Re: Samba Connecting, cannot transfer files

2015-07-31 Thread James Dugger
I worked as a developer for the State developing and maintaining an
intranet based in Drupal 7.  The site served just under 2000 employees, 7
divisions contributed content to the site, which included department
events, rss feeds to the different program blogs, ties to social media,
traffic cam images of the freeways, forms and policies, employee handbook,
policies, programs, calendaring items, commenting, and comment
notifications, etc.

Lots of polices in the form of PDF's stored in the files folder under
default.  We had 3 years of versioning.  Tons of images of events,
programs, procedures, etc. The site consisted of about 320 modules
(including core), The main database (MySQL) had upwards of 285 tables.  The
site was a hybrid 2 frameworks and 2 MySQL databases,  Laravel and Drupal
7.  We used javascript plugins like social stream, the Twitter api,
Instagram's OAuth2 api.

The front end was built in Foundation 4, with SCSS for mobile first.  Lots
of jQuery.  All in all it was about 420,000 lines of code, between CSS,
JavaScript, PHP.  A SQL dump of the main database was about 55MB.  I
developed locally with a full copy on my MacBook Pro.  I didn't do the
initial build, a vendor did, I maintained and extended its features, and
spent a lot of time improving response times by tweaking the LAMP stack
settings, Drupal's config settings, and implementing cache.

Heavy use of Features, Context, Display Suite, Views, Flags, Rules, tons of
others etc.  all of the major modules, We were implementing Apache Solr and
Tika to crawl the pdf files and build an internal index of all the policies
etc. and create a faceted search feature for the site when I left the state
and started at my current position.

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 8:37 PM, Keith Smith 
wrote:

>
>
> I want to replace a LAMP dev box, that is an old laptop, which uses Samba
> so I can edit files right on the server - like what you described. It is
> really slick and a time saver. I am hoping to do so with VirtualBox.  I
> have an i5 desktop w/ 8G RAM.  It runs Mint 17 KDE.  I wanted to build
> multiple guests on VirtualBox to do LAMP development.  Exactly what you
> described.  I currently need CentOS 6 and Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.
>
> This is all on a private IP so I am not that concerned about security.
>
> I'll look into NAS.
>
> Thanks very much!!
>
> btw I'd like to hear more about your 1g Drupal install.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2015-07-31 19:42, James Dugger wrote:
>
>> ​Virtualbox has a plugin called Guest Additions which is an iso that
>> you can download, and configure to add file sharing capabilities
>> between the guest VM and the host system.  You can then mount a host
>> folder and it will show up as a native folder on the VM.  ​While
>> this is convenient and fairly easy to use it has a few draw backs.  It
>> can be slow to access and some have reported file corruption issues
>> when there are  a large amount of files and subfolders in the share.
>> This may not be an issue for you depending on use case.
>>
>> I use VirtualBox VM's as LAMP servers for local development and test
>> environments for my web application projects.  One Drupal project had
>> 1+GB of core/module/templates and custom templates in it.  Using Guest
>> Additions to share the document root folder of the project with my
>> MacBook Pro core i5 with 8 GB proved to be slow for the VM to render
>> the site in my test browsers (upwards of 10 - 20 seconds sometimes).
>> The fastest/simplest share setup was to use an NFS mount in the VM.
>>
>> If your file sharing use case is for Web development you may find that
>> samba is not any faster (even when you get it working) and may be
>> slower than Guest Additions (GA). Just an FYI.  I only use Samba as a
>> fileserver (NAS) when I have to have the share accessible to Windows,
>> Mac, and Linux machines.  There are other options besides NFS that
>> offer more security and more features for mission critical production
>> file sharing, but if your use case is simple local web
>> development/testing NFS is (I think) the simplest to implement. and
>> faster than GA or Samba.
>>
>> Just my 2 cents.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Keith Smith
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Not on both. Interesting on the "Vm writable" = yes does not show.
>>>
>>> There was a couple differences. The VN mirrors the one that works.
>>> restarted nmb and smb and still cannot write files. While I was
>>> researching this issue today I found that others were complaining
>>> about not being able to write to guest VM's on VirtualBox, Linux to
>>> Linux.
>>>
>>> I also found a reference that said VirtualBox has a way to to file
>>> transfers. I need to read it. Maybe this week end... I have other
>>> thing that need my attention. Sure would like to find an answer. I
>>> think it is a VirtualBox thing.
>>>
>>> Thank you for all your ideas and help!!
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>> On 2015-07-31 18:22, James Dugger wrote:
>>>
>>> ​Have you run testparm from the command line on both of your
>>> sa

Re: OT: Strong wireless signal on phone won't connect??

2015-07-31 Thread Stephen Partington
check the router for errors or mac address blocks?

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 9:49 PM,  wrote:

> Why is wifi failing to connect on one phone when others on my system
> connect okay?
>
> It says the signal is excellent and "Authenticating"
> with secured WPA/WPA2 PSK a correct password entered
> but then it says "disconnecting" and "disabled"
>
> Can't figure out why or how to fix the problem.
>
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OT: Strong wireless signal on phone won't connect??

2015-07-31 Thread joe
Why is wifi failing to connect on one phone when others on my system
connect okay?

It says the signal is excellent and "Authenticating"
with secured WPA/WPA2 PSK a correct password entered
but then it says "disconnecting" and "disabled"

Can't figure out why or how to fix the problem.



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Re: Samba Connecting, cannot transfer files

2015-07-31 Thread Keith Smith



I want to replace a LAMP dev box, that is an old laptop, which uses 
Samba so I can edit files right on the server - like what you described. 
It is really slick and a time saver. I am hoping to do so with 
VirtualBox.  I have an i5 desktop w/ 8G RAM.  It runs Mint 17 KDE.  I 
wanted to build multiple guests on VirtualBox to do LAMP development.  
Exactly what you described.  I currently need CentOS 6 and Ubuntu 14.04 
LTS.


This is all on a private IP so I am not that concerned about security.

I'll look into NAS.

Thanks very much!!

btw I'd like to hear more about your 1g Drupal install.




On 2015-07-31 19:42, James Dugger wrote:

​Virtualbox has a plugin called Guest Additions which is an iso that
you can download, and configure to add file sharing capabilities
between the guest VM and the host system.  You can then mount a host
folder and it will show up as a native folder on the VM.  ​While
this is convenient and fairly easy to use it has a few draw backs.  It
can be slow to access and some have reported file corruption issues
when there are  a large amount of files and subfolders in the share.
This may not be an issue for you depending on use case.

I use VirtualBox VM's as LAMP servers for local development and test
environments for my web application projects.  One Drupal project had
1+GB of core/module/templates and custom templates in it.  Using Guest
Additions to share the document root folder of the project with my
MacBook Pro core i5 with 8 GB proved to be slow for the VM to render
the site in my test browsers (upwards of 10 - 20 seconds sometimes).
The fastest/simplest share setup was to use an NFS mount in the VM.

If your file sharing use case is for Web development you may find that
samba is not any faster (even when you get it working) and may be
slower than Guest Additions (GA). Just an FYI.  I only use Samba as a
fileserver (NAS) when I have to have the share accessible to Windows,
Mac, and Linux machines.  There are other options besides NFS that
offer more security and more features for mission critical production
file sharing, but if your use case is simple local web
development/testing NFS is (I think) the simplest to implement. and
faster than GA or Samba.

Just my 2 cents.

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Keith Smith
 wrote:


Not on both. Interesting on the "Vm writable" = yes does not show.

There was a couple differences. The VN mirrors the one that works.
restarted nmb and smb and still cannot write files. While I was
researching this issue today I found that others were complaining
about not being able to write to guest VM's on VirtualBox, Linux to
Linux.

I also found a reference that said VirtualBox has a way to to file
transfers. I need to read it. Maybe this week end... I have other
thing that need my attention. Sure would like to find an answer. I
think it is a VirtualBox thing.

Thank you for all your ideas and help!!

Keith

On 2015-07-31 18:22, James Dugger wrote:

​Have you run testparm from the command line on both of your
samba
servers to see what is different between the servers​

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Keith Smith
 wrote:

I modified my valid user to correspond to yours.

[work]
path = /work
browsable = yes
writable = yes
read only = no
valid users = @keith +keith
write list = keith

The workstation runs Mint 17 KDE

The Samba share is on a VirtualBox guest running CentOS 6.6.

Permissions on the share are set to world writeable (777). The
directories created by using Dolphin are 755 but no files can be
added via Dolphin.

Owner is keith:keith

Both the host and the Samba have a user keith and same password.

Please note I have another Samba box on my network with a different
IP and mount point. Same user and password. This other Samba share
is working fine and is connected to by the fstab.

On 2015-07-31 12:48, James Dugger wrote:

I am assuming that you've checked the ownership of the files and
folders to ensure that user 'keith' and group 'keith' existing and
are
assigned correctly. If you are using the group keith, have you
added
the following line to your share in samba:

valid users = @keith +keith
The @ symbol indicates a group and a + indicates a samba username
to
add to the share. If the username 'keith' has been added to the
group
named 'keith' in /etc/group and the group ownership of all files
and
folders is listed as keith, than you should only need:
valid users = @keith
and it should be working.

If the ownership of the group is not correct. from the parent
directory of the share folder you may want to do:
chown -R keith:keith /

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Keith Smith
 wrote:

Thanks James!

It mounts OK and I can create directories, just cannot upload
files.

On 2015-07-31 11:24, James Dugger wrote:

​Have you checked for any conflicts in the options portion in the
mount statement of the drive where the share is located in the
fstab
file of the samba server ... with the mount statement on the samba
client box? Your cifs moun

Re: Samba Connecting, cannot transfer files

2015-07-31 Thread James Dugger
If you are looking for a fast way to get VirtualBox VM's up and running for
LAMP development you should install and look into using Vagrant.  It is a
provisioner which uses Ruby to automatically build VM's in VirtualBox.  I
have a simple setup of provisioning scripts that stand up LAMP servers
using Vagrant.  Feel free to use it, or make it your own.

https://github.com/netwidget/vagrant_dev_lamp

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 7:42 PM, James Dugger 
wrote:

> ​Virtualbox has a plugin called Guest Additions which is an iso that you
> can download, and configure to add file sharing capabilities between the
> guest VM and the host system.  You can then mount a host folder and it will
> show up as a native folder on the VM.  ​While this is convenient and fairly
> easy to use it has a few draw backs.  It can be slow to access and some
> have reported file corruption issues when there are  a large amount of
> files and subfolders in the share.  This may not be an issue for you
> depending on use case.
>
> I use VirtualBox VM's as LAMP servers for local development and test
> environments for my web application projects.  One Drupal project had 1+GB
> of core/module/templates and custom templates in it.  Using Guest Additions
> to share the document root folder of the project with my MacBook Pro core
> i5 with 8 GB proved to be slow for the VM to render the site in my test
> browsers (upwards of 10 - 20 seconds sometimes).  The fastest/simplest
> share setup was to use an NFS mount in the VM.
>
> If your file sharing use case is for Web development you may find that
> samba is not any faster (even when you get it working) and may be slower
> than Guest Additions (GA). Just an FYI.  I only use Samba as a fileserver
> (NAS) when I have to have the share accessible to Windows, Mac, and Linux
> machines.  There are other options besides NFS that offer more security and
> more features for mission critical production file sharing, but if your use
> case is simple local web development/testing NFS is (I think) the simplest
> to implement. and faster than GA or Samba.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Keith Smith 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Not on both.  Interesting on the "Vm writable" = yes does not show.
>>
>> There was a couple differences.  The VN mirrors the one that works.
>> restarted nmb and smb and still cannot write files.  While I was
>> researching this issue today I found that others were complaining about not
>> being able to write to guest VM's on VirtualBox, Linux to Linux.
>>
>> I also found a reference that said VirtualBox has a way to to file
>> transfers.  I need to read it.  Maybe this week end... I have other thing
>> that need my attention.  Sure would like to find an answer.  I think it is
>> a VirtualBox thing.
>>
>>
>> Thank you for all your ideas and help!!
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2015-07-31 18:22, James Dugger wrote:
>>
>>> ​Have you run testparm from the command line on both of your samba
>>> servers to see what is different between the servers​
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Keith Smith
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I modified my valid user to correspond to yours.

 [work]
 path = /work
 browsable = yes
 writable = yes
 read only = no
 valid users = @keith +keith
 write list = keith

 The workstation runs Mint 17 KDE

 The Samba share is on a VirtualBox guest running CentOS 6.6.

 Permissions on the share are set to world writeable (777). The
 directories created by using Dolphin are 755 but no files can be
 added via Dolphin.

 Owner is keith:keith

 Both the host and the Samba have a user keith and same password.

 Please note I have another Samba box on my network with a different
 IP and mount point. Same user and password. This other Samba share
 is working fine and is connected to by the fstab.

 On 2015-07-31 12:48, James Dugger wrote:

 I am assuming that you've checked the ownership of the files and
 folders to ensure that user 'keith' and group 'keith' existing and
 are
 assigned correctly. If you are using the group keith, have you
 added
 the following line to your share in samba:

 valid users = @keith +keith
 The @ symbol indicates a group and a + indicates a samba username
 to
 add to the share. If the username 'keith' has been added to the
 group
 named 'keith' in /etc/group and the group ownership of all files
 and
 folders is listed as keith, than you should only need:
 valid users = @keith
 and it should be working.

 If the ownership of the group is not correct. from the parent
 directory of the share folder you may want to do:
 chown -R keith:keith /

 On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Keith Smith
  wrote:

 Thanks James!

 It mounts OK and I can create directories, just cannot upload
 files.

 On 2015-07-31 11:24, Jam

Re: printf

2015-07-31 Thread Snyder, Alexander
I'm not working on anything specifically now, but the recent thread about
"xargs" vs. "-exec" got me thinking about it, I have seen and used column,
but (at the time) I was trying to create output in a table like
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
| header1 | header2 | header3 |
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
| value  |  value |  value |
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

so on and so forth.  I've seen that done, its fancy and I know that kind of
magic is done with printf (among other things) ... have you produced output
like that?

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On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 8:11 PM, sean  wrote:

> What sort of tables/output? Have you played with column (piping to column
> -t)?
> On Jul 31, 2015 8:08 PM, "Snyder, Alexander" 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all!
>>
>> I'm trying to find a tutorial that explains "PRINTF" as it relates to
>> usage in BASH, more specifically how to create tables based on output ...
>> aaand let's toss a bit of AWK in there, y'know just to complicate things
>> more, LOL.  I've tried reading the man page about PRINTF [
>> http://linux.die.net/man/1/printf ] ... I've seen various tutorials,
>> about BASH, ,TABLES, and AWK, but I'm just not finding anything that can
>> really tie it together ... preferably with examples and maybe some
>> screenshots?
>>
>> Has anyone found any really good tutorials?
>>
>> I look forward to any suggestions from the community!
>>
>> -Alex
>>
>>
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Re: ubuntu and kvm

2015-07-31 Thread Kevin Fries
Discover Vagrant and watch your happiness factor go through the roof.  I
don't do VMs any longer without it.  Lately been coupling it with Docker to
build apps for my Kubernetes cluster... swwt!

Kevin
On Jul 31, 2015 8:50 PM, "Amy Nielsen"  wrote:

> I got so fed up that I put crunch bang on here instead, and now I can run
> my vm's with both virtual box and vmware.
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Kevin Fries  wrote:
>
>> I ditched the buntus also about 2 years ago.  Had enough, and Unity just
>> sucks.  Not loving what Gnome has been doing lately to Gnome Shell either.
>> So my latest is Arch, with KDE5 Plasma... KDE started to annoy me, but the
>> activities desktops and yaquake are really starting to make me so much more
>> productive.
>>
>> But, back to the VMs...
>>
>> My company issued me a Windows7 desktop, and in a moment of insanity...
>> gave me admin rights.   I used to run Arch in a VM to do development work
>> in, then ssh'd to the servers.  I discovered MobaXTerm, and it made the
>> entire experience tolerable.
>>
>> Eventually, they issued me a Windows7 VM, and the Windows on my desktop
>> just became redundant.  So I pushed it to the side and installed Arch as
>> the primary booting OS.  For virtualizing Linux processes (i.e. to try out
>> something without polluting my day to day machine) I use Docker
>> Containers.  To run Windows processes, I have dedicated one of my four
>> desktops, on my default activity to Windows.  It runs that VM instance IT
>> set up for me, full screen using rdesktop and SeamlessRDP.  PERFECT!  Now
>> my regular desktop, and VM, are seamlessly integrated.
>>
>> The most fun was when our desktop admin asked me one day to pull
>> something up on my desktop... I knew that meant in Windows, which is on
>> desktop 1, and I was on Desktop 4.  CTRL->ALT->LEFT->UP and snap, I had the
>> desktop up... the screens flipped so quickly our a desktop admin almost got
>> dizzy.  I think he is now afraid of my desktop... ha ha ha ha
>>
>> Good Luck, but to the OP, I would ditch Ubuntu until they get their s
>> together.
>>
>> Kevin
>> On May 14, 2015 1:33 PM, "Nathan England"  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Your experience generally sums up every attempt I've made at making
>>> things work with any of the *buntu versions. I have spent enough time to
>>> get really frustrated with it and eventually go to something else.
>>>
>>> For a short time I was concerned because Fedora was too unstable with
>>> systemd, ubuntu just sucks for everything beyond running from a live disc
>>> (and even that half the time), and openSuSE while awesome would suddenly
>>> crap out after a few reboots. Never really figured that one out and was
>>> really disappointed.
>>>
>>> Finally with Fedora 21 things are stable again. F20 got better later in
>>> its life.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2015-05-13 17:31, Michael Butash wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for the comments from Stephen and James.

 This has unfortunately been a very frustrating experience, having
 tried VirtualBox, KVM, and now even VMware Workstation, just try to
 get something working, and each is fubar for some reason under ubuntu.

 Virtualbox always works well, but for some reason won't import the
 disk (some kind of uuid issue reading the disk image).
 KVM packages just seem broken under ubuntu, as does apparmor (as usual).
 VMware Workstation/Player 11 does nothing but give me "permission
 denied" when trying to make a vm as a user, then as root tells me
 there is no space left with 40gb in the volume.

 I haven't seen this many f'd up package or app installs under ubuntu
 in a while, though I expect it of VMware - they can't make linux
 clients to save their life.  KVM I was surprised to see it's as much a
 basketcase under ubuntu as it was.  Seems if people use it, they do so
 with the rh variants, for a reason.

 All I wanted was a stupid F5 load-balancer virtual appliance to run to
 lab, instead 3 days wasted.  Ugh.

 Thanks again all.

 -mb
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Installfest tomorrow at UAT

2015-07-31 Thread Walter Mack
The next Plug/Azloco installfest is being held this Saturday from 10 to 
4 at UAT in Tempe.


University of Advancing Technology: 2625 W Baseline,Tempe, AZ 85283 
(between 48th and Fry's)


Who? Anyone interested in learning more about open source or Linux is 
invited to a open workshop! We can just chat or we can install almost 
any version of Linux on your computer (you must bring everything needed 
to use your computer (e.g. monitor, keyboard, cords, router, server, etc).


What?: We can install most Linux distributions. We are also happy to 
guide you through fixing problems, answer your questions or simply 
discuss free software.


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Re: printf

2015-07-31 Thread sean
What sort of tables/output? Have you played with column (piping to column
-t)?
On Jul 31, 2015 8:08 PM, "Snyder, Alexander" 
wrote:

> Hello all!
>
> I'm trying to find a tutorial that explains "PRINTF" as it relates to
> usage in BASH, more specifically how to create tables based on output ...
> aaand let's toss a bit of AWK in there, y'know just to complicate things
> more, LOL.  I've tried reading the man page about PRINTF [
> http://linux.die.net/man/1/printf ] ... I've seen various tutorials,
> about BASH, ,TABLES, and AWK, but I'm just not finding anything that can
> really tie it together ... preferably with examples and maybe some
> screenshots?
>
> Has anyone found any really good tutorials?
>
> I look forward to any suggestions from the community!
>
> -Alex
>
>
> --
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printf

2015-07-31 Thread Snyder, Alexander
Hello all!

I'm trying to find a tutorial that explains "PRINTF" as it relates to usage
in BASH, more specifically how to create tables based on output ... aaand
let's toss a bit of AWK in there, y'know just to complicate things more,
LOL.  I've tried reading the man page about PRINTF [
http://linux.die.net/man/1/printf ] ... I've seen various tutorials, about
BASH, ,TABLES, and AWK, but I'm just not finding anything that can really
tie it together ... preferably with examples and maybe some screenshots?

Has anyone found any really good tutorials?

I look forward to any suggestions from the community!

-Alex


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Re: ubuntu and kvm

2015-07-31 Thread Amy Nielsen
I got so fed up that I put crunch bang on here instead, and now I can run
my vm's with both virtual box and vmware.

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Kevin Fries  wrote:

> I ditched the buntus also about 2 years ago.  Had enough, and Unity just
> sucks.  Not loving what Gnome has been doing lately to Gnome Shell either.
> So my latest is Arch, with KDE5 Plasma... KDE started to annoy me, but the
> activities desktops and yaquake are really starting to make me so much more
> productive.
>
> But, back to the VMs...
>
> My company issued me a Windows7 desktop, and in a moment of insanity...
> gave me admin rights.   I used to run Arch in a VM to do development work
> in, then ssh'd to the servers.  I discovered MobaXTerm, and it made the
> entire experience tolerable.
>
> Eventually, they issued me a Windows7 VM, and the Windows on my desktop
> just became redundant.  So I pushed it to the side and installed Arch as
> the primary booting OS.  For virtualizing Linux processes (i.e. to try out
> something without polluting my day to day machine) I use Docker
> Containers.  To run Windows processes, I have dedicated one of my four
> desktops, on my default activity to Windows.  It runs that VM instance IT
> set up for me, full screen using rdesktop and SeamlessRDP.  PERFECT!  Now
> my regular desktop, and VM, are seamlessly integrated.
>
> The most fun was when our desktop admin asked me one day to pull something
> up on my desktop... I knew that meant in Windows, which is on desktop 1,
> and I was on Desktop 4.  CTRL->ALT->LEFT->UP and snap, I had the desktop
> up... the screens flipped so quickly our a desktop admin almost got dizzy.
> I think he is now afraid of my desktop... ha ha ha ha
>
> Good Luck, but to the OP, I would ditch Ubuntu until they get their s
> together.
>
> Kevin
> On May 14, 2015 1:33 PM, "Nathan England"  wrote:
>
>>
>> Your experience generally sums up every attempt I've made at making
>> things work with any of the *buntu versions. I have spent enough time to
>> get really frustrated with it and eventually go to something else.
>>
>> For a short time I was concerned because Fedora was too unstable with
>> systemd, ubuntu just sucks for everything beyond running from a live disc
>> (and even that half the time), and openSuSE while awesome would suddenly
>> crap out after a few reboots. Never really figured that one out and was
>> really disappointed.
>>
>> Finally with Fedora 21 things are stable again. F20 got better later in
>> its life.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2015-05-13 17:31, Michael Butash wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the comments from Stephen and James.
>>>
>>> This has unfortunately been a very frustrating experience, having
>>> tried VirtualBox, KVM, and now even VMware Workstation, just try to
>>> get something working, and each is fubar for some reason under ubuntu.
>>>
>>> Virtualbox always works well, but for some reason won't import the
>>> disk (some kind of uuid issue reading the disk image).
>>> KVM packages just seem broken under ubuntu, as does apparmor (as usual).
>>> VMware Workstation/Player 11 does nothing but give me "permission
>>> denied" when trying to make a vm as a user, then as root tells me
>>> there is no space left with 40gb in the volume.
>>>
>>> I haven't seen this many f'd up package or app installs under ubuntu
>>> in a while, though I expect it of VMware - they can't make linux
>>> clients to save their life.  KVM I was surprised to see it's as much a
>>> basketcase under ubuntu as it was.  Seems if people use it, they do so
>>> with the rh variants, for a reason.
>>>
>>> All I wanted was a stupid F5 load-balancer virtual appliance to run to
>>> lab, instead 3 days wasted.  Ugh.
>>>
>>> Thanks again all.
>>>
>>> -mb
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Re: OT - sort of

2015-07-31 Thread Amy Nielsen
I have a 500 GB WD drive, and a 120 GB Samsung SSD; I run Linux Mint
currently and usually have several virtual machines of different distros,
always Linux. I have OS on SSD, use the WD drive for storage, etc.
Disabling some logs or changing what is logged, where, and throwing all
that type of data on WD drive so my SSD lives longer. I also enabled trim.
I may or may not have this right, time will tell. Between books and google,
I got enough information to be comfortable running the SSD. It is fast, and
so far great. I may need to adjust my partitioning to include lvm or not,
reading about that now. Most of the info I read said that SSD life span is
much better than before, but using Linux I think the tweaks do matter.

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:45 PM, Nathan England  wrote:

> I had an Intel drive, forget which series, which lasted me a couple years
> before I gave that laptop away to someone else, and they continue to use it
> now, which has been several more years.
>
> I currently have a couple Samsung 840 Pro's which are awesome.
>
> I completely intend to buy whatever Samsung pro is the next in line as
> soon as I need a new one. Unless I see a screamin' deal on an Intel.
>
>
>
>
> On 2015-06-23 12:00, Lyle Tuttle wrote:
>
> OK, the hard drive on my windows box is getting old, and every now and
> then during startup, I hear a short burst of "chattering"..no such
> problem on my Linux laptop, but it does not get as much use, either...
>
> I want to replace my aging hard drive with a solid state unit.
>
> Suggestions?  Advice?  Personal experiences to share?
>
> My Dell System was purchased in December 2010 (I but them heavily loaded,
> and hope they will still be good for a long time, hardware-wise.), and runs
> all day, every day I am home, which is most of the timeI started it
> shortly b4 5am today and will shut down about 10pmtypical day.I
> consider it pretty heavy use.
>
> TIA
>
> lyle
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Re: Samba Connecting, cannot transfer files

2015-07-31 Thread James Dugger
​Virtualbox has a plugin called Guest Additions which is an iso that you
can download, and configure to add file sharing capabilities between the
guest VM and the host system.  You can then mount a host folder and it will
show up as a native folder on the VM.  ​While this is convenient and fairly
easy to use it has a few draw backs.  It can be slow to access and some
have reported file corruption issues when there are  a large amount of
files and subfolders in the share.  This may not be an issue for you
depending on use case.

I use VirtualBox VM's as LAMP servers for local development and test
environments for my web application projects.  One Drupal project had 1+GB
of core/module/templates and custom templates in it.  Using Guest Additions
to share the document root folder of the project with my MacBook Pro core
i5 with 8 GB proved to be slow for the VM to render the site in my test
browsers (upwards of 10 - 20 seconds sometimes).  The fastest/simplest
share setup was to use an NFS mount in the VM.

If your file sharing use case is for Web development you may find that
samba is not any faster (even when you get it working) and may be slower
than Guest Additions (GA). Just an FYI.  I only use Samba as a fileserver
(NAS) when I have to have the share accessible to Windows, Mac, and Linux
machines.  There are other options besides NFS that offer more security and
more features for mission critical production file sharing, but if your use
case is simple local web development/testing NFS is (I think) the simplest
to implement. and faster than GA or Samba.

Just my 2 cents.

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Keith Smith 
wrote:

>
> Not on both.  Interesting on the "Vm writable" = yes does not show.
>
> There was a couple differences.  The VN mirrors the one that works.
> restarted nmb and smb and still cannot write files.  While I was
> researching this issue today I found that others were complaining about not
> being able to write to guest VM's on VirtualBox, Linux to Linux.
>
> I also found a reference that said VirtualBox has a way to to file
> transfers.  I need to read it.  Maybe this week end... I have other thing
> that need my attention.  Sure would like to find an answer.  I think it is
> a VirtualBox thing.
>
>
> Thank you for all your ideas and help!!
>
> Keith
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2015-07-31 18:22, James Dugger wrote:
>
>> ​Have you run testparm from the command line on both of your samba
>> servers to see what is different between the servers​
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Keith Smith
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I modified my valid user to correspond to yours.
>>>
>>> [work]
>>> path = /work
>>> browsable = yes
>>> writable = yes
>>> read only = no
>>> valid users = @keith +keith
>>> write list = keith
>>>
>>> The workstation runs Mint 17 KDE
>>>
>>> The Samba share is on a VirtualBox guest running CentOS 6.6.
>>>
>>> Permissions on the share are set to world writeable (777). The
>>> directories created by using Dolphin are 755 but no files can be
>>> added via Dolphin.
>>>
>>> Owner is keith:keith
>>>
>>> Both the host and the Samba have a user keith and same password.
>>>
>>> Please note I have another Samba box on my network with a different
>>> IP and mount point. Same user and password. This other Samba share
>>> is working fine and is connected to by the fstab.
>>>
>>> On 2015-07-31 12:48, James Dugger wrote:
>>>
>>> I am assuming that you've checked the ownership of the files and
>>> folders to ensure that user 'keith' and group 'keith' existing and
>>> are
>>> assigned correctly. If you are using the group keith, have you
>>> added
>>> the following line to your share in samba:
>>>
>>> valid users = @keith +keith
>>> The @ symbol indicates a group and a + indicates a samba username
>>> to
>>> add to the share. If the username 'keith' has been added to the
>>> group
>>> named 'keith' in /etc/group and the group ownership of all files
>>> and
>>> folders is listed as keith, than you should only need:
>>> valid users = @keith
>>> and it should be working.
>>>
>>> If the ownership of the group is not correct. from the parent
>>> directory of the share folder you may want to do:
>>> chown -R keith:keith /
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Keith Smith
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks James!
>>>
>>> It mounts OK and I can create directories, just cannot upload
>>> files.
>>>
>>> On 2015-07-31 11:24, James Dugger wrote:
>>>
>>> ​Have you checked for any conflicts in the options portion in the
>>> mount statement of the drive where the share is located in the
>>> fstab
>>> file of the samba server ... with the mount statement on the samba
>>> client box? Your cifs mount statement calls for the username
>>> option.
>>> ​, does the mount statement for the drive where the file being
>>> shared on the server allow this user name option?​
>>> ​
>>> ​
>>>
>>> I'm mounting the actual drive on my samba server as ext4 with
>>> defaults. I am mounting the share on two mac boxes using cifs.
>>> ​ My shares a

Re: O/T : Looking for an entry level LAMP developer for contract work.

2015-07-31 Thread Amy Nielsen
I think problem solving skills are vital, because no matter who you are
chances are that eventually something will break and you are not familiar
with the system at all. You may know Linux, Windows, Servers, but what
broke was internet protocol settings, which you don't work on normally.
Using the same process for every problem will work, and then you can
identify the information to read to learn your fix. Identify the actual
problem, including the priority and level of impact on the company. Using
your knowledge of what is working right, you should be able to come up with
a theory, an educated guess. Next, assuming you are right, you would try
out the tool or setting that will fix the hypothetical issue to see if it
works. If not, try again. If so, then document everything, your knowledge,
your guesses, your steps towards the fix. Then test it to see if everything
has returned to normal functionality, and test thoroughly. If you still
have problems, no worries, because every time you get it wrong you still
know more, and either success of failure needs documentation. Some time
down the road another person can use your information to fix their problem.
When you don't have any ideas, it is time to consult any available
documentation, manuals, forums are very helpful, not forgetting good old
google. If you can reach out to a friend in the industry great. Most
important is not knowing how to fix something, it is knowing how to find
information because then there is nothing you can't do with the right book
or help.

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Keith Smith 
wrote:

>
> why lock records on a read?
>
>
>
> On 2015-07-31 16:24, David Schwartz wrote:
>
>> Here’s something:
>>
>> A while back I had a contract in a support Dept at a Big Corp in town.
>> When I started, I was told, “Don’t do anything except hold their
>> hands.”
>>
>> One Friday morning about two weeks into the contract, I arrived at
>> work and everybody in my Dept was gone except me. I wasn’t alerted
>> ahead of time.
>>
>> Around 11:45 AM, three people appeared at my cube door: the FInance
>> Mgr (head of Dept), Payroll Mgr, and someone else.
>>
>> The FM said, “I guess you’re the only Support person here today.” I
>> said, “Looks that way.”
>>
>> He said, “Look, we’ve got a problem here and I need you to get it
>> fixed. TODAY. If you don’t your contract is caput. We need someone who
>> can fix this crap NOW.”
>>
>> As far as SteveT’s question goes … THIS IS PURE PROBLEM-SOLVING
>> ABILITY. I had no exposure or knowledge to their system at all. I’d
>> been there for 2 weeks and didn’t have a clue about their software,
>> hardware, network, or anything.
>>
>>
>> I’m like, “Well, ok. What’s the problem?”
>>
>> They proceeded to explain it to me … which I’ll summarize here only
>> because some of you will get a chuckle out of it.
>>
>> Payroll starts running their check run at 11:30 AM.  After about 10
>> minutes, it hangs-up. They have to abort the run, void the checks, and
>> start over. It usually keeps happening. They run it specifically over
>> lunch because most of the Financial Dept is at lunch, so nobody’s
>> online.
>>
>> I poked around and noticed there were a couple of people running
>> reports, including the gal in the cube next to me. (They ran these
>> reports that went to Epsons dot-matrix printers and they’d run for
>> about 45 minutes.)
>>
>> BTW, this is some kind of accounting system running on a bunch of old
>> DOS machines (circa 1995) hooked into a Banyan Vines LAN, sharing
>> access to files on a file server.
>>
>> I looked at how the gal in the next cube ran her reports. It was a
>> batch file that looked like this:
>>
>> runrptapp.exe xyz abc >lpt
>>
>> (I forget what devices were on DOS, but … notice the right-arrow.)
>>
>> Digging around, I discovered that this app, which I’m calling
>> runrptapp.exe, opens the database file on the server, which happens to
>> be the same database file the Payroll app used. It was a very popular
>> database back then (i forget the name, but it’s not dBase). I happened
>> to know that that particular database used FILE-LEVEL locking.
>>
>> Notice the right-arrow …
>>
>> Question: who starts off their reports first: the gal in the next
>> cube, or Payroll?
>>
>> Answer: gal in the next cube! At 11 AM, because she needs it for a 2PM
>> meeting, and it usually crashes over lunch and needs to be restarted.
>>
>> Did you notice the right-arrow ...
>>
>> What happens is she runs her report and the printer is fed data in
>> real-time as the report extracts records from the DB. After a while,
>> it has extracted as much as it can before the print buffer gets filled
>> up, and it starts to crawl along.
>>
>> Some time after she starts runnign her report (15-20 mins), the
>> Payroll Dept starts their check run.
>>
>> It access the same DB.
>>
>> Notice that right-arrow … and think, “file-level locking” … and
>> “Payroll wants to run against this DB at the same time …
>>
>> hmmm …. changed the BAT 

Re: O/T : Looking for an entry level LAMP developer for contract work.

2015-07-31 Thread David Schwartz
ahh, I remember … it was BTrieve.

It supported record-level locks, but it started with a file lock. 

IIRC, a record-lock eased the file lock from RW to RO.

But there were tons of folks who didn’t bother with adding calls to do record 
locks into their code.

And lots of reporting modules didn’t bother. But they’d collide with anybody 
else who tried to do extensive RW operations.

I don’t recall the details, but I recall seeing this proble crop up several 
times at different places.

-David "The Tool Wiz" Schwartz



> On Jul 31, 2015, at 6:22 PM, Keith Smith  wrote:
> 
> 
> why lock records on a read?
> 
> 

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Re: do we have a community outreach program?

2015-07-31 Thread Amy Nielsen
i would just jump in the ocean, it must be better than a swimming pool!


On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> people hear complain about the heat and I just laugh and say that
> people in Florida have no idea. One of the women I know down here has
> a brother that lives in Phoenix and I'm told that he says the same
> thing,. It is paradise here! You sweat because of the humidity but it
> is not hot here. The weather guys talk about a heat index, or what it
> feels like, and I say that is Bologna. 99 degrees with the heat index
> making it feel 110 does not feel like 110. it feels like 99 but your
> sweat doesn't feel like an evaporative cooler.
>
> On 7/31/15, Amy Nielsen  wrote:
> > Well enjoy Florida! Okay, I will do my best. I had my ankle fused in May
> > and next week will start physical therapy, and hopefully I will be good
> to
> > drive in a couple weeks. As soon as I am able to drive, I will go to the
> > next installfest. Is there anyone else you have been talking about this
> > with that I should talk to? Well good luck, Florida has to be better than
> > Arizona summertime!
> > Amy
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 3:44 AM, Michael Havens 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Amy, you'll have to take the gauntlet as I am now in Florida.
> >>
> >> On 7/31/15, Amy Nielsen  wrote:
> >> > Maybe bring up at an installfest meeting? For the record, I would
> >> volunteer
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Michael Havens 
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> If I was still in the Phoenixarea I would be most happy too.
> >> >> Unfortunately
> >> >> I am moving out of state  even in July.
> >> >>
> >> >> :-)~MIKE~(-:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Keith Smith
> >> >>  >> >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> On 2015-05-21 22:32, Eric Oyen wrote:
> >> >>>
> >>  hmmm. thats not a bad idea. It might also be helpful to the
> disabled
> >>  population (of which I am one, being totally blind). Since I use
> >>  ubuntu with the orca screen reader here on an old toshiba laptop
> >>  that
> >>  was graciously donated to me by another member of plug over 7 years
> >>  ago, it has been used a lot. Mostly, I use it to control the
> various
> >>  pieces of ham radio gear I have (using the HamLib package) It also
> >>  makes radio programming a bit easier when I have to use chirp
> (Linux
> >>  is about the only environment where that program is even minimally
> >>  accessible using a screen reader). btw, there is also an
> >>  accessibility
> >>  list over at Ubuntu where the various screen readers and how to use
> >>  them are discussed. There is also the Vinux project which was
> >>  specifically designed for blind computer users.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >>> Very interesting.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Combine this with a community outreach program (say for big
> >>  brothers/big sisters or the YMCA or the United way) and you might
> >>  just
> >>  start a whole new generation of Linux users (and programmers) who
> >>  won't have to put up with the failing business model that is
> >>  Microsoft.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Several members of the Tucson Free Unix Group converted a school to
> >> >>> Linux
> >> >>> about 15 years ago using used computers donated by one or more local
> >> >>> businesses.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I worked in a business 17 years ago that had 650 employees.  Think
> >> about
> >> >>> that.  Over a 3 or 4 year period they would replace every one of
> >> >>> those
> >> >>> computers.  Those used computers still have many years of life in
> >> >>> them
> >> >>> and
> >> >>> by replacing M$ with Linux the old computer has a new life.  My
> >> >>> experience
> >> >>> is Linux needs less resources and old iron will perform decently
> >> >>> especially
> >> >>> if it is only 3 - 4 - 5 years old.  I have an 8 year old box that
> >> >>> would
> >> >>> do
> >> >>> fine running Mint. And I suspect it could do so for 5 or more years.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I think the real issue is finding the volunteers to do all this
> work.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> -eric (the other eric :) ).
> >> 
> >>  On May 21, 2015, at 4:31 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
> >> 
> >>  You know, thrift stores (other than goodwill) has used computers
> >> coming
> >> > out of their ears. I think we need to find a thrift store that
> >> > wants
> >> > to
> >> > unload all of this used hardware for like 25 dollars apiece and
> put
> >> > Linux
> >> > on it and get these fully functional and modern computers out to
> >> > the
> >> > people
> >> > who need them. If you buy a modern windows computer it isn't even
> >> > fully
> >> > functional unless you pay for a subscription to something. I'm
> >> partial
> >> > to
> >> > Linux Mint but that is up for debate.
> >> > :-)~MIKE~(-:
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Re: Samba Connecting, cannot transfer files

2015-07-31 Thread Keith Smith


Not on both.  Interesting on the "Vm writable" = yes does not show.

There was a couple differences.  The VN mirrors the one that works. 
restarted nmb and smb and still cannot write files.  While I was 
researching this issue today I found that others were complaining about 
not being able to write to guest VM's on VirtualBox, Linux to Linux.


I also found a reference that said VirtualBox has a way to to file 
transfers.  I need to read it.  Maybe this week end... I have other 
thing that need my attention.  Sure would like to find an answer.  I 
think it is a VirtualBox thing.



Thank you for all your ideas and help!!

Keith






On 2015-07-31 18:22, James Dugger wrote:

​Have you run testparm from the command line on both of your samba
servers to see what is different between the servers​

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Keith Smith
 wrote:


I modified my valid user to correspond to yours.

[work]
path = /work
browsable = yes
writable = yes
read only = no
valid users = @keith +keith
write list = keith

The workstation runs Mint 17 KDE

The Samba share is on a VirtualBox guest running CentOS 6.6.

Permissions on the share are set to world writeable (777). The
directories created by using Dolphin are 755 but no files can be
added via Dolphin.

Owner is keith:keith

Both the host and the Samba have a user keith and same password.

Please note I have another Samba box on my network with a different
IP and mount point. Same user and password. This other Samba share
is working fine and is connected to by the fstab.

On 2015-07-31 12:48, James Dugger wrote:

I am assuming that you've checked the ownership of the files and
folders to ensure that user 'keith' and group 'keith' existing and
are
assigned correctly. If you are using the group keith, have you
added
the following line to your share in samba:

valid users = @keith +keith
The @ symbol indicates a group and a + indicates a samba username
to
add to the share. If the username 'keith' has been added to the
group
named 'keith' in /etc/group and the group ownership of all files
and
folders is listed as keith, than you should only need:
valid users = @keith
and it should be working.

If the ownership of the group is not correct. from the parent
directory of the share folder you may want to do:
chown -R keith:keith /

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Keith Smith
 wrote:

Thanks James!

It mounts OK and I can create directories, just cannot upload
files.

On 2015-07-31 11:24, James Dugger wrote:

​Have you checked for any conflicts in the options portion in the
mount statement of the drive where the share is located in the
fstab
file of the samba server ... with the mount statement on the samba
client box? Your cifs mount statement calls for the username
option.
​, does the mount statement for the drive where the file being
shared on the server allow this user name option?​
​
​

I'm mounting the actual drive on my samba server as ext4 with
defaults. I am mounting the share on two mac boxes using cifs.
​ My shares are used for backup not daily rw activity.​

Are you mounting using cifs ?

My share is in CentOS 6.6 and my desktop is Mint 17 kde.

I have a samba server on a LAMP dev box and it mounds just fine
using
cifs with the mount command being in the fstab.

I wonder if there is a conflix between the two boxes or if there
is
something I am missing.

I spun up a minimul CentOS VM and can ping etc. Turned off
SElinux
and IPTables. Installed and configured Samba and the same thing is
happening.

I can connect and brows just not upload files. I can even create
directories.

I set the share to 0777.

Could this be a VM thing?

On 2015-07-26 19:01, James Dugger wrote:

I set up my own share declaration at the end of the smb.conf file.
For example I have a simple one called [archive] that allows
backups
to be placed on a server running Ubuntu 15.04 server edition.

I create the samba users and passwords for each user (these match
their unix user accounts)
I set the appropriate unix permissions for the group that I want
typically 775.
I create a group called "archive" in /etc/group and then add all
of
the users who are to have access to it into the archive group.
the valid users = @group_name is the key that allows samba to
control
the access to samba share.

The key is add the the users to the group in /etc/group and to make
sure that they have a mapped samba username and password.

[archive]
comment = backup drive
path = /srv/archive
browseable = yes
guest ok = no
valid users = @archive

There are other options but I usually find that the I forget to
update
the /etc/group file.

Hope that helps

On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Keith Smith
 wrote:

Thanks for the link.

My smbpasswd is in /usr/bin/smbpasswd

Just to make sure I : touch /etc/samba/smbpasswd

then I :
smbpasswd -x username
smbpasswd -a username

still same issue.

Remove /etc/samba/smbpasswd

I've created several directories off of /work/ on the samba
server
using the Samba server's command

Re: Samba Connecting, cannot transfer files

2015-07-31 Thread James Dugger
​Have you run testparm from the command line on both of your samba servers
to see what is different between the servers​

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Keith Smith 
wrote:

>
> I modified my valid user to correspond to yours.
>
>
> [work]
> path = /work
> browsable = yes
> writable = yes
> read only = no
> valid users = @keith +keith
> write list = keith
>
>
> The workstation runs Mint 17 KDE
>
> The Samba share is on a VirtualBox guest running CentOS 6.6.
>
> Permissions on the share are set to world writeable (777).  The
> directories created by using Dolphin are 755 but no files can be added via
> Dolphin.
>
> Owner is keith:keith
>
> Both the host and the Samba have a user keith and  same password.
>
> Please note I have another Samba box on my network with a different IP and
> mount point.  Same user and password.  This other Samba share is working
> fine and is connected to by the fstab.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2015-07-31 12:48, James Dugger wrote:
>
>> I am assuming that you've checked the ownership of the files and
>> folders to ensure that user 'keith' and group 'keith' existing and are
>> assigned correctly.  If you are using the group keith, have you added
>> the following line to your share in samba:
>>
>> valid users = @keith +keith
>> The @ symbol indicates a group and a + indicates a samba username to
>> add to the share.  If the username 'keith' has been added to the group
>> named 'keith' in /etc/group and the group ownership of all files and
>> folders is listed as keith, than you should only need:
>> valid users = @keith
>> and it should be working.
>>
>> If the ownership of the group is not correct.  from the parent
>> directory of the share folder you may want to do:
>> chown -R keith:keith /
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Keith Smith
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks James!
>>>
>>> It mounts OK and I can create directories, just cannot upload
>>> files.
>>>
>>> On 2015-07-31 11:24, James Dugger wrote:
>>>
>>> ​Have you checked for any conflicts in the options portion in the
>>> mount statement of the drive where the share is located in the
>>> fstab
>>> file of the samba server ... with the mount statement on the samba
>>> client box? Your cifs mount statement calls for the username
>>> option.
>>> ​, does the mount statement for the drive where the file being
>>> shared on the server allow this user name option?​
>>> ​
>>> ​
>>>
>>> I'm mounting the actual drive on my samba server as ext4 with
>>> defaults. I am mounting the share on two mac boxes using cifs.
>>> ​ My shares are used for backup not daily rw activity.​
>>>
>>> Are you mounting using cifs ?
>>>
>>> My share is in CentOS 6.6 and my desktop is Mint 17 kde.
>>>
>>> I have a samba server on a LAMP dev box and it mounds just fine
>>> using
>>> cifs with the mount command being in the fstab.
>>>
>>> I wonder if there is a conflix between the two boxes or if there
>>> is
>>> something I am missing.
>>>
>>> I spun up a minimul CentOS VM and can ping etc. Turned off
>>> SElinux
>>> and IPTables. Installed and configured Samba and the same thing is
>>> happening.
>>>
>>> I can connect and brows just not upload files. I can even create
>>> directories.
>>>
>>> I set the share to 0777.
>>>
>>> Could this be a VM thing?
>>>
>>> On 2015-07-26 19:01, James Dugger wrote:
>>>
>>> I set up my own share declaration at the end of the smb.conf file.
>>> For example I have a simple one called [archive] that allows
>>> backups
>>> to be placed on a server running Ubuntu 15.04 server edition.
>>>
>>> I create the samba users and passwords for each user (these match
>>> their unix user accounts)
>>> I set the appropriate unix permissions for the group that I want
>>> typically 775.
>>> I create a group called "archive" in /etc/group and then add all
>>> of
>>> the users who are to have access to it into the archive group.
>>> the valid users = @group_name is the key that allows samba to
>>> control
>>> the access to samba share.
>>>
>>> The key is add the the users to the group in /etc/group and to make
>>> sure that they have a mapped samba username and password.
>>>
>>> [archive]
>>> comment = backup drive
>>> path = /srv/archive
>>> browseable = yes
>>> guest ok = no
>>> valid users = @archive
>>>
>>> There are other options but I usually find that the I forget to
>>> update
>>> the /etc/group file.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Keith Smith
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the link.
>>>
>>> My smbpasswd is in /usr/bin/smbpasswd
>>>
>>> Just to make sure I : touch /etc/samba/smbpasswd
>>>
>>> then I :
>>> smbpasswd -x username
>>> smbpasswd -a username
>>>
>>> still same issue.
>>>
>>> Remove /etc/samba/smbpasswd
>>>
>>> I've created several directories off of /work/ on the samba
>>> server
>>> using the Samba server's command line. Using Dolphin on my
>>> desktop
>>> I can add directories to /work/ - they have correct permissions
>>> and
>>> ownership. However I get 

Re: O/T : Looking for an entry level LAMP developer for contract work.

2015-07-31 Thread Keith Smith


why lock records on a read?



On 2015-07-31 16:24, David Schwartz wrote:

Here’s something:

A while back I had a contract in a support Dept at a Big Corp in town.
When I started, I was told, “Don’t do anything except hold their
hands.”

One Friday morning about two weeks into the contract, I arrived at
work and everybody in my Dept was gone except me. I wasn’t alerted
ahead of time.

Around 11:45 AM, three people appeared at my cube door: the FInance
Mgr (head of Dept), Payroll Mgr, and someone else.

The FM said, “I guess you’re the only Support person here today.” I
said, “Looks that way.”

He said, “Look, we’ve got a problem here and I need you to get it
fixed. TODAY. If you don’t your contract is caput. We need someone who
can fix this crap NOW.”

As far as SteveT’s question goes … THIS IS PURE PROBLEM-SOLVING
ABILITY. I had no exposure or knowledge to their system at all. I’d
been there for 2 weeks and didn’t have a clue about their software,
hardware, network, or anything.


I’m like, “Well, ok. What’s the problem?”

They proceeded to explain it to me … which I’ll summarize here only
because some of you will get a chuckle out of it.

Payroll starts running their check run at 11:30 AM.  After about 10
minutes, it hangs-up. They have to abort the run, void the checks, and
start over. It usually keeps happening. They run it specifically over
lunch because most of the Financial Dept is at lunch, so nobody’s
online.

I poked around and noticed there were a couple of people running
reports, including the gal in the cube next to me. (They ran these
reports that went to Epsons dot-matrix printers and they’d run for
about 45 minutes.)

BTW, this is some kind of accounting system running on a bunch of old
DOS machines (circa 1995) hooked into a Banyan Vines LAN, sharing
access to files on a file server.

I looked at how the gal in the next cube ran her reports. It was a
batch file that looked like this:

runrptapp.exe xyz abc >lpt

(I forget what devices were on DOS, but … notice the right-arrow.)

Digging around, I discovered that this app, which I’m calling
runrptapp.exe, opens the database file on the server, which happens to
be the same database file the Payroll app used. It was a very popular
database back then (i forget the name, but it’s not dBase). I happened
to know that that particular database used FILE-LEVEL locking.

Notice the right-arrow …

Question: who starts off their reports first: the gal in the next
cube, or Payroll?

Answer: gal in the next cube! At 11 AM, because she needs it for a 2PM
meeting, and it usually crashes over lunch and needs to be restarted.

Did you notice the right-arrow ...

What happens is she runs her report and the printer is fed data in
real-time as the report extracts records from the DB. After a while,
it has extracted as much as it can before the print buffer gets filled
up, and it starts to crawl along.

Some time after she starts runnign her report (15-20 mins), the
Payroll Dept starts their check run.

It access the same DB.

Notice that right-arrow … and think, “file-level locking” … and
“Payroll wants to run against this DB at the same time …

hmmm …. changed the BAT file to this:

runrptapp.exe xyz abc >temprpt.txt
copy temprpt.txt lpt1

The report took about 15 seconds to run, then it started printing it
from the local copy on the disk.

VIOLA! PROBLEM SOLVED.   sort of …

Monday morning I had another manager wating at my door when I arrived.
“Weren’t you told not to fix anything for these people? JUST HOLD
THEIR HANDS, right?”

"Well, the Finance Mgr said if I didn’t do SOMETHING he’d fire me.”



The vendor had sent out their top support people, and even sent their
DEVELOPERS, and NOBODY had been able to fix this problem. They even
had some support guys from Banyan come out, and they couldn’t fix it
either.

Turns out, the Finance Dept didn’t like this piece of software and it
came with a 90-day money-back guarantee. They wanted their money back.

Nobody else who’d tried to fix this problem, including the SMEs,
couldn’t solve it.

But silly me … it took me about 15 minutes to fix it. With no
subject-matter expertise at all.

And a week later, my contract was terminated. :o


So it doesn’t surprize me when people report they have trouble finding
folks with good problem solving skills.

Unfortunately, the kinds of questions I get in interviews don’t go
into this at all. They’re mostly general stuff, trick questions, and
things intended to get a feeling of how good you are with existing
tools.

This is the problem. If people have good problem-solving skills, they
CAN figure this shit out, no matter what.

But if you don’t know the tools, and regardless of you problem-solving
skills, BZZZTTT! You’re DISQUALIFIED!

I’ve also worked at several places where we encountered LAN problems,
and after a couple of days with their “A+ Certified,” “Novell
Certified," and “Microsoft Certified” experts being unable to solve
server/workstation issues that were holding me

Re: O/T : Looking for an entry level LAMP developer for contract work.

2015-07-31 Thread Keith Smith


A guy I grew up with went to junior college for a year and then went to 
Texas Instruments - this was about 1977.  He told me they would swap 
chip that did not make it though qa because of the stuff printed on them 
was not good enough or other minor defects that would not effect the 
chip's functionality.  Along the way he started hacking the Apple II and 
at one job early on the developers were having difficulty getting an app 
to work and they were just about to scarp it because they could not 
figure it out.


He says he asked to have a crack at it and they gave him a week.  He 
said he fixed it a day and from that point on her was a programmer.  He 
is now doing well in upper management with his 1 year of college.





On 2015-07-31 16:24, David Schwartz wrote:

Here’s something:

A while back I had a contract in a support Dept at a Big Corp in town.
When I started, I was told, “Don’t do anything except hold their
hands.”

One Friday morning about two weeks into the contract, I arrived at
work and everybody in my Dept was gone except me. I wasn’t alerted
ahead of time.

Around 11:45 AM, three people appeared at my cube door: the FInance
Mgr (head of Dept), Payroll Mgr, and someone else.

The FM said, “I guess you’re the only Support person here today.” I
said, “Looks that way.”

He said, “Look, we’ve got a problem here and I need you to get it
fixed. TODAY. If you don’t your contract is caput. We need someone who
can fix this crap NOW.”

As far as SteveT’s question goes … THIS IS PURE PROBLEM-SOLVING
ABILITY. I had no exposure or knowledge to their system at all. I’d
been there for 2 weeks and didn’t have a clue about their software,
hardware, network, or anything.


I’m like, “Well, ok. What’s the problem?”

They proceeded to explain it to me … which I’ll summarize here only
because some of you will get a chuckle out of it.

Payroll starts running their check run at 11:30 AM.  After about 10
minutes, it hangs-up. They have to abort the run, void the checks, and
start over. It usually keeps happening. They run it specifically over
lunch because most of the Financial Dept is at lunch, so nobody’s
online.

I poked around and noticed there were a couple of people running
reports, including the gal in the cube next to me. (They ran these
reports that went to Epsons dot-matrix printers and they’d run for
about 45 minutes.)

BTW, this is some kind of accounting system running on a bunch of old
DOS machines (circa 1995) hooked into a Banyan Vines LAN, sharing
access to files on a file server.

I looked at how the gal in the next cube ran her reports. It was a
batch file that looked like this:

runrptapp.exe xyz abc >lpt

(I forget what devices were on DOS, but … notice the right-arrow.)

Digging around, I discovered that this app, which I’m calling
runrptapp.exe, opens the database file on the server, which happens to
be the same database file the Payroll app used. It was a very popular
database back then (i forget the name, but it’s not dBase). I happened
to know that that particular database used FILE-LEVEL locking.

Notice the right-arrow …

Question: who starts off their reports first: the gal in the next
cube, or Payroll?

Answer: gal in the next cube! At 11 AM, because she needs it for a 2PM
meeting, and it usually crashes over lunch and needs to be restarted.

Did you notice the right-arrow ...

What happens is she runs her report and the printer is fed data in
real-time as the report extracts records from the DB. After a while,
it has extracted as much as it can before the print buffer gets filled
up, and it starts to crawl along.

Some time after she starts runnign her report (15-20 mins), the
Payroll Dept starts their check run.

It access the same DB.

Notice that right-arrow … and think, “file-level locking” … and
“Payroll wants to run against this DB at the same time …

hmmm …. changed the BAT file to this:

runrptapp.exe xyz abc >temprpt.txt
copy temprpt.txt lpt1

The report took about 15 seconds to run, then it started printing it
from the local copy on the disk.

VIOLA! PROBLEM SOLVED.   sort of …

Monday morning I had another manager wating at my door when I arrived.
“Weren’t you told not to fix anything for these people? JUST HOLD
THEIR HANDS, right?”

"Well, the Finance Mgr said if I didn’t do SOMETHING he’d fire me.”



The vendor had sent out their top support people, and even sent their
DEVELOPERS, and NOBODY had been able to fix this problem. They even
had some support guys from Banyan come out, and they couldn’t fix it
either.

Turns out, the Finance Dept didn’t like this piece of software and it
came with a 90-day money-back guarantee. They wanted their money back.

Nobody else who’d tried to fix this problem, including the SMEs,
couldn’t solve it.

But silly me … it took me about 15 minutes to fix it. With no
subject-matter expertise at all.

And a week later, my contract was terminated. :o


So it doesn’t surprize me when people report they have trouble finding
folks with good p

Re: xargs guide

2015-07-31 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:43:52 -0700
"Snyder, Alexander"  wrote:

> Yes!  I love xargs, because of its power, but prefer -exec because
> xargs seems to freak out with blank spaces.  I'll read today!

Thanks Alexander!

I added some content on how to get xargs to better handle spaces and
punctuation (-0 and -d"\n" for instance). And I added a section about
the document's scope basically explaining that find | xargs is an
academic example, and that if all you're using is find and xargs,
you're better off doing just what you say above: Just using find -exec.

The changes have been added to
http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/xargs.htm

Thanks for your help.

SteveT

Steve Litt 
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http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21
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Re: O/T : Looking for an entry level LAMP developer for contract work.

2015-07-31 Thread David Schwartz
Here’s something:

A while back I had a contract in a support Dept at a Big Corp in town. When I 
started, I was told, “Don’t do anything except hold their hands.”

One Friday morning about two weeks into the contract, I arrived at work and 
everybody in my Dept was gone except me. I wasn’t alerted ahead of time.

Around 11:45 AM, three people appeared at my cube door: the FInance Mgr (head 
of Dept), Payroll Mgr, and someone else.

The FM said, “I guess you’re the only Support person here today.” I said, 
“Looks that way.”

He said, “Look, we’ve got a problem here and I need you to get it fixed. TODAY. 
If you don’t your contract is caput. We need someone who can fix this crap NOW.”

As far as SteveT’s question goes … THIS IS PURE PROBLEM-SOLVING ABILITY. I had 
no exposure or knowledge to their system at all. I’d been there for 2 weeks and 
didn’t have a clue about their software, hardware, network, or anything.


I’m like, “Well, ok. What’s the problem?”

They proceeded to explain it to me … which I’ll summarize here only because 
some of you will get a chuckle out of it.

Payroll starts running their check run at 11:30 AM.  After about 10 minutes, it 
hangs-up. They have to abort the run, void the checks, and start over. It 
usually keeps happening. They run it specifically over lunch because most of 
the Financial Dept is at lunch, so nobody’s online.

I poked around and noticed there were a couple of people running reports, 
including the gal in the cube next to me. (They ran these reports that went to 
Epsons dot-matrix printers and they’d run for about 45 minutes.)

BTW, this is some kind of accounting system running on a bunch of old DOS 
machines (circa 1995) hooked into a Banyan Vines LAN, sharing access to files 
on a file server.

I looked at how the gal in the next cube ran her reports. It was a batch file 
that looked like this:

runrptapp.exe xyz abc >lpt

(I forget what devices were on DOS, but … notice the right-arrow.)

Digging around, I discovered that this app, which I’m calling runrptapp.exe, 
opens the database file on the server, which happens to be the same database 
file the Payroll app used. It was a very popular database back then (i forget 
the name, but it’s not dBase). I happened to know that that particular database 
used FILE-LEVEL locking. 

Notice the right-arrow … 

Question: who starts off their reports first: the gal in the next cube, or 
Payroll?

Answer: gal in the next cube! At 11 AM, because she needs it for a 2PM meeting, 
and it usually crashes over lunch and needs to be restarted.

Did you notice the right-arrow ...

What happens is she runs her report and the printer is fed data in real-time as 
the report extracts records from the DB. After a while, it has extracted as 
much as it can before the print buffer gets filled up, and it starts to crawl 
along.

Some time after she starts runnign her report (15-20 mins), the Payroll Dept 
starts their check run. 

It access the same DB.

Notice that right-arrow … and think, “file-level locking” … and “Payroll wants 
to run against this DB at the same time …

hmmm …. changed the BAT file to this:

runrptapp.exe xyz abc >temprpt.txt
copy temprpt.txt lpt1

The report took about 15 seconds to run, then it started printing it from the 
local copy on the disk.

VIOLA! PROBLEM SOLVED.   sort of …

Monday morning I had another manager wating at my door when I arrived. “Weren’t 
you told not to fix anything for these people? JUST HOLD THEIR HANDS, right?”

"Well, the Finance Mgr said if I didn’t do SOMETHING he’d fire me.”



The vendor had sent out their top support people, and even sent their 
DEVELOPERS, and NOBODY had been able to fix this problem. They even had some 
support guys from Banyan come out, and they couldn’t fix it either. 

Turns out, the Finance Dept didn’t like this piece of software and it came with 
a 90-day money-back guarantee. They wanted their money back.

Nobody else who’d tried to fix this problem, including the SMEs, couldn’t solve 
it.

But silly me … it took me about 15 minutes to fix it. With no subject-matter 
expertise at all.

And a week later, my contract was terminated. :o


So it doesn’t surprize me when people report they have trouble finding folks 
with good problem solving skills. 

Unfortunately, the kinds of questions I get in interviews don’t go into this at 
all. They’re mostly general stuff, trick questions, and things intended to get 
a feeling of how good you are with existing tools.

This is the problem. If people have good problem-solving skills, they CAN 
figure this shit out, no matter what.

But if you don’t know the tools, and regardless of you problem-solving skills, 
BZZZTTT! You’re DISQUALIFIED!

I’ve also worked at several places where we encountered LAN problems, and after 
a couple of days with their “A+ Certified,” “Novell Certified," and “Microsoft 
Certified” experts being unable to solve server/workstation issues that were 
holding me up, I asked if I could “take 

Re: Samba Connecting, cannot transfer files

2015-07-31 Thread Keith Smith


I modified my valid user to correspond to yours.


[work]
path = /work
browsable = yes
writable = yes
read only = no
valid users = @keith +keith
write list = keith


The workstation runs Mint 17 KDE

The Samba share is on a VirtualBox guest running CentOS 6.6.

Permissions on the share are set to world writeable (777).  The 
directories created by using Dolphin are 755 but no files can be added 
via Dolphin.


Owner is keith:keith

Both the host and the Samba have a user keith and  same password.

Please note I have another Samba box on my network with a different IP 
and mount point.  Same user and password.  This other Samba share is 
working fine and is connected to by the fstab.





On 2015-07-31 12:48, James Dugger wrote:

I am assuming that you've checked the ownership of the files and
folders to ensure that user 'keith' and group 'keith' existing and are
assigned correctly.  If you are using the group keith, have you added
the following line to your share in samba:

valid users = @keith +keith
The @ symbol indicates a group and a + indicates a samba username to
add to the share.  If the username 'keith' has been added to the group
named 'keith' in /etc/group and the group ownership of all files and
folders is listed as keith, than you should only need:
valid users = @keith
and it should be working.

If the ownership of the group is not correct.  from the parent
directory of the share folder you may want to do:
chown -R keith:keith /

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Keith Smith
 wrote:


Thanks James!

It mounts OK and I can create directories, just cannot upload
files.

On 2015-07-31 11:24, James Dugger wrote:

​Have you checked for any conflicts in the options portion in the
mount statement of the drive where the share is located in the
fstab
file of the samba server ... with the mount statement on the samba
client box? Your cifs mount statement calls for the username
option.
​, does the mount statement for the drive where the file being
shared on the server allow this user name option?​
​
​

I'm mounting the actual drive on my samba server as ext4 with
defaults. I am mounting the share on two mac boxes using cifs.
​ My shares are used for backup not daily rw activity.​

Are you mounting using cifs ?

My share is in CentOS 6.6 and my desktop is Mint 17 kde.

I have a samba server on a LAMP dev box and it mounds just fine
using
cifs with the mount command being in the fstab.

I wonder if there is a conflix between the two boxes or if there
is
something I am missing.

I spun up a minimul CentOS VM and can ping etc. Turned off
SElinux
and IPTables. Installed and configured Samba and the same thing is
happening.

I can connect and brows just not upload files. I can even create
directories.

I set the share to 0777.

Could this be a VM thing?

On 2015-07-26 19:01, James Dugger wrote:

I set up my own share declaration at the end of the smb.conf file.
For example I have a simple one called [archive] that allows
backups
to be placed on a server running Ubuntu 15.04 server edition.

I create the samba users and passwords for each user (these match
their unix user accounts)
I set the appropriate unix permissions for the group that I want
typically 775.
I create a group called "archive" in /etc/group and then add all
of
the users who are to have access to it into the archive group.
the valid users = @group_name is the key that allows samba to
control
the access to samba share.

The key is add the the users to the group in /etc/group and to make
sure that they have a mapped samba username and password.

[archive]
comment = backup drive
path = /srv/archive
browseable = yes
guest ok = no
valid users = @archive

There are other options but I usually find that the I forget to
update
the /etc/group file.

Hope that helps

On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Keith Smith
 wrote:

Thanks for the link.

My smbpasswd is in /usr/bin/smbpasswd

Just to make sure I : touch /etc/samba/smbpasswd

then I :
smbpasswd -x username
smbpasswd -a username

still same issue.

Remove /etc/samba/smbpasswd

I've created several directories off of /work/ on the samba
server
using the Samba server's command line. Using Dolphin on my
desktop
I can add directories to /work/ - they have correct permissions
and
ownership. However I get a permissions dialog when adding files
to
/work/

If I try to add a file to one of those directories I created
using
Dolphin on my desktop there is no error and no file shows up.

Thank you for your help!!
Keith

On 2015-07-26 10:28, Stephen Partington wrote:


http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/samba-smbpasswd-file-missing-750367/
[4]


[3]


[1]
[3]

On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Keith Smith
 wrote:

Thanks!! I added the Samba user as one of the first steps. My
smb.config shows "passdb backend = tdbsam". I cannot find the
tdbsam file. What am I missing?

On 2015-07-26 09:56, Todd Millecam wrote:

If I remember right, samba doesn't fo

Re: I don't know if this has come up yet but....

2015-07-31 Thread Eric Oyen
well, considering I am most familiar with mac these days, that would be where a 
lot of my experience would work for me. Still, Linux does have its uses here. I 
can run it on hardware that OS X won't even look at and windows would just BARG 
over.

-eric

On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:21 PM, Sesso wrote:

> Where I work, we have a few thousand servers and about 95% are linux.  I have 
> converted almost all of my office guys to linux or Mac minis for desktops. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2015, at 4:13 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>> 
>> well,
>> take a look at craigslist parent company: Ebay. Fully 35% of their operation 
>> is Linux Centric. Mostly, its the 90,000 or so email and backend servers 
>> running in virtual machines (like VMware). THey also run windows on some 
>> desktops as well as an active directory infrastructure. However, one of 
>> their biggest usage bases inside the company  are all of the Macbook pros 
>> they use. THere is a tiny sliver of OpenBSD border routers and load 
>> balancers as well. BTW, this information comes from a friend that works as a 
>> Sr. Systems Admin in the Infrastructure development Dept.
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>>> On Jul 30, 2015, at 10:59 PM, Amy Nielsen wrote:
>>> 
>>> Once again I like learning new things regarding open source, I had no idea 
>>> Craigslist did any of this. I am realizing how big and widespread Linux and 
>>> Open Source has become, it is exciting! 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>>> I was perusing craigslist and noticed a link that said 'open source'. Being 
>>> the ever-curious lad of 44 I clicked the link and wish to share what I 
>>> found:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> craigslist is a big believer in open source software, and relies heavily on 
>>> Linux, MySQL, Perl, Apache, Sphinx, Redis, Haraka, and many others.
>>> 
>>> craigslist (CL) has released the following open source projects:
>>> 
>>> CL blob service - a simple HTTP-based, multi-master storage service 
>>> designed for scale-out and multi-datacenter deployments:
>>> 
>>>   • multi-master architecture with no single point of failure
>>>   • scales well for both read and write intensive workloads  
>>>   • tracks TTLs for automatic expiration and purging of blobs   
>>>   • designed for both local and multiple data center replication
>>>   • pluggable index and storage interface (uses SQLite for index and 
>>> filesystem for storage by default)
>>> CL image service - large scale image resizing and processing HTTP service:
>>> 
>>>   • flexible API to choose any quality, size, and center-cropping
>>>   • automatically handles orientation operations from EXIF data  
>>>   • stores resized images in the blob service (could use other stores)
>>> memcache cluster proxy (MCP) - a high-performance modular clustering HTTP 
>>> reverse proxy:
>>> 
>>>   • high-performance event-driven daemon
>>>   • flexible configuration, easily extensible framework
>>>   • uses standard memcached memory store for caching   
>>>   • supports PCRE and rule-based traffic routing by URL, headers, and more
>>>   • tracks health of origin servers, routes around failures
>>>   • provides configurable URL redirects, rewrites, and real-time header 
>>> transformations
>>> In addition, craigslist contributes code to the following open source 
>>> projects:
>>> 
>>> Haraka:
>>> 
>>>   • added the smtp_client code that helps support pooled connections for 
>>> proxy queues
>>>   • rewrote all of the smtp_proxy and smtp_forward code
>>>   • major contributions to the test suite
>>>   • plugin that does strict DNS checking, DNS access control lists
>>>   • contributions to bannering support
>>>   • logging infrastructure changes for more robust logging
>>>   • plugins for aliases, access lists, etc.
>>> Redis:
>>> 
>>>   • perl-AnyEvent-Redis-Federated: an event-based redis client that 
>>> implements client-side sharding in Perl
>>>   • redis_util: s collection of utilities for node-redis
>>>   • provided support for included config files
>>> Sphinx:
>>> 
>>>   • provided the original persistent connections implementation
>>>   • craigslist sponsors useful sphinx feature developments, such as the 
>>> TRUNCATE INDEX command for real-time sphinx
>>> The craigslist Charitable Fund supports open source nonprofit organizations 
>>> including:
>>> 
>>>   • Apache Software Foundation
>>>   • Free Software Foundation
>>>   • Gnome Foundation
>>>   • Mozilla Foundation
>>>   • Open Source Initiative
>>>   • OpenStreetMap.us
>>>   • Perl Foundation
>>>   • PostgreSQL
>>>   • Python Software Foundation
>>>   • Software in the Public Interest
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Isn't that cool!
>>> -- 
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>> 
>>> ---
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>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
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>>> 
>>> 

Re: I don't know if this has come up yet but....

2015-07-31 Thread Sesso
Where I work, we have a few thousand servers and about 95% are linux.  I have 
converted almost all of my office guys to linux or Mac minis for desktops. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 31, 2015, at 4:13 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
> well,
> take a look at craigslist parent company: Ebay. Fully 35% of their operation 
> is Linux Centric. Mostly, its the 90,000 or so email and backend servers 
> running in virtual machines (like VMware). THey also run windows on some 
> desktops as well as an active directory infrastructure. However, one of their 
> biggest usage bases inside the company  are all of the Macbook pros they use. 
> THere is a tiny sliver of OpenBSD border routers and load balancers as well. 
> BTW, this information comes from a friend that works as a Sr. Systems Admin 
> in the Infrastructure development Dept.
> 
> -eric
> 
>> On Jul 30, 2015, at 10:59 PM, Amy Nielsen wrote:
>> 
>> Once again I like learning new things regarding open source, I had no idea 
>> Craigslist did any of this. I am realizing how big and widespread Linux and 
>> Open Source has become, it is exciting! 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>> I was perusing craigslist and noticed a link that said 'open source'. Being 
>> the ever-curious lad of 44 I clicked the link and wish to share what I found:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> craigslist is a big believer in open source software, and relies heavily on 
>> Linux, MySQL, Perl, Apache, Sphinx, Redis, Haraka, and many others.
>> 
>> craigslist (CL) has released the following open source projects:
>> 
>> CL blob service - a simple HTTP-based, multi-master storage service designed 
>> for scale-out and multi-datacenter deployments:
>> 
>>• multi-master architecture with no single point of failure
>>• scales well for both read and write intensive workloads  
>>• tracks TTLs for automatic expiration and purging of blobs   
>>• designed for both local and multiple data center replication
>>• pluggable index and storage interface (uses SQLite for index and 
>> filesystem for storage by default)
>> CL image service - large scale image resizing and processing HTTP service:
>> 
>>• flexible API to choose any quality, size, and center-cropping
>>• automatically handles orientation operations from EXIF data  
>>• stores resized images in the blob service (could use other stores)
>> memcache cluster proxy (MCP) - a high-performance modular clustering HTTP 
>> reverse proxy:
>> 
>>• high-performance event-driven daemon
>>• flexible configuration, easily extensible framework
>>• uses standard memcached memory store for caching   
>>• supports PCRE and rule-based traffic routing by URL, headers, and more
>>• tracks health of origin servers, routes around failures
>>• provides configurable URL redirects, rewrites, and real-time header 
>> transformations
>> In addition, craigslist contributes code to the following open source 
>> projects:
>> 
>> Haraka:
>> 
>>• added the smtp_client code that helps support pooled connections for 
>> proxy queues
>>• rewrote all of the smtp_proxy and smtp_forward code
>>• major contributions to the test suite
>>• plugin that does strict DNS checking, DNS access control lists
>>• contributions to bannering support
>>• logging infrastructure changes for more robust logging
>>• plugins for aliases, access lists, etc.
>> Redis:
>> 
>>• perl-AnyEvent-Redis-Federated: an event-based redis client that 
>> implements client-side sharding in Perl
>>• redis_util: s collection of utilities for node-redis
>>• provided support for included config files
>> Sphinx:
>> 
>>• provided the original persistent connections implementation
>>• craigslist sponsors useful sphinx feature developments, such as the 
>> TRUNCATE INDEX command for real-time sphinx
>> The craigslist Charitable Fund supports open source nonprofit organizations 
>> including:
>> 
>>• Apache Software Foundation
>>• Free Software Foundation
>>• Gnome Foundation
>>• Mozilla Foundation
>>• Open Source Initiative
>>• OpenStreetMap.us
>>• Perl Foundation
>>• PostgreSQL
>>• Python Software Foundation
>>• Software in the Public Interest
>> 
>> 
>> Isn't that cool!
>> -- 
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>> 
>> ---
>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org
>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
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>> 
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Re: do we have a community outreach program?

2015-07-31 Thread Michael Havens
people hear complain about the heat and I just laugh and say that
people in Florida have no idea. One of the women I know down here has
a brother that lives in Phoenix and I'm told that he says the same
thing,. It is paradise here! You sweat because of the humidity but it
is not hot here. The weather guys talk about a heat index, or what it
feels like, and I say that is Bologna. 99 degrees with the heat index
making it feel 110 does not feel like 110. it feels like 99 but your
sweat doesn't feel like an evaporative cooler.

On 7/31/15, Amy Nielsen  wrote:
> Well enjoy Florida! Okay, I will do my best. I had my ankle fused in May
> and next week will start physical therapy, and hopefully I will be good to
> drive in a couple weeks. As soon as I am able to drive, I will go to the
> next installfest. Is there anyone else you have been talking about this
> with that I should talk to? Well good luck, Florida has to be better than
> Arizona summertime!
> Amy
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 3:44 AM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>
>> Amy, you'll have to take the gauntlet as I am now in Florida.
>>
>> On 7/31/15, Amy Nielsen  wrote:
>> > Maybe bring up at an installfest meeting? For the record, I would
>> volunteer
>> >
>> > On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Michael Havens 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> If I was still in the Phoenixarea I would be most happy too.
>> >> Unfortunately
>> >> I am moving out of state  even in July.
>> >>
>> >> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Keith Smith
>> >> > >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On 2015-05-21 22:32, Eric Oyen wrote:
>> >>>
>>  hmmm. thats not a bad idea. It might also be helpful to the disabled
>>  population (of which I am one, being totally blind). Since I use
>>  ubuntu with the orca screen reader here on an old toshiba laptop
>>  that
>>  was graciously donated to me by another member of plug over 7 years
>>  ago, it has been used a lot. Mostly, I use it to control the various
>>  pieces of ham radio gear I have (using the HamLib package) It also
>>  makes radio programming a bit easier when I have to use chirp (Linux
>>  is about the only environment where that program is even minimally
>>  accessible using a screen reader). btw, there is also an
>>  accessibility
>>  list over at Ubuntu where the various screen readers and how to use
>>  them are discussed. There is also the Vinux project which was
>>  specifically designed for blind computer users.
>> 
>> 
>> >>> Very interesting.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Combine this with a community outreach program (say for big
>>  brothers/big sisters or the YMCA or the United way) and you might
>>  just
>>  start a whole new generation of Linux users (and programmers) who
>>  won't have to put up with the failing business model that is
>>  Microsoft.
>> 
>> 
>> >>>
>> >>> Several members of the Tucson Free Unix Group converted a school to
>> >>> Linux
>> >>> about 15 years ago using used computers donated by one or more local
>> >>> businesses.
>> >>>
>> >>> I worked in a business 17 years ago that had 650 employees.  Think
>> about
>> >>> that.  Over a 3 or 4 year period they would replace every one of
>> >>> those
>> >>> computers.  Those used computers still have many years of life in
>> >>> them
>> >>> and
>> >>> by replacing M$ with Linux the old computer has a new life.  My
>> >>> experience
>> >>> is Linux needs less resources and old iron will perform decently
>> >>> especially
>> >>> if it is only 3 - 4 - 5 years old.  I have an 8 year old box that
>> >>> would
>> >>> do
>> >>> fine running Mint. And I suspect it could do so for 5 or more years.
>> >>>
>> >>> I think the real issue is finding the volunteers to do all this work.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -eric (the other eric :) ).
>> 
>>  On May 21, 2015, at 4:31 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>> 
>>  You know, thrift stores (other than goodwill) has used computers
>> coming
>> > out of their ears. I think we need to find a thrift store that
>> > wants
>> > to
>> > unload all of this used hardware for like 25 dollars apiece and put
>> > Linux
>> > on it and get these fully functional and modern computers out to
>> > the
>> > people
>> > who need them. If you buy a modern windows computer it isn't even
>> > fully
>> > functional unless you pay for a subscription to something. I'm
>> partial
>> > to
>> > Linux Mint but that is up for debate.
>> > :-)~MIKE~(-:
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Re: Samba Connecting, cannot transfer files

2015-07-31 Thread James Dugger
I am assuming that you've checked the ownership of the files and folders to
ensure that user 'keith' and group 'keith' existing and are assigned
correctly.  If you are using the group keith, have you added the following
line to your share in samba:

valid users = @keith +keith
The @ symbol indicates a group and a + indicates a samba username to add to
the share.  If the username 'keith' has been added to the group named
'keith' in /etc/group and the group ownership of all files and folders is
listed as keith, than you should only need:
valid users = @keith
and it should be working.

If the ownership of the group is not correct.  from the parent directory of
the share folder you may want to do:
chown -R keith:keith /

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Keith Smith 
wrote:

>
> Thanks James!
>
> It mounts OK and I can create directories, just cannot upload files.
>
>
>
>
> On 2015-07-31 11:24, James Dugger wrote:
>
>> ​Have you checked for any conflicts in the options portion in the
>> mount statement of the drive where the share is located in the fstab
>> file of the samba server ... with the mount statement on the samba
>> client box? Your cifs mount statement calls for the username option.
>> ​, does the mount statement for the drive where the file being
>> shared on the server allow this user name option?​
>> ​
>> ​
>>
>> I'm mounting the actual drive on my samba server as ext4 with
>> defaults.  I am mounting the share on two mac boxes using cifs.
>> ​  My shares are used for backup not daily rw activity.​
>>
>>  Are you mounting using cifs ?
>>
>>  My share is in CentOS 6.6 and my desktop is Mint 17 kde.
>>
>>  I have a samba server on a LAMP dev box and it mounds just fine using
>> cifs with the mount command being in the fstab.
>>
>>  I wonder if there is a conflix between the two boxes or if there is
>> something I am missing.
>>
>>  I spun up a minimul CentOS VM and can ping etc.  Turned off SElinux
>> and IPTables.  Installed and configured Samba and the same thing is
>> happening.
>>
>>  I can connect and brows just not upload files.  I can even create
>> directories.
>>
>>  I set the share to 0777.
>>
>>  Could this be a VM thing?
>>
>>  On 2015-07-26 19:01, James Dugger wrote:
>>
>> I set up my own share declaration at the end of the smb.conf file.
>>> For example I have a simple one called [archive] that allows
>>> backups
>>> to be placed on a server running Ubuntu 15.04 server edition.
>>>
>>> I create the samba users and passwords for each user (these match
>>> their unix user accounts)
>>> I set the appropriate unix permissions for the group that I want
>>> typically 775.
>>> I create a group called "archive" in /etc/group and then add all
>>> of
>>> the users who are to have access to it into the archive group.
>>> the valid users = @group_name is the key that allows samba to
>>> control
>>> the access to samba share.
>>>
>>> The key is add the the users to the group in /etc/group and to make
>>> sure that they have a mapped samba username and password.
>>>
>>> [archive]
>>> comment = backup drive
>>> path = /srv/archive
>>> browseable = yes
>>> guest ok = no
>>> valid users = @archive
>>>
>>> There are other options but I usually find that the I forget to
>>> update
>>> the /etc/group file.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Keith Smith
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the link.

 My smbpasswd is in /usr/bin/smbpasswd

 Just to make sure I : touch /etc/samba/smbpasswd

 then I :
 smbpasswd -x username
 smbpasswd -a username

 still same issue.

 Remove /etc/samba/smbpasswd

 I've created several directories off of /work/ on the samba
 server
 using the Samba server's command line. Using Dolphin on my
 desktop
 I can add directories to /work/ - they have correct permissions
 and
 ownership. However I get a permissions dialog when adding files
 to
 /work/

 If I try to add a file to one of those directories I created
 using
 Dolphin on my desktop there is no error and no file shows up.

 Thank you for your help!!
 Keith

 On 2015-07-26 10:28, Stephen Partington wrote:

>>>
>>>
>> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/samba-smbpasswd-file-missing-750367/
>>
>>> [3]
>>>
>>> [1]
 [3]

 On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Keith Smith
  wrote:

 Thanks!! I added the Samba user as one of the first steps. My
 smb.config shows "passdb backend = tdbsam". I cannot find the
 tdbsam file. What am I missing?

 On 2015-07-26 09:56, Todd Millecam wrote:

 If I remember right, samba doesn't follow regular *nix
 permissions.
 Try running the command:
 smbadduser

 to get your user name and password in. Use those credentials when
 you
 login to transfer files and see if it works.

 On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Keith Smith
  wrote:

 Hi,
>>>

Re: Samba Connecting, cannot transfer files

2015-07-31 Thread Keith Smith


Thanks James!

It mounts OK and I can create directories, just cannot upload files.



On 2015-07-31 11:24, James Dugger wrote:

​Have you checked for any conflicts in the options portion in the
mount statement of the drive where the share is located in the fstab
file of the samba server ... with the mount statement on the samba
client box? Your cifs mount statement calls for the username option.
​, does the mount statement for the drive where the file being
shared on the server allow this user name option?​
​
​

I'm mounting the actual drive on my samba server as ext4 with
defaults.  I am mounting the share on two mac boxes using cifs.
​  My shares are used for backup not daily rw activity.​

 Are you mounting using cifs ?

 My share is in CentOS 6.6 and my desktop is Mint 17 kde.

 I have a samba server on a LAMP dev box and it mounds just fine using
cifs with the mount command being in the fstab.

 I wonder if there is a conflix between the two boxes or if there is
something I am missing.

 I spun up a minimul CentOS VM and can ping etc.  Turned off SElinux
and IPTables.  Installed and configured Samba and the same thing is
happening.

 I can connect and brows just not upload files.  I can even create
directories.

 I set the share to 0777.

 Could this be a VM thing?

 On 2015-07-26 19:01, James Dugger wrote:


I set up my own share declaration at the end of the smb.conf file.
For example I have a simple one called [archive] that allows
backups
to be placed on a server running Ubuntu 15.04 server edition.

I create the samba users and passwords for each user (these match
their unix user accounts)
I set the appropriate unix permissions for the group that I want
typically 775.
I create a group called "archive" in /etc/group and then add all
of
the users who are to have access to it into the archive group.
the valid users = @group_name is the key that allows samba to
control
the access to samba share.

The key is add the the users to the group in /etc/group and to make
sure that they have a mapped samba username and password.

[archive]
comment = backup drive
path = /srv/archive
browseable = yes
guest ok = no
valid users = @archive

There are other options but I usually find that the I forget to
update
the /etc/group file.

Hope that helps

On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Keith Smith
 wrote:


Thanks for the link.

My smbpasswd is in /usr/bin/smbpasswd

Just to make sure I : touch /etc/samba/smbpasswd

then I :
smbpasswd -x username
smbpasswd -a username

still same issue.

Remove /etc/samba/smbpasswd

I've created several directories off of /work/ on the samba
server
using the Samba server's command line. Using Dolphin on my
desktop
I can add directories to /work/ - they have correct permissions
and
ownership. However I get a permissions dialog when adding files
to
/work/

If I try to add a file to one of those directories I created
using
Dolphin on my desktop there is no error and no file shows up.

Thank you for your help!!
Keith

On 2015-07-26 10:28, Stephen Partington wrote:



http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/samba-smbpasswd-file-missing-750367/

[3]


[1]
[3]

On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Keith Smith
 wrote:

Thanks!! I added the Samba user as one of the first steps. My
smb.config shows "passdb backend = tdbsam". I cannot find the
tdbsam file. What am I missing?

On 2015-07-26 09:56, Todd Millecam wrote:

If I remember right, samba doesn't follow regular *nix
permissions.
Try running the command:
smbadduser

to get your user name and password in. Use those credentials when
you
login to transfer files and see if it works.

On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Keith Smith
 wrote:

Hi,

I am running Mint 17 KDE. I've uploaded Virtualbox and created a
vm using CentOS 6.6. On the CentOS 6.6 VM I installed Samba.

I created a user on the VM and created the same user as a Samba
user.
I created a directory off root : /work
smb and nmb are both running.
in the /etc/samba/smb.conf I:
1) set the workgroup - I do not think this is necessary since I
am
connection from Linux.
2) commented out all the cups references
3) added the following lines:

- path = /work
- writable = yes
- browseable = yes
- read only = no

SELinux is disables
IPTables is disabled

I have the exact same config on a laptop running CentOS 6.6 and
it
works fine. Only difference is the laptop mounts and connects to
Samba from the fstab.

To connect to the Samba share on the VM I issue the following
command from my desktop's command line:

sudo mount -t cifs -o user='username' //192.168.20.51/work/ [1]
[2] [1]
[1]

/mnt/centos6 (command line on my desktop)

It mounts and I can view the /work directory in Dolphin on the
the
parent (mint 17 KDE desktop).

I cannot upload files though.

To test I : chmod -R 777 /work which did not help.

I checked the Samba logs and they contain almost nothing - no
errors are being logged.

I've scoured the internet and am finding no solution.

Tied:

create mask = 0755
create mode = 0

Re: Samba Connecting, cannot transfer files

2015-07-31 Thread James Dugger
​Have you checked for
 any conflicts in the options portion in the mount statement of the drive
where the share is located in the fstab file of the samba server ... with
the mount statement on the samba client box? Your cifs mount statement
calls for the username option.
​, does the mount statement for the drive where the file being shared on
the server allow this user name option?​
​
​

I'm mounting the actual drive on my samba server as ext4 with defaults.  I
am mounting the share on two mac boxes using cifs.
​  My shares are used for backup not daily rw activity.​


Are you mounting using cifs ?

My share is in CentOS 6.6 and my desktop is Mint 17 kde.

I have a samba server on a LAMP dev box and it mounds just fine using cifs
with the mount command being in the fstab.

I wonder if there is a conflix between the two boxes or if there is
something I am missing.

I spun up a minimul CentOS VM and can ping etc.  Turned off SElinux and
IPTables.  Installed and configured Samba and the same thing is happening.

I can connect and brows just not upload files.  I can even create
directories.

I set the share to 0777.

Could this be a VM thing?




On 2015-07-26 19:01, James Dugger wrote:

> I set up my own share declaration at the end of the smb.conf file.
> For example I have a simple one called [archive] that allows backups
> to be placed on a server running Ubuntu 15.04 server edition.
>
> I create the samba users and passwords for each user (these match
> their unix user accounts)
> I set the appropriate unix permissions for the group that I want
> typically 775.
> I create a group called "archive" in  /etc/group and then add all of
> the users who are to have access to it into the archive group.
> the valid users = @group_name is the key that allows samba to control
> the access to samba share.
>
> The key is add the the users to the group in /etc/group and to make
> sure that they have a mapped samba username and password.
>
> [archive]
>  comment = backup drive
>  path = /srv/archive
>  browseable = yes
>  guest ok = no
>  valid users = @archive
>
> There are other options but I usually find that the I forget to update
> the /etc/group file.
>
> Hope that helps
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Keith Smith
>  wrote:
>
> Thanks for the link.
>>
>> My smbpasswd is in /usr/bin/smbpasswd
>>
>> Just to make sure I : touch /etc/samba/smbpasswd
>>
>> then I :
>> smbpasswd -x username
>> smbpasswd -a username
>>
>> still same issue.
>>
>> Remove /etc/samba/smbpasswd
>>
>> I've created several directories off of /work/ on the samba server
>> using the Samba server's command line. Using Dolphin on my desktop
>> I can add directories to /work/ - they have correct permissions and
>> ownership. However I get a permissions dialog when adding files to
>> /work/
>>
>> If I try to add a file to one of those directories I created using
>> Dolphin on my desktop there is no error and no file shows up.
>>
>> Thank you for your help!!
>> Keith
>>
>> On 2015-07-26 10:28, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>
>>
> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/samba-smbpasswd-file-missing-750367/
>
>> [1]
>> [3]
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Keith Smith
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks!! I added the Samba user as one of the first steps. My
>> smb.config shows "passdb backend = tdbsam". I cannot find the
>> tdbsam file. What am I missing?
>>
>> On 2015-07-26 09:56, Todd Millecam wrote:
>>
>> If I remember right, samba doesn't follow regular *nix permissions.
>> Try running the command:
>> smbadduser
>>
>> to get your user name and password in. Use those credentials when
>> you
>> login to transfer files and see if it works.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Keith Smith
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am running Mint 17 KDE. I've uploaded Virtualbox and created a
>> vm using CentOS 6.6. On the CentOS 6.6 VM I installed Samba.
>>
>> I created a user on the VM and created the same user as a Samba
>> user.
>> I created a directory off root : /work
>> smb and nmb are both running.
>> in the /etc/samba/smb.conf I:
>> 1) set the workgroup - I do not think this is necessary since I am
>> connection from Linux.
>> 2) commented out all the cups references
>> 3) added the following lines:
>>
>> - path = /work
>> - writable = yes
>> - browseable = yes
>> - read only = no
>>
>> SELinux is disables
>> IPTables is disabled
>>
>> I have the exact same config on a laptop running CentOS 6.6 and it
>> works fine. Only difference is the laptop mounts and connects to
>> Samba from the fstab.
>>
>> To connect to the Samba share on the VM I issue the following
>> command from my desktop's command line:
>>
>> sudo mount -t cifs -o user='username' //192.168.20.51/work/ [2] [1]
>> [1]
>>
>> /mnt/centos6 (command line on my desktop)
>>
>> It mounts and I can view the /work directory in Dolphin on the the
>> parent (mint 17 KDE desktop).
>>
>> I cannot upload files though.
>>
>> To test I : chmod -R 777 /work which did not help.

Re: Bare-bones Parted cheat-sheet

2015-07-31 Thread Amy Nielsen
thanks, i am about to use parted on one of my computers and it has been
awhile so this is great

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Steve Litt 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I just put up this bare-bones cheat-sheet for the parted program:
>
> http://troubleshooters.com/linux/parted_cheat.htm
>
> It's designed as a syntax reminder for the person using parted for
> typical, simple partitioning. Please feel free to refer it to
> occasional users of parted.
>
>
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Re: ot - boric acid and cockroaches

2015-07-31 Thread Amy Nielsen
another good product, especially if you have pets, is diatemateous earth.
it resembles flour, and pets or people, even babies can eat it without
harm. It is deadly for anything with an exoskeleton though, which is most
bugs. it acts like tiny razors to them and they die fast. I discovered it a
few years ago to combat fleas and I had three dogs so it had to be safe for
them. I not only did my inside of house, but the front yard too. almost
three years now and we have not had even one flea on any of our dogs, and
don't need to use drops or collars. Make sure to get the type that does NOT
go in pools and you'll be amazed. The kind used in pools isn't safe for
pets.

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> You humanitarian you. I put Amdro Ant Bait down and there gone the next
> day.
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Stephen Partington 
> wrote:
>
>> You can encourage ants to pack up and move by giving them Corn Meal.
>> Basically they take it back to the nest, and then it moulders instead of
>> feeding the fungus that is their real food. as they have no food left they
>> pack it up and go away.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>>
>>> Cool! I just read this one- If you ever have rats try this:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/20/whats-the-best-way-to-kill-cockroaches
>>>
>>> Incidentally, should you also be happen to be troubled by rats, I have
>>> here an ingenious formula for inducing rat death: Mix equal parts cement
>>> and flour Place a pan of this powder out next to a pan of water. The rats
>>> eat the cement, then they drink the water, and by the next morning their
>>> bowels have turned to concrete. Sadistic, eh? I knew you'd love it.
>>>  (I read elsewhere you can use oat meal and at another site plaster of
>>> paris).
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Matt Graham 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 On 2015-06-04 07:21, Michael Havens wrote:
>
>> spread boric acid  on the kitchen floor and the cockroaches would
>> run over it and die. He went on to explain that they breathe through
>> follicles on their abdomen and that the acid suffocates them.
>>
>
 Sort of correct.  Insects breathe through spiracles (not follicles).
 http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/20/whats-the-best-way-to-kill-cockroaches
 says that borax abrades the waxy coating on roach exoskeleton, so the
 roaches dehydrate.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boric_Acid#Insecticidal says borax
 interferes with insect metabolism as well.

 On 2015-06-04 08:39, Keith Smith wrote:

> Are these Linux Roaches?
>

 "ERROR:  roachd and boraxd cannot be installed at the same time."

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Re: Redhat, KVM, and Redhat KVM

2015-07-31 Thread Amy Nielsen
www.linux-*kvm*.org
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/
*KVM*systems.cs.columbia.edu/projects/*kvm*-arm/

I found a lot of good information on these sites

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> if anyone can answer this please reply-all.
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Berglund,Matthew 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Is there a good, concise, best practices out there for KVM, or am I
>> doomed to read everything that redhat has written on the subject?
>>
>>
>> I'm less concerned with instruction (I am aware of the googles) than I am
>> the pitfalls of installing and operating the host from both a general and
>> security perspective.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Matt
>>
>
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Re: ot

2015-07-31 Thread Amy Nielsen
CLR works way better than anything else, just read directions because
depending on what you need to use it on you may need to do a different
product. I use it on all sorts of things, if the surface is plastic it may
melt. and you can use to clean out dishwasher, coffee makers, the label
will tell you. I like it because I usually don't even have to scrub just
apply the CLR and its done.


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> Has anyone here compared Lime-away and CLR? Which is better?
>
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Re: do we have a community outreach program?

2015-07-31 Thread Amy Nielsen
Well enjoy Florida! Okay, I will do my best. I had my ankle fused in May
and next week will start physical therapy, and hopefully I will be good to
drive in a couple weeks. As soon as I am able to drive, I will go to the
next installfest. Is there anyone else you have been talking about this
with that I should talk to? Well good luck, Florida has to be better than
Arizona summertime!
Amy

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 3:44 AM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> Amy, you'll have to take the gauntlet as I am now in Florida.
>
> On 7/31/15, Amy Nielsen  wrote:
> > Maybe bring up at an installfest meeting? For the record, I would
> volunteer
> >
> > On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Michael Havens 
> wrote:
> >
> >> If I was still in the Phoenixarea I would be most happy too.
> >> Unfortunately
> >> I am moving out of state  even in July.
> >>
> >> :-)~MIKE~(-:
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Keith Smith  >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 2015-05-21 22:32, Eric Oyen wrote:
> >>>
>  hmmm. thats not a bad idea. It might also be helpful to the disabled
>  population (of which I am one, being totally blind). Since I use
>  ubuntu with the orca screen reader here on an old toshiba laptop that
>  was graciously donated to me by another member of plug over 7 years
>  ago, it has been used a lot. Mostly, I use it to control the various
>  pieces of ham radio gear I have (using the HamLib package) It also
>  makes radio programming a bit easier when I have to use chirp (Linux
>  is about the only environment where that program is even minimally
>  accessible using a screen reader). btw, there is also an accessibility
>  list over at Ubuntu where the various screen readers and how to use
>  them are discussed. There is also the Vinux project which was
>  specifically designed for blind computer users.
> 
> 
> >>> Very interesting.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Combine this with a community outreach program (say for big
>  brothers/big sisters or the YMCA or the United way) and you might just
>  start a whole new generation of Linux users (and programmers) who
>  won't have to put up with the failing business model that is
>  Microsoft.
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>> Several members of the Tucson Free Unix Group converted a school to
> >>> Linux
> >>> about 15 years ago using used computers donated by one or more local
> >>> businesses.
> >>>
> >>> I worked in a business 17 years ago that had 650 employees.  Think
> about
> >>> that.  Over a 3 or 4 year period they would replace every one of those
> >>> computers.  Those used computers still have many years of life in them
> >>> and
> >>> by replacing M$ with Linux the old computer has a new life.  My
> >>> experience
> >>> is Linux needs less resources and old iron will perform decently
> >>> especially
> >>> if it is only 3 - 4 - 5 years old.  I have an 8 year old box that would
> >>> do
> >>> fine running Mint. And I suspect it could do so for 5 or more years.
> >>>
> >>> I think the real issue is finding the volunteers to do all this work.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -eric (the other eric :) ).
> 
>  On May 21, 2015, at 4:31 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
> 
>  You know, thrift stores (other than goodwill) has used computers
> coming
> > out of their ears. I think we need to find a thrift store that wants
> > to
> > unload all of this used hardware for like 25 dollars apiece and put
> > Linux
> > on it and get these fully functional and modern computers out to the
> > people
> > who need them. If you buy a modern windows computer it isn't even
> > fully
> > functional unless you pay for a subscription to something. I'm
> partial
> > to
> > Linux Mint but that is up for debate.
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Re: I don't know if this has come up yet but....

2015-07-31 Thread Eric Oyen
well,
take a look at craigslist parent company: Ebay. Fully 35% of their operation is 
Linux Centric. Mostly, its the 90,000 or so email and backend servers running 
in virtual machines (like VMware). THey also run windows on some desktops as 
well as an active directory infrastructure. However, one of their biggest usage 
bases inside the company  are all of the Macbook pros they use. THere is a tiny 
sliver of OpenBSD border routers and load balancers as well. BTW, this 
information comes from a friend that works as a Sr. Systems Admin in the 
Infrastructure development Dept.

-eric

On Jul 30, 2015, at 10:59 PM, Amy Nielsen wrote:

> Once again I like learning new things regarding open source, I had no idea 
> Craigslist did any of this. I am realizing how big and widespread Linux and 
> Open Source has become, it is exciting! 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
> I was perusing craigslist and noticed a link that said 'open source'. Being 
> the ever-curious lad of 44 I clicked the link and wish to share what I found:
> 
> 
> 
> craigslist is a big believer in open source software, and relies heavily on 
> Linux, MySQL, Perl, Apache, Sphinx, Redis, Haraka, and many others.
> 
> craigslist (CL) has released the following open source projects:
> 
> CL blob service - a simple HTTP-based, multi-master storage service designed 
> for scale-out and multi-datacenter deployments:
> 
>   • multi-master architecture with no single point of failure
>   • scales well for both read and write intensive workloads  
>   • tracks TTLs for automatic expiration and purging of blobs   
>   • designed for both local and multiple data center replication
>   • pluggable index and storage interface (uses SQLite for index and 
> filesystem for storage by default)
> CL image service - large scale image resizing and processing HTTP service:
> 
>   • flexible API to choose any quality, size, and center-cropping
>   • automatically handles orientation operations from EXIF data  
>   • stores resized images in the blob service (could use other stores)
> memcache cluster proxy (MCP) - a high-performance modular clustering HTTP 
> reverse proxy:
> 
>   • high-performance event-driven daemon
>   • flexible configuration, easily extensible framework
>   • uses standard memcached memory store for caching   
>   • supports PCRE and rule-based traffic routing by URL, headers, and more
>   • tracks health of origin servers, routes around failures
>   • provides configurable URL redirects, rewrites, and real-time header 
> transformations
> In addition, craigslist contributes code to the following open source 
> projects:
> 
> Haraka:
> 
>   • added the smtp_client code that helps support pooled connections for 
> proxy queues
>   • rewrote all of the smtp_proxy and smtp_forward code
>   • major contributions to the test suite
>   • plugin that does strict DNS checking, DNS access control lists
>   • contributions to bannering support
>   • logging infrastructure changes for more robust logging
>   • plugins for aliases, access lists, etc.
> Redis:
> 
>   • perl-AnyEvent-Redis-Federated: an event-based redis client that 
> implements client-side sharding in Perl
>   • redis_util: s collection of utilities for node-redis
>   • provided support for included config files
> Sphinx:
> 
>   • provided the original persistent connections implementation
>   • craigslist sponsors useful sphinx feature developments, such as the 
> TRUNCATE INDEX command for real-time sphinx
> The craigslist Charitable Fund supports open source nonprofit organizations 
> including:
> 
>   • Apache Software Foundation
>   • Free Software Foundation
>   • Gnome Foundation
>   • Mozilla Foundation
>   • Open Source Initiative
>   • OpenStreetMap.us
>   • Perl Foundation
>   • PostgreSQL
>   • Python Software Foundation
>   • Software in the Public Interest
> 
> 
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Re: do we have a community outreach program?

2015-07-31 Thread Michael Havens
Amy, you'll have to take the gauntlet as I am now in Florida.

On 7/31/15, Amy Nielsen  wrote:
> Maybe bring up at an installfest meeting? For the record, I would volunteer
>
> On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>
>> If I was still in the Phoenixarea I would be most happy too.
>> Unfortunately
>> I am moving out of state  even in July.
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>> On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Keith Smith 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-05-21 22:32, Eric Oyen wrote:
>>>
 hmmm. thats not a bad idea. It might also be helpful to the disabled
 population (of which I am one, being totally blind). Since I use
 ubuntu with the orca screen reader here on an old toshiba laptop that
 was graciously donated to me by another member of plug over 7 years
 ago, it has been used a lot. Mostly, I use it to control the various
 pieces of ham radio gear I have (using the HamLib package) It also
 makes radio programming a bit easier when I have to use chirp (Linux
 is about the only environment where that program is even minimally
 accessible using a screen reader). btw, there is also an accessibility
 list over at Ubuntu where the various screen readers and how to use
 them are discussed. There is also the Vinux project which was
 specifically designed for blind computer users.


>>> Very interesting.
>>>
>>>
>>> Combine this with a community outreach program (say for big
 brothers/big sisters or the YMCA or the United way) and you might just
 start a whole new generation of Linux users (and programmers) who
 won't have to put up with the failing business model that is
 Microsoft.


>>>
>>> Several members of the Tucson Free Unix Group converted a school to
>>> Linux
>>> about 15 years ago using used computers donated by one or more local
>>> businesses.
>>>
>>> I worked in a business 17 years ago that had 650 employees.  Think about
>>> that.  Over a 3 or 4 year period they would replace every one of those
>>> computers.  Those used computers still have many years of life in them
>>> and
>>> by replacing M$ with Linux the old computer has a new life.  My
>>> experience
>>> is Linux needs less resources and old iron will perform decently
>>> especially
>>> if it is only 3 - 4 - 5 years old.  I have an 8 year old box that would
>>> do
>>> fine running Mint. And I suspect it could do so for 5 or more years.
>>>
>>> I think the real issue is finding the volunteers to do all this work.
>>>
>>>
>>> -eric (the other eric :) ).

 On May 21, 2015, at 4:31 PM, Michael Havens wrote:

 You know, thrift stores (other than goodwill) has used computers coming
> out of their ears. I think we need to find a thrift store that wants
> to
> unload all of this used hardware for like 25 dollars apiece and put
> Linux
> on it and get these fully functional and modern computers out to the
> people
> who need them. If you buy a modern windows computer it isn't even
> fully
> functional unless you pay for a subscription to something. I'm partial
> to
> Linux Mint but that is up for debate.
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Re: O/T : Looking for an entry level LAMP developer for contract work.

2015-07-31 Thread Amy Nielsen
i would help anyway i can

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 12:21 AM, der.hans  wrote:

> Am 23. Jul, 2015 schwätzte Keith Smith so:
>
> moin moin Keith,
>
> der.hans, is there a solution to this and if so what is it? Great piece by
>> the way.
>>
>
> Danke.
>
> The best solution I have is personal contacts via relevant technical
> groups.
>
> Sure, there is some networking via normal social interaction or social
> media, but user groups, conferences, technical mailing lists, etc. have
> much higher signal to noise ratio for technical hiring.
>
> The most important aspect of this is to be involved in the community.
>
> For developers that means you should be working on Free Software projects
> and getting patches accepted. That's your portfolio. It's also a great way
> to find companies who are hiring people to work on the project.
>
> For everyone ( including developers ) that means participating in
> community groups and events. PLUG and SCaLE are great examples of that. As
> are relevant IRC channels and mailing lists.
>
> Community participation also helps keep you fresh and helps stoke your
> motivation.
>
> HR is important ( especially when you want to know about benefits ), but
> very few companies have HR versed in tech.
>
> Expecting technical chops in HR isn't realistic. I don't expect HR to
> be versed in all the technology I've worked on over the years, just as
> I don't expect to know how to evaluate the resume or skills of someone
> applying to be an accountant or marketer or graphic artist.
>
> I do know a few recruiters who at least understand they should be involved
> in the community. They're the ones I talk to when I have questions :).
>
> Talking to people on the team that's hiring or directly to the hiring
> manager skips HR and talks to the relevant customer ( the team that is
> hiring ). Find out what the real job and figure out if it might be a good
> fit from both perspectives.
>
> Most of my jobs have come from inside referrals or seeing someone in IRC
> mention that they're looking for someone. I've also earned quite a few
> referral bonuses in the last couple of years. I've also referred people
> into companies I don't work at.
>
> So, what can "we" do?
>
> Last year I hosted several job events at Stammtisch. We had a couple of
> hires through that. There were two types of events: job networking; resume
> assistance.
>
> The job networking event works best if we have hiring managers or
> engineers from teams that are hiring attending.
>
> The resume assistance was me and one of the recruiters I know going over
> resumes and helping people improve them. A big part of the assistance was
> helping entry-level and junior-level applicants list all of their relevant
> experience.
>
> I would like to continue with the job events, but we need more people
> helping. For instance, I had planned to have one during the last 3 months,
> but kept getting busy and not announcing it.
>
> Who is interested in helping?
>
> ciao,
>
> der.hans
>
>
> On 2015-07-22 22:40, der.hans wrote:
>>
>>> Am 22. Jul, 2015 schwätzte Nathan England so:
>>>
>>> moin moin,
>>>
>>> The company I currently work for has 3 developer position openings and
 in 4 months we've had only two candidates apply. That seems to me a real
 need for developers. Either that or the job description is too complicated
 for them to get past.

>>>
>>> ( None of this is pointing at any specific person or company, it just
>>> seems like the best place in the thread to mention it. )
>>>
>>> There's an open secret about tech unemployment, it's been really low for
>>> years, even when general unemployment was really high.
>>>
>>> Due to this apparently being a secret, we get job descriptions that list
>>> every technology someone can cut and paste from Internet search results.
>>>
>>> But, since tech unemployment is actually low, it's hard to find
>>> candidates.
>>>
>>> In tech we're also usually looking for specialists. Do welding companies
>>> ask for someone expert in one particular welder? Are there dozens of
>>> brands of welders to choose from such that skills ( from the viewpoint of
>>> HR ) don't transfer to another brand of welder? Sorry, you only know java
>>> welders...
>>>
>>> So, we have a lack of candidates because people have jobs and don't
>>> need to look around and also because job descriptions are searching for
>>> unrealistic lists of skills while simultaneously focusing on narrow
>>> fields.
>>>
>>> Then, when candidates do appear, many get overlooked due to the narrow
>>> field view or lack of buzzwork bingo on their resumes. The habitually
>>> unemployed or new to the field seem are really up against heavy odds,
>>> even
>>> in the low unemployment state we've been in for years.
>>>
>>> Even an expert will have a learning curve to learn how your environment
>>> does it. The example I like to give is that if you hire Larry Wall to
>>> join
>>> your Perl team ( or Guido von Rossum for Python or Rasmus Lerdorf for