Re: [PLUG] Frontier FiOS Installation
Yup, and no amount of begging gets them to change how my connection is. On 7/20/18, 13:47, "Rich Shepard" wrote: On Fri, 20 Jul 2018, Russell Johnson wrote: > I've had FiOS since before Verizon sold them. They set mine up slightly > differently. And, I've had the service since late last October. Like Jim's installation The external OTN comes in the house as copper for the phone and Ethernet for the 'Net. The installer offered a wireless router, but I pointed out that I have one of those (set up as a WAP) and the Linksys and Ubiquiti routers so I passed on his offer. Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Frontier FiOS Installation
On 7/20/2018 1:23 PM, Russell Johnson wrote: > I've had FiOS since before Verizon sold them. They set mine up slightly > differently. > > The OTN converts to coax, and that is converted to ethernet with a > transceiver inside the house. That transceiver has a very small amount of > memory. If you have a larger than average number of devices for a household, > the NAT table will overrun its buffer, causing the transceiver to fail. > Rebooting brings it back, until the buffer fills again. > > My fix was to put the transceiver in passthrough and use a router between it > and rest of my network. This works, but I have an extra device and an extra > translation of the signal. > > Oh, and Verizon/Frontier support, both of them, told me the transceiver could > not be put in passthrough mode. Yeah, I don't have a transciever, I get a routable 50.x.x.x IP address directly off the ethernet cable, no NAT involved. Without the consumer- grade modem/router I'm not vulnerable to the exploits currently affecting a lot of such hardware/firmware. I trust my Linux/iptables firewall/router a lot more :-) ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Frontier FiOS Installation
On Fri, 20 Jul 2018, Russell Johnson wrote: I've had FiOS since before Verizon sold them. They set mine up slightly differently. And, I've had the service since late last October. Like Jim's installation The external OTN comes in the house as copper for the phone and Ethernet for the 'Net. The installer offered a wireless router, but I pointed out that I have one of those (set up as a WAP) and the Linksys and Ubiquiti routers so I passed on his offer. Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Frontier FiOS Installation
I've had FiOS since before Verizon sold them. They set mine up slightly differently. The OTN converts to coax, and that is converted to ethernet with a transceiver inside the house. That transceiver has a very small amount of memory. If you have a larger than average number of devices for a household, the NAT table will overrun its buffer, causing the transceiver to fail. Rebooting brings it back, until the buffer fills again. My fix was to put the transceiver in passthrough and use a router between it and rest of my network. This works, but I have an extra device and an extra translation of the signal. Oh, and Verizon/Frontier support, both of them, told me the transceiver could not be put in passthrough mode. On 7/20/18, 11:33, "Jim Garrison" wrote: Back in April I asked the following question: > I'm considering dumping Comcast and going with Frontier FiOS. > I have a couple of questions for anyone who's using FiOS in the > Hillsboro, OR area. > > 1) Do they bring fiber all the way to the modem or is there >an interface outside that converts to coax for the internal >connections? > > 2) Can you run the modem in bridge mode? I have my own Linux >iptables-based firewall/router and my own wireless AP >and would prefer that the modem be a passive device. >While Comcast doesn't "officially" support bridge mode they >allow full access to the modem config and it works fine >in bridge mode. I got a couple of answers that were somewhat helpful. I just completed this transition and thought I'd share the outcome. The answer to the first question is, as both respondents noted, that they terminate the fiber at an OTN box outside the house. The OTN has two outputs, a twisted pair phone line that hooks directly to the house phone wiring, and ethernet that provides a "raw" IP connection. In other words, you don't actually need a modem, you already get ethernet direct to the Internet. So if, like me, you have your own local network with a Linux firewall/router, the second question is moot. There's no device between you and the Internet, as there is with cable. To be pedantic, the device is the OTN but it doesn't do routing, filtering, proxying or anything else, it only converts from optical to copper. I'm getting the 150mbps download AND UPLOAD speeds promised (25x Comcast upload speed) so for now I'm a happy camper :-) ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Frontier FiOS Installation
Back in April I asked the following question: > I'm considering dumping Comcast and going with Frontier FiOS. > I have a couple of questions for anyone who's using FiOS in the > Hillsboro, OR area. > > 1) Do they bring fiber all the way to the modem or is there >an interface outside that converts to coax for the internal >connections? > > 2) Can you run the modem in bridge mode? I have my own Linux >iptables-based firewall/router and my own wireless AP >and would prefer that the modem be a passive device. >While Comcast doesn't "officially" support bridge mode they >allow full access to the modem config and it works fine >in bridge mode. I got a couple of answers that were somewhat helpful. I just completed this transition and thought I'd share the outcome. The answer to the first question is, as both respondents noted, that they terminate the fiber at an OTN box outside the house. The OTN has two outputs, a twisted pair phone line that hooks directly to the house phone wiring, and ethernet that provides a "raw" IP connection. In other words, you don't actually need a modem, you already get ethernet direct to the Internet. So if, like me, you have your own local network with a Linux firewall/router, the second question is moot. There's no device between you and the Internet, as there is with cable. To be pedantic, the device is the OTN but it doesn't do routing, filtering, proxying or anything else, it only converts from optical to copper. I'm getting the 150mbps download AND UPLOAD speeds promised (25x Comcast upload speed) so for now I'm a happy camper :-) ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
