Re: OT: Is it just me or is Firefox slowing worse?

2015-05-23 Thread Michael Butash
Java hasn't worked in linux since ver 35 I think, it just broke for 
everyone else recently.


I for one embrace the death of java as much as flash, both are terrible 
examples of necessary evils before, and now just a relic of the past 
that needs to die.  This was one thing I applauded apple for when they 
declined to support flash anymore.  Adobe and that little cartel needed 
to die off eventually, here's hoping java is next.


What does suck is "enterprise" application dependence on java, as it's 
been taught for 15 years, produced an army of usually bad developers, 
and ignorant software vendors actually believed it was "platform 
independent".  As long as you always ran jre6.42release3, not release 2 
or 4.  I've never seen any client that actually works right under linux 
with a correct version or not, another reason I end up keeping my dumb 
xp vm around with various customer environments.


I dread any java client usage, it is simply destined to fail.  If a 
vendor tries to sell me one, I laugh mockingly and decline, asking when 
they intend to join the 21st century.


There aren't a lot of classes and degrees to reform^H^H^H^Heducate 
people in modern languages to escape entrenchment of crap like java and 
microsoft languages either, uop and other crackhead colleges don't 
bother without microsoft or oracle schilling them. Old habits, and 
crusty developers die hard, but I suppose they need to eat too, and they 
hang out with the as400 guys and commiserate about that cloud thing.


-mb


On 05/23/2015 09:25 PM, Wayne Davis wrote:

THIS may be of interest and a reason why you are having some issues:

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/04/chrome-starts-pushing-java-off-the-web-by-disabling-plugins/ 





On 05/23/2015 06:44 PM, Michael Butash wrote:
I don't notice firefox any slower than chromium, at least not until 
using chromes at the same time cause it and my system itself to come 
to a halt or implodes.


I've simply had to start using firefox, chrome/chromium literally 
destroy my system now using it to the point it'll about destabilize 
my system within a day.  Plus, I'm finding more and more sites simply 
(again) don't work with chrome that forces me to use firefox that 
does.  It's like some resurgence of asp.net sites, or otherwise 
shitty web code chrome simply doesn't tolerate.


Sadly use of chrome is beginning to make ubuntu almost unusable for 
me, for no lack of trying, I cannot figure out why.  Chrome and 
chromium continue to chew up some apparently indescribable limit I'm 
hitting that nothing logs or errors to the point I can't even wake it 
up after dpms shuts off my display, without them I'm fine, hard 
killing all chrome pids helps, but eventually once launching it, it's 
a countdown to destruction. I'm about rebooting my system every few 
days, starting to feel like windows 98 again.


I really start to wonder what I'm doing wrong that no one else is 
doing, aside from apparently actually using linux to it's 
capabilities as a desktop, and well beyond.


-mb


On 05/23/2015 04:43 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote:

Is it just me or is Firefox slowing down worse all the time?

Is there anything (new) that can be done to speed it up?

I've made all the changes in about:config that I know to make.

Or ... is the problem (also) my computer?

Is there some way to clear memory other than to have to reboot?

Day by day, everything just seems to get slower and slower
until I finally give up and reboot and then things work
a lot better (just for a while).

I'm using Linux Mint.




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Re: OT: Is it just me or is Firefox slowing worse?

2015-05-23 Thread Wayne Davis

THIS may be of interest and a reason why you are having some issues:

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/04/chrome-starts-pushing-java-off-the-web-by-disabling-plugins/



On 05/23/2015 06:44 PM, Michael Butash wrote:
I don't notice firefox any slower than chromium, at least not until 
using chromes at the same time cause it and my system itself to come 
to a halt or implodes.


I've simply had to start using firefox, chrome/chromium literally 
destroy my system now using it to the point it'll about destabilize my 
system within a day.  Plus, I'm finding more and more sites simply 
(again) don't work with chrome that forces me to use firefox that 
does.  It's like some resurgence of asp.net sites, or otherwise shitty 
web code chrome simply doesn't tolerate.


Sadly use of chrome is beginning to make ubuntu almost unusable for 
me, for no lack of trying, I cannot figure out why.  Chrome and 
chromium continue to chew up some apparently indescribable limit I'm 
hitting that nothing logs or errors to the point I can't even wake it 
up after dpms shuts off my display, without them I'm fine, hard 
killing all chrome pids helps, but eventually once launching it, it's 
a countdown to destruction.  I'm about rebooting my system every few 
days, starting to feel like windows 98 again.


I really start to wonder what I'm doing wrong that no one else is 
doing, aside from apparently actually using linux to it's capabilities 
as a desktop, and well beyond.


-mb


On 05/23/2015 04:43 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote:

Is it just me or is Firefox slowing down worse all the time?

Is there anything (new) that can be done to speed it up?

I've made all the changes in about:config that I know to make.

Or ... is the problem (also) my computer?

Is there some way to clear memory other than to have to reboot?

Day by day, everything just seems to get slower and slower
until I finally give up and reboot and then things work
a lot better (just for a while).

I'm using Linux Mint.




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Re: OT: Is it just me or is Firefox slowing worse?

2015-05-23 Thread Keith Smith


I had this problem some time ago.  I seem to recall it happened when I 
had a lot of tabs open.  Probably in excess of 8 or 10.  If you close 
some of your tabs and it speeds up, please post that as a possible 
reason for FF sluggish behavior.






On 2015-05-23 16:43, j...@actionline.com wrote:

Is it just me or is Firefox slowing down worse all the time?

Is there anything (new) that can be done to speed it up?

I've made all the changes in about:config that I know to make.

Or ... is the problem (also) my computer?

Is there some way to clear memory other than to have to reboot?

Day by day, everything just seems to get slower and slower
until I finally give up and reboot and then things work
a lot better (just for a while).

I'm using Linux Mint.




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Re: OT: Is it just me or is Firefox slowing worse?

2015-05-23 Thread Michael Butash
I don't notice firefox any slower than chromium, at least not until 
using chromes at the same time cause it and my system itself to come to 
a halt or implodes.


I've simply had to start using firefox, chrome/chromium literally 
destroy my system now using it to the point it'll about destabilize my 
system within a day.  Plus, I'm finding more and more sites simply 
(again) don't work with chrome that forces me to use firefox that does.  
It's like some resurgence of asp.net sites, or otherwise shitty web code 
chrome simply doesn't tolerate.


Sadly use of chrome is beginning to make ubuntu almost unusable for me, 
for no lack of trying, I cannot figure out why.  Chrome and chromium 
continue to chew up some apparently indescribable limit I'm hitting that 
nothing logs or errors to the point I can't even wake it up after dpms 
shuts off my display, without them I'm fine, hard killing all chrome 
pids helps, but eventually once launching it, it's a countdown to 
destruction.  I'm about rebooting my system every few days, starting to 
feel like windows 98 again.


I really start to wonder what I'm doing wrong that no one else is doing, 
aside from apparently actually using linux to it's capabilities as a 
desktop, and well beyond.


-mb


On 05/23/2015 04:43 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote:

Is it just me or is Firefox slowing down worse all the time?

Is there anything (new) that can be done to speed it up?

I've made all the changes in about:config that I know to make.

Or ... is the problem (also) my computer?

Is there some way to clear memory other than to have to reboot?

Day by day, everything just seems to get slower and slower
until I finally give up and reboot and then things work
a lot better (just for a while).

I'm using Linux Mint.




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Re: OT: Is it just me or is Firefox slowing worse?

2015-05-23 Thread Stephen Partington
I actually have been noticing this. Have since moved back to Chrome for a
small handful of reasons.


On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 4:43 PM,  wrote:

> Is it just me or is Firefox slowing down worse all the time?
>
> Is there anything (new) that can be done to speed it up?
>
> I've made all the changes in about:config that I know to make.
>
> Or ... is the problem (also) my computer?
>
> Is there some way to clear memory other than to have to reboot?
>
> Day by day, everything just seems to get slower and slower
> until I finally give up and reboot and then things work
> a lot better (just for a while).
>
> I'm using Linux Mint.
>
>
>
>
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OT: Is it just me or is Firefox slowing worse?

2015-05-23 Thread joe
Is it just me or is Firefox slowing down worse all the time?

Is there anything (new) that can be done to speed it up?

I've made all the changes in about:config that I know to make.

Or ... is the problem (also) my computer?

Is there some way to clear memory other than to have to reboot?

Day by day, everything just seems to get slower and slower
until I finally give up and reboot and then things work
a lot better (just for a while).

I'm using Linux Mint.




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