Re: [PLUG] Upgrading Garmin GPS firmware

[elcaseti]

The tricky part, if I remember correctly, is that those OSM maps &
instructions for the older Garmins are out of date.  Garmin has stopped
using that software to interface with the devices, & replaced it with a
very different program.  Probably still doable, but we have to figure out
how to make it work by trial & error.

On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 7:50 AM Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> On Mon, 9 Nov 2020, Rich Shepard wrote:
>
> > Take a look at this page: .
>
> There are more resources, including on the OSM wiki. A web search for
> "openstreetmap on garmin" finds abundant information on obtaining OSM maps
> in Garmin format.
>
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Re: [PLUG] Upgrading Garmin GPS firmware

[Rich Shepard]

On Mon, 9 Nov 2020, Rich Shepard wrote:


Take a look at this page: .


There are more resources, including on the OSM wiki. A web search for
"openstreetmap on garmin" finds abundant information on obtaining OSM maps
in Garmin format.

Regards,

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Re: [PLUG] Upgrading Garmin GPS firmware

[Rich Shepard]

On Mon, 12 Oct 2020, elcaseti wrote:


On a related note, I'd like to try installing Openstreetmap on my Garmin
1350, if I can find good instructions on how to do that. That's the only
way to keep most of their maps updated without paying Garmin some crazy
amount of $ each time you update the map.


Take a look at this page: .

Stay well,

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Re: [PLUG] Upgrading Garmin GPS firmware

[elcaseti]

On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 3:17 PM Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Oct 2020, elcaseti wrote:
>
> > I'll be interested to hear how well that works without using the Windows
> > GUI.
>
> There are two different actions we're discussing. Firmware upgrades are
> done
> from the console, or a DOS 'window' in Microsoft-world. It's been a few y
> years since I did this but I boot the laptop from the DOS-formated flash
> drive which has (I think) DOS-6.x installed. Then I run the firmware .exe
> file with the GPS attached to another USB port. I'll check the details
> before doing this, of course.
>
> > Ja, from what I've read, an SD card is usually what you store the OSM map
> > on. It's unclear whether or not you can use more than one country map (or
> > in the USA, more than one state). If it turns out to be a big hassle to
> > switch between the Washington state & Oregon OSM map on Garmin, then I'll
> > probably go back to using my very out of date (~2010) Garmin map.
>
> Map upgrades usually can be done using only the Garmin Camp GUI. And we
> need
> to pay for it.
>
> Perhaps multistate OSM maps can be put in separate diretories on the SD
> card
> and selected when the GPS is turned on. Haven't tried this, though.
>

As I understand it, the main reason for  using OSM maps on a Garmin is to
have free up to date maps.  I hope you're right about putting maps in
different directories & then selecting the map you want at boot time.  That
would be awesome!

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Re: [PLUG] Upgrading Garmin GPS firmware

[Rich Shepard]

On Mon, 12 Oct 2020, elcaseti wrote:


I'll be interested to hear how well that works without using the Windows
GUI.


There are two different actions we're discussing. Firmware upgrades are done
from the console, or a DOS 'window' in Microsoft-world. It's been a few y
years since I did this but I boot the laptop from the DOS-formated flash
drive which has (I think) DOS-6.x installed. Then I run the firmware .exe
file with the GPS attached to another USB port. I'll check the details
before doing this, of course.


Ja, from what I've read, an SD card is usually what you store the OSM map
on. It's unclear whether or not you can use more than one country map (or
in the USA, more than one state). If it turns out to be a big hassle to
switch between the Washington state & Oregon OSM map on Garmin, then I'll
probably go back to using my very out of date (~2010) Garmin map.


Map upgrades usually can be done using only the Garmin Camp GUI. And we need
to pay for it.

Perhaps multistate OSM maps can be put in separate diretories on the SD card
and selected when the GPS is turned on. Haven't tried this, though.

Regards,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Upgrading Garmin GPS firmware

[elcaseti]

On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 12:00 PM Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Oct 2020, elcaseti wrote:
>
> > I think using WINE to upgrade the firmware carries a risk of bricking
> > them. Your best bet is to install Windows on bare metal & use that to
> > update the firmware.
>
> I'll boot a laptop into DOS from the flash drive and upgrade the Garmin
> system firmware that way.
>

I'll be interested to hear how well that works without using the Windows
GUI.

>
> > On a related note, I'd like to try installing Openstreetmap on my Garmin
> > 1350, if I can find good instructions on how to do that. That's the only
> > way to keep most of their maps updated without paying Garmin some crazy
> > amount of $ each time you update the map.
>
> I recall reading somewhere that this can be done, at least on the Nuvi 255W
> and related receivers. When I have time I'll look for this again. A few
> times my 2009-vintage map doesn't have the streets built since then. OSM
> should work on an SD card.
>

Ja, from what I've read, an SD card is usually what you store the OSM map
on.  It's unclear whether or not you can use more than one country map (or
in the USA, more than one state).  If it turns out to be a big hassle to
switch between the Washington state & Oregon OSM map on Garmin, then I'll
probably go back to using my very out of date (~2010) Garmin map.

Skal!

>
> Stay well,
>
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Re: [PLUG] Upgrading Garmin GPS firmware

[Rich Shepard]

On Mon, 12 Oct 2020, elcaseti wrote:


I think using WINE to upgrade the firmware carries a risk of bricking
them. Your best bet is to install Windows on bare metal & use that to
update the firmware.


I'll boot a laptop into DOS from the flash drive and upgrade the Garmin
system firmware that way.


On a related note, I'd like to try installing Openstreetmap on my Garmin
1350, if I can find good instructions on how to do that. That's the only
way to keep most of their maps updated without paying Garmin some crazy
amount of $ each time you update the map.


I recall reading somewhere that this can be done, at least on the Nuvi 255W
and related receivers. When I have time I'll look for this again. A few
times my 2009-vintage map doesn't have the streets built since then. OSM
should work on an SD card.

Stay well,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Upgrading Garmin GPS firmware

[elcaseti]

I have a small collection of Garmin GPS devices that I really like to use.
I've bought all of them used over the years, mostly at thrift stores for
~$5.00 each.  I think using WINE to upgrade the firmware carries a risk of
bricking them.  Your best bet is to install Windows on bare metal & use
that to update the firmware.
On a related note, I'd like to try installing Openstreetmap on my Garmin
1350, if I can find good instructions on how to do that.  That's the only
way to keep most of their maps updated without paying Garmin some crazy
amount of $ each time you update the map.

On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 10:04 AM Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> Garmin provides only Windoze and Mac packages to upgrade firmware on their
> GPS receivers.
>
> Does anyone know if this works with wine?
>
> I think I have a version of DOS on a flash drive for this situation, but no
> longer have the little Dell 2100 that I could boot into that (after copying
> the .exe file to it).
>
> I'm open to all suggestions.
>
> Stay well,
>
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[PLUG] Upgrading Garmin GPS firmware

[Rich Shepard]

Garmin provides only Windoze and Mac packages to upgrade firmware on their
GPS receivers.

Does anyone know if this works with wine?

I think I have a version of DOS on a flash drive for this situation, but no
longer have the little Dell 2100 that I could boot into that (after copying
the .exe file to it).

I'm open to all suggestions.

Stay well,

Rich
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