Re: blew system to bits

2021-08-24 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
no... not friday but rather Monday.

On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 12:54 AM Michael  wrote:

> boy I wou'd be really screwed if I lost my data. Luckily I backed up my
> most important data friday night.
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 10:21 PM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> As much as you randomly blow up your system Mike, you should embrace a
>> separate nas (network attached storage) solution.  If you want something
>> simple, get a qnap or synology nas device, at least a 2 disk system, and
>> use something like unison/rsync to replicate important data over cifs/nfs.
>> You can buy cheaper nas systems on ebay, usually random chinese hardware
>> suited to running freenas or like, but however you do it, have a copy of
>> your data when experimenting and deleting anything.
>>
>> If I wiped out my home directory without a backup, I'd lose 20+ years of
>> 100+ different companies I've worked at since late 90's (ie. my
>> livelihood), not to mention almost 30 years of personal data, and just not
>> an option.  I replicate my data hourly between 2 laptops, 1 desktop, and 2
>> synology nas systems that real-time replicate data directly.  If I did
>> screw up that bad, I'd just kill replication and move a copy of the data
>> back from my nas.
>>
>> Last time I did something like that almost 20yr ago, I was moving files
>> around, I accidentally started moving all files from /sbin into another
>> directory, fubar'd the system (at the time, a monitoring server that I ran
>> Cox Business Services off of), but learned real quick the importance of
>> thinking before doing.  Slow.  It.  Down.  Think about what you're doing
>> before hitting that enter button.  It's much the same when I'm doing
>> network deployments to enterprise devices, or just mucking around with my
>> workstation.  Don't be that guy if you're ever in a position to admin
>> business systems.
>>
>> -mb
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 2:12 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> OOPS. I hit return after typin rm -rf it deleted everything in /home. So
>>> I restored my system and now this happens:
>>> bmike1@bmike1-desktop:~$ sudo apt install gparted
>>> [sudo] password for bmike1:
>>> Reading package lists... Done
>>> Building dependency tree
>>> Reading state information... Done
>>> The following additional packages will be installed:
>>>   gparted-common
>>> Suggested packages:
>>>   gpart reiser4progs udftools
>>> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock. It is held by
>>> process 84872 (synaptic)
>>> N: Be aware that removing the lock file is not a solution and may break
>>> your system.
>>> E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/
>>> bmike1@bmike1-desktop:~$
>>>
>>>
>>> it happened before and as a solution killed the roces. It happened again
>>> so I must find a solution. WIll someone share their wisdom?
>>>
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Re: blew system to bits

2021-08-24 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
boy I wou'd be really screwed if I lost my data. Luckily I backed up my
most important data friday night.

On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 10:21 PM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> As much as you randomly blow up your system Mike, you should embrace a
> separate nas (network attached storage) solution.  If you want something
> simple, get a qnap or synology nas device, at least a 2 disk system, and
> use something like unison/rsync to replicate important data over cifs/nfs.
> You can buy cheaper nas systems on ebay, usually random chinese hardware
> suited to running freenas or like, but however you do it, have a copy of
> your data when experimenting and deleting anything.
>
> If I wiped out my home directory without a backup, I'd lose 20+ years of
> 100+ different companies I've worked at since late 90's (ie. my
> livelihood), not to mention almost 30 years of personal data, and just not
> an option.  I replicate my data hourly between 2 laptops, 1 desktop, and 2
> synology nas systems that real-time replicate data directly.  If I did
> screw up that bad, I'd just kill replication and move a copy of the data
> back from my nas.
>
> Last time I did something like that almost 20yr ago, I was moving files
> around, I accidentally started moving all files from /sbin into another
> directory, fubar'd the system (at the time, a monitoring server that I ran
> Cox Business Services off of), but learned real quick the importance of
> thinking before doing.  Slow.  It.  Down.  Think about what you're doing
> before hitting that enter button.  It's much the same when I'm doing
> network deployments to enterprise devices, or just mucking around with my
> workstation.  Don't be that guy if you're ever in a position to admin
> business systems.
>
> -mb
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 2:12 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> OOPS. I hit return after typin rm -rf it deleted everything in /home. So
>> I restored my system and now this happens:
>> bmike1@bmike1-desktop:~$ sudo apt install gparted
>> [sudo] password for bmike1:
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> The following additional packages will be installed:
>>   gparted-common
>> Suggested packages:
>>   gpart reiser4progs udftools
>> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock. It is held by process
>> 84872 (synaptic)
>> N: Be aware that removing the lock file is not a solution and may break
>> your system.
>> E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/
>> bmike1@bmike1-desktop:~$
>>
>>
>> it happened before and as a solution killed the roces. It happened again
>> so I must find a solution. WIll someone share their wisdom?
>>
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Re: blew system to bits

2021-08-24 Thread Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss
As much as you randomly blow up your system Mike, you should embrace a
separate nas (network attached storage) solution.  If you want something
simple, get a qnap or synology nas device, at least a 2 disk system, and
use something like unison/rsync to replicate important data over cifs/nfs.
You can buy cheaper nas systems on ebay, usually random chinese hardware
suited to running freenas or like, but however you do it, have a copy of
your data when experimenting and deleting anything.

If I wiped out my home directory without a backup, I'd lose 20+ years of
100+ different companies I've worked at since late 90's (ie. my
livelihood), not to mention almost 30 years of personal data, and just not
an option.  I replicate my data hourly between 2 laptops, 1 desktop, and 2
synology nas systems that real-time replicate data directly.  If I did
screw up that bad, I'd just kill replication and move a copy of the data
back from my nas.

Last time I did something like that almost 20yr ago, I was moving files
around, I accidentally started moving all files from /sbin into another
directory, fubar'd the system (at the time, a monitoring server that I ran
Cox Business Services off of), but learned real quick the importance of
thinking before doing.  Slow.  It.  Down.  Think about what you're doing
before hitting that enter button.  It's much the same when I'm doing
network deployments to enterprise devices, or just mucking around with my
workstation.  Don't be that guy if you're ever in a position to admin
business systems.

-mb


On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 2:12 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> OOPS. I hit return after typin rm -rf it deleted everything in /home. So I
> restored my system and now this happens:
> bmike1@bmike1-desktop:~$ sudo apt install gparted
> [sudo] password for bmike1:
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> The following additional packages will be installed:
>   gparted-common
> Suggested packages:
>   gpart reiser4progs udftools
> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock. It is held by process
> 84872 (synaptic)
> N: Be aware that removing the lock file is not a solution and may break
> your system.
> E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/
> bmike1@bmike1-desktop:~$
>
>
> it happened before and as a solution killed the roces. It happened again
> so I must find a solution. WIll someone share their wisdom?
>
> --
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Re: blew system to bits

2021-08-24 Thread Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss
in this case, i would make sure nothing is running that would touch apt or
synaptic and then just do an ls -lFas /var/cache/apt/archives/lock

I have had lock files stick around after a dead process etc. you should be
able to cat the file and see what pid its related to. if that pid is gone
you can safely delete the fille.


On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 2:12 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> OOPS. I hit return after typin rm -rf it deleted everything in /home. So I
> restored my system and now this happens:
> bmike1@bmike1-desktop:~$ sudo apt install gparted
> [sudo] password for bmike1:
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> The following additional packages will be installed:
>   gparted-common
> Suggested packages:
>   gpart reiser4progs udftools
> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock. It is held by process
> 84872 (synaptic)
> N: Be aware that removing the lock file is not a solution and may break
> your system.
> E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/
> bmike1@bmike1-desktop:~$
>
>
> it happened before and as a solution killed the roces. It happened again
> so I must find a solution. WIll someone share their wisdom?
>
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Re: blew system to bits

2021-08-24 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss


Don't feel bad Mike, I removed the home directory once, also...


On 2021-08-24 14:12, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:

OOPS. I hit return after typin rm -rf it deleted everything in /home.
So I restored my system and now this happens:
bmike1@bmike1-desktop:~$ sudo apt install gparted
[sudo] password for bmike1:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  gparted-common
Suggested packages:
  gpart reiser4progs udftools
E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock. It is held by
process 84872 (synaptic)
N: Be aware that removing the lock file is not a solution and may
break your system.
E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/
bmike1@bmike1-desktop:~$

it happened before and as a solution killed the roces. It happened
again so I must find a solution. WIll someone share their wisdom?

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blew system to bits

2021-08-24 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
OOPS. I hit return after typin rm -rf it deleted everything in /home. So I
restored my system and now this happens:
bmike1@bmike1-desktop:~$ sudo apt install gparted
[sudo] password for bmike1:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  gparted-common
Suggested packages:
  gpart reiser4progs udftools
E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock. It is held by process
84872 (synaptic)
N: Be aware that removing the lock file is not a solution and may break
your system.
E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/
bmike1@bmike1-desktop:~$


it happened before and as a solution killed the roces. It happened again so
I must find a solution. WIll someone share their wisdom?

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