Re: After Linux Mint update, numerous problems ...
Thanks Steve. Really appreciate all of the things you (and others) have suggested and I may just follow your tip to "wait a couple months" because sometimes things fix themselves ;) And, I may also try some of the things that Brian suggested. I did add the browser "slimjet" and it seems to work well. Best, Joe - 2009-03 Steve Litt wrote: If I were in your situation, I'd first try Chromium instead of Chrome, and if the symptom remains, I'd just wait a couple months until Chrome/Chromium fixes itself. This stuff happens all the time with browsers: Several are always broken. What I'd avoid right now is these extreme package manager maneuvers that might bork a lot of stuff. Here are some alternatives to Chromium and Firefox: dillo edbrowse eolie epiphany falkon flinks icecat links luakit midori netsurf otter-browser qutebrowser surf vimb One other observation. Earlier in the thread you expressed concerns about speed, number of processes running, and resources in general. You seem quite proficient at Linux. Maybe it's time you move away from coddling type distros like Mint, Ubuntu, and to a lesser extent Debian. If you were to switch to the Void Linux distro (https://voidlinux.org/), there would be far fewer levels of abstraction on your machine. If you switch to Void, I think all your resource problems would go away or at least have obvious root causes. This isn't to say you wouldn't have other problems with Void. A few marginal programs aren't packaged in Void: You'd use a Mint VM to run those. And Void's not going to have the "we work with all hardware" kind of capability that Mint and Ubuntu have, but if your hardware is more than a year old, that shouldn't be a problem on any distro. I've been using Void Linux since early 2015 (switched from Debian in 2014 and Ubuntu 2008-2013) and I still love using Void. You might want to consider it. Steve Litt --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: After Linux Mint update, numerous problems ...
Thanks again Brian ... I'll recheck everything you mentioned and keep trying. -Joe 2009-03 8:40 AM Brian Cluff wrote: There is a line on the output of your command that reads: "197 additional updates are available with UA Infrastructure ESM" It appears that you are running a very old very of your OS. It's essentially saying that you need an Extended support contract in order to continue to get updates to your OS https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-14-04-esm-support I also noticed that you have "apt list --upgradable", but it's spelled "upgradeable", so that's probably why you got the list of options instead of a list of upgradeable packages. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: After Linux Mint update, numerous problems ...
On Thu, 03 Sep 2020 09:19:42 -0600 joe--- via PLUG-discuss wrote: > So I ran: sudo apt dist-upgrade again and got this result: > > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Calculating upgrade... Done > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > > 197 additional updates are available with UA Infrastructure ESM. > To see these additional updates run: apt list --upgradable > See https://ubuntu.com/advantage or run: sudo ua status > > Then I ran sudo apt list --upgradable > and got the long list of options that one sees when > running sudo apt full-upgrade > > But I don't know which of those options I should try to use > or how to use them (in what sequence). Hi Joe, If I were in your situation, I'd first try Chromium instead of Chrome, and if the symptom remains, I'd just wait a couple months until Chrome/Chromium fixes itself. This stuff happens all the time with browsers: Several are always broken. What I'd avoid right now is these extreme package manager maneuvers that might bork a lot of stuff. Here are some alternatives to Chromium and Firefox: dillo edbrowse eolie epiphany falkon flinks icecat links luakit midori netsurf otter-browser qutebrowser surf vimb One other observation. Earlier in the thread you expressed concerns about speed, number of processes running, and resources in general. You seem quite proficient at Linux. Maybe it's time you move away from coddling type distros like Mint, Ubuntu, and to a lesser extent Debian. If you were to switch to the Void Linux distro (https://voidlinux.org/), there would be far fewer levels of abstraction on your machine. If you switch to Void, I think all your resource problems would go away or at least have obvious root causes. This isn't to say you wouldn't have other problems with Void. A few marginal programs aren't packaged in Void: You'd use a Mint VM to run those. And Void's not going to have the "we work with all hardware" kind of capability that Mint and Ubuntu have, but if your hardware is more than a year old, that shouldn't be a problem on any distro. I've been using Void Linux since early 2015 (switched from Debian in 2014 and Ubuntu 2008-2013) and I still love using Void. You might want to consider it. SteveT Steve Litt Autumn 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: After Linux Mint update, numerous problems ...
There is a line on the output of your command that reads: "197 additional updates are available with UA Infrastructure ESM" It appears that you are running a very old very of your OS. It's essentially saying that you need an Extended support contract in order to continue to get updates to your OS https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-14-04-esm-support I also noticed that you have "apt list --upgradable", but it's spelled "upgradeable", so that's probably why you got the list of options instead of a list of upgradeable packages. Brian Cluff On 9/3/20 8:19 AM, joe--- via PLUG-discuss wrote: So I ran: sudo apt dist-upgrade again and got this result: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 197 additional updates are available with UA Infrastructure ESM. To see these additional updates run: apt list --upgradable See https://ubuntu.com/advantage or run: sudo ua status Then I ran sudo apt list --upgradable and got the long list of options that one sees when running sudo apt full-upgrade But I don't know which of those options I should try to use or how to use them (in what sequence). --- I did the apt dist-upgrade and got these error messages: Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.4.0-148-generic (x86_64) Error! Module version 4.3.40_Ubuntu for vboxguest.ko Error! Module version 4.3.40_Ubuntu for vboxsf.ko Error! Module version 4.3.40_Ubuntu for vboxvideo.ko Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.4.0-148-generic (x86_64) I captured and could post the entire process, but noticed these errors as the process scrolled by. And, after running all this, chrome still opens to a blank or black screen but with the title bar showing the page to which it opened. Everything was working fine before I did the first regular update/upgrade yesterday. Bummer. --- 2009-02 Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss wrote: apt upgrade only does a partial upgrade on your system and if that's all you do, your system can get into a place where dependencies get out of wack and the system breaks. instead do: apt full-upgrade or apt dist-upgrade --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: After Linux Mint update, numerous problems ...
Thanks for the link, Stephen ... I read the whole article and comments, but it is talking about chromium on windows, not chrome on linux, and I did not see any recommended action or solution in that article. --- 2009-03 6:31 AM, Stephen Partington wrote: It appears chromium knows about this? https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=340138 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: After Linux Mint update, numerous problems ...
So I ran: sudo apt dist-upgrade again and got this result: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 197 additional updates are available with UA Infrastructure ESM. To see these additional updates run: apt list --upgradable See https://ubuntu.com/advantage or run: sudo ua status Then I ran sudo apt list --upgradable and got the long list of options that one sees when running sudo apt full-upgrade But I don't know which of those options I should try to use or how to use them (in what sequence). --- I did the apt dist-upgrade and got these error messages: Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.4.0-148-generic (x86_64) Error! Module version 4.3.40_Ubuntu for vboxguest.ko Error! Module version 4.3.40_Ubuntu for vboxsf.ko Error! Module version 4.3.40_Ubuntu for vboxvideo.ko Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.4.0-148-generic (x86_64) I captured and could post the entire process, but noticed these errors as the process scrolled by. And, after running all this, chrome still opens to a blank or black screen but with the title bar showing the page to which it opened. Everything was working fine before I did the first regular update/upgrade yesterday. Bummer. --- 2009-02 Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss wrote: apt upgrade only does a partial upgrade on your system and if that's all you do, your system can get into a place where dependencies get out of wack and the system breaks. instead do: apt full-upgrade or apt dist-upgrade --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: After Linux Mint update, numerous problems ...
Brian ... When I tried to do sudo apt full-upgrade, I got this result: t420: sudo apt full-upgrade [sudo] password for joe: apt Usage: apt command [options] apt help command [options] Commands: autoclean - Erase old downloaded archive files autoremove - Remove automatically all unused packages build - Build binary or source packages from sources build-dep - Configure build-dependencies for source packages changelog - View a package's changelog check - Verify that there are no broken dependencies clean - Erase downloaded archive files contains- List packages containing a file content - List files contained in a package deb - Install a .deb package depends - Show raw dependency information for a package dist-upgrade- Perform an upgrade, possibly installing and removing packages download- Download the .deb file for a package dselect-upgrade - Follow dselect selections held- List all held packages help- Show help for a command hold- Hold a package install - Install/upgrade packages policy - Show policy settings purge - Remove packages and their configuration files recommends - List missing recommended packages for a particular package rdepends- Show reverse dependency information for a package reinstall - Download and (possibly) reinstall a currently installed package remove - Remove packages search - Search for a package by name and/or expression show- Display detailed information about a package source - Download source archives sources - Edit /etc/apt/sources.list with nano unhold - Unhold a package update - Download lists of new/upgradable packages upgrade - Perform a safe upgrade version - Show the installed version of a package This apt has Super Cow Powers So I tried this: sudo apt dist-upgrade And it ran for a long time and showed a lot of action, but afterword, chrome still has the same problem. -- 2009-02 at 6:23 PM, Brian Cluff wrote: apt upgrade only does a partial upgrade on your system and if that's all you do, your system can get into a place where dependencies get out of wack and the system breaks. instead do: apt full-upgrade or apt dist-upgrade They both do the exact same exact thing, except full upgrade is the new name for dist upgrade option becuase too many people only did upgrade because they were afraid that dist-upgrade would actually upgrade their distribution to the new version... it doesn't. It just tells your system to upgrade all the packages, where plain old upgrade tells the system to only upgrade packages that don't require any additional packages to installed or uninstalled which can leave security problems on your system if the update requires additional packages to be installed. If you've been doing only upgrade for a really long time; be prepared for some broken dependencies that wouldn't have happened if you had done dist-upgrades instead Hopefully apt's dependency calculator will just take care of it for you and all will be good with the world again. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: After Linux Mint update, numerous problems ...
It appears chromium knows about this? https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=340138 On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, 7:51 PM joe--- via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > Thanks Brian (and everyone) ... > > I did the apt dist-upgrade and got these error messages: > > Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.4.0-148-generic > (x86_64) > Error! Module version 4.3.40_Ubuntu for vboxguest.ko > Error! Module version 4.3.40_Ubuntu for vboxsf.ko > Error! Module version 4.3.40_Ubuntu for vboxvideo.ko > Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.4.0-148-generic > (x86_64) > > I captured and could post the entire process, > but noticed these errors as the process scrolled by. > > And, after running all this, chrome still opens to > a blank or black screen but with the title bar showing > the page to which it opened. > > Everything was working fine before I did the first > regular update/upgrade yesterday. Bummer. > > > --- > 2009-02 Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > apt upgrade only does a partial upgrade on your system and if that's > > all you do, your system can get into a place where dependencies get > > out of wack and the system breaks. > > > > instead do: > > apt full-upgrade > > or > > apt dist-upgrade > > They both do the exact same exact thing, except full upgrade is the > > new name for dist upgrade option becuase too many people only did > > upgrade because they were afraid that dist-upgrade would actually > > upgrade their distribution to the new version... it doesn't. It just > > tells your system to upgrade all the packages, where plain old upgrade > > tells the system to only upgrade packages that don't require any > > additional packages to installed or uninstalled which can leave > > security problems on your system if the update requires additional > > packages to be installed. > > > > If you've been doing only upgrade for a really long time; be prepared > > for some broken dependencies that wouldn't have happened if you had > > done dist-upgrades instead Hopefully apt's dependency calculator > > will just take care of it for you and all will be good with the world > > again. > > > > Brian Cluff > > > > On 9/2/20 3:04 PM, joe--- via PLUG-discuss wrote: > >> Thanks to Matthew and Michael Butash for suggestions. > >> > >> I did a new system update: > >> > >> sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y > >> > >> And I have tried removing and reinstalling chrome, > >> but it still won't work. > >> > >> Everything else seems to be working okay now. > >> > >> Not sure how to do the "journalctl" thing. > >> > >> Firefox works fine, but I still hope to get chrome working. > >> > >> Any other suggestions? > >> > >> > >> -- > >> 2009-01 Michael Butash wrote (in part): > >>> I've had ibus break, which tends to break everything. > >>> > >>> Would be worth using journalctl -f as root while launching > >>> to see what the system is complaining about > > >>> > >>> Have you tried a clean user profile? Ibus tends to be > >>> user dependent ... to test just to log in as another user > >> > >> > >>> Aug 31, 2020 joe wrote: > After a Linux Mint update today, I seem to have numerous > problems that I did not have before the update. > > ** Chrome browser won't open at all. > >> > >> --- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > --- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
