Re: How to add an ssd drive?
If you just want to outright replace the existing drive, it super easy, just get a SATA SSD and the drive pops out the left side of the machine with just one screw. If you would like to keep the 500Gig drive and use it for bulk storage as well as a smaller SSD for the system it is only slightly harder. It also requires the removal of 1 screw. Just take out the screw from the plate on the bottom and it will snap out. Then there is a slot next to the RAM that the mSATA drive clicks into. Just make sure that you move the antenna wires out of the way before you put the bottom plate back on and you are done. I recommend using a piece of tape to hold the antenna wires in place. If you find that there is a card in there already, it is probably a mobile Internet card which my guess is that you will probably not be using. Just pull the antenna wires off it and remove it. The T420 can hold a total of 4 hard drive. 1 SATA in the HD slot. 1 mSATA, 1 regular SATA in the DVD drive bay, that requires the purchase of a tray, and 1 SSD in the express card slot. Technically you could count a large SD card as a 5th drive if you really wanted. Pretty good expandability for such a small computer. Brian Cluff On 10/06/2015 05:34 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Brian Cluff last wrote: You'll enjoy that Laptop a lot. I just picked up a T420 myself a few weeks ago and everything works perfect right out of the box. I did add 8 gigs of ram for a total of 12 and installed a 240Gig mSATA SSD ... an addition to the 320 Gig spinning drive that I put /home on, and that made a huge difference in the speed of all the apps loading. How difficult is it to add an SSD? I really don't need the 500-gig HD that is in this T420 that I just bought. On my old net-top system, df shows this: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda5 15307020 6231552 8307468 43% / udev 10207084 1020704 1% /dev tmpfs 412276 1060411216 1% /run none51200 5120 0% /run/lock none 103068021072 1009608 3% /run/shm /dev/sda6 71559236 26600696 41374540 40% /home Instead of flushing the 500-gig HD, could I just install a 64-gig or 128-gig SSD and install Linux on that and leave the 500-gig unused? I don't need to bother with dual boot. I looked on Amazon and saw these: Transcend 64GB SATA III 6Gb/s MSA370 mSATA Solid State Drive (TS64GMSA370) by Transcend $39.99 Prime MyDigitalSSD 128GB 50mm Bullet Proof 4 BP4 50mm mSATA Solid State Drive SSD SATA III 6G - MDMS-BP4-120 by MyDigitalSSD $55.00 Prime or $44.95 used (3 offers) Also, what is the best way to install Linux Mint 17.2? I downloaded linuxmint-17.2-mate-32bit.iso but the size is 1,572,864,000 so I can't burn that onto a dvd to install it. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RE: How to add an ssd drive?
"How difficult is it to add an SSD?" No difference at all to installing to a HDD, in my experience. "Instead of flushing the 500-gig HD, could I just install a 64-gig or 128-gig SSD and install Linux on that and leave the 500-gig unused?" Shouldn't be any issue at all to do that. Do you have a system that can accept two HDDs (or SSDs), and you plan to keep both of them installed/inserted at the same time? Probably the easiest thing to do is remove the HDD and put the SSD into that bay. Get the system installed onto the SSD without the HDD installed. If you need/want to put that HDD back in the system, use the secondary bay and leave your newly installed SSD in the original/primary bay. "Also, what is the best way to install Linux Mint 17.2?" Burn the ISO to a USB drive; it's the only way to fly. (Many laptops don't even have a CD/DVD drive installed these days.) -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of j...@actionline.com Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 20:35 To: plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org Subject: How to add an ssd drive? Brian Cluff last wrote: > You'll enjoy that Laptop a lot. I just picked up a T420 myself a few > weeks ago and everything works perfect right out of the box. > I did add 8 gigs of ram for a total of 12 and installed a 240Gig mSATA > SSD ... an addition to the 320 Gig spinning drive that I put /home on, > and that made a huge difference in the speed of all the apps loading. How difficult is it to add an SSD? I really don't need the 500-gig HD that is in this T420 that I just bought. On my old net-top system, df shows this: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda5 15307020 6231552 8307468 43% / udev 10207084 1020704 1% /dev tmpfs 412276 1060411216 1% /run none51200 5120 0% /run/lock none 103068021072 1009608 3% /run/shm /dev/sda6 71559236 26600696 41374540 40% /home Instead of flushing the 500-gig HD, could I just install a 64-gig or 128-gig SSD and install Linux on that and leave the 500-gig unused? I don't need to bother with dual boot. I looked on Amazon and saw these: Transcend 64GB SATA III 6Gb/s MSA370 mSATA Solid State Drive (TS64GMSA370) by Transcend $39.99 Prime MyDigitalSSD 128GB 50mm Bullet Proof 4 BP4 50mm mSATA Solid State Drive SSD SATA III 6G - MDMS-BP4-120 by MyDigitalSSD $55.00 Prime or $44.95 used (3 offers) Also, what is the best way to install Linux Mint 17.2? I downloaded linuxmint-17.2-mate-32bit.iso but the size is 1,572,864,000 so I can't burn that onto a dvd to install it. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: How to add an ssd drive?
Looks like what I want to do for my wife's laptop On Oct 6, 2015 5:41 PM, wrote: > Brian Cluff last wrote: > > You'll enjoy that Laptop a lot. I just picked up a T420 myself > > a few weeks ago and everything works perfect right out of the box. > > I did add 8 gigs of ram for a total of 12 and installed a 240Gig > > mSATA SSD ... an addition to the 320 Gig spinning drive that > > I put /home on, and that made a huge difference in the speed > > of all the apps loading. > > How difficult is it to add an SSD? > > I really don't need the 500-gig HD that is in this T420 > that I just bought. On my old net-top system, df shows this: > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on > /dev/sda5 15307020 6231552 8307468 43% / > udev 10207084 1020704 1% /dev > tmpfs 412276 1060411216 1% /run > none51200 5120 0% /run/lock > none 103068021072 1009608 3% /run/shm > /dev/sda6 71559236 26600696 41374540 40% /home > > Instead of flushing the 500-gig HD, could I just install > a 64-gig or 128-gig SSD and install Linux on that and leave > the 500-gig unused? I don't need to bother with dual boot. > > I looked on Amazon and saw these: > > Transcend 64GB SATA III 6Gb/s MSA370 mSATA Solid State Drive > (TS64GMSA370) by Transcend $39.99 Prime > > MyDigitalSSD 128GB 50mm Bullet Proof 4 BP4 50mm mSATA > Solid State Drive SSD SATA III 6G - MDMS-BP4-120 > by MyDigitalSSD $55.00 Prime or $44.95 used (3 offers) > > Also, what is the best way to install Linux Mint 17.2? > > I downloaded linuxmint-17.2-mate-32bit.iso but the size > is 1,572,864,000 so I can't burn that onto a dvd to > install it. > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup
Thanks Rusty for all your help!! On 2015-10-06 09:57, Rusty Ramser wrote: "Thank you for your help!!" No worries, mate. If I'm actually providing any help :) you're quite welcome. It sounds like to me you're wanting to use name-based virtual hosts on Apache. Like thus: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/vhosts/name-based.html If you will have one public IP address for your multiple domains (aka, web sites), then you will need an entry in an external DNS hoster for each. Each domain DNS record will point to the same public IP address (your single web server). And then it will be up to your Apache server to see www.wheresmycar.net, www.dogsmakingfaces.com, and www.localbeerspecials.com serve up the appropriate web site. (Note: I'm just guessing that those are the three web sites you're using; don't know for sure.) Your web server's non-routable internal IP address shouldn't really ever come into play during normal usage scenarios. Sure, if you enter the IP locally on your system you'll get the default page, but that's not really what external users will ever do. Once you have external DNS host records set up for each domain, you should be able to test the name-based Apache functionality. Or, if you want to do that locally before advertising external DNS addresses you should be able to make some temporary /etc/hosts entries on your web server which all point to its non-routable IP, just as a test. Cheers. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Keith Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 12:27 To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup Thank you for your help!! Cox provides the public / routable IP which is set on my router / modem. I have a web server that servers several websites. I use NAT for port forwarding to that one box. Without a DNS server, either local or external, how will Apache know which site to server up? If I put the IP in my browser I get the default "website" which is no website at all - it is the default welcome page. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Rusty Ramser Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 12:10 To: 'Main PLUG discussion list' Subject: RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup I'm not sure that's a valid assumption, regarding needing a DNS server even with that functionality. Maybe it is in your specific use, but it doesn't strike me as a guaranteed necessity. The learning aspect of it, however, is something I can't debate. If that's part of your goals, then by all means run wild with it. :) Cheers. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Keith Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 12:03 To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup I assume I need a DNS server since the box is a web server and will be hosting a couple websites and there will be email as well. And part of the reason I am doing this is to learn. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Rusty Ramser Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:53 To: 'Main PLUG discussion list' Subject: RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup From the scenario you describe, no, I don't see that creating your own reverse lookup zone would be necessary. Your web server has no other internal systems in your environment to look up. And for external reverse lookups using the public information (from Cox, Google, OpenDNS, or whatever your preference) should be fine. I wouldn't create something that would just require extra management/maintenance when there's no real use case for it. (Actually, for just a single box that is only accepting NATed web traffic, I'm not even sure I understand the need for a forward lookup zone on your server. Is there some reason that its client DNS configuration can't just point to your preferred DNS provider? Do you really need a DNS server functioning on the box?) Cheers. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Keith Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:14 To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup Thanks Rusty. It is one box. It is on a non-routable IP. I use NAT for ports 80, 443, 53... etc. So are you saying I need to make a reverse lookup for the non-routable IP? Thanks!! Keith -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Rusty Ramser Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:05 To: 'Main PLUG discussion list' Subject: RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup Hi, Keith. Will your environment be needing
How to add an ssd drive?
Brian Cluff last wrote: > You'll enjoy that Laptop a lot. I just picked up a T420 myself > a few weeks ago and everything works perfect right out of the box. > I did add 8 gigs of ram for a total of 12 and installed a 240Gig > mSATA SSD ... an addition to the 320 Gig spinning drive that > I put /home on, and that made a huge difference in the speed > of all the apps loading. How difficult is it to add an SSD? I really don't need the 500-gig HD that is in this T420 that I just bought. On my old net-top system, df shows this: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda5 15307020 6231552 8307468 43% / udev 10207084 1020704 1% /dev tmpfs 412276 1060411216 1% /run none51200 5120 0% /run/lock none 103068021072 1009608 3% /run/shm /dev/sda6 71559236 26600696 41374540 40% /home Instead of flushing the 500-gig HD, could I just install a 64-gig or 128-gig SSD and install Linux on that and leave the 500-gig unused? I don't need to bother with dual boot. I looked on Amazon and saw these: Transcend 64GB SATA III 6Gb/s MSA370 mSATA Solid State Drive (TS64GMSA370) by Transcend $39.99 Prime MyDigitalSSD 128GB 50mm Bullet Proof 4 BP4 50mm mSATA Solid State Drive SSD SATA III 6G - MDMS-BP4-120 by MyDigitalSSD $55.00 Prime or $44.95 used (3 offers) Also, what is the best way to install Linux Mint 17.2? I downloaded linuxmint-17.2-mate-32bit.iso but the size is 1,572,864,000 so I can't burn that onto a dvd to install it. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: What is your system advice? Solved.
You'll enjoy that Laptop a lot. I just picked up a T420 myself a few weeks ago and everything works perfect right out of the box. I did add 8 gigs of ram for a total of 12Gig and installed a 240Gig mSATA SSD that I installed the system on and that's an addition to the 320 Gig spinning drive that I put /home on, and that made a huge difference in the speed of all the apps loading. It's nice having a laptop that doesn't weigh a million pounds. I picked it up so that I would have something light(er) to take to SCaLE, but I have to admit that I'm hauling it all over the place because of it's size (compared to the monsters that I usually use). Brian Cluff On 10/06/2015 04:02 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Thanks again for all the helpful input in response to my recent question: "What is your advice to update my system?" After much research, I finally decided that, for my needs, the best option was a used T420 Thinkpad. I've had excellent results with IBM Thinkpads and never had one fail. Now they are all Lenovo, of course; and I found one from a private party on Craigslist for $200 that looks absolutely brand new, like it has never been used, and with 8-Gb RAM. Lots of them on ebay for as little as $99 with no OS and priced all over the map up to $500 and even more. Now just need to flush the 500-gig hard drive and install Linux Mint and I should be good to go for the next 5 years or longer. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: What is your system advice? Solved.
Thanks again for all the helpful input in response to my recent question: "What is your advice to update my system?" After much research, I finally decided that, for my needs, the best option was a used T420 Thinkpad. I've had excellent results with IBM Thinkpads and never had one fail. Now they are all Lenovo, of course; and I found one from a private party on Craigslist for $200 that looks absolutely brand new, like it has never been used, and with 8-Gb RAM. Lots of them on ebay for as little as $99 with no OS and priced all over the map up to $500 and even more. Now just need to flush the 500-gig hard drive and install Linux Mint and I should be good to go for the next 5 years or longer. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup
"Thank you for your help!!" No worries, mate. If I'm actually providing any help :) you're quite welcome. It sounds like to me you're wanting to use name-based virtual hosts on Apache. Like thus: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/vhosts/name-based.html If you will have one public IP address for your multiple domains (aka, web sites), then you will need an entry in an external DNS hoster for each. Each domain DNS record will point to the same public IP address (your single web server). And then it will be up to your Apache server to see www.wheresmycar.net, www.dogsmakingfaces.com, and www.localbeerspecials.com serve up the appropriate web site. (Note: I'm just guessing that those are the three web sites you're using; don't know for sure.) Your web server's non-routable internal IP address shouldn't really ever come into play during normal usage scenarios. Sure, if you enter the IP locally on your system you'll get the default page, but that's not really what external users will ever do. Once you have external DNS host records set up for each domain, you should be able to test the name-based Apache functionality. Or, if you want to do that locally before advertising external DNS addresses you should be able to make some temporary /etc/hosts entries on your web server which all point to its non-routable IP, just as a test. Cheers. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Keith Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 12:27 To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup Thank you for your help!! Cox provides the public / routable IP which is set on my router / modem. I have a web server that servers several websites. I use NAT for port forwarding to that one box. Without a DNS server, either local or external, how will Apache know which site to server up? If I put the IP in my browser I get the default "website" which is no website at all - it is the default welcome page. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Rusty Ramser Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 12:10 To: 'Main PLUG discussion list' Subject: RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup I'm not sure that's a valid assumption, regarding needing a DNS server even with that functionality. Maybe it is in your specific use, but it doesn't strike me as a guaranteed necessity. The learning aspect of it, however, is something I can't debate. If that's part of your goals, then by all means run wild with it. :) Cheers. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Keith Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 12:03 To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup I assume I need a DNS server since the box is a web server and will be hosting a couple websites and there will be email as well. And part of the reason I am doing this is to learn. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Rusty Ramser Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:53 To: 'Main PLUG discussion list' Subject: RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup >From the scenario you describe, no, I don't see that creating your own reverse lookup zone would be necessary. Your web server has no other internal systems in your environment to look up. And for external reverse lookups using the public information (from Cox, Google, OpenDNS, or whatever your preference) should be fine. I wouldn't create something that would just require extra management/maintenance when there's no real use case for it. (Actually, for just a single box that is only accepting NATed web traffic, I'm not even sure I understand the need for a forward lookup zone on your server. Is there some reason that its client DNS configuration can't just point to your preferred DNS provider? Do you really need a DNS server functioning on the box?) Cheers. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Keith Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:14 To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup Thanks Rusty. It is one box. It is on a non-routable IP. I use NAT for ports 80, 443, 53... etc. So are you saying I need to make a reverse lookup for the non-routable IP? Thanks!! Keith -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Rusty Ramser Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:05 To: 'Main PLUG discussion list' Subject: RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup Hi, Keith. Will your environment be needing to do internal lookups based upon IP? For instance, are you using a non-routable set of IP addresses (e.g., 10.x.x.x, 192.168.x
RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup
Thank you for your help!! Cox provides the public / routable IP which is set on my router / modem. I have a web server that servers several websites. I use NAT for port forwarding to that one box. Without a DNS server, either local or external, how will Apache know which site to server up? If I put the IP in my browser I get the default "website" which is no website at all - it is the default welcome page. On 2015-10-06 09:10, Rusty Ramser wrote: I'm not sure that's a valid assumption, regarding needing a DNS server even with that functionality. Maybe it is in your specific use, but it doesn't strike me as a guaranteed necessity. The learning aspect of it, however, is something I can't debate. If that's part of your goals, then by all means run wild with it. :) Cheers. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Keith Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 12:03 To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup I assume I need a DNS server since the box is a web server and will be hosting a couple websites and there will be email as well. And part of the reason I am doing this is to learn. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Rusty Ramser Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:53 To: 'Main PLUG discussion list' Subject: RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup From the scenario you describe, no, I don't see that creating your own reverse lookup zone would be necessary. Your web server has no other internal systems in your environment to look up. And for external reverse lookups using the public information (from Cox, Google, OpenDNS, or whatever your preference) should be fine. I wouldn't create something that would just require extra management/maintenance when there's no real use case for it. (Actually, for just a single box that is only accepting NATed web traffic, I'm not even sure I understand the need for a forward lookup zone on your server. Is there some reason that its client DNS configuration can't just point to your preferred DNS provider? Do you really need a DNS server functioning on the box?) Cheers. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Keith Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:14 To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup Thanks Rusty. It is one box. It is on a non-routable IP. I use NAT for ports 80, 443, 53... etc. So are you saying I need to make a reverse lookup for the non-routable IP? Thanks!! Keith -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Rusty Ramser Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:05 To: 'Main PLUG discussion list' Subject: RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup Hi, Keith. Will your environment be needing to do internal lookups based upon IP? For instance, are you using a non-routable set of IP addresses (e.g., 10.x.x.x, 192.168.x.x) for your environment behind NAT, and will those systems need to perform name resolution of each other based upon IP? If so, yes, you'll want to have your own internal reverse lookup zone because obviously Cox (or any other public DNS provider) will not have that information. If you really don't need any internal reverse name resolution, then there may be no need to create a zone. For instance, there isn't an "environment" of servers you have, it's just this single web server. And the web server doesn't have any internal network it sits on, it's just got a public, routable IP address. Cheers. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Keith Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 10:11 To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup Hi, I'm configuring Bind9 on my web server connected to Cox. Cox configures the IP reverse lookup. Do I still need to create a reverse zone file? The reverse zone file is to lookup the host by IP correct? Thank you for your help!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change yo
RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup
I'm not sure that's a valid assumption, regarding needing a DNS server even with that functionality. Maybe it is in your specific use, but it doesn't strike me as a guaranteed necessity. The learning aspect of it, however, is something I can't debate. If that's part of your goals, then by all means run wild with it. :) Cheers. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Keith Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 12:03 To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup I assume I need a DNS server since the box is a web server and will be hosting a couple websites and there will be email as well. And part of the reason I am doing this is to learn. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Rusty Ramser Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:53 To: 'Main PLUG discussion list' Subject: RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup >From the scenario you describe, no, I don't see that creating your own reverse lookup zone would be necessary. Your web server has no other internal systems in your environment to look up. And for external reverse lookups using the public information (from Cox, Google, OpenDNS, or whatever your preference) should be fine. I wouldn't create something that would just require extra management/maintenance when there's no real use case for it. (Actually, for just a single box that is only accepting NATed web traffic, I'm not even sure I understand the need for a forward lookup zone on your server. Is there some reason that its client DNS configuration can't just point to your preferred DNS provider? Do you really need a DNS server functioning on the box?) Cheers. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Keith Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:14 To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup Thanks Rusty. It is one box. It is on a non-routable IP. I use NAT for ports 80, 443, 53... etc. So are you saying I need to make a reverse lookup for the non-routable IP? Thanks!! Keith -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Rusty Ramser Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:05 To: 'Main PLUG discussion list' Subject: RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup Hi, Keith. Will your environment be needing to do internal lookups based upon IP? For instance, are you using a non-routable set of IP addresses (e.g., 10.x.x.x, 192.168.x.x) for your environment behind NAT, and will those systems need to perform name resolution of each other based upon IP? If so, yes, you'll want to have your own internal reverse lookup zone because obviously Cox (or any other public DNS provider) will not have that information. If you really don't need any internal reverse name resolution, then there may be no need to create a zone. For instance, there isn't an "environment" of servers you have, it's just this single web server. And the web server doesn't have any internal network it sits on, it's just got a public, routable IP address. Cheers. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Keith Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 10:11 To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup Hi, I'm configuring Bind9 on my web server connected to Cox. Cox configures the IP reverse lookup. Do I still need to create a reverse zone file? The reverse zone file is to lookup the host by IP correct? Thank you for your help!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup
On 2015-10-06 08:52, Rusty Ramser wrote: From the scenario you describe, no, I don't see that creating your own reverse lookup zone would be necessary. Your web server has no other internal systems in your environment to look up. And for external reverse lookups using the public information (from Cox, Google, OpenDNS, or whatever your preference) should be fine. I wouldn't create something that would just require extra management/maintenance when there's no real use case for it. (Actually, for just a single box that is only accepting NATed web traffic, I'm not even sure I understand the need for a forward lookup zone on your server. Is there some reason that its client DNS configuration can't just point to your preferred DNS provider? Do you really need a DNS server functioning on the box?) I assume I need a DNS server since the box is a web server and will be hosting a couple websites and there will be email as well. And part of the reason I am doing this is to learn. Cheers. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Keith Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:14 To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup Thanks Rusty. It is one box. It is on a non-routable IP. I use NAT for ports 80, 443, 53... etc. So are you saying I need to make a reverse lookup for the non-routable IP? Thanks!! Keith -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Rusty Ramser Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:05 To: 'Main PLUG discussion list' Subject: RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup Hi, Keith. Will your environment be needing to do internal lookups based upon IP? For instance, are you using a non-routable set of IP addresses (e.g., 10.x.x.x, 192.168.x.x) for your environment behind NAT, and will those systems need to perform name resolution of each other based upon IP? If so, yes, you'll want to have your own internal reverse lookup zone because obviously Cox (or any other public DNS provider) will not have that information. If you really don't need any internal reverse name resolution, then there may be no need to create a zone. For instance, there isn't an "environment" of servers you have, it's just this single web server. And the web server doesn't have any internal network it sits on, it's just got a public, routable IP address. Cheers. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Keith Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 10:11 To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup Hi, I'm configuring Bind9 on my web server connected to Cox. Cox configures the IP reverse lookup. Do I still need to create a reverse zone file? The reverse zone file is to lookup the host by IP correct? Thank you for your help!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup
>From the scenario you describe, no, I don't see that creating your own reverse lookup zone would be necessary. Your web server has no other internal systems in your environment to look up. And for external reverse lookups using the public information (from Cox, Google, OpenDNS, or whatever your preference) should be fine. I wouldn't create something that would just require extra management/maintenance when there's no real use case for it. (Actually, for just a single box that is only accepting NATed web traffic, I'm not even sure I understand the need for a forward lookup zone on your server. Is there some reason that its client DNS configuration can't just point to your preferred DNS provider? Do you really need a DNS server functioning on the box?) Cheers. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Keith Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:14 To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup Thanks Rusty. It is one box. It is on a non-routable IP. I use NAT for ports 80, 443, 53... etc. So are you saying I need to make a reverse lookup for the non-routable IP? Thanks!! Keith -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Rusty Ramser Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:05 To: 'Main PLUG discussion list' Subject: RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup Hi, Keith. Will your environment be needing to do internal lookups based upon IP? For instance, are you using a non-routable set of IP addresses (e.g., 10.x.x.x, 192.168.x.x) for your environment behind NAT, and will those systems need to perform name resolution of each other based upon IP? If so, yes, you'll want to have your own internal reverse lookup zone because obviously Cox (or any other public DNS provider) will not have that information. If you really don't need any internal reverse name resolution, then there may be no need to create a zone. For instance, there isn't an "environment" of servers you have, it's just this single web server. And the web server doesn't have any internal network it sits on, it's just got a public, routable IP address. Cheers. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Keith Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 10:11 To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup Hi, I'm configuring Bind9 on my web server connected to Cox. Cox configures the IP reverse lookup. Do I still need to create a reverse zone file? The reverse zone file is to lookup the host by IP correct? Thank you for your help!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup
Thanks Rusty. It is one box. It is on a non-routable IP. I use NAT for ports 80, 443, 53... etc. So are you saying I need to make a reverse lookup for the non-routable IP? Thanks!! Keith On 2015-10-06 08:04, Rusty Ramser wrote: Hi, Keith. Will your environment be needing to do internal lookups based upon IP? For instance, are you using a non-routable set of IP addresses (e.g., 10.x.x.x, 192.168.x.x) for your environment behind NAT, and will those systems need to perform name resolution of each other based upon IP? If so, yes, you'll want to have your own internal reverse lookup zone because obviously Cox (or any other public DNS provider) will not have that information. If you really don't need any internal reverse name resolution, then there may be no need to create a zone. For instance, there isn't an "environment" of servers you have, it's just this single web server. And the web server doesn't have any internal network it sits on, it's just got a public, routable IP address. Cheers. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Keith Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 10:11 To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup Hi, I'm configuring Bind9 on my web server connected to Cox. Cox configures the IP reverse lookup. Do I still need to create a reverse zone file? The reverse zone file is to lookup the host by IP correct? Thank you for your help!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RE: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup
Hi, Keith. Will your environment be needing to do internal lookups based upon IP? For instance, are you using a non-routable set of IP addresses (e.g., 10.x.x.x, 192.168.x.x) for your environment behind NAT, and will those systems need to perform name resolution of each other based upon IP? If so, yes, you'll want to have your own internal reverse lookup zone because obviously Cox (or any other public DNS provider) will not have that information. If you really don't need any internal reverse name resolution, then there may be no need to create a zone. For instance, there isn't an "environment" of servers you have, it's just this single web server. And the web server doesn't have any internal network it sits on, it's just got a public, routable IP address. Cheers. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Keith Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 10:11 To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup Hi, I'm configuring Bind9 on my web server connected to Cox. Cox configures the IP reverse lookup. Do I still need to create a reverse zone file? The reverse zone file is to lookup the host by IP correct? Thank you for your help!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Bind9 / Cox reverse lookup
Hi, I'm configuring Bind9 on my web server connected to Cox. Cox configures the IP reverse lookup. Do I still need to create a reverse zone file? The reverse zone file is to lookup the host by IP correct? Thank you for your help!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
