Re: Best linux laptop for a gift?
Pretty slick deal for a Linux laptop. https://computers.woot.com/offers/dell-latitude-e7450-14-intel-i5-ssd-ultrabook Dell Latitude E7450 14" Ultrabook, Intel Core i5-5300U 2.3GHz, 240GB Solid State Drive, 8GB DDR3, 802.11ac, Bluetooth, Win10Pro $369.99 Refurbished On Sun, Jan 6, 2019, 5:22 PM Joe Lowder Thanks to all who responded. > > Mike wrote: Hi Joe. can you share the > answers to your question. Thanks, Mike > > So, Mike, I've quoted three of the most recent responses > below. Earlier replies can be found in the PLUG archives: > > https://lists.phxlinux.org/lurker/splash/index.html > > I've had great success with Linux installed on several > ThinkPads (both IBM and Lenovo) for many years. A couple > of installs on Dells turned out to be problematic for me. > Mint has worked best for me. > > The reason I asked the "Linux laptop for a gift" question > was to see if the PLUG "brain trust" might have any newer > recommendations for any affordable pre-installed options. > > I gave my wife a Chromebook, but she is not satisfied > with that. > > So, I just purchased another Thinkpad 430u for $150 to set > up with Linux Mint for my wife because she is finally fed up > with Windows 10. After years of using Windows 8, she has now > been coerced into the Windows 10 nightmare and she hates it. > > I personally will not have anything to do with anything > from Micro$haft and I'm now having a problem tring to install > Linux Mint on the 430u because of the UEFI annoyance. > > Please see this link: http://upquick.com/temp/430/ > > Hope somebody can help me get past this UEFI nuisance. > > > == mich...@butash.net wrote: > I only buy dell if I expect linux to work at all any more, > even then it's hit and miss (as I stare at my xps15 in an arch > linux install cd after a week). Thinkpads tend to have their > issues it seems too, lenovo doesn't so much seem to care about > linux, and is left to hobbiests to figure out, which only goes > so far. Dell at least has folks that work on the kernel team > to get some real input I've found. Using the ones they sell with > linux obviously goes a long way toward support, like the xps's, > at least with ubuntu and such they tend to support. > > == ke...@fries-biro.com wrote: > You need to balance your risk of "working out of the box" with > "cheapest". You want it to work with Linux, out of the box, Zero > incompatabilities... simple, System76. It will come with either > PopOS, or Ubuntu, from which Mint dirives. Open the box, enjoy. > Cheapest, is a crap shoot with Linux. Many of the cheapest do funny > things with the boot sequence thanks to Windows 10. But, I have yet > to see one that can not be made to work in a long time. How much > effort are you willing to put in and what is your tolerance for > things breaking on upgrade? > > == trent.ship...@gmail.com wrote: > My parents use Macs. I would be OK if they used Chromebooks. > Never is a million years would I give them a solid Linux desktop, > let alone a potentially flaky, cheap, out of the box Linux. > Why are you in the market for a cheap out-of-the-box Mint machine? > There are some pretty decent, affordable Windows machines out there, > assuming you don't have a reflex objection to Windows or Microsoft. > A Chromebook can't be beat for cheap, functional, and out of the box, > and my understanding is that it's based on Gentoo, deep, deep under > the covers. So Chromebook is a really good choice for a cheap, > user-proof computer, unless you have a phobia of Google or Chromebook. > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
welcome to 2019
moin moin, we made it :) There's a meeting this Thursday. Anyone have a topic they want to present? I will be presenting "Software Management for Debian and Ubuntu" Stammtisch is a week from Tuesday and we will meet an hour early for a resume review night. The security meeting is a week from Thursday. ciao, der.hans -- # https://www.LuftHans.com https://www.PhxLinux.org # When I work, I work hard. When I play, I play hard. # When I sit, I sleep. - Embe Kugler --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Old Hardware
http://www.deviceside.com/fc5025.html - found this as a possible solution, if you're unable to find a USB drive or an old machine that's bootable On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 12:12 PM Michael Butash wrote: > I had an old thinkpad usb 3.5 floppy disk drive accessory I kept around to > boot cranky systems back in the day, as oddly when some wouldn't work with > certain usb cd, that floppy always worked. I'd offer it up, but I haven't > seen/used it in 10+ years, and don't even know where to start looking for > it, but I'm sure you can still find them on ebay. > > Good luck on the 5 inch, that you're just going to need an old relic > system for I think, but wouldn't surprise me to see some hackers have made > adapters to a more modern interface and power for those as well. > > -mb > > On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 9:33 AM Matthew Gibson < > guanjun.de.geliq...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> My parents have been cleaning out their home and came across some 3 1/2 >> inch floppy disks, they also found some 5 inch floppies. Does anyone have >> an appropriate drive for either of these media items? I am looking to >> borrow, but I don't imagine it will be difficult to scrounge up the funds >> to purchase a drive or two. All we are wanting us to pull what data we can >> off them. >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Old Hardware
I had an old thinkpad usb 3.5 floppy disk drive accessory I kept around to boot cranky systems back in the day, as oddly when some wouldn't work with certain usb cd, that floppy always worked. I'd offer it up, but I haven't seen/used it in 10+ years, and don't even know where to start looking for it, but I'm sure you can still find them on ebay. Good luck on the 5 inch, that you're just going to need an old relic system for I think, but wouldn't surprise me to see some hackers have made adapters to a more modern interface and power for those as well. -mb On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 9:33 AM Matthew Gibson wrote: > My parents have been cleaning out their home and came across some 3 1/2 > inch floppy disks, they also found some 5 inch floppies. Does anyone have > an appropriate drive for either of these media items? I am looking to > borrow, but I don't imagine it will be difficult to scrounge up the funds > to purchase a drive or two. All we are wanting us to pull what data we can > off them. > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: When is the next Installfest?
The next installfest is Jan 19 at UAT 48st and Southern room 206 2625 W Baseline Rd, Tempe, AZ 85283 UEFI in concept is simple. Each bios/version handles it a bit differently. We would happy to help with any install or UEFI setup and have done many of them. Todd On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 8:43 AM Joe Lowder wrote: > When is the next Installfest? > > And/or is there a computer service shop that could > provide assistance to get past the UEFI nuisance? > > Trying to install Linux Mint on a Thinkpad 430u > > Please see this link: http://upquick.com/temp/430/ > > Hope somebody can help me with this. > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Todd Cole Ubuntu Arizona Team 2928 W El Caminito Phoenix AZ 85051-3957 to...@azloco.com 602-677-9402 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Old Hardware
On 1/6/19 9:33 AM, Matthew Gibson wrote: My parents have been cleaning out their home and came across some 3 1/2 inch floppy disks, they also found some 5 inch floppies. Does anyone have an appropriate drive for either of these media items? I think I have a 3.5" floppy drive in the junk drawer. I don't know if it works; the last time I used it was over a decade ago. Many motherboards still have a floppy drive connector, but I don't know whether modern power supplies include the connector for a 3.5" drive. 5.25" drives were obsolete in the 1990s, so that may be more difficult. Also note that there are USB 3.5" floppy drives, though these only work with disks that had standard formatting (80 tracks, 2 heads, 18 sectors/track). Tom's RootBoot used 82 tracks and 21 sectors/track, but Tom's is in the dustbin of history now that everything can boot from USB. On 2019-01-06 17:39, Jim wrote: How old are these discs? If you do get data from them, I'm sure some of us would be interested in how old they are and still able to retain the data. This depends greatly on the quality of the media. Some floppies were much more robust than others. -- Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress There is no Darkness in Eternity But only Light too dim for us to see. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
When is the next Installfest?
When is the next Installfest? And/or is there a computer service shop that could provide assistance to get past the UEFI nuisance? Trying to install Linux Mint on a Thinkpad 430u Please see this link: http://upquick.com/temp/430/ Hope somebody can help me with this. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
