Re: I want to download a program (mint 19.1)

[kitepilot]

wget -c http://url.to/file.iso 




Michael writes: 

sorry. I meant I want to download an ISO. 

On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 6:34 AM  wrote: 

apt-get install and/or dpkg! 



Michael writes: 


> should I use wget?
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Mint 19.1 updates

[Daniel Stasinski]

I've noticed that since upgrading from Mint 19 to 19.1, there has not been
a single update of any package.  Has there just been 0 updates or did
something break on my end?

*Daniel P. Stasinski*
dan...@genericinbox.com
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Re: android question

[Matt Graham]

On Mon, Dec 31, 2018, 10:42 AM Jim 
My current phone is from cricket.  I don't like their idea of
blocking a feature the manufacturer built into the phone
(sharing the internet connection) and charging to restore it.


But if they just let you use the phone's full features, how are they 
going to make any money?


On 2018-12-31 11:57, Bob Elzer wrote:

the other unlocking involves unlocking the bootloader which
lets you replace the roms or root your phone. most manufacturers
don't want you doing this because it makes your phone unsecure.


Security has nothing to do with it.  They don't want you to replace the 
ROM because the stock one comes with a bunch of useless garbage like 
Samsung Pay, Samsung Internet, and Samsung Cloud Backup that they want 
you to use.  If you use those things, they get user data and potentially 
money out of you.  See previous message about "pm uninstall" for a way 
to deal with the garbage.



You want to root your phone and run some other app that will let you
run a mobile hotspot app that hopefully your carrier won't be able to
detect it. You should google your phone and carrier to see if anyone
has accomplished this before you spend the money.
These things don't always work.


Yes, this.  Every "root phone N" page I've seen looks insanely sketchy. 
It must be possible to do for at least some phones.


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Re: android question

[Bob Elzer]

There are two kinds of unlocking, carrier unlocking which lets you use the
phone on any carrier, this is free providing you have paid for your phone
your carrier will provide you with a code or an app to unlock it. this has
nothing to do with using your phone as a mobile hotspot.

the other unlocking involves unlocking the bootloader which lets you
replace the roms or root your phone. most manufacturers don't want you
doing this because it makes your phone unsecure.

rooting the phone usually involves running an exploit that gives you root
and allows you to install su (superuser) so you can grant those permissions
to other apps.

You want to root your phone and run some other app that will let you run a
mobile hotspot app that hopefully your carrier won't be able to detect it.
You should google your phone and carrier to see if anyone has accomplished
this before you spend the money.

These things don't always work.


On Mon, Dec 31, 2018, 10:42 AM Jim  My current phone is from cricket.  I don't like their idea of blocking a
> feature the manufacturer built into the phone (sharing the internet
> connection) and charging to restore it.  The LG X charge I had when I
> was with comcast enables  the sharing of the phone's internet
> connection.  I think i'll pay the $20 to get it unlocked then put the
> cricket sim card in it.
>
> On 12/31/18 10:15 AM, Matt Graham wrote:
> >> On 12/30/18 10:57 PM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. wrote:
> >>> If it is a AT device then you are dead in the water. There is no
> >>> way to unlock the bootloader on those deives.
> > On 2018-12-31 04:55, Jim wrote:
> >> Thanks Alexander, Stephen and Herminio. I've learned a lesson here.
> >> Make sure the device can be rooted before buying it.
> >
> > Also note that things can be more complicated than that.  The Samsung
> > Galaxy S7 was listed on lineageos.org as working.  This is only
> > half-correct.  The Galaxy S7s that are sold in Europe and Asia can
> > have their bootloaders unlocked.  The Galaxy S7s that are sold in the
> > USA cannot.  So check very carefully before buying anything.  I
> > *think* the best bet right now is an LG phone; many are supposed to be
> > unlockable.  None of the LG phones my carrier is selling are listed on
> > https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/ though.
> >
> > The other thing casual users may not know is that it's possible to
> > uninstall some things that appear to be stuck forever.  "adb shell"
> > then "pm list packages | sort | more" and find the thing you want to
> > get rid of (com.facebook.evil or whatever).  Then "pm uninstall
> > com.facebook.app" or whatever and you will bypass that "can't
> > uninstall this from the settings->apps menu" problem. NOTE:  Back up
> > your phone before doing this, in case you accidentally uninstall
> > something you find you need later.
> >
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Re: I want to download a program (mint 19.1)

[Bob Elzer]

go to the website, click on the download link of the version you want

simple


On Mon, Dec 31, 2018, 11:01 AM Michael  sorry. I meant I want to download an ISO.
>
> On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 6:34 AM  wrote:
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>> apt-get install and/or dpkg!
>>
>>
>> Michael writes:
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Re: I want to download a program (mint 19.1)

[Michael]

sorry. I meant I want to download an ISO.

On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 6:34 AM  wrote:

> apt-get install and/or dpkg!
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Re: android question

[Jim]

My current phone is from cricket.  I don't like their idea of blocking a 
feature the manufacturer built into the phone (sharing the internet 
connection) and charging to restore it.  The LG X charge I had when I 
was with comcast enables  the sharing of the phone's internet 
connection.  I think i'll pay the $20 to get it unlocked then put the 
cricket sim card in it.


On 12/31/18 10:15 AM, Matt Graham wrote:

On 12/30/18 10:57 PM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. wrote:

If it is a AT device then you are dead in the water. There is no
way to unlock the bootloader on those deives.

On 2018-12-31 04:55, Jim wrote:

Thanks Alexander, Stephen and Herminio. I've learned a lesson here.
Make sure the device can be rooted before buying it.


Also note that things can be more complicated than that.  The Samsung 
Galaxy S7 was listed on lineageos.org as working.  This is only 
half-correct.  The Galaxy S7s that are sold in Europe and Asia can 
have their bootloaders unlocked.  The Galaxy S7s that are sold in the 
USA cannot.  So check very carefully before buying anything.  I 
*think* the best bet right now is an LG phone; many are supposed to be 
unlockable.  None of the LG phones my carrier is selling are listed on 
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/ though.


The other thing casual users may not know is that it's possible to 
uninstall some things that appear to be stuck forever.  "adb shell" 
then "pm list packages | sort | more" and find the thing you want to 
get rid of (com.facebook.evil or whatever).  Then "pm uninstall 
com.facebook.app" or whatever and you will bypass that "can't 
uninstall this from the settings->apps menu" problem. NOTE:  Back up 
your phone before doing this, in case you accidentally uninstall 
something you find you need later.



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Re: android question

[Matt Graham]

On 12/30/18 10:57 PM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. wrote:

If it is a AT device then you are dead in the water. There is no
way to unlock the bootloader on those deives.

On 2018-12-31 04:55, Jim wrote:

Thanks Alexander, Stephen and Herminio.  I've learned a lesson here. 
Make sure the device can be rooted before buying it.


Also note that things can be more complicated than that.  The Samsung 
Galaxy S7 was listed on lineageos.org as working.  This is only 
half-correct.  The Galaxy S7s that are sold in Europe and Asia can have 
their bootloaders unlocked.  The Galaxy S7s that are sold in the USA 
cannot.  So check very carefully before buying anything.  I *think* the 
best bet right now is an LG phone; many are supposed to be unlockable.  
None of the LG phones my carrier is selling are listed on 
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/ though.


The other thing casual users may not know is that it's possible to 
uninstall some things that appear to be stuck forever.  "adb shell" then 
"pm list packages | sort | more" and find the thing you want to get rid 
of (com.facebook.evil or whatever).  Then "pm uninstall 
com.facebook.app" or whatever and you will bypass that "can't uninstall 
this from the settings->apps menu" problem.  NOTE:  Back up your phone 
before doing this, in case you accidentally uninstall something you find 
you need later.


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Re: Happy New Year

[Bob Elzer]

Happy New Year!!

One more year left before my Y2K patch stops working.


On Mon, Dec 31, 2018, 12:45 AM der.hans  moin moin,
>
> not quite there yet, but I hope everyone has a happy and safe transition
> to the new year.
>
> As always, we will start the year off with mailman day :).
>
> Looking forward to seeing everyone on the 10th for our next east side
> meeting.
>
> There will be a job networking event before Stammtisch starting at 18:00
> on the 15th.
>
> The security meeting will return on the 17th.
>
> ciao,
>
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Re: Happy New Year

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Happy New Year!!

2019 has the potential to be a great year for tech!!!

Keith



On 2018-12-31 00:35, der.hans wrote:

moin moin,

not quite there yet, but I hope everyone has a happy and safe 
transition

to the new year.

As always, we will start the year off with mailman day :).

Looking forward to seeing everyone on the 10th for our next east side
meeting.

There will be a job networking event before Stammtisch starting at 
18:00

on the 15th.

The security meeting will return on the 17th.

ciao,

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Re: android question

[Jim]

Thanks Alexander, Stephen and Herminio.  I've learned a lesson here.  
Make sure the device can be rooted before buying it.


On 12/30/18 10:57 PM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. wrote:
If it is a AT device then you are dead in the water. There is no way 
to unlock the bootloader on those deives.


On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 10:52 PM Stephen Partington 
mailto:cryptwo...@gmail.com>> wrote:


This really will vary depending on the device. And if you are
still paying for it. If paid you can try the provider you bought
it from.

On Sun, Dec 30, 2018, 9:00 PM Snyder, Alexander J
mailto:a...@misteralexander.com> wrote:

There are lots of quality bootloader tools here. Also, lots of
custom ROMs. Beware virus and spyware, only use ROMs the
community vouches for, from known/respected people.

https://forum.xda-developers.com/android

Thanks,
Alexander.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+

On Sun, Dec 30, 2018, 20:39 Jim mailto:azano...@gmail.com> wrote:

Does anyone know of a way to unlock the bootloader of an
android device
if the manufacturer has locked it and won't supply a code
to unlock it?
Where would be a good place to look?
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Re: I want to download a program (mint 19.1)

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apt-get install and/or dpkg! 



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