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Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

2020-04-28 Thread elcaseti .

I've heard Jitsi Meet works well for large groups.  I've used Signal with
medium sized groups.  I'd like to hear how Signal works with larger groups,
as it is the main tool I use to communicate with folks.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:50 PM Tomas Kuchta 
wrote:

> You have pretty nice spreadsheet - I used Google Hangouts - it works great
> as well as Jitsi - works well using chrome and on Android.
>
> I do not know what is Discord or what is IRC. And I do not have any
> teletypes - just a good collection of Linux laptops, desktops and servers.
>
> Will I be able to join without a teletype, on Linux and creating tons of
> accounts?
>
> -T
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 14:29 wes  wrote:
>
> > As for criteria, I would mostly be looking for deficiencies rather than
> > efficiencies. Does it break down after the 10th participant joins? 20th?
> I
> > don't think we have the manpower available to test at the 100 user level,
> > but the more the better.
> >
> > "Breaking down" would consist of the video or audio quality degrading
> > significantly, or an inability for new participants to join, or any other
> > breakdown in communication we observe.
> >
> > We could also look for factors like the interface. How many participants'
> > video feeds can we see at once? How does it handle audio coming from
> > multiple sources at once?
> >
> > -wes
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 12:01 PM John Sechrest 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Just yesterday I was in a conversation about tools and I started a
> > > spreadsheet of different video / remote tools.
> > >
> > > So far people have mentioned:
> > >
> > > Zoom
> > > Kast
> > > Crowdcast
> > > Slack
> > > Google Hangouts
> > > Google duo
> > > MS Teams
> > > discord
> > > Wechat
> > > Whatsapp
> > > Facebook/facetime
> > > Kakao
> > > Line
> > > Youtube live
> > > Meetaway
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It would be interesting to me to know what criteria/features you would
> > use
> > > to evaluate these.
> > >
> > > I am trying to run workshops of 25-35 people.
> > >
> > > And on May13 I have a 250 person event I am trying to run. So I am all
> > ears
> > > about how you are thinking about video tools and evaluating them.
> > >
> > > I just saw a conversation on the facilitators mailing list about the
> use
> > of
> > > Miro and Mural and the bandwidth requirements. So that is also an
> Issue.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 10:29 PM wes  wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would be interested in seeing this concept get put to work. Could
> we
> > > > consider load-testing various alternative video conferencing tools so
> > we
> > > > can get a better sense of their capabilities?
> > > >
> > > > -wes
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 8:07 PM John Sechrest 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have been organizing Open Coffee meetings with zoom. It works
> > > > reasonably
> > > > > well. I have not been able to replace it with other tools yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > We just this weekend ran a startup weekend remote. The core tool
> for
> > > that
> > > > > was discord.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you want a text + video experience, that can work.
> > > > >
> > > > > It helps to have a facilitator with a theme about what they want to
> > > > > communicate.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 7:59 PM Michael Dexter <
> dex...@pdxlinux.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PLUG to me is a monthly meeting. The Clinics are great but are
> not
> > a
> > > > way
> > > > > > for me to participate in.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would someone like to organize an online activity during the
> First
> > > > > > Thursday time slot? I will drop in as I can as I do have a list
> of
> > > > > > candidate speakers if a rhythm is established.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Public and private answers OK!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Happy Quarantine!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Michael Dexter
> > > > > > PLUG Volunteer
> > > > > > ___
> > > > > > PLUG mailing list
> > > > > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > > > > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > John Sechrest  .  Need to schedule a meeting :
> > > > > http://sechrest.youcanbookme.com
> > > > >.
> > > > > .
> > > > > .
> > > > >
> > > > >   .
> > > > >  sechr...@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > .
> > > > >@sechrest  <
> > http://www.twitter.com/sechrest
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  .
> > > > > http://www.oomaat.com
> > > > >.
> > > > > ___
> > > > > PLUG mailing list
> > > > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > > > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> > > > >
> > > > ___
> > > > PLUG m

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

2020-04-28 Thread Tomas Kuchta

You have pretty nice spreadsheet - I used Google Hangouts - it works great
as well as Jitsi - works well using chrome and on Android.

I do not know what is Discord or what is IRC. And I do not have any
teletypes - just a good collection of Linux laptops, desktops and servers.

Will I be able to join without a teletype, on Linux and creating tons of
accounts?

-T




On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 14:29 wes  wrote:

> As for criteria, I would mostly be looking for deficiencies rather than
> efficiencies. Does it break down after the 10th participant joins? 20th? I
> don't think we have the manpower available to test at the 100 user level,
> but the more the better.
>
> "Breaking down" would consist of the video or audio quality degrading
> significantly, or an inability for new participants to join, or any other
> breakdown in communication we observe.
>
> We could also look for factors like the interface. How many participants'
> video feeds can we see at once? How does it handle audio coming from
> multiple sources at once?
>
> -wes
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 12:01 PM John Sechrest  wrote:
>
> > Just yesterday I was in a conversation about tools and I started a
> > spreadsheet of different video / remote tools.
> >
> > So far people have mentioned:
> >
> > Zoom
> > Kast
> > Crowdcast
> > Slack
> > Google Hangouts
> > Google duo
> > MS Teams
> > discord
> > Wechat
> > Whatsapp
> > Facebook/facetime
> > Kakao
> > Line
> > Youtube live
> > Meetaway
> >
> >
> >
> > It would be interesting to me to know what criteria/features you would
> use
> > to evaluate these.
> >
> > I am trying to run workshops of 25-35 people.
> >
> > And on May13 I have a 250 person event I am trying to run. So I am all
> ears
> > about how you are thinking about video tools and evaluating them.
> >
> > I just saw a conversation on the facilitators mailing list about the use
> of
> > Miro and Mural and the bandwidth requirements. So that is also an Issue.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 10:29 PM wes  wrote:
> >
> > > I would be interested in seeing this concept get put to work. Could we
> > > consider load-testing various alternative video conferencing tools so
> we
> > > can get a better sense of their capabilities?
> > >
> > > -wes
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 8:07 PM John Sechrest 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have been organizing Open Coffee meetings with zoom. It works
> > > reasonably
> > > > well. I have not been able to replace it with other tools yet.
> > > >
> > > > We just this weekend ran a startup weekend remote. The core tool for
> > that
> > > > was discord.
> > > >
> > > > If you want a text + video experience, that can work.
> > > >
> > > > It helps to have a facilitator with a theme about what they want to
> > > > communicate.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 7:59 PM Michael Dexter 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello all,
> > > > >
> > > > > PLUG to me is a monthly meeting. The Clinics are great but are not
> a
> > > way
> > > > > for me to participate in.
> > > > >
> > > > > Would someone like to organize an online activity during the First
> > > > > Thursday time slot? I will drop in as I can as I do have a list of
> > > > > candidate speakers if a rhythm is established.
> > > > >
> > > > > Public and private answers OK!
> > > > >
> > > > > Happy Quarantine!
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael Dexter
> > > > > PLUG Volunteer
> > > > > ___
> > > > > PLUG mailing list
> > > > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > > > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > John Sechrest  .  Need to schedule a meeting :
> > > > http://sechrest.youcanbookme.com
> > > >.
> > > > .
> > > > .
> > > >
> > > >   .
> > > >  sechr...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > .
> > > >@sechrest  <
> http://www.twitter.com/sechrest
> > >
> > > >
> > > >  .
> > > > http://www.oomaat.com
> > > >.
> > > > ___
> > > > PLUG mailing list
> > > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> > > >
> > > ___
> > > PLUG mailing list
> > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > John Sechrest  .  Need to schedule a meeting :
> > http://sechrest.youcanbookme.com
> >.
> > .
> > .
> >
> >   .
> >  sechr...@gmail.com
> >.
> >@sechrest  
> >

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

2020-04-28 Thread wes

As for criteria, I would mostly be looking for deficiencies rather than
efficiencies. Does it break down after the 10th participant joins? 20th? I
don't think we have the manpower available to test at the 100 user level,
but the more the better.

"Breaking down" would consist of the video or audio quality degrading
significantly, or an inability for new participants to join, or any other
breakdown in communication we observe.

We could also look for factors like the interface. How many participants'
video feeds can we see at once? How does it handle audio coming from
multiple sources at once?

-wes

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 12:01 PM John Sechrest  wrote:

> Just yesterday I was in a conversation about tools and I started a
> spreadsheet of different video / remote tools.
>
> So far people have mentioned:
>
> Zoom
> Kast
> Crowdcast
> Slack
> Google Hangouts
> Google duo
> MS Teams
> discord
> Wechat
> Whatsapp
> Facebook/facetime
> Kakao
> Line
> Youtube live
> Meetaway
>
>
>
> It would be interesting to me to know what criteria/features you would use
> to evaluate these.
>
> I am trying to run workshops of 25-35 people.
>
> And on May13 I have a 250 person event I am trying to run. So I am all ears
> about how you are thinking about video tools and evaluating them.
>
> I just saw a conversation on the facilitators mailing list about the use of
> Miro and Mural and the bandwidth requirements. So that is also an Issue.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 10:29 PM wes  wrote:
>
> > I would be interested in seeing this concept get put to work. Could we
> > consider load-testing various alternative video conferencing tools so we
> > can get a better sense of their capabilities?
> >
> > -wes
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 8:07 PM John Sechrest 
> wrote:
> >
> > > I have been organizing Open Coffee meetings with zoom. It works
> > reasonably
> > > well. I have not been able to replace it with other tools yet.
> > >
> > > We just this weekend ran a startup weekend remote. The core tool for
> that
> > > was discord.
> > >
> > > If you want a text + video experience, that can work.
> > >
> > > It helps to have a facilitator with a theme about what they want to
> > > communicate.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 7:59 PM Michael Dexter 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >
> > > > PLUG to me is a monthly meeting. The Clinics are great but are not a
> > way
> > > > for me to participate in.
> > > >
> > > > Would someone like to organize an online activity during the First
> > > > Thursday time slot? I will drop in as I can as I do have a list of
> > > > candidate speakers if a rhythm is established.
> > > >
> > > > Public and private answers OK!
> > > >
> > > > Happy Quarantine!
> > > >
> > > > Michael Dexter
> > > > PLUG Volunteer
> > > > ___
> > > > PLUG mailing list
> > > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > John Sechrest  .  Need to schedule a meeting :
> > > http://sechrest.youcanbookme.com
> > >.
> > > .
> > > .
> > >
> > >   .
> > >  sechr...@gmail.com
> > >
> .
> > >@sechrest   >
> > >
> > >  .
> > > http://www.oomaat.com
> > >.
> > > ___
> > > PLUG mailing list
> > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> > >
> > ___
> > PLUG mailing list
> > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> >
>
>
> --
> John Sechrest  .  Need to schedule a meeting :
> http://sechrest.youcanbookme.com
>.
> .
> .
>
>   .
>  sechr...@gmail.com
>.
>@sechrest  
>
>  .
> http://www.oomaat.com
>.
> ___
> PLUG mailing list
> PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
>
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Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

2020-04-28 Thread Rich Shepard


On Tue, 28 Apr 2020, John Sechrest wrote:


Yes, I know about freeconference call. Since I am focused on largish
groups, it does not pop to my mind as a group video tool.


John,

Their web site says they support 1,000 participants per call.

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Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

2020-04-28 Thread John Sechrest

I was surprised at how much discord felt like IRC, with a more modern
interface...



On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 1:42 PM Russell Senior 
wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:07 AM Michael Dexter 
> wrote:
>
> > On 4/27/20 10:28 PM, wes wrote:
> > > I would be interested in seeing this concept get put to work. Could we
> > > consider load-testing various alternative video conferencing tools so
> we
> > > can get a better sense of their capabilities?
> >
> > Sounds like we have two volunteers!
> >
> > Let me know how I can help.
> >
>
> You say you have speakers?
>
> My 2¢ would be to focus on trying out FOSS-friendly conferencing solutions.
> Or even, dare I say, IRC. Or, to venture even farther out on limb, IRC over
> teletype!
>
>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X904FYolBs0
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Michael
> > ___
> > PLUG mailing list
> > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> >
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>


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http://sechrest.youcanbookme.com
   .
.
.

  .
 sechr...@gmail.com
   .
   @sechrest  

 .
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Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

2020-04-28 Thread Russell Senior

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:07 AM Michael Dexter  wrote:

> On 4/27/20 10:28 PM, wes wrote:
> > I would be interested in seeing this concept get put to work. Could we
> > consider load-testing various alternative video conferencing tools so we
> > can get a better sense of their capabilities?
>
> Sounds like we have two volunteers!
>
> Let me know how I can help.
>

You say you have speakers?

My 2¢ would be to focus on trying out FOSS-friendly conferencing solutions.
Or even, dare I say, IRC. Or, to venture even farther out on limb, IRC over
teletype!

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X904FYolBs0

>
> Michael
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Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

2020-04-28 Thread John Sechrest

Yes, I know about freeconference call. Since I am focused on largish
groups, it does not pop to my mind as a group video tool.

Put it on the list.



On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 12:10 PM Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Apr 2020, John Sechrest wrote:
>
> > Just yesterday I was in a conversation about tools and I started a
> > spreadsheet of different video / remote tools.
> >
> > So far people have mentioned:
>
> John,
>
> Have you looked at freeconferencecall.com?
> 
>
> I created an account and plan to use it for 3+ webinars I'm preparing. It
> also provides for conferencing.
>
> Rich
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>


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http://sechrest.youcanbookme.com
   .
.
.

  .
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   .
   @sechrest  

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Re: [PLUG] Setting up LAMP on Xubuntu 18.04

2020-04-28 Thread Ben Koenig

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 1:12 PM Dick Steffens  wrote:

> Today's work is done, so I'm going to migrate the last of the stuff from
> ENU-1 to ENU-2, my desktop machines. The next task is installing LAMP on
> ENU-1. I've done this several times over the years, and I don't expect
> to run into any problems.
>
> Except one. A few years ago, in their infinite wisdom, someone decided
> to change MySQL/MariaDB and PHP. A few programs I wrote no longer work.
> They are not important, and I never bothered to upgrade them. There is
> one website I didn't write, but I'm responsible for some of the
> maintenance on it. I used to keep a copy running on my local LAMP
> installation, but it no longer works. Fortunately the ISP host maintains
> the old way. What I'd like to do is use the old way on my fresh LAMP
> installation. What I don't know is how to tell the install tools that I
> want the old way.
>
> Does anyone understand what I'm asking, and know how to do it?
>
>

What do you mean by "old way", are you referring to old versions? You'll
need to provide more specifics about the programs you are running, and
their dependencies. LAMP stacks tend to be supported over very long time
periods so all you need to do is make sure you install the correct packages
from the ubuntu repo, and then bring over your config files.

If you can define what packages were used on the "old" system, someone here
can probably guide you to the newer version.
- Webserver name/version
- MySQL version
- PHP version
- Additional PHP modules

Whatever program you are working with should have a list of dependencies
documented somewhere.

Note that these are just first steps. There are other factors to consider
in terms of your httpd and database setup to actually get it to work and
the internet isn't going to provide you with a clear and concise answer
without a massive amount of information from your end.

> Thanks.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dick Steffens
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Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

2020-04-28 Thread Galen Seitz


On 4/28/20 12:10 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:

On Tue, 28 Apr 2020, John Sechrest wrote:


Just yesterday I was in a conversation about tools and I started a
spreadsheet of different video / remote tools.

So far people have mentioned:


John,

Have you looked at freeconferencecall.com?


I created an account and plan to use it for 3+ webinars I'm preparing. It
also provides for conferencing.


jitsi is also missing from the list.


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Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

2020-04-28 Thread Rich Shepard


On Tue, 28 Apr 2020, John Sechrest wrote:


Just yesterday I was in a conversation about tools and I started a
spreadsheet of different video / remote tools.

So far people have mentioned:


John,

Have you looked at freeconferencecall.com?


I created an account and plan to use it for 3+ webinars I'm preparing. It
also provides for conferencing.

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

2020-04-28 Thread Ben Koenig

Since the list of tools is so large, it might be worth trying them on a
larger time scale. Run a series of talks, each one focusing on a select
number of tools. Someone just needs to manage the list and send out a
notification in advance of the talk to inform participants which tools they
should work on installing.

Each talk could end with an "excerise for the user" which would be to work
on installing the meeting tool required for the next talk. Trying to find
the perfect tool for the job among a sea of options is very intimidating,
even for tech savvy users.

Is anyone here interested in a recurring event to run through all the
options? This would be something that occurs over the next several months.



On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 12:00 PM John Sechrest  wrote:

> As a possible event, you could do a "speed dating" networking event with
> meetaway and have people mingle.
>
> Or to mirror the Lab experience, you could do zoom with breakout rooms. We
> do that weekly now with the 601club.
>
> These would be just social gathering more than topic oriented.
>
> Both are easy to set up.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:58 AM John Sechrest  wrote:
>
> > Just yesterday I was in a conversation about tools and I started a
> > spreadsheet of different video / remote tools.
> >
> > So far people have mentioned:
> >
> > Zoom
> > Kast
> > Crowdcast
> > Slack
> > Google Hangouts
> > Google duo
> > MS Teams
> > discord
> > Wechat
> > Whatsapp
> > Facebook/facetime
> > Kakao
> > Line
> > Youtube live
> > Meetaway
> >
> >
> >
> > It would be interesting to me to know what criteria/features you would
> use
> > to evaluate these.
> >
> > I am trying to run workshops of 25-35 people.
> >
> > And on May13 I have a 250 person event I am trying to run. So I am all
> > ears about how you are thinking about video tools and evaluating them.
> >
> > I just saw a conversation on the facilitators mailing list about the use
> > of Miro and Mural and the bandwidth requirements. So that is also an
> Issue.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 10:29 PM wes  wrote:
> >
> >> I would be interested in seeing this concept get put to work. Could we
> >> consider load-testing various alternative video conferencing tools so we
> >> can get a better sense of their capabilities?
> >>
> >> -wes
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 8:07 PM John Sechrest 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I have been organizing Open Coffee meetings with zoom. It works
> >> reasonably
> >> > well. I have not been able to replace it with other tools yet.
> >> >
> >> > We just this weekend ran a startup weekend remote. The core tool for
> >> that
> >> > was discord.
> >> >
> >> > If you want a text + video experience, that can work.
> >> >
> >> > It helps to have a facilitator with a theme about what they want to
> >> > communicate.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 7:59 PM Michael Dexter 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hello all,
> >> > >
> >> > > PLUG to me is a monthly meeting. The Clinics are great but are not a
> >> way
> >> > > for me to participate in.
> >> > >
> >> > > Would someone like to organize an online activity during the First
> >> > > Thursday time slot? I will drop in as I can as I do have a list of
> >> > > candidate speakers if a rhythm is established.
> >> > >
> >> > > Public and private answers OK!
> >> > >
> >> > > Happy Quarantine!
> >> > >
> >> > > Michael Dexter
> >> > > PLUG Volunteer
> >> > > ___
> >> > > PLUG mailing list
> >> > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> >> > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > John Sechrest  .  Need to schedule a meeting :
> >> > http://sechrest.youcanbookme.com
> >> >.
> >> > .
> >> > .
> >> >
> >> >   .
> >> >  sechr...@gmail.com
> >> >
>   .
> >> >@sechrest  <
> http://www.twitter.com/sechrest>
> >> >
> >> >  .
> >> > http://www.oomaat.com
> >> >.
> >> > ___
> >> > PLUG mailing list
> >> > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> >> > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> >> >
> >> ___
> >> PLUG mailing list
> >> PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > John Sechrest  .  Need to schedule a meeting :
> > http://sechrest.youcanbookme.com
> >.
> > .
> > .
> >
> >   .
> >sechr...@gmail.com
> >.
> >@sechrest  
> >
> >.
> >

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

2020-04-28 Thread John Sechrest

As a possible event, you could do a "speed dating" networking event with
meetaway and have people mingle.

Or to mirror the Lab experience, you could do zoom with breakout rooms. We
do that weekly now with the 601club.

These would be just social gathering more than topic oriented.

Both are easy to set up.



On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:58 AM John Sechrest  wrote:

> Just yesterday I was in a conversation about tools and I started a
> spreadsheet of different video / remote tools.
>
> So far people have mentioned:
>
> Zoom
> Kast
> Crowdcast
> Slack
> Google Hangouts
> Google duo
> MS Teams
> discord
> Wechat
> Whatsapp
> Facebook/facetime
> Kakao
> Line
> Youtube live
> Meetaway
>
>
>
> It would be interesting to me to know what criteria/features you would use
> to evaluate these.
>
> I am trying to run workshops of 25-35 people.
>
> And on May13 I have a 250 person event I am trying to run. So I am all
> ears about how you are thinking about video tools and evaluating them.
>
> I just saw a conversation on the facilitators mailing list about the use
> of Miro and Mural and the bandwidth requirements. So that is also an Issue.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 10:29 PM wes  wrote:
>
>> I would be interested in seeing this concept get put to work. Could we
>> consider load-testing various alternative video conferencing tools so we
>> can get a better sense of their capabilities?
>>
>> -wes
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 8:07 PM John Sechrest  wrote:
>>
>> > I have been organizing Open Coffee meetings with zoom. It works
>> reasonably
>> > well. I have not been able to replace it with other tools yet.
>> >
>> > We just this weekend ran a startup weekend remote. The core tool for
>> that
>> > was discord.
>> >
>> > If you want a text + video experience, that can work.
>> >
>> > It helps to have a facilitator with a theme about what they want to
>> > communicate.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 7:59 PM Michael Dexter 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hello all,
>> > >
>> > > PLUG to me is a monthly meeting. The Clinics are great but are not a
>> way
>> > > for me to participate in.
>> > >
>> > > Would someone like to organize an online activity during the First
>> > > Thursday time slot? I will drop in as I can as I do have a list of
>> > > candidate speakers if a rhythm is established.
>> > >
>> > > Public and private answers OK!
>> > >
>> > > Happy Quarantine!
>> > >
>> > > Michael Dexter
>> > > PLUG Volunteer
>> > > ___
>> > > PLUG mailing list
>> > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
>> > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > John Sechrest  .  Need to schedule a meeting :
>> > http://sechrest.youcanbookme.com
>> >.
>> > .
>> > .
>> >
>> >   .
>> >  sechr...@gmail.com
>> >.
>> >@sechrest  
>> >
>> >  .
>> > http://www.oomaat.com
>> >.
>> > ___
>> > PLUG mailing list
>> > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
>> > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
>> >
>> ___
>> PLUG mailing list
>> PLUG@pdxlinux.org
>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
>>
>
>
> --
> John Sechrest  .  Need to schedule a meeting :
> http://sechrest.youcanbookme.com
>.
> .
> .
>
>   .
>sechr...@gmail.com
>.
>@sechrest  
>
>.
> http://www.oomaat.com
>  .
>


-- 
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http://sechrest.youcanbookme.com
   .
.
.

  .
 sechr...@gmail.com
   .
   @sechrest  

 .
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Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

2020-04-28 Thread John Sechrest

Just yesterday I was in a conversation about tools and I started a
spreadsheet of different video / remote tools.

So far people have mentioned:

Zoom
Kast
Crowdcast
Slack
Google Hangouts
Google duo
MS Teams
discord
Wechat
Whatsapp
Facebook/facetime
Kakao
Line
Youtube live
Meetaway



It would be interesting to me to know what criteria/features you would use
to evaluate these.

I am trying to run workshops of 25-35 people.

And on May13 I have a 250 person event I am trying to run. So I am all ears
about how you are thinking about video tools and evaluating them.

I just saw a conversation on the facilitators mailing list about the use of
Miro and Mural and the bandwidth requirements. So that is also an Issue.



On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 10:29 PM wes  wrote:

> I would be interested in seeing this concept get put to work. Could we
> consider load-testing various alternative video conferencing tools so we
> can get a better sense of their capabilities?
>
> -wes
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 8:07 PM John Sechrest  wrote:
>
> > I have been organizing Open Coffee meetings with zoom. It works
> reasonably
> > well. I have not been able to replace it with other tools yet.
> >
> > We just this weekend ran a startup weekend remote. The core tool for that
> > was discord.
> >
> > If you want a text + video experience, that can work.
> >
> > It helps to have a facilitator with a theme about what they want to
> > communicate.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 7:59 PM Michael Dexter 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > PLUG to me is a monthly meeting. The Clinics are great but are not a
> way
> > > for me to participate in.
> > >
> > > Would someone like to organize an online activity during the First
> > > Thursday time slot? I will drop in as I can as I do have a list of
> > > candidate speakers if a rhythm is established.
> > >
> > > Public and private answers OK!
> > >
> > > Happy Quarantine!
> > >
> > > Michael Dexter
> > > PLUG Volunteer
> > > ___
> > > PLUG mailing list
> > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > John Sechrest  .  Need to schedule a meeting :
> > http://sechrest.youcanbookme.com
> >.
> > .
> > .
> >
> >   .
> >  sechr...@gmail.com
> >.
> >@sechrest  
> >
> >  .
> > http://www.oomaat.com
> >.
> > ___
> > PLUG mailing list
> > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> >
> ___
> PLUG mailing list
> PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
>


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http://sechrest.youcanbookme.com
   .
.
.

  .
 sechr...@gmail.com
   .
   @sechrest  

 .
http://www.oomaat.com
   .
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Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

2020-04-28 Thread Michael Dexter


On 4/27/20 10:28 PM, wes wrote:

I would be interested in seeing this concept get put to work. Could we
consider load-testing various alternative video conferencing tools so we
can get a better sense of their capabilities?


Sounds like we have two volunteers!

Let me know how I can help.

Michael
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