Re: [PLUG] Susan on plug list...
I found an option to set new subscribers to moderated by default, but nothing about removing the moderation after some number of approvals. -wes On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:06 PM Michael Barnes wrote: > On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:12 PM wes wrote: > > > Do you recall where that option is set? > > > > -wes > > > > On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 4:46 PM Michael Barnes > > wrote: > > > > > I haven't worked with mailman in some time. Other lists that I manage > > allow > > > me to set an initial moderation of new subscribers. Most of my lists > have > > > this set at 2, but I did set one list at 5 after having a few issues. > > > Basically, any new subscribers have their first 2 posts moderated > > > (approved) before they go to the list membership. This has served well > to > > > prevent these types of situations. Once the initial moderation is met, > > the > > > users messages flow through to the list. It has been very successful in > > > weeding out the occasional oddity. > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 1, 2019, 12:11 wes wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 11:49 AM Rich Shepard < > rshep...@appl-ecosys.com > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 1 Oct 2019, wes wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I locked down the spammer's address immediately after the spam > was > > > > sent. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Wes. > > > > > > > > > > > If the frequency of this continues to increase, we may need to > look > > > > into > > > > > > stronger verifications prior to admission to the list. > > > > > > > > > > This has been only the second, or third, time this list has been > > > spammed. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rich > > > > > > > > > > > > > > True, but all instances have been relatively recent. I'm not sure > what > > > the > > > > appropriate threshold should be, but I feel like twice in a month > would > > > be > > > > a reasonable time to evaluate. > > > > > > > > -wes > > > > My apologies. I wasn't clear. I haven't used mailman in some time. The > lists I manage these days are all hosted on groups.io. It has a great web > interface and subscriptions are basically self-service. I don't have to > keep up with the server management like I did hosting mailman. I know there > are a lot of features in mailman, and I used to have some lists that were > fully moderated, but that got to be a lot of work as the list got busy. I > don't know if the current versions of mailman have an initial moderation > option for new subscribers or not. That would probably be a question for > the mailman support forum. > > Michael > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Susan on plug list...
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:12 PM wes wrote: > Do you recall where that option is set? > > -wes > > On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 4:46 PM Michael Barnes > wrote: > > > I haven't worked with mailman in some time. Other lists that I manage > allow > > me to set an initial moderation of new subscribers. Most of my lists have > > this set at 2, but I did set one list at 5 after having a few issues. > > Basically, any new subscribers have their first 2 posts moderated > > (approved) before they go to the list membership. This has served well to > > prevent these types of situations. Once the initial moderation is met, > the > > users messages flow through to the list. It has been very successful in > > weeding out the occasional oddity. > > > > Michael > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 1, 2019, 12:11 wes wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 11:49 AM Rich Shepard > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, 1 Oct 2019, wes wrote: > > > > > > > > > I locked down the spammer's address immediately after the spam was > > > sent. > > > > > > > > Thanks, Wes. > > > > > > > > > If the frequency of this continues to increase, we may need to look > > > into > > > > > stronger verifications prior to admission to the list. > > > > > > > > This has been only the second, or third, time this list has been > > spammed. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Rich > > > > > > > > > > > True, but all instances have been relatively recent. I'm not sure what > > the > > > appropriate threshold should be, but I feel like twice in a month would > > be > > > a reasonable time to evaluate. > > > > > > -wes > My apologies. I wasn't clear. I haven't used mailman in some time. The lists I manage these days are all hosted on groups.io. It has a great web interface and subscriptions are basically self-service. I don't have to keep up with the server management like I did hosting mailman. I know there are a lot of features in mailman, and I used to have some lists that were fully moderated, but that got to be a lot of work as the list got busy. I don't know if the current versions of mailman have an initial moderation option for new subscribers or not. That would probably be a question for the mailman support forum. Michael ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Susan on plug list...
Do you recall where that option is set? -wes On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 4:46 PM Michael Barnes wrote: > I haven't worked with mailman in some time. Other lists that I manage allow > me to set an initial moderation of new subscribers. Most of my lists have > this set at 2, but I did set one list at 5 after having a few issues. > Basically, any new subscribers have their first 2 posts moderated > (approved) before they go to the list membership. This has served well to > prevent these types of situations. Once the initial moderation is met, the > users messages flow through to the list. It has been very successful in > weeding out the occasional oddity. > > Michael > > > On Tue, Oct 1, 2019, 12:11 wes wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 11:49 AM Rich Shepard > > wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 1 Oct 2019, wes wrote: > > > > > > > I locked down the spammer's address immediately after the spam was > > sent. > > > > > > Thanks, Wes. > > > > > > > If the frequency of this continues to increase, we may need to look > > into > > > > stronger verifications prior to admission to the list. > > > > > > This has been only the second, or third, time this list has been > spammed. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rich > > > > > > > > True, but all instances have been relatively recent. I'm not sure what > the > > appropriate threshold should be, but I feel like twice in a month would > be > > a reasonable time to evaluate. > > > > -wes > > ___ > > PLUG mailing list > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Susan on plug list...
I haven't worked with mailman in some time. Other lists that I manage allow me to set an initial moderation of new subscribers. Most of my lists have this set at 2, but I did set one list at 5 after having a few issues. Basically, any new subscribers have their first 2 posts moderated (approved) before they go to the list membership. This has served well to prevent these types of situations. Once the initial moderation is met, the users messages flow through to the list. It has been very successful in weeding out the occasional oddity. Michael On Tue, Oct 1, 2019, 12:11 wes wrote: > On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 11:49 AM Rich Shepard > wrote: > > > On Tue, 1 Oct 2019, wes wrote: > > > > > I locked down the spammer's address immediately after the spam was > sent. > > > > Thanks, Wes. > > > > > If the frequency of this continues to increase, we may need to look > into > > > stronger verifications prior to admission to the list. > > > > This has been only the second, or third, time this list has been spammed. > > > > Regards, > > > > Rich > > > > > True, but all instances have been relatively recent. I'm not sure what the > appropriate threshold should be, but I feel like twice in a month would be > a reasonable time to evaluate. > > -wes > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Susan on plug list...
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 11:49 AM Rich Shepard wrote: > On Tue, 1 Oct 2019, wes wrote: > > > I locked down the spammer's address immediately after the spam was sent. > > Thanks, Wes. > > > If the frequency of this continues to increase, we may need to look into > > stronger verifications prior to admission to the list. > > This has been only the second, or third, time this list has been spammed. > > Regards, > > Rich > > True, but all instances have been relatively recent. I'm not sure what the appropriate threshold should be, but I feel like twice in a month would be a reasonable time to evaluate. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Susan on plug list...
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019, wes wrote: I locked down the spammer's address immediately after the spam was sent. Thanks, Wes. If the frequency of this continues to increase, we may need to look into stronger verifications prior to admission to the list. This has been only the second, or third, time this list has been spammed. Regards, Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Susan on plug list...
I locked down the spammer's address immediately after the spam was sent. If the frequency of this continues to increase, we may need to look into stronger verifications prior to admission to the list. -wes On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 9:44 AM wrote: > Yesterday, I saw three messages on plug list that were very provocative. I > use plug because I am a computer scientist and I have an expectation that > sexually provocative messages won't be there. I believe Susan is in the > archive for yesterday 3 times. I am formally requesting that her comments > which seemed very direct be removed from the archive. I have a problem with > her hey sweetie prove to me that you are real and her, I have a husband so > don't respond to me here. A decent man might complain a bit, but not be > affected in any way. Frankly, the comments are suggestive and creepy too. > The terms of use should bar sexually suggestive comments on plug. If they > don't, I will have to find another list that will moderate this out. At > best the comments are a crude and inappropriate joke. At worst, someone is > trying to create a problem for me specifically or men on the list more > generally. Meanwhile, I need to see about engaging squid again with a url > list of anything that opendns w! > on't filt > er out that I can't forget. I disengaged squid and dansguardian because > they weren't working well and my hard drive was filling up. > > -- Michael C. Robinson > > Apologies for putting this on the list, I can't reach the list manager. > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Susan on plug list...
Wes, Joey, Thoughts on this? I leave the lists to them. Michael Dexter PLUG Volunteer On 10/1/19 9:41 AM, mich...@robinson-west.com wrote: Yesterday, I saw three messages on plug list that were very provocative. I use plug because I am a computer scientist and I have an expectation that sexually provocative messages won't be there. I believe Susan is in the archive for yesterday 3 times. I am formally requesting that her comments which seemed very direct be removed from the archive. I have a problem with her hey sweetie prove to me that you are real and her, I have a husband so don't respond to me here. A decent man might complain a bit, but not be affected in any way. Frankly, the comments are suggestive and creepy too. The terms of use should bar sexually suggestive comments on plug. If they don't, I will have to find another list that will moderate this out. At best the comments are a crude and inappropriate joke. At worst, someone is trying to create a problem for me specifically or men on the list more generally. Meanwhile, I need to see about engaging squid again with a url list of anything that opendns! won't fi lter out that I can't forget. I disengaged squid and dansguardian because they weren't working well and my hard drive was filling up. -- Michael C. Robinson Apologies for putting this on the list, I can't reach the list manager. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Susan on plug list...
Sorry for my typo. Meant to write: Those were spam emails, not an actual person. On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 9:47 AM elcaseti . wrote: > Susan doesn't exist. Those were spam emails, not an actuarial person. > > On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 9:41 AM wrote: > >> Yesterday, I saw three messages on plug list that were very provocative. >> I use plug because I am a computer scientist and I have an expectation that >> sexually provocative messages won't be there. I believe Susan is in the >> archive for yesterday 3 times. I am formally requesting that her comments >> which seemed very direct be removed from the archive. I have a problem with >> her hey sweetie prove to me that you are real and her, I have a husband so >> don't respond to me here. A decent man might complain a bit, but not be >> affected in any way. Frankly, the comments are suggestive and creepy too. >> The terms of use should bar sexually suggestive comments on plug. If they >> don't, I will have to find another list that will moderate this out. At >> best the comments are a crude and inappropriate joke. At worst, someone is >> trying to create a problem for me specifically or men on the list more >> generally. Meanwhile, I need to see about engaging squid again with a url >> list of anything that opendns w! >> on't filt >> er out that I can't forget. I disengaged squid and dansguardian because >> they weren't working well and my hard drive was filling up. >> >> -- Michael C. Robinson >> >> Apologies for putting this on the list, I can't reach the list manager. >> ___ >> PLUG mailing list >> PLUG@pdxlinux.org >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Susan on plug list...
Susan doesn't exist. Those were spam emails, not an actuarial person. On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 9:41 AM wrote: > Yesterday, I saw three messages on plug list that were very provocative. I > use plug because I am a computer scientist and I have an expectation that > sexually provocative messages won't be there. I believe Susan is in the > archive for yesterday 3 times. I am formally requesting that her comments > which seemed very direct be removed from the archive. I have a problem with > her hey sweetie prove to me that you are real and her, I have a husband so > don't respond to me here. A decent man might complain a bit, but not be > affected in any way. Frankly, the comments are suggestive and creepy too. > The terms of use should bar sexually suggestive comments on plug. If they > don't, I will have to find another list that will moderate this out. At > best the comments are a crude and inappropriate joke. At worst, someone is > trying to create a problem for me specifically or men on the list more > generally. Meanwhile, I need to see about engaging squid again with a url > list of anything that opendns w! > on't filt > er out that I can't forget. I disengaged squid and dansguardian because > they weren't working well and my hard drive was filling up. > > -- Michael C. Robinson > > Apologies for putting this on the list, I can't reach the list manager. > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
