Re: [PLUG] fsck: recommended options?

2019-08-04 Thread Rich Shepard

On Sun, 4 Aug 2019, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:


fsck -p is the proper normal invocation of fsck, and only if absolutely
necessary should a fsck -y be run, and only as a very last resort.


Rodney,

Valid point. Thank you.

No indication that fsck barfed on its way through the backup drive.

Regards,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] fsck: recommended options?

2019-08-04 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> On Sun, 4 Aug 2019, wes wrote:
> 
> > fsck does pretty well without parameters. If you wish to dispense with the
> > need to authorize any repairs it suggests, having it just perform them,
> > you can supply -p and/or -y.
> 
> wes,
> 
> Thank you. That was my recollection but it's been a very long time so
> checking with those having more expertise is worth while.

I can not stress enough how dangerious fsck -y is, that
says blindly assume the answer is always yes, even if
data loss is about to occur on a grand scale.

fsck -p is the proper normal invocation of fsck,
and only if absolutely necessary should a fsck -y
be run, and only as a very last resort.

fsck /dev/path if a fsck -p fails to clean the
device is an interactive command, that one should
undestand the questions and answer to before
procedding to repair a file system.

> Best regards,
> Rich
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Re: [PLUG] fsck: recommended options?

2019-08-04 Thread Rich Shepard

On Sun, 4 Aug 2019, wes wrote:


My best guess is that it's simple luck: on the occasion(s) you wanted to
access the drive manually, it happened to be identified as sdb. Today, it
happens to have been assigned sdc.

This inability to predict which device name will be assigned to a given
device is the reason the switch to the UUID method was done.


Wes,

Okay. While I've not seen this when manually mounting the backup drive I've
seen different USB flash drives identified by the kernel with different
device names, each consistently assigned the same name.

Thanks very much,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] fsck: recommended options?

2019-08-04 Thread wes
On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 11:13 AM Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> On Sun, 4 Aug 2019, wes wrote:
>
> > fsck does pretty well without parameters. If you wish to dispense with
> the
> > need to authorize any repairs it suggests, having it just perform them,
> you
> > can supply -p and/or -y.
>
> Wes/Cathy:
>
> At first, fsck did not work when I specified the device as /dev/sdb which
> is
> how I access it when I need to restore a specific file. In /etc/fstab
> that's
> how it's listed:
> /dev/sdb /mnt/hd  ext3noauto,users,rw  0   0
>
> Looking at the output of fdisk -l found no /dev/sdb, but a /dev/sdc which
> is
> not specifically in /etc/fstab. What is shown in that file is:
>
> UUID=da596a77-2fb4-41ed-881c-a3f8bb0ab437 /mnt/backup  auto defaults  0 0
>
> and fsck is working its way through the 500G on that drive.
>
> I'd like to understand how, when I turn on the drive after logging off so
> cron can run dirvish each night, it's mounted on /mnt/backup as /dev/sdc
> through the UUID designation, but when I want to access it manually I can
> mount /dev/sdb on /dev/hd.
>
> TIA,
>
>
Insufficient data for a meaningful answer.

My best guess is that it's simple luck: on the occasion(s) you wanted to
access the drive manually, it happened to be identified as sdb. Today, it
happens to have been assigned sdc.

This inability to predict which device name will be assigned to a given
device is the reason the switch to the UUID method was done.

-wes
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Re: [PLUG] fsck: recommended options?

2019-08-04 Thread Rich Shepard

On Sun, 4 Aug 2019, wes wrote:


fsck does pretty well without parameters. If you wish to dispense with the
need to authorize any repairs it suggests, having it just perform them, you
can supply -p and/or -y.


Wes/Cathy:

At first, fsck did not work when I specified the device as /dev/sdb which is
how I access it when I need to restore a specific file. In /etc/fstab that's
how it's listed:
/dev/sdb /mnt/hd  ext3noauto,users,rw  0   0

Looking at the output of fdisk -l found no /dev/sdb, but a /dev/sdc which is
not specifically in /etc/fstab. What is shown in that file is:

UUID=da596a77-2fb4-41ed-881c-a3f8bb0ab437 /mnt/backup  auto defaults  0 0

and fsck is working its way through the 500G on that drive.

I'd like to understand how, when I turn on the drive after logging off so
cron can run dirvish each night, it's mounted on /mnt/backup as /dev/sdc
through the UUID designation, but when I want to access it manually I can
mount /dev/sdb on /dev/hd.

TIA,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] fsck: recommended options?

2019-08-04 Thread Rich Shepard

On Sun, 4 Aug 2019, Smith, Cathy wrote:


I've just always used
fsck -y


Cathy,

Then that's good enough for me, too.

Best regards,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] fsck: recommended options?

2019-08-04 Thread Smith, Cathy
I've just always used   
fsck -y

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Subject: [PLUG] fsck: recommended options?

My daily logwatch report shows kernel errors on the external backup drive, 
/dev/sdb/, an ext3 file system. It's been a very long time since I had occasion 
to manually run fsck.

After turning no the enclosure (and leaving the drive unmounted) what command 
line options should I add to fsck.ext3?

TIA,

Rich

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Re: [PLUG] fsck: recommended options?

2019-08-04 Thread wes
On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 8:06 AM Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> My daily logwatch report shows kernel errors on the external backup drive,
> /dev/sdb/, an ext3 file system. It's been a very long time since I had
> occasion to manually run fsck.
>
> After turning no the enclosure (and leaving the drive unmounted) what
> command line options should I add to fsck.ext3?
>
>
>
fsck does pretty well without parameters. If you wish to dispense with the
need to authorize any repairs it suggests, having it just perform them, you
can supply -p and/or -y.

-wes
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[PLUG] fsck: recommended options?

2019-08-04 Thread Rich Shepard

My daily logwatch report shows kernel errors on the external backup drive,
/dev/sdb/, an ext3 file system. It's been a very long time since I had
occasion to manually run fsck.

After turning no the enclosure (and leaving the drive unmounted) what
command line options should I add to fsck.ext3?

TIA,

Rich

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