Re: Article / Data warehouse cms software

2015-05-26 Thread Stephen Partington
I was looking at the WordPress knowledge base plugin is pretty neat.
On May 26, 2015 6:58 PM, "Nathan England"  wrote:

> Thanks for all the input. The articles that are going to be put into the
> system currently only exist on paper. Which I have no plans of scanning in.
> These will be lovingly typed in, mostly by myself. Many of the articles
> will have references to each other, so wikimedia's easy ability to link
> between other documents is important to me. I want it simple.
>
> This is definitely one of those issues where I really want the technology
> to just help me do what I want to do and not turn into a major development
> project or something that requires more time to maintain than the system
> itself for me to use.
>
> I just want to type in my documents and be able to search and link between
> them.
>
> If it helps at all, this is personal bible study notes and sermons from
> the last 10 years. I don't want to lose any of it and I want to expand on a
> lot of it. I also want to begin typing up a complete commentary as detailed
> as possible. I really want to take advantage of the inter-linking between
> documents.
>
> Thanks again for all your thoughts!
>
>
>
>
> On 2015-05-26 17:33, Mark Phillips wrote:
>
>  I also looked at dspace. It has lots of bells and whistles for
> professional archivists, especially in the workflow for adding something to
> the repository. I am not sure if one can bypass any of the steps. It was
> too complicated for my needs. It meets all sorts of standards for archiving
> documents, but my project does not need to be standards compliant. Mayan
> also has a workflow associated with adding something to the repository, but
> it seems to be much more streamlined and appropriate for my archiving
> needs. Dspace is also a Java/Tomcat application, so a bit heavier than I
> wanted to host for my project. Just my 2 cents based on a fair amount of
> research in this area. I am by no means an expert!
>
>
> Mark
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Stephen Partington 
> wrote:
>
>>  Well if you are looking to store a digital library you can consider
>> something like D-Space
>>
>> http://www.dspace.org/
>>
>> It is a bit finicky to set up but it does work on revision management and
>> actually managing and maintaining your data. do some reading before you
>> decide to try it. it is not for the feint of heart.
>>
>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Mark Phillips <
>> m...@phillipsmarketing.biz> wrote:
>>
>>>   Nathan,
>>>
>>> I am in the same boat. I have lots of scaned documents (pdfs, tiffs,
>>> jpegs, etc.) to tag and make searchable. I tried a wiki and did not have
>>> much luck. I stumbled upon mayan edms (http://www.mayan-edms.com/) and
>>> it looks pretty good. It is a django based open source project for storing,
>>> tagging, and searching documents such as I have. It also does ocr as
>>> documents are imported, so the searches cover both meta tags and document
>>> content. It keeps a modification history for all documents. It can use
>>> SQLite, MySql, postgress, etc. as the db. Django is a pretty simple
>>> framework to understand. The only downside is that the community support is
>>> sparse and the docs are also sparse. I am just now looking at the code to
>>> see how well it is documented.
>>>
>>> Most of the archival software I looked at are Java based, and I prefer
>>> Python because for this small project it uses less resources.
>>>
>>> Let me know if you plan to use it. Perhaps we could help each other
>>> understand the project.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Stephen Partington <
>>> cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
  If you know wordpress i would stick with it. additionally there are
 plugins for wiki as well.

 https://wordpress.org/plugins/search.php?q=wiki

 and knowledge base functionality. (might have to investigate these for
 my own use)

 https://wordpress.org/plugins/search.php?type=term&q=knowledgebase

 On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Matt Graham 
 wrote:

> On 2015-05-25 21:08, Nathan England wrote:
>>
>>> I have a project to store a lot of data. Articles, stories, and
>>> encyclopedia type stuff. My first thought was to use a wiki
>>> (wikimedia) as it makes the contents easily searchable, but what
>>> about
>>> other cms systems like wordpress?
>>
>>  Wordpress is generally more "centralized", as it puts the most
> recent blog posts up on the main page.  Whether you'd use it or a wiki
> really depends on what the users will be doing since there are things 
> wikis
> do better than wordpress.  The default wordpress search seems to work OK.
> Writing internal links using wordpress is more difficult than doing that 
> in
> a wiki.
>
> I am not familiar with wikimedia and its maintenance requirements.
>> I can say that WordPress does not require a lot of attention.
>>
>
> This depends 

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2015-05-26 Thread Brian Cluff
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Re: Article / Data warehouse cms software

2015-05-26 Thread Nathan England
 

Thanks for all the input. The articles that are going to be put into the
system currently only exist on paper. Which I have no plans of scanning
in. These will be lovingly typed in, mostly by myself. Many of the
articles will have references to each other, so wikimedia's easy ability
to link between other documents is important to me. I want it simple. 

This is definitely one of those issues where I really want the
technology to just help me do what I want to do and not turn into a
major development project or something that requires more time to
maintain than the system itself for me to use. 

I just want to type in my documents and be able to search and link
between them. 

If it helps at all, this is personal bible study notes and sermons from
the last 10 years. I don't want to lose any of it and I want to expand
on a lot of it. I also want to begin typing up a complete commentary as
detailed as possible. I really want to take advantage of the
inter-linking between documents. 

Thanks again for all your thoughts! 

On 2015-05-26 17:33, Mark Phillips wrote: 

> I also looked at dspace. It has lots of bells and whistles for professional 
> archivists, especially in the workflow for adding something to the 
> repository. I am not sure if one can bypass any of the steps. It was too 
> complicated for my needs. It meets all sorts of standards for archiving 
> documents, but my project does not need to be standards compliant. Mayan also 
> has a workflow associated with adding something to the repository, but it 
> seems to be much more streamlined and appropriate for my archiving needs. 
> Dspace is also a Java/Tomcat application, so a bit heavier than I wanted to 
> host for my project. Just my 2 cents based on a fair amount of research in 
> this area. I am by no means an expert!
> 
> Mark 
> 
> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Stephen Partington  
> wrote:
> 
> Well if you are looking to store a digital library you can consider something 
> like D-Space 
> 
> http://www.dspace.org/ [1] 
> 
> It is a bit finicky to set up but it does work on revision management and 
> actually managing and maintaining your data. do some reading before you 
> decide to try it. it is not for the feint of heart. 
> 
> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Mark Phillips  
> wrote:
> 
> Nathan,
> 
> I am in the same boat. I have lots of scaned documents (pdfs, tiffs, jpegs, 
> etc.) to tag and make searchable. I tried a wiki and did not have much luck. 
> I stumbled upon mayan edms (http://www.mayan-edms.com/ [2]) and it looks 
> pretty good. It is a django based open source project for storing, tagging, 
> and searching documents such as I have. It also does ocr as documents are 
> imported, so the searches cover both meta tags and document content. It keeps 
> a modification history for all documents. It can use SQLite, MySql, 
> postgress, etc. as the db. Django is a pretty simple framework to understand. 
> The only downside is that the community support is sparse and the docs are 
> also sparse. I am just now looking at the code to see how well it is 
> documented. 
> 
> Most of the archival software I looked at are Java based, and I prefer Python 
> because for this small project it uses less resources. 
> 
> Let me know if you plan to use it. Perhaps we could help each other 
> understand the project.
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Stephen Partington  
> wrote:
> 
> If you know wordpress i would stick with it. additionally there are plugins 
> for wiki as well. 
> 
> https://wordpress.org/plugins/search.php?q=wiki [3] 
> 
> and knowledge base functionality. (might have to investigate these for my own 
> use) 
> 
> https://wordpress.org/plugins/search.php?type=term&q=knowledgebase [4]
> 
> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Matt Graham  wrote:
> On 2015-05-25 21:08, Nathan England wrote:
> I have a project to store a lot of data. Articles, stories, and
> encyclopedia type stuff. My first thought was to use a wiki
> (wikimedia) as it makes the contents easily searchable, but what about
> other cms systems like wordpress?
 Wordpress is generally more "centralized", as it puts the most recent
blog posts up on the main page. Whether you'd use it or a wiki really
depends on what the users will be doing since there are things wikis do
better than wordpress. The default wordpress search seems to work OK.
Writing internal links using wordpress is more difficult than doing that
in a wiki.

> I am not familiar with wikimedia and its maintenance requirements.
> I can say that WordPress does not require a lot of attention.

 This depends greatly on the users. Setting up a wiki and running it is
not really difficult or resource-consuming if you don't have many users
and none of them are actively trying to destroy the site. If you have a
bunch of active users, you're going to need moderators and handle the
inevitable flame wars. They come out with a new version of wordpress
every couple of months, and updating usually 

Re: Article / Data warehouse cms software

2015-05-26 Thread Mark Phillips
I also looked at dspace. It has lots of bells and whistles for professional
archivists, especially in the workflow for adding something to the
repository. I am not sure if one can bypass any of the steps. It was too
complicated for my needs. It meets all sorts of standards for archiving
documents, but my project does not need to be standards compliant. Mayan
also has a workflow associated with adding something to the repository, but
it seems to be much more streamlined and appropriate for my archiving
needs. Dspace is also a Java/Tomcat application, so a bit heavier than I
wanted to host for my project. Just my 2 cents based on a fair amount of
research in this area. I am by no means an expert!

Mark

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> Well if you are looking to store a digital library you can consider
> something like D-Space
>
> http://www.dspace.org/
>
> It is a bit finicky to set up but it does work on revision management and
> actually managing and maintaining your data. do some reading before you
> decide to try it. it is not for the feint of heart.
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Mark Phillips <
> m...@phillipsmarketing.biz> wrote:
>
>> Nathan,
>>
>> I am in the same boat. I have lots of scaned documents (pdfs, tiffs,
>> jpegs, etc.) to tag and make searchable. I tried a wiki and did not have
>> much luck. I stumbled upon mayan edms (http://www.mayan-edms.com/) and
>> it looks pretty good. It is a django based open source project for storing,
>> tagging, and searching documents such as I have. It also does ocr as
>> documents are imported, so the searches cover both meta tags and document
>> content. It keeps a modification history for all documents. It can use
>> SQLite, MySql, postgress, etc. as the db. Django is a pretty simple
>> framework to understand. The only downside is that the community support is
>> sparse and the docs are also sparse. I am just now looking at the code to
>> see how well it is documented.
>>
>> Most of the archival software I looked at are Java based, and I prefer
>> Python because for this small project it uses less resources.
>>
>> Let me know if you plan to use it. Perhaps we could help each other
>> understand the project.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Stephen Partington <
>> cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If you know wordpress i would stick with it. additionally there are
>>> plugins for wiki as well.
>>>
>>> https://wordpress.org/plugins/search.php?q=wiki
>>>
>>> and knowledge base functionality. (might have to investigate these for
>>> my own use)
>>>
>>> https://wordpress.org/plugins/search.php?type=term&q=knowledgebase
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Matt Graham 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 On 2015-05-25 21:08, Nathan England wrote:
>
>> I have a project to store a lot of data. Articles, stories, and
>> encyclopedia type stuff. My first thought was to use a wiki
>> (wikimedia) as it makes the contents easily searchable, but what about
>> other cms systems like wordpress?
>>
>
 Wordpress is generally more "centralized", as it puts the most recent
 blog posts up on the main page.  Whether you'd use it or a wiki really
 depends on what the users will be doing since there are things wikis do
 better than wordpress.  The default wordpress search seems to work OK.
 Writing internal links using wordpress is more difficult than doing that in
 a wiki.

  I am not familiar with wikimedia and its maintenance requirements.
> I can say that WordPress does not require a lot of attention.
>

 This depends greatly on the users.  Setting up a wiki and running it is
 not really difficult or resource-consuming if you don't have many users and
 none of them are actively trying to destroy the site.  If you have a bunch
 of active users, you're going to need moderators and handle the inevitable
 flame wars.  They come out with a new version of wordpress every couple of
 months, and updating usually doesn't break anything or take a lot of time.
 If you have comments enabled on wordpress, you will need to periodically
 get rid of the spam since there are many people out there comment-spamming
 wordpress sites.

  If you are doing something very heavy duty Drupal might be a
> candidate.
>

 I'd say "avoid drupal unless you know you need it" but that's just MHO.

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Re: Article / Data warehouse cms software

2015-05-26 Thread Stephen Partington
Well if you are looking to store a digital library you can consider
something like D-Space

http://www.dspace.org/

It is a bit finicky to set up but it does work on revision management and
actually managing and maintaining your data. do some reading before you
decide to try it. it is not for the feint of heart.

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Mark Phillips 
wrote:

> Nathan,
>
> I am in the same boat. I have lots of scaned documents (pdfs, tiffs,
> jpegs, etc.) to tag and make searchable. I tried a wiki and did not have
> much luck. I stumbled upon mayan edms (http://www.mayan-edms.com/) and it
> looks pretty good. It is a django based open source project for storing,
> tagging, and searching documents such as I have. It also does ocr as
> documents are imported, so the searches cover both meta tags and document
> content. It keeps a modification history for all documents. It can use
> SQLite, MySql, postgress, etc. as the db. Django is a pretty simple
> framework to understand. The only downside is that the community support is
> sparse and the docs are also sparse. I am just now looking at the code to
> see how well it is documented.
>
> Most of the archival software I looked at are Java based, and I prefer
> Python because for this small project it uses less resources.
>
> Let me know if you plan to use it. Perhaps we could help each other
> understand the project.
>
> Mark
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Stephen Partington  > wrote:
>
>> If you know wordpress i would stick with it. additionally there are
>> plugins for wiki as well.
>>
>> https://wordpress.org/plugins/search.php?q=wiki
>>
>> and knowledge base functionality. (might have to investigate these for my
>> own use)
>>
>> https://wordpress.org/plugins/search.php?type=term&q=knowledgebase
>>
>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Matt Graham 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-05-25 21:08, Nathan England wrote:

> I have a project to store a lot of data. Articles, stories, and
> encyclopedia type stuff. My first thought was to use a wiki
> (wikimedia) as it makes the contents easily searchable, but what about
> other cms systems like wordpress?
>

>>> Wordpress is generally more "centralized", as it puts the most recent
>>> blog posts up on the main page.  Whether you'd use it or a wiki really
>>> depends on what the users will be doing since there are things wikis do
>>> better than wordpress.  The default wordpress search seems to work OK.
>>> Writing internal links using wordpress is more difficult than doing that in
>>> a wiki.
>>>
>>>  I am not familiar with wikimedia and its maintenance requirements.
 I can say that WordPress does not require a lot of attention.

>>>
>>> This depends greatly on the users.  Setting up a wiki and running it is
>>> not really difficult or resource-consuming if you don't have many users and
>>> none of them are actively trying to destroy the site.  If you have a bunch
>>> of active users, you're going to need moderators and handle the inevitable
>>> flame wars.  They come out with a new version of wordpress every couple of
>>> months, and updating usually doesn't break anything or take a lot of time.
>>> If you have comments enabled on wordpress, you will need to periodically
>>> get rid of the spam since there are many people out there comment-spamming
>>> wordpress sites.
>>>
>>>  If you are doing something very heavy duty Drupal might be a
 candidate.

>>>
>>> I'd say "avoid drupal unless you know you need it" but that's just MHO.
>>>
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>>> But only Light too dim for us to see.
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>>
>>
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>>
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Re: Article / Data warehouse cms software

2015-05-26 Thread Mark Phillips
Nathan,

I am in the same boat. I have lots of scaned documents (pdfs, tiffs, jpegs,
etc.) to tag and make searchable. I tried a wiki and did not have much
luck. I stumbled upon mayan edms (http://www.mayan-edms.com/) and it looks
pretty good. It is a django based open source project for storing, tagging,
and searching documents such as I have. It also does ocr as documents are
imported, so the searches cover both meta tags and document content. It
keeps a modification history for all documents. It can use SQLite, MySql,
postgress, etc. as the db. Django is a pretty simple framework to
understand. The only downside is that the community support is sparse and
the docs are also sparse. I am just now looking at the code to see how well
it is documented.

Most of the archival software I looked at are Java based, and I prefer
Python because for this small project it uses less resources.

Let me know if you plan to use it. Perhaps we could help each other
understand the project.

Mark

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> If you know wordpress i would stick with it. additionally there are
> plugins for wiki as well.
>
> https://wordpress.org/plugins/search.php?q=wiki
>
> and knowledge base functionality. (might have to investigate these for my
> own use)
>
> https://wordpress.org/plugins/search.php?type=term&q=knowledgebase
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Matt Graham 
> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-05-25 21:08, Nathan England wrote:
>>>
 I have a project to store a lot of data. Articles, stories, and
 encyclopedia type stuff. My first thought was to use a wiki
 (wikimedia) as it makes the contents easily searchable, but what about
 other cms systems like wordpress?

>>>
>> Wordpress is generally more "centralized", as it puts the most recent
>> blog posts up on the main page.  Whether you'd use it or a wiki really
>> depends on what the users will be doing since there are things wikis do
>> better than wordpress.  The default wordpress search seems to work OK.
>> Writing internal links using wordpress is more difficult than doing that in
>> a wiki.
>>
>>  I am not familiar with wikimedia and its maintenance requirements.
>>> I can say that WordPress does not require a lot of attention.
>>>
>>
>> This depends greatly on the users.  Setting up a wiki and running it is
>> not really difficult or resource-consuming if you don't have many users and
>> none of them are actively trying to destroy the site.  If you have a bunch
>> of active users, you're going to need moderators and handle the inevitable
>> flame wars.  They come out with a new version of wordpress every couple of
>> months, and updating usually doesn't break anything or take a lot of time.
>> If you have comments enabled on wordpress, you will need to periodically
>> get rid of the spam since there are many people out there comment-spamming
>> wordpress sites.
>>
>>  If you are doing something very heavy duty Drupal might be a
>>> candidate.
>>>
>>
>> I'd say "avoid drupal unless you know you need it" but that's just MHO.
>>
>> --
>> Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress
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>> But only Light too dim for us to see.
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Re: Article / Data warehouse cms software

2015-05-26 Thread Stephen Partington
If you know wordpress i would stick with it. additionally there are plugins
for wiki as well.

https://wordpress.org/plugins/search.php?q=wiki

and knowledge base functionality. (might have to investigate these for my
own use)

https://wordpress.org/plugins/search.php?type=term&q=knowledgebase

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Matt Graham  wrote:

> On 2015-05-25 21:08, Nathan England wrote:
>>
>>> I have a project to store a lot of data. Articles, stories, and
>>> encyclopedia type stuff. My first thought was to use a wiki
>>> (wikimedia) as it makes the contents easily searchable, but what about
>>> other cms systems like wordpress?
>>>
>>
> Wordpress is generally more "centralized", as it puts the most recent blog
> posts up on the main page.  Whether you'd use it or a wiki really depends
> on what the users will be doing since there are things wikis do better than
> wordpress.  The default wordpress search seems to work OK.  Writing
> internal links using wordpress is more difficult than doing that in a wiki.
>
>  I am not familiar with wikimedia and its maintenance requirements.
>> I can say that WordPress does not require a lot of attention.
>>
>
> This depends greatly on the users.  Setting up a wiki and running it is
> not really difficult or resource-consuming if you don't have many users and
> none of them are actively trying to destroy the site.  If you have a bunch
> of active users, you're going to need moderators and handle the inevitable
> flame wars.  They come out with a new version of wordpress every couple of
> months, and updating usually doesn't break anything or take a lot of time.
> If you have comments enabled on wordpress, you will need to periodically
> get rid of the spam since there are many people out there comment-spamming
> wordpress sites.
>
>  If you are doing something very heavy duty Drupal might be a
>> candidate.
>>
>
> I'd say "avoid drupal unless you know you need it" but that's just MHO.
>
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> But only Light too dim for us to see.
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Re: Article / Data warehouse cms software

2015-05-26 Thread Matt Graham

On 2015-05-25 21:08, Nathan England wrote:

I have a project to store a lot of data. Articles, stories, and
encyclopedia type stuff. My first thought was to use a wiki
(wikimedia) as it makes the contents easily searchable, but what 
about

other cms systems like wordpress?


Wordpress is generally more "centralized", as it puts the most recent 
blog posts up on the main page.  Whether you'd use it or a wiki really 
depends on what the users will be doing since there are things wikis do 
better than wordpress.  The default wordpress search seems to work OK.  
Writing internal links using wordpress is more difficult than doing that 
in a wiki.



I am not familiar with wikimedia and its maintenance requirements.
I can say that WordPress does not require a lot of attention.


This depends greatly on the users.  Setting up a wiki and running it is 
not really difficult or resource-consuming if you don't have many users 
and none of them are actively trying to destroy the site.  If you have a 
bunch of active users, you're going to need moderators and handle the 
inevitable flame wars.  They come out with a new version of wordpress 
every couple of months, and updating usually doesn't break anything or 
take a lot of time.  If you have comments enabled on wordpress, you will 
need to periodically get rid of the spam since there are many people out 
there comment-spamming wordpress sites.



If you are doing something very heavy duty Drupal might be a
candidate.


I'd say "avoid drupal unless you know you need it" but that's just MHO.

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Re: Article / Data warehouse cms software

2015-05-26 Thread Keith Smith

Hi Nathan,

Since you have familiarity with WordPress that might be a path to 
evaluate.  You might want to talk with Shawn Badger (he is on the PLUG 
list) about this.  I talked with him about 6 weeks ago about what 
Chandler PD is doing with WordPress.  Way beyond what I would have 
expected from WordPress.


I am not familiar with wikimedia and it's maintenance requirements.  I 
can say that WordPress does not require a lot of attention.


If you are doing something very heavy duty Drupal might be a candidate.  
I warn you that Drupal has a serious learning curve if you want to lean 
how to build modules... etc.  And the down site of Drupal is it requires 
a lot of attention.


Keith


On 2015-05-25 21:08, Nathan England wrote:

I have a project to store a lot of data. Articles, stories, and
encyclopedia type stuff. My first thought was to use a wiki
(wikimedia) as it makes the contents easily searchable, but what about
other cms systems like wordpress?

My question is, do any of you store lots of content which can be
edited occasionally, searched often, and constantly has new stuff
added? What do you use to store it in?

Another great benefit would be an easily backed up system, obviously a
wordpress/db or wiki/db would be easily backed up. But I also need the
ability to print in a basic format. And if I could access it and read
on my phone it would be even better.

I appreciate your thoughts and input!

Nathan England
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Re: OT? Are they really teaching this?

2015-05-26 Thread Anthony Radzykewycz
I would say that there are very biased instructors within the academic
world. I, for one, teach the Linux courses at GateWay Community College and
place a strong emphasis on what it is that they are learning and showing
them that they will see open source in a multitude of areas - even areas
they imagined it to be non-existent. I've had plenty of debates with my
colleagues (in academia and IT) regarding open source and utilizations of
Linux distros. Really, I feel it boils down to what you are doing and the
familiarity of the staff. I would never say that open source and Linux are
a waste of time... Then again, I suppose you are right when you mention
that you are preaching to the choir. To further my statements, I would like
to encourage you to look at what you have brought up and relate it to
individuals, academic freedom in instruction, and not correlate it with the
entire institution's constitution. If someone did that based on my classes
and GWCC, they may go back to say, "GateWay is anti-Microsoft." This would
be overall an inaccurate statement. Not that I am "anti-Microsoft," but I
could see a student getting that as a takeaway - due to my strong passion
for open source technologies and Linux.

To address the CompTIA certs: I also encourage my students to go get the
CompTIA certs, if they can. One really cool thing about CompTIA's Linux+
cert is that it is a 3-for-1 cert. If you pass CompTIA's tests, you get the
CompTIA Linux+, SUSE CLA, and the LPIC-1 certs. I personally feel that
there is a lot of value in that for students just entering the field. I do
agree that CompTIA certs are low-hanging fruit, but they also give that
extra support to get you in the door (if you lack the documented
experience). It's great to go further, and I also encourage that - but I
would never call the CompTIA certs worthless to those that are entering the
field in question.

On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Michael Butash  wrote:

> Comptia certs are pretty useless, unless your company pays you a bonus for
> every cert you get.  Then they're great as a shill for you exploiting your
> management's obvious lack clue that they *are* worth anything, and lack of
> better ways to incent you to learn something vs. gaming the system for more
> cash.  They've always been the low-hanging fruit.
>
> Anymore, not knowing linux is a death knell to a career in networking, it
> immediately limits your ability to automate and troubleshoot, well anything.
>
> Every Cisco, Arista, Juniper, whatever really box you'll see in a data
> center runs linux or like (juniper still loves bsd) underneath, although
> they don't of course market this any more than Google does for Android
> being linux underneath. Troubleshooting a nasty Cisco Nexus 7000 switch
> bug, they're likely to give you a "root patch" and ask you do do some stuff
> at a bash prompt (what linux?!).  Arista and some others don't hide bash
> from you, even (gasp!) documenting internal api's to replace/augment their
> software.
>
> Although the hardware does a lot of the heavy lifting, all the
> control-plane  of the devices are done from a linux userlands in almost
> every network platform now.  Especially since most companies like Cisco and
> Arista don't even make their own chips anymore, rather just buying them
> from Broadcom now that again is highly invested in linux as the
> control-plane of their SoC's. Switch vendors really do nothing more than
> write an api layer for users to configure features now.
>
> Furthermore, the "buzz" in networking is now about SDN, Software Defined
> Networking, which is something borne almost entirely of linux roots of some
> flavor, and you simply need to be able to manage or at least navigate under
> linux.  Linux kernel, advance ip routing features, namespace separation
> (ala routing vrf's), etc make that possible, regardless if Cisco, Oracle,
> or whoever puts a branded software layer over it and a pretty web or thick
> client (hopefully not java, eww).
>
> As stated by James, there is always bias for what you know, especially
> what pays your bills.  If they're teaching windoze technologies, of course
> their rhetoric against linux will pervade every bit of training that sense
> of "value" in buying/learning their closed software with micro$ofts puppet
> hand in their back doing the real talking.  Same of Cisco telling you how
> much better they are than Juniper or Arista, thought they all use the same
> hardware now, really comes down to features and who is less buggy (read:
> they all suck now).
>
> How often do you see a network class that *isn't* cisco-based? Not often,
> and if there were, I'd doubt it's value as you need something describing
> appliances or hardware use cases that come with having a cisco switch or
> other.  Having no love of Cisco these days myself, it's still the best
> documented, supported, and accepted (ie. respected) training avenues out
> there, buying a few $40 dollar switches on ebay/craigslist, and a li

Re: Article / Data warehouse cms software

2015-05-26 Thread Stephen Partington
CMS is really meant to be touched allot and make for easy updates, blogging
etc. Wiki is still a really good candidate, also knowledgebase systems
would be something to consider. whatever you use make sure it has a god
application of meta tagging.

In the end all that matters is searchability, layout, and entry for SME's.

On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 9:08 PM, Nathan England  wrote:

>
> I have a project to store a lot of data. Articles, stories, and
> encyclopedia type stuff. My first thought was to use a wiki (wikimedia) as
> it makes the contents easily searchable, but what about other cms systems
> like wordpress?
>
> My question is, do any of you store lots of content which can be edited
> occasionally, searched often, and constantly has new stuff added? What do
> you use to store it in?
>
> Another great benefit would be an easily backed up system, obviously a
> wordpress/db or wiki/db would be easily backed up. But I also need the
> ability to print in a basic format. And if I could access it and read on my
> phone it would be even better.
>
> I appreciate your thoughts and input!
>
> Nathan England
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