Re: portable ssd

2022-09-04 Thread Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss
On Sun, 2022-09-04 at 01:17 -0700, Phil Waclawski via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> The one advantage of an SSD vs a spinning USB Hard drive is that you can
> bump an SSD drive without worrying about the drive crashing, regardless of
> speed.
> Drawback is you usually want to keep it at most about 70% full so it can do
> proper wear levelling

And of course the big kahuna drawback is the price per gigabyte is 5x the price 
per
gigabyte of good quality spinning rust. This is no big deal when you need only a
half a terabyte, but when you need 10 TB SSD would cost you an extra $500:

https://www.newegg.com/black-wd101fzbx-10tb/p/N82E16822234427

https://www.newegg.com/kingston-a400-960gb/p/0D9-001B-00164

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Re: video editors

2022-09-04 Thread Mark Phillips via PLUG-discuss
Try flowblade. A small learning curve, but it works.

Mark

On Sat, Sep 3, 2022, 11:15 PM Joe Neglia via PLUG-discuss <
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> I'll vouch for that.  Years ago KDEnlive was crashing on me every few
> minutes.  Tried it again a few months ago and it was solid.
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 6:25 PM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> If it's been a while since you tried it, it might be worth a look again,
>> not that it'll beat Davinci Resolve in features (which I assume you
>> meant by Black magic design).  The kdenlive team did a massive rewrite a
>> couple of years ago and it was relatively unstable for a bit... but its
>> had a couple of years to mature to its new form and it's quite good and
>> stable now, again.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> On 9/3/22 10:47, Aaron Jones via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>> > KDenlive crashed on me over and over. It made it impossible for me to
>> edit anything over 5 minutes. I bought a license for black magic design and
>> that has solved all my issues. I love it. It’s worth the $180 or whatever.
>> >
>> >> On Sep 3, 2022, at 6:46 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> 
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> This is probably off topic since it has to do with video editors.  I
>> understand kdenlive - https://kdenlive.org/en/ - is probably the best
>> Linux free video editor.
>> >>
>> >> The need is for editing simple YouTube videos.  I think one only needs
>> to know how to do a hand-full of tasks.  This is not for Hollywood level
>> video editing.
>> >>
>> >> Your thoughts?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks!!
>> >>
>> >> Keith
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Re: portable ssd

2022-09-04 Thread T Zack Crawford via PLUG-discuss
I think USB 3 --> SATA is much slower than connecting directly to the 
motherboard, but an SSD connected this way is still faster than a 7200rpm HDD. 
I would buy any internal (e.g. TeamGroup) 2.5" SSD and connect it sata to USB 
and then you basically have a regular flash drive but much bigger. Format NTFS 
for regular windows flash drive or ext4 if you're just using on Linux 路‍♂️. I 
have found if you don't properly unmount NTFS, that tends to corrupt things 
worse than others

Sep 4, 2022 06:40:17 Michael via PLUG-discuss :

> I think another advantage is that there are no mechanical parts to wear out.
> 
> On Sun, Sep 4, 2022 at 4:18 AM Phil Waclawski via PLUG-discuss 
>  wrote:
>> The one advantage of an SSD vs a spinning USB Hard drive is that you can 
>> bump an SSD drive without worrying about the drive crashing, regardless of 
>> speed.
>> Drawback is you usually want to keep it at most about 70% full so it can do 
>> proper wear levelling
>> Phil W
>> 
>> On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 11:43 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss 
>>  wrote:
>>> I’m not considering usb2/3/4. I’m thinking about when I upgrade my 
>>> computer. Right now I’m usb2. I know it will be slow that it might as well 
>>> be a spinner.    
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Sep 4, 2022 at 2:18 AM Joe Neglia via PLUG-discuss 
>>>  wrote:
 Especially if the controller supports UASP.  *aboutHuge* speed increase.
 
 
 On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 11:15 PM Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss 
  wrote:
> On Sat, 2022-09-03 at 19:11 -0700, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>> If I recall correctly what was said is USB will create a bottleneck so
>> an SSD drive is of no benefit.  That is why the spinner was recommended.
> 
> I think I was the one who said that, but it was in regard to USB2. I 
> think USB3 is
> fast enough to gain benefit from an SSD.
> 
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Re: portable ssd

2022-09-04 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
I think another advantage is that there are no mechanical parts to wear out.

On Sun, Sep 4, 2022 at 4:18 AM Phil Waclawski via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> The one advantage of an SSD vs a spinning USB Hard drive is that you can
> bump an SSD drive without worrying about the drive crashing, regardless of
> speed.
> Drawback is you usually want to keep it at most about 70% full so it can
> do proper wear levelling
> Phil W
>
> On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 11:43 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> I’m not considering usb2/3/4. I’m thinking about when I upgrade my
>> computer. Right now I’m usb2. I know it will be slow that it might as well
>> be a spinner.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 4, 2022 at 2:18 AM Joe Neglia via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Especially if the controller supports UASP.  *aboutHuge* speed increase.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 11:15 PM Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss <
>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>
 On Sat, 2022-09-03 at 19:11 -0700, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
 > If I recall correctly what was said is USB will create a bottleneck
 so
 > an SSD drive is of no benefit.  That is why the spinner was
 recommended.

 I think I was the one who said that, but it was in regard to USB2. I
 think USB3 is
 fast enough to gain benefit from an SSD.

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Re: portable ssd

2022-09-04 Thread Phil Waclawski via PLUG-discuss
The one advantage of an SSD vs a spinning USB Hard drive is that you can
bump an SSD drive without worrying about the drive crashing, regardless of
speed.
Drawback is you usually want to keep it at most about 70% full so it can do
proper wear levelling
Phil W

On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 11:43 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> I’m not considering usb2/3/4. I’m thinking about when I upgrade my
> computer. Right now I’m usb2. I know it will be slow that it might as well
> be a spinner.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 4, 2022 at 2:18 AM Joe Neglia via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> Especially if the controller supports UASP.  *aboutHuge* speed increase.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 11:15 PM Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 2022-09-03 at 19:11 -0700, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>> > If I recall correctly what was said is USB will create a bottleneck so
>>> > an SSD drive is of no benefit.  That is why the spinner was
>>> recommended.
>>>
>>> I think I was the one who said that, but it was in regard to USB2. I
>>> think USB3 is
>>> fast enough to gain benefit from an SSD.
>>>
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Re: portable ssd

2022-09-04 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
I’m not considering usb2/3/4. I’m thinking about when I upgrade my
computer. Right now I’m usb2. I know it will be slow that it might as well
be a spinner.



On Sun, Sep 4, 2022 at 2:18 AM Joe Neglia via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> Especially if the controller supports UASP.  *aboutHuge* speed increase.
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 11:15 PM Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 2022-09-03 at 19:11 -0700, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>> > If I recall correctly what was said is USB will create a bottleneck so
>> > an SSD drive is of no benefit.  That is why the spinner was recommended.
>>
>> I think I was the one who said that, but it was in regard to USB2. I
>> think USB3 is
>> fast enough to gain benefit from an SSD.
>>
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Re: portable ssd

2022-09-04 Thread Joe Neglia via PLUG-discuss
Especially if the controller supports UASP.  *Huge* speed increase.


On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 11:15 PM Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> On Sat, 2022-09-03 at 19:11 -0700, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> > If I recall correctly what was said is USB will create a bottleneck so
> > an SSD drive is of no benefit.  That is why the spinner was recommended.
>
> I think I was the one who said that, but it was in regard to USB2. I think
> USB3 is
> fast enough to gain benefit from an SSD.
>
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Re: video editors

2022-09-04 Thread Joe Neglia via PLUG-discuss
I'll vouch for that.  Years ago KDEnlive was crashing on me every few
minutes.  Tried it again a few months ago and it was solid.


On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 6:25 PM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> If it's been a while since you tried it, it might be worth a look again,
> not that it'll beat Davinci Resolve in features (which I assume you
> meant by Black magic design).  The kdenlive team did a massive rewrite a
> couple of years ago and it was relatively unstable for a bit... but its
> had a couple of years to mature to its new form and it's quite good and
> stable now, again.
>
> Brian
>
> On 9/3/22 10:47, Aaron Jones via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> > KDenlive crashed on me over and over. It made it impossible for me to
> edit anything over 5 minutes. I bought a license for black magic design and
> that has solved all my issues. I love it. It’s worth the $180 or whatever.
> >
> >> On Sep 3, 2022, at 6:46 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> This is probably off topic since it has to do with video editors.  I
> understand kdenlive - https://kdenlive.org/en/ - is probably the best
> Linux free video editor.
> >>
> >> The need is for editing simple YouTube videos.  I think one only needs
> to know how to do a hand-full of tasks.  This is not for Hollywood level
> video editing.
> >>
> >> Your thoughts?
> >>
> >> Thanks!!
> >>
> >> Keith
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Re: portable ssd

2022-09-04 Thread Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss
On Sat, 2022-09-03 at 19:11 -0700, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> If I recall correctly what was said is USB will create a bottleneck so 
> an SSD drive is of no benefit.  That is why the spinner was recommended.

I think I was the one who said that, but it was in regard to USB2. I think USB3 
is
fast enough to gain benefit from an SSD.

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Re: portable ssd

2022-09-04 Thread Phil Waclawski via PLUG-discuss
It was the default windows file system that came with it, as I have to deal
with MS Windows computers at work, I don't format them ext4. But this is
the first time I've had an issue.
Phil W

On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 11:13 PM Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss <
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> On Sat, 2022-09-03 at 17:03 -0700, Phil Waclawski via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> > I had one of the Western Digital ones go bad as soon as I tried a large
> > rsync with it. which is odd, as I prefer WD for the HD version. The
> sandisk
> > ones seem to work well.
>
> Was the filesystem Ext4? I've had a lot of trouble with windows formatted
> thumb
> drives, and I wouldn't doubt that would carry over to SSD.
>
> SteveT
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Re: portable ssd

2022-09-04 Thread Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss
On Sat, 2022-09-03 at 17:03 -0700, Phil Waclawski via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> I had one of the Western Digital ones go bad as soon as I tried a large
> rsync with it. which is odd, as I prefer WD for the HD version. The sandisk
> ones seem to work well.

Was the filesystem Ext4? I've had a lot of trouble with windows formatted thumb
drives, and I wouldn't doubt that would carry over to SSD.

SteveT



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