have worked for me for years.

Hope this helps

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Re: [PLUG] Copying to new host, excluding a directory tree

2019-07-31 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Tomas Kuchta wrote:


You need to quote the remote host:'*' like this to prevent your local shell
expanding it locally instead of remotely.


Tomas,

Okay. That makes a lot of sense.

Thank you,

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Re: [PLUG] Copying to new host, excluding a directory tree

2019-07-31 Thread Tomas Kuchta
You need to quote the remote host:'*' like this to prevent your local shell
expanding it locally instead of remotely.

Hope this helps,
Tomas

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019, 14:01 Rich Shepard  wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Jul 2019, tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > you can use --exclude dirOrFileName multiple times - it will form a list
>
> From the target machine I tried to rsync all of my home directory from
> salmo, except for the data/ subdirectory but my syntax is wrong. On the
> source host data/ is a subdirectory under ~/. On the target host it's a
> different partition, /data.
>
> rsync -av --exclude=data/ salmo:* .
>
> skips all ~/ and copies over no files.
>
> What's the correct syntax for this?
>
> Regards,
>
> Rich
>
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Re: [PLUG] Strange Google Earth exit behavior

2019-07-31 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Ben Koenig wrote:


There's a way to make it stop. I bet you asked about this years ago and
implemented the workaround on your other systems.


Not too likely as I've not before encountered it, unless it was about 20
years ago and I've forgotten it since then.


My solution is to not run apps that do stupid gnome things. Life is simpler
without that stuff.


Your choice. I find GE very useful for both business and personal
applicastions.

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Re: [PLUG] Copying to new host, excluding a directory tree

2019-07-31 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Ben Koenig wrote:


Stop using wildcards and the . when using rsync. It causes problems for
the human element. Specify the folders using ABSOLUTE pathnames and always
include the trailing /


Well, I'm the only human element involved and I have no problems. When
synchronizing an entire directory there's never been an issue. What I want
to learn is how to exclude a specific subdirectory on the source host.

Rich


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Re: [PLUG] Strange Google Earth exit behavior

2019-07-31 Thread Ben Koenig
Yep. That's gnome-keyring. Googs is playing favorites and forcing
dependencies on gnome libraries.

There's a way to make it stop. I bet you asked about this years ago and
implemented the workaround on your other systems.

My solution is to not run apps that do stupid gnome things. Life is simpler
without that stuff.

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019, 12:15 PM Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Ben Koenig wrote:
>
> > Is it a gnome keyring prompt?
> > That's usually what people see for googs earths.
>
> Ben,
>
> No clue. The text in the dialog box reads, "Choose password for new
> keyring.
> An application wants to create a newkeyring called 'Default' enter the
> password you want to use." There are two text entry widgets for the
> password.
>
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Re: [PLUG] Copying to new host, excluding a directory tree

2019-07-31 Thread Ben Koenig
rsync -av user@srchost:~/  /path/to/destination/

Stop using wildcards and the . when using rsync. It causes problems for the
human element. Specify the folders using ABSOLUTE pathnames and always
include the trailing /



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019, 11:01 AM Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Jul 2019, tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > you can use --exclude dirOrFileName multiple times - it will form a list
>
> From the target machine I tried to rsync all of my home directory from
> salmo, except for the data/ subdirectory but my syntax is wrong. On the
> source host data/ is a subdirectory under ~/. On the target host it's a
> different partition, /data.
>
> rsync -av --exclude=data/ salmo:* .
>
> skips all ~/ and copies over no files.
>
> What's the correct syntax for this?
>
> Regards,
>
> Rich
>
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Re: [PLUG] Strange Google Earth exit behavior

2019-07-31 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Ben Koenig wrote:


Is it a gnome keyring prompt?
That's usually what people see for googs earths.


Ben,

No clue. The text in the dialog box reads, "Choose password for new keyring.
An application wants to create a newkeyring called 'Default' enter the
password you want to use." There are two text entry widgets for the
password.

Rich

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[PLUG] TOMORROW: Portland Linux/Unix Group: Introduction to Ansible

2019-07-31 Thread Michael Dexter



Portland Linux/Unix Group General Meeting Announcement

Who: Larry Brigman
What: Introduction to Ansible or why you too should be doing 
infrastructure as code

Where: PSU, 1930 SW 4th Ave. Room FAB 86-01 (Lower Level)
When: Thursday, August 1st, 2019 at 7pm
Why: The pursuit of technology freedom
Stream: http://pdxlinux.org/live

Automation and configuration management is hard when the tools you use 
don't provide the basics. Ansible is built from the ground up to always 
handle and check the error conditions.
Come learn a little Ansible and see how you can start on your path 
toward using Infrastructure as Code.


About Larry

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Re: [PLUG] Strange Google Earth exit behavior

2019-07-31 Thread Ben Koenig
Is it a gnome keyring prompt?

That's usually what people see for googs earths.

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019, 10:18 AM Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> The latest SBo offering for 64-bit Google Earth is installed on the new
> 64-bit desktop and works fine. Except, when I log out a dialog box opens
> asking for which keypass password I want to use.
>
> As I've never before seen this behavior on the 32-bit desktop or the 64-bit
> laptops I've no idea why it pops up and cannot find a place within GE to
> turn it off. There's no problem with clicking the 'Cancel' button yet not
> having it display is preferable.
>
> Any ideas?
>
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Re: [PLUG] Copying to new host, excluding a directory tree

2019-07-31 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 17 Jul 2019, tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com wrote:


you can use --exclude dirOrFileName multiple times - it will form a list



From the target machine I tried to rsync all of my home directory from

salmo, except for the data/ subdirectory but my syntax is wrong. On the
source host data/ is a subdirectory under ~/. On the target host it's a
different partition, /data.

rsync -av --exclude=data/ salmo:* .

skips all ~/ and copies over no files.

What's the correct syntax for this?

Regards,

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Re: [PLUG] Ping works but rsync and ssh don't

2019-07-31 Thread alan
Check the permissions on your ~/.ssh directory. Should be 700.

> Your actual command line would be a good place to start.
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 10:25 AM Rich Shepard 
> wrote:
>
>> A strange behavior just appeared on the LAN. After setting ssh-add to
>> both
>> desktops after logging in I was able to scp a file from salmo (32-bit)
>> to
>> baetis (64-bit). A while later trying to rsync baetis' /data directory
>> with
>> salmo's data/ directory failed because of a broken pipe/host not found
>> error
>> message. Same result trying to ssh from baetis to salmo. Yet, pinging
>> salmo
>> from baetis works fine.
>>
>> Where do I start looking for the reason?
>>
>> Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Ping works but rsync and ssh don't [FIXED]

2019-07-31 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Russell Senior wrote:


Your actual command line would be a good place to start.


Russell,

I was just about to post the attempt and that's when I saw the syntax error.
Mea culpa!

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Re: [PLUG] Ping works but rsync and ssh don't

2019-07-31 Thread Russell Senior
Your actual command line would be a good place to start.

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 10:25 AM Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> A strange behavior just appeared on the LAN. After setting ssh-add to both
> desktops after logging in I was able to scp a file from salmo (32-bit) to
> baetis (64-bit). A while later trying to rsync baetis' /data directory with
> salmo's data/ directory failed because of a broken pipe/host not found
> error
> message. Same result trying to ssh from baetis to salmo. Yet, pinging salmo
> from baetis works fine.
>
> Where do I start looking for the reason?
>
> Rich
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[PLUG] Ping works but rsync and ssh don't

2019-07-31 Thread Rich Shepard

A strange behavior just appeared on the LAN. After setting ssh-add to both
desktops after logging in I was able to scp a file from salmo (32-bit) to
baetis (64-bit). A while later trying to rsync baetis' /data directory with
salmo's data/ directory failed because of a broken pipe/host not found error
message. Same result trying to ssh from baetis to salmo. Yet, pinging salmo
from baetis works fine.

Where do I start looking for the reason?

Rich

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[PLUG] Strange Google Earth exit behavior

2019-07-31 Thread Rich Shepard

The latest SBo offering for 64-bit Google Earth is installed on the new
64-bit desktop and works fine. Except, when I log out a dialog box opens
asking for which keypass password I want to use.

As I've never before seen this behavior on the 32-bit desktop or the 64-bit
laptops I've no idea why it pops up and cannot find a place within GE to
turn it off. There's no problem with clicking the 'Cancel' button yet not
having it display is preferable.

Any ideas?

Rich
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