Re: I'm building linux from scratch in a virtual machine

2014-04-03 Thread Michael Havens 
goofy me!  can access the file. sorry for the clutter.

:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> okay. here is the deal. I'm trying to download the packages  to
> $LFS/sources. the problem I am having is that I can't create the directory
> as . If I create it as root I won't be able to access the directory
> as . Do I create the directory as root and then chown ?
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:11 AM,  wrote:
>
>>  it's cool... I figured it out!
>>>
>> Coming from you, this is a rather scary statement...   ;-)
>> ET
>>
>>
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 1:35 AM,  wrote:
>>>
 Please describe what you mean by:
 'how I inserted the wget-list or the md5sums list into the virtual.'
 Once you open a terminal to the 'virtual', there is no 'virtual'
 anymore.
 It is just a terminal...
 ET

 Michael Havens writes:

> Yes, I remembered that much.Myu problem is that I can't remember how I
> inserted the wget-list or the md5sums list into the virtual.
> unless.
> let me try something.
> I remembered! I used pico. It was weird. It wasn't accepting when I
> tried
> to save it with the '$LFS/sources' Could it be because  I was trying to
> use
> $LFS from within pico?
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:31 PM,  wrote:
>
>> Mike, on the virtual as root:
>> passwd (I mostly use vv)
>> apt-get install ssh
>> when done, from the host:
>> ssh root@${VIRTUAL}
>> Now you work from 'your box' over an SSH shell.
>> YMMV...
>> ET
>> PS: This will only work if the interface is 'bridged', the virtual
>> 'NAT(s)' by default.
>> Michael Havens writes:
>>
>>> its all fine except getting the wget and md5sum lists into the
>>> virtual
>>> machine
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Michael Havens 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 the problem was that I wasn't running it as root. I come to find it
 doesn't give a permission denied error. it's fine now! thanks:)
 :-)~MIKE~(-:
 On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Lisa Kachold <
 lisakach...@obnosis.com
 >wrote:
  Michael,

> This sounds like a path/permissions issue in your terminal shell.
> $ sudo locate ifconfig
> $ sudo ifconfig
> $ sudo su -
> $ su -
> Call me to discuss.
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Michael Havens 
> wrote:
>
>> I need to find the ip of the virtual debian machine. I tried
>> ipconfig.
>> Command not found. I tried ifconfig. Command not found. Well I
>> thought
>> one
>> of those commands was right!  Then I tried apt-get: unable to
>> locate
>> package. I remember there was another command that would give me
>> the
>> info I
>> want. Please, what is it?
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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Re: I'm building linux from scratch in a virtual machine

2014-04-03 Thread Michael Havens 
okay. here is the deal. I'm trying to download the packages  to
$LFS/sources. the problem I am having is that I can't create the directory
as . If I create it as root I won't be able to access the directory
as . Do I create the directory as root and then chown ?

:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:11 AM,  wrote:

>  it's cool... I figured it out!
>>
> Coming from you, this is a rather scary statement...   ;-)
> ET
>
>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 1:35 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Please describe what you mean by:
>>> 'how I inserted the wget-list or the md5sums list into the virtual.'
>>> Once you open a terminal to the 'virtual', there is no 'virtual' anymore.
>>> It is just a terminal...
>>> ET
>>>
>>> Michael Havens writes:
>>>
 Yes, I remembered that much.Myu problem is that I can't remember how I
 inserted the wget-list or the md5sums list into the virtual. unless.
 let me try something.
 I remembered! I used pico. It was weird. It wasn't accepting when I
 tried
 to save it with the '$LFS/sources' Could it be because  I was trying to
 use
 $LFS from within pico?
 :-)~MIKE~(-:
 On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:31 PM,  wrote:

> Mike, on the virtual as root:
> passwd (I mostly use vv)
> apt-get install ssh
> when done, from the host:
> ssh root@${VIRTUAL}
> Now you work from 'your box' over an SSH shell.
> YMMV...
> ET
> PS: This will only work if the interface is 'bridged', the virtual
> 'NAT(s)' by default.
> Michael Havens writes:
>
>> its all fine except getting the wget and md5sum lists into the virtual
>> machine
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Michael Havens 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> the problem was that I wasn't running it as root. I come to find it
>>> doesn't give a permission denied error. it's fine now! thanks:)
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Lisa Kachold <
>>> lisakach...@obnosis.com
>>> >wrote:
>>>  Michael,
>>>
 This sounds like a path/permissions issue in your terminal shell.
 $ sudo locate ifconfig
 $ sudo ifconfig
 $ sudo su -
 $ su -
 Call me to discuss.
 On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Michael Havens 
 wrote:

> I need to find the ip of the virtual debian machine. I tried
> ipconfig.
> Command not found. I tried ifconfig. Command not found. Well I
> thought
> one
> of those commands was right!  Then I tried apt-get: unable to
> locate
> package. I remember there was another command that would give me
> the
> info I
> want. Please, what is it?
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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Re: I'm building linux from scratch in a virtual machine

2014-04-03 Thread kitepilot 

it's cool... I figured it out!

Coming from you, this is a rather scary statement...   ;-)
ET 





:-)~MIKE~(-: 



On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 1:35 AM,  wrote: 


Please describe what you mean by:
'how I inserted the wget-list or the md5sums list into the virtual.'
Once you open a terminal to the 'virtual', there is no 'virtual' anymore.
It is just a terminal...
ET 



Michael Havens writes: 


Yes, I remembered that much.Myu problem is that I can't remember how I
inserted the wget-list or the md5sums list into the virtual. unless.
let me try something.
I remembered! I used pico. It was weird. It wasn't accepting when I tried
to save it with the '$LFS/sources' Could it be because  I was trying to
use
$LFS from within pico?
:-)~MIKE~(-: 

On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:31 PM,  wrote: 


Mike, on the virtual as root:
passwd (I mostly use vv)
apt-get install ssh
when done, from the host:
ssh root@${VIRTUAL}
Now you work from 'your box' over an SSH shell.
YMMV...
ET
PS: This will only work if the interface is 'bridged', the virtual
'NAT(s)' by default. 

Michael Havens writes: 


its all fine except getting the wget and md5sum lists into the virtual
machine
:-)~MIKE~(-:
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Michael Havens 
wrote: 


the problem was that I wasn't running it as root. I come to find it
doesn't give a permission denied error. it's fine now! thanks:)
:-)~MIKE~(-:
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Lisa Kachold >wrote: 


 Michael,

This sounds like a path/permissions issue in your terminal shell.
$ sudo locate ifconfig
$ sudo ifconfig
$ sudo su -
$ su -
Call me to discuss.
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Michael Havens 
wrote: 


I need to find the ip of the virtual debian machine. I tried
ipconfig.
Command not found. I tried ifconfig. Command not found. Well I
thought
one
of those commands was right!  Then I tried apt-get: unable to locate
package. I remember there was another command that would give me the
info I
want. Please, what is it?
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Re: I'm building linux from scratch in a virtual machine

2014-04-03 Thread Michael Havens 
it's cool... I figured it out!

:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 1:35 AM,  wrote:

> Please describe what you mean by:
> 'how I inserted the wget-list or the md5sums list into the virtual.'
> Once you open a terminal to the 'virtual', there is no 'virtual' anymore.
> It is just a terminal...
> ET
>
>
> Michael Havens writes:
>
>> Yes, I remembered that much.Myu problem is that I can't remember how I
>> inserted the wget-list or the md5sums list into the virtual. unless.
>> let me try something.
>> I remembered! I used pico. It was weird. It wasn't accepting when I tried
>> to save it with the '$LFS/sources' Could it be because  I was trying to
>> use
>> $LFS from within pico?
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:31 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Mike, on the virtual as root:
>>> passwd (I mostly use vv)
>>> apt-get install ssh
>>> when done, from the host:
>>> ssh root@${VIRTUAL}
>>> Now you work from 'your box' over an SSH shell.
>>> YMMV...
>>> ET
>>> PS: This will only work if the interface is 'bridged', the virtual
>>> 'NAT(s)' by default.
>>>
>>> Michael Havens writes:
>>>
 its all fine except getting the wget and md5sum lists into the virtual
 machine
 :-)~MIKE~(-:
 On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Michael Havens 
 wrote:

> the problem was that I wasn't running it as root. I come to find it
> doesn't give a permission denied error. it's fine now! thanks:)
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Lisa Kachold  >wrote:
>
>  Michael,
>> This sounds like a path/permissions issue in your terminal shell.
>> $ sudo locate ifconfig
>> $ sudo ifconfig
>> $ sudo su -
>> $ su -
>> Call me to discuss.
>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Michael Havens 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I need to find the ip of the virtual debian machine. I tried
>>> ipconfig.
>>> Command not found. I tried ifconfig. Command not found. Well I
>>> thought
>>> one
>>> of those commands was right!  Then I tried apt-get: unable to locate
>>> package. I remember there was another command that would give me the
>>> info I
>>> want. Please, what is it?
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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Re: JOB: I ran across this job posting today for those looking for some extra income

2014-04-03 Thread Brian Cluff 
Their choice for graphics to go along with the job posting really starts 
you off with the idea that this will be a nightmare job.


Brian Cluff

On 04/03/2014 07:28 AM, Shawn Badger wrote:

First off, I'm not affiliated with this site, I just have them in my
feedly list because they have some good articles.

The job seems to be for a part time sys admin but take a look at the
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Re: I'm building linux from scratch in a virtual machine

2014-04-03 Thread Matt Graham 

Michael Havens  wrote:

I tried ipconfig. Command not found.

Lisa Kachold  wrote:

This sounds like a path/permissions issue in your terminal shell.

Michael Havens wrote:

the problem was that I wasn't running it as root. I come to find it
doesn't give a permission denied error.

Stephen Partington wrote:

If the permissions are set the command is not even visible.


ifconfig and ip are usually in /sbin .  /sbin is not in the PATH for 
normal users, so attempting to run ip or ifconfig as a normal user will 
fail.  /sbin is in root's PATH.  Normal users can always add /sbin to 
their PATH or call the commands with the full path-- /sbin/ifconfig 
should always work.  I almost always have


export PATH=$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin:$HOME/bin

in my .bashrc so I don't have to type as much for various things.


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JOB: I ran across this job posting today for those looking for some extra income

2014-04-03 Thread Shawn Badger 
First off, I'm not affiliated with this site, I just have them in my feedly
list because they have some good articles.

The job seems to be for a part time sys admin but take a look at the link
for the details:


http://kk.org/cooltools/archives/14542
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Re: I'm building linux from scratch in a virtual machine

2014-04-03 Thread Stephen Partington 
If the permissions are set the command is not even visible. With certain
commands that is ideal because it is harder to manipulate a file you cannot
even see.


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> the problem was that I wasn't running it as root. I come to find it
> doesn't give a permission denied error. it's fine now! thanks:)
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:
>
>> Michael,
>>
>> This sounds like a path/permissions issue in your terminal shell.
>>
>> $ sudo locate ifconfig
>> $ sudo ifconfig
>> $ sudo su -
>> $ su -
>>
>> Call me to discuss.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>>
>>> I need to find the ip of the virtual debian machine. I tried ipconfig.
>>> Command not found. I tried ifconfig. Command not found. Well I thought one
>>> of those commands was right!  Then I tried apt-get: unable to locate
>>> package. I remember there was another command that would give me the info I
>>> want. Please, what is it?
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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Re: I'm building linux from scratch in a virtual machine

2014-04-03 Thread kitepilot 

Please describe what you mean by:
'how I inserted the wget-list or the md5sums list into the virtual.' 


Once you open a terminal to the 'virtual', there is no 'virtual' anymore.
It is just a terminal...
ET 




Michael Havens writes: 


Yes, I remembered that much.Myu problem is that I can't remember how I
inserted the wget-list or the md5sums list into the virtual. unless.
let me try something.
I remembered! I used pico. It was weird. It wasn't accepting when I tried
to save it with the '$LFS/sources' Could it be because  I was trying to use
$LFS from within pico? 

:-)~MIKE~(-: 



On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:31 PM,  wrote: 


Mike, on the virtual as root:
passwd (I mostly use vv)
apt-get install ssh
when done, from the host:
ssh root@${VIRTUAL}
Now you work from 'your box' over an SSH shell.
YMMV...
ET
PS: This will only work if the interface is 'bridged', the virtual
'NAT(s)' by default. 



Michael Havens writes: 


its all fine except getting the wget and md5sum lists into the virtual
machine
:-)~MIKE~(-: 


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Michael Havens 
wrote: 


the problem was that I wasn't running it as root. I come to find it
doesn't give a permission denied error. it's fine now! thanks:)
:-)~MIKE~(-: 

On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: 




Michael,
This sounds like a path/permissions issue in your terminal shell.
$ sudo locate ifconfig
$ sudo ifconfig
$ sudo su -
$ su -
Call me to discuss. 


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Michael Havens 
wrote: 


I need to find the ip of the virtual debian machine. I tried ipconfig.
Command not found. I tried ifconfig. Command not found. Well I thought
one
of those commands was right!  Then I tried apt-get: unable to locate
package. I remember there was another command that would give me the
info I
want. Please, what is it?
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Re: I'm building linux from scratch in a virtual machine

2014-04-03 Thread Michael Havens 
Yes, I remembered that much.Myu problem is that I can't remember how I
inserted the wget-list or the md5sums list into the virtual. unless.
let me try something.
I remembered! I used pico. It was weird. It wasn't accepting when I tried
to save it with the '$LFS/sources' Could it be because  I was trying to use
$LFS from within pico?

:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:31 PM,  wrote:

> Mike, on the virtual as root:
> passwd (I mostly use vv)
> apt-get install ssh
> when done, from the host:
> ssh root@${VIRTUAL}
> Now you work from 'your box' over an SSH shell.
> YMMV...
> ET
> PS: This will only work if the interface is 'bridged', the virtual
> 'NAT(s)' by default.
>
>
> Michael Havens writes:
>
>> its all fine except getting the wget and md5sum lists into the virtual
>> machine
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Michael Havens 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> the problem was that I wasn't running it as root. I come to find it
>>> doesn't give a permission denied error. it's fine now! thanks:)
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Lisa Kachold 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
 Michael,
 This sounds like a path/permissions issue in your terminal shell.
 $ sudo locate ifconfig
 $ sudo ifconfig
 $ sudo su -
 $ su -
 Call me to discuss.

 On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Michael Havens 
 wrote:

> I need to find the ip of the virtual debian machine. I tried ipconfig.
> Command not found. I tried ifconfig. Command not found. Well I thought
> one
> of those commands was right!  Then I tried apt-get: unable to locate
> package. I remember there was another command that would give me the
> info I
> want. Please, what is it?
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