[PLUG] Having trouble with MS-DFS still...

2018-04-03 Thread michael
I tried googling for MS-DFS client and got a ton of information about 
setting up Samba as a DFS server, but nothing about being a client.

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Re: [PLUG] Having trouble with MS-DFS still...

2018-04-03 Thread Tyrell Jentink
I'm not convinced there IS anything different on the client side... The
whole point of DFS seems to be to abstract away all of the client side
complications that come with multiple SMB servers in an Enterprise. In
other words... It appears to be an entirely server-side solution.

OK, I am going to have to suggest a very not-Unix next step: You're gonna
have to set up a Windows Server lab...

I have a Windows Server 2008 license lying around, and I know Microsoft
offers free trial WS2008 images on their website, so this is going to be
focused on that... Although, I'm sure Google can help find similar guides
for other Windows versions...

First, here's a nice Microsoft blog introducing the idea at hand:
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/josebda/2009/03/10/the-basics-of-the-windows-server-2008-distributed-file-system-dfs/

Then read the TechNet:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc753479.aspx

Then use this step-by-step to setup a virtual swarm of Windows servers:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/windows/it-pro/windows-server-2003/cc737358(v=ws.10)

Then set up a nice clean Windows 8 install with a free trial license, and
connect to it... My GUESS is that it will connect exactly the same as it
would to a single server... I may also expect the client to connect to the
individual "Target folders" directly if they so choose... I don't know how
to block them.

Once you confirm that works... Then set up a nice clean Linux image and
repeat the tests. I would expect it to also connect without noticable
difference to connecting to a single SMB server. You may also be able to
connect to individual "Target Shares" directly. Again, no idea how to block
that...

I would try it all myself, cuz this looks kinda neat, but I don't like the
idea of using Windows in a production environment, so I guess it doesn't
look REALLY neat... So it's hard to motivate myself :/

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018, 07:48 michael  wrote:

> I tried googling for MS-DFS client and got a ton of information about
> setting up Samba as a DFS server, but nothing about being a client.
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Re: [PLUG] Having trouble with MS-DFS still...

2018-04-04 Thread michael
I have one instance of Windows Server 2012 R2 180 day trial running in 
Virtualbox

on top of CentOS 7.

Do I need two to three instances of Windows 2012 R2 to implement DFS 
properly?


There are plenty of Windows 10 computers in the office, can the DFS 
server reference

a single share across two Windows 10 systems?

Do I need to bridge Windows Server 2012 R2 or is the default NAT that 
virtual box
does good enough?  Can I set a different IP address when I bridge?  The 
Linux box is
on 192.168.1.2, I don't want the Windows Server to share that IP 
address.  I want the

Windows box to be on 192.168.1.xxx.

How do I implement Active directory?  I apparently have to use Active 
directory if I'm

going to implement MS-DFS.

Other than that, can I use a samba server to replace a Windows server if 
I have to have

multiple servers?
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Re: [PLUG] Having trouble with MS-DFS still...

2018-04-04 Thread Tyrell Jentink
On Wed, Apr 4, 2018, 11:08 michael  wrote:

> I have one instance of Windows Server 2012 R2 180 day trial running in
> Virtualbox
> on top of CentOS 7.
>

That should work...

Do I need two to three instances of Windows 2012 R2 to implement DFS
> properly?


Probably not for the tests you are running... I mean, replication is
probably Windows Server only, but that's not critical to verifying that
Samba clients can connect...

There are plenty of Windows 10 computers in the office, can the DFS
> server reference
> a single share across two Windows 10 systems?
>

Probably...? I didn't see anything that specifies any requirements of the
Target folders.  If you aren't using replication, I don't even see a reason
why a Samba server can't be a Target... Of course, one could simply try...

Do I need to bridge Windows Server 2012 R2 or is the default NAT that
> virtual box
> does good enough?  Can I set a different IP address when I bridge?  The
> Linux box is
> on 192.168.1.2, I don't want the Windows Server to share that IP
> address.  I want the
> Windows box to be on 192.168.1.xxx.
>

The clients have to be able to ping the DFS server. I imagine it could be
done despite NAT, but I would want everyone on the same subnet, same
broadcast domain, same NAT layer...

How do I implement Active directory?  I apparently have to use Active
> directory if I'm
> going to implement MS-DFS.
>

I don't think that Active Directory is a strict requirement... The example
in the How To is in Directory mode, but it says a Stand-Alone mode is
available...

On the other hand... If the original system in question is in
ActiveDirectory, then all of the clients will have to be in ActiveDirectory
as well, and that may be part of your problem...

Other than that, can I use a samba server to replace a Windows server if
> I have to have
> multiple servers?
>

I think that's what the server oriented discussion on the aforementioned
Samba wikis was talking about...
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