Re: Can mySQL and MSSQL coexist on the same server peacefully?
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com wrote: Topher Fischer wrote: Not to be too nit-picky or anything (I'm too young to turn into another Stuart!), but could you please figure out why your replies to the list are always jumping out of their thread? They don't seem to have either an 'in-reply-to' or 'references' field in their headers. Maybe I'm the one with the broken mail client, and I should be fixing something. But I'm pretty sure it's not me. Is it? Even with Thunderbird's broken thread-handling (it will often use subjects to thread inappropriately), Sasha's emails break the threads, so it appears to be a references problem. Gmail gets it right :P -- justin http://justinhileman.com /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
Re: Can mySQL and MSSQL coexist on the same server peacefully?
On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 12:13 -0500, justin wrote: Gmail gets it right :P By that standard, IE6 was the best browser ever. -- XML is like violence: if it doesn't solve your problem, you aren't using enough of it. - Chris Maden /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
Re: Can mySQL and MSSQL coexist on the same server peacefully?
Michael Torrie wrote: Even with Thunderbird's broken thread-handling (it will often use subjects to thread inappropriately), Sasha's emails break the threads, so it appears to be a references problem. I don't have a problem with Sasha's emails jumping out of thread, and I'm using IceDove on Debian unstable. Everything is in it's right place, as it should be. Maybe they've patched something that hasn't been accepting upstream, as I certainly haven't changed anything in the config editor either. -- . O . O . O . . O O . . . O . . . O . O O O . O . O O . . O O O O . O . . O O O O . O O O signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
Re: Can mySQL and MSSQL coexist on the same server peacefully?
On 12/05/2009 03:12 PM, Sasha Pachev wrote: Right. Like you said, one of the main reasons that one chooses an Enterprise DB (over some community developed one) is the support. It's totally reassuring that you can pick up the phone and get someone with the serious technical expertise needed to get things working again. Not to mention, they'll have access to internal KBs that nobody else does. Heck, they might even have access to the source code and be able to take it line by line until they find your problem. You can't put a price on that kind of support. I usually stay low-key about promoting my business but this was too tempting to pass up since you wrote a perfect marketing line. AskSasha.Com offers all of the above with respect to MySQL and the prices are reasonable. Sasha, Not to be too nit-picky or anything (I'm too young to turn into another Stuart!), but could you please figure out why your replies to the list are always jumping out of their thread? They don't seem to have either an 'in-reply-to' or 'references' field in their headers. Maybe I'm the one with the broken mail client, and I should be fixing something. But I'm pretty sure it's not me. Is it? --Topher /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
Re: Can mySQL and MSSQL coexist on the same server peacefully?
Topher Fischer wrote: Not to be too nit-picky or anything (I'm too young to turn into another Stuart!), but could you please figure out why your replies to the list are always jumping out of their thread? They don't seem to have either an 'in-reply-to' or 'references' field in their headers. Maybe I'm the one with the broken mail client, and I should be fixing something. But I'm pretty sure it's not me. Is it? Even with Thunderbird's broken thread-handling (it will often use subjects to thread inappropriately), Sasha's emails break the threads, so it appears to be a references problem. /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
Re: Can mySQL and MSSQL coexist on the same server peacefully?
Right. Like you said, one of the main reasons that one chooses an Enterprise DB (over some community developed one) is the support. It's totally reassuring that you can pick up the phone and get someone with the serious technical expertise needed to get things working again. Not to mention, they'll have access to internal KBs that nobody else does. Heck, they might even have access to the source code and be able to take it line by line until they find your problem. You can't put a price on that kind of support. I usually stay low-key about promoting my business but this was too tempting to pass up since you wrote a perfect marketing line. AskSasha.Com offers all of the above with respect to MySQL and the prices are reasonable. -- Sasha Pachev AskSasha Linux Consulting http://asksasha.com Fast Running Blog. http://fastrunningblog.com Run. Blog. Improve. Repeat. /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
Re: Can mySQL and MSSQL coexist on the same server peacefully?
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Sasha Pachev sa...@asksasha.com wrote: Right. Like you said, one of the main reasons that one chooses an Enterprise DB (over some community developed one) is the support. It's totally reassuring that you can pick up the phone and get someone with the serious technical expertise needed to get things working again. Not to mention, they'll have access to internal KBs that nobody else does. Heck, they might even have access to the source code and be able to take it line by line until they find your problem. You can't put a price on that kind of support. I usually stay low-key about promoting my business but this was too tempting to pass up since you wrote a perfect marketing line. AskSasha.Com offers all of the above with respect to MySQL and the prices are reasonable. Sure, but can I run MySQL under Wine? I doubt it *and* no thanks anyway! For my money, it's MSSQL. Gabe /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
Re: Can mySQL and MSSQL coexist on the same server peacefully?
Gabriel Gunderson wrote: On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Sasha Pachev sa...@asksasha.com wrote: AskSasha.Com offers all of the above with respect to MySQL and the prices are reasonable. Sure, but can I run MySQL under Wine? I doubt it *and* no thanks anyway! For my money, it's MSSQL. Right. And as long as MS never finds out you're not actually running their product on Windows you can enjoy all of the benefits of MS's wonderful support for their reliable products. So reliable you'll never have to use support. Or is is that support is so bad you can never use it... can't remember. /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
Re: Can mySQL and MSSQL coexist on the same server peacefully?
Certainly, as long as the box has enough resources to support both servers. On Fri, December 4, 2009 12:14 pm, Jeff Moyes wrote: All, Dumb question and i should know the answer - can you have multiple DBMSes running at the same time on the same server? (I would think yes with possibly the proviso that they are listening on different ports?) I'm doing a project for someone who has a co-located windows box that runs multiple sites using IIS and MSSQL but we're looking at installing a new web app that requires mySQL. Can we keep the existing site on the IIS+MSSQL and have it peacefully coexist with IIS+mySQL? Any help would be appreciated Jeff /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */ -- Matthew Walker Kydance Hosting Consulting, Inc. - http://www.kydance.net/ PHP, Perl, and Web Development - Linux Server Administration /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
Re: Can mySQL and MSSQL coexist on the same server peacefully?
Jeff Moyes wrote: All, Dumb question and i should know the answer - can you have multiple DBMSes running at the same time on the same server? (I would think yes with possibly the proviso that they are listening on different ports?) I didn't know MSSQL could run on Linux. I'm doing a project for someone who has a co-located windows box that runs multiple sites using IIS and MSSQL but we're looking at installing a new web app that requires mySQL. Can we keep the existing site on the IIS+MSSQL and have it peacefully coexist with IIS+mySQL? I host MySQL and PostgreSQL on the same box. I'm not sure anything can peacefully coexist with IIS. But yes, IIS and MSSQL should be able to handle MySQL as well on the same box. /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
Re: Can mySQL and MSSQL coexist on the same server peacefully?
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't know MSSQL could run on Linux. Michael, you should know better. I run MSSQL Server IIS using wine on Linux all the time - it runs wonderfully well. The performance is really impressive and it's nice to have Enterprise database and webserver options that work well on Linux. I'll write up some documentation and post it for those who might be interested. Gabe /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
Re: Can mySQL and MSSQL coexist on the same server peacefully?
On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 14:31 -0700, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't know MSSQL could run on Linux. Michael, you should know better. I run MSSQL Server IIS using wine on Linux all the time - it runs wonderfully well. The performance is really impressive and it's nice to have Enterprise database and webserver options that work well on Linux. I'll write up some documentation and post it for those who might be interested. Okay, good one. You got me. At least I hope you're kidding. You are kidding, aren't you? Please say you're just kidding! -- XML is like violence: if it doesn't solve your problem, you aren't using enough of it. - Chris Maden /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
Re: Can mySQL and MSSQL coexist on the same server peacefully?
On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:42:30 -0700 Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't know MSSQL could run on Linux. At least as well as it does on Windows. -- Charles Curley /\ASCII Ribbon Campaign Looking for fine software \ /Respect for open standards and/or writing? X No HTML/RTF in email http://www.charlescurley.com/ \No M$ Word docs in email Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
Re: Can mySQL and MSSQL coexist on the same server peacefully?
Stuart Jansen wrote: On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 14:31 -0700, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't know MSSQL could run on Linux. Michael, you should know better. I run MSSQL Server IIS using wine on Linux all the time - it runs wonderfully well. The performance is really impressive and it's nice to have Enterprise database and webserver options that work well on Linux. I'll write up some documentation and post it for those who might be interested. Okay, good one. You got me. At least I hope you're kidding. You are kidding, aren't you? Please say you're just kidding! Lurkers everywhere would like to hear the answer to this one. :-) Shane /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
Re: Can mySQL and MSSQL coexist on the same server peacefully?
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Shane Hathaway sh...@hathawaymix.org wrote: Stuart Jansen wrote: On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 14:31 -0700, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't know MSSQL could run on Linux. Michael, you should know better. I run MSSQL Server IIS using wine on Linux all the time - it runs wonderfully well. The performance is really impressive and it's nice to have Enterprise database and webserver options that work well on Linux. I'll write up some documentation and post it for those who might be interested. Okay, good one. You got me. At least I hope you're kidding. You are kidding, aren't you? Please say you're just kidding! Lurkers everywhere would like to hear the answer to this one. :-) No really, it's marvelous. Think about it... you get all the benefits of a truly enterprise DB (MSSQL) and world-class webserver (IIS) without having to leave Linux. And thanks to the Wine project, it Just Works. The best part is that doing a simple apt-get install wine is much easier then installing Windows and keeping it updated. Well, since we're using Fedora[1] for our production servers, it's more like yum install wine, but you get the picture. Best, Gabe 1) Fedora generally has the latest packages, and that's *key* when running Wine in production environment. /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
Re: Can mySQL and MSSQL coexist on the same server peacefully?
Gabriel Gunderson wrote: On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't know MSSQL could run on Linux. Michael, you should know better. I run MSSQL Server IIS using wine on Linux all the time - it runs wonderfully well. The performance is really impressive and it's nice to have Enterprise database and webserver options that work well on Linux. I'll write up some documentation and post it for those who might be interested. That's awesome! /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
Re: Can mySQL and MSSQL coexist on the same server peacefully?
Gabriel Gunderson wrote: No really, it's marvelous. Think about it... you get all the benefits of a truly enterprise DB (MSSQL) and world-class webserver (IIS) without having to leave Linux. And thanks to the Wine project, it Just Works. The best part is that doing a simple apt-get install wine is much easier then installing Windows and keeping it updated. Well, since we're using Fedora[1] for our production servers, it's more like yum install wine, but you get the picture. Ok, but I thought the main reason people want an enterprise database is to get commercial support. There's no way Microsoft is going to support a Wine-based installation. I'm guessing you're supporting some existing application that only runs on MSSQL. For all new development, surely you'd want a database designed for Unix. Shane /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
Re: Can mySQL and MSSQL coexist on the same server peacefully?
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Shane Hathaway sh...@hathawaymix.org wrote: Gabriel Gunderson wrote: No really, it's marvelous. Think about it... you get all the benefits of a truly enterprise DB (MSSQL) and world-class webserver (IIS) without having to leave Linux. And thanks to the Wine project, it Just Works. The best part is that doing a simple apt-get install wine is much easier then installing Windows and keeping it updated. Well, since we're using Fedora[1] for our production servers, it's more like yum install wine, but you get the picture. Ok, but I thought the main reason people want an enterprise database is to get commercial support. There's no way Microsoft is going to support a Wine-based installation. I'm guessing you're supporting some existing application that only runs on MSSQL. For all new development, surely you'd want a database designed for Unix. Right. Like you said, one of the main reasons that one chooses an Enterprise DB (over some community developed one) is the support. It's totally reassuring that you can pick up the phone and get someone with the serious technical expertise needed to get things working again. Not to mention, they'll have access to internal KBs that nobody else does. Heck, they might even have access to the source code and be able to take it line by line until they find your problem. You can't put a price on that kind of support. They would *not* be thrilled to know that I'm running IIS and MSSQL Server on Wine, but really, have you ever been asked that question when you call tech support? I just don't mention it. And when they say, OK, click on the START button on the bottom, left-hand part of the screen, I just wait a moment and say, OK. They never really know, so yeah, that works great. You gotta remember, when you're supporting Enterprise systems, you can't do anything that might limit your access to that support --that's why we shell out the big bucks of the products in the first place. And if you're doing something like running MSSQL under Wine, you just need to keep it low key. Gabe /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
