Linux Campfire Tales at GoLUG, 4/3/2024
Hi all, GoLUG meeting where anyone who wants to can share their Linux or BSD story. == What: Online: Linux Campfire Tales Who: Anyone wanting to tell a Linux story When: Wednesday 4/3/2024 at 7PM Eastern Daylight Time Where: Jitsi online presentation, https://meet.jit.si/golug [1] == Everybody has a Linux or BSD story they'd like to tell. Now's your chance. It can be from 1992 or from yesterday, or anywhere in between, your choice. Has Linux ever saved your bacon? Slapped you in the face? How did you transition into Linux? These stories can be first person or third person or just something you heard about. I imagine more than one of us will relay our experience with the recent xz Utils backdoor: I know that mess made my heart skip a few beats before realizing my distro wasn't affected. Hope to see you all there. SteveT [1] Online via Jitsi: https://meet.jit.si/golug Mobile app: https://jitsi.org/downloads/ Desktop app: https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet-electron/releases -- Steve Litt GoLUG Publicity Coordinator Originally founded in Orlando, Florida, United States, GoLUG now welcomes an international audience for online presentations and discussions on Linux and adjacent technologies. http://golug.org --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: security: check xc-utils versions
der.hans via PLUG-discuss said on Sun, 31 Mar 2024 07:19:43 + (UTC) >Am 30. Mar, 2024 schwätzte Matthew Crews via PLUG-discuss so: > >> This, ladies and gentlemen, is what a Supply Chain Attack looks like. >> >> While I'm not sure that this specific vulnerability led to much harm >> (who knows yet?), we're going to be feeling the after-shocks in the >> open source and security industries for a long time. >> >> Among the many questions that need to be asked: >> >> 1. How can we trust source tarballs / archive files to be 100% >> correct versus source code? > >Reproducible builds help with that. > >> 2. Without looking at the source code line-by-line, how do we detect >> supply chain attacks before they are propagated to end users? > >Maybe peer review and audits as the code goes in. That'll take a lot of >effort, especially for small projects. > >> 3. How do we properly vet source code contributors to make sure they >> aren't going to perform supply chain attacks? > >It's going to be a rough Summer for some of us. A couple Niklaus Wirth quotes from https://www.bostonglobe.com/2024/02/28/metro/niklaus-wirth-software-developer-who-saw-power-simplicity-dies-89/ : “The art in engineering is not so much to make something very complicated, The art is to make a complicated problem simpler.” “When you develop a program, it’s much harder to devise a simple solution than complicated ones. Unfortunately, our computers are terribly uncritical. They swallow anything.” Yes, it's easier to incorporate yet another library that's really a tree of dependencies, and the computer will swallow it. For the last several years, the problems caused by the complexification caused by willy-nilly use of Other People's Code (OPC) is on full display. We can audit. We can peer-review. We can crack the whip on source code providers, but as long as we increasingly complexificate our software with ever more layers of abstraction, auditing, peer-review and cracking the whip are just kicking the can down the road. KISS! SteveT Note: I'm copying the Devuan project mailing list on this post. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Wayland on Kubuntu 22.04
The website I checked out to compare the cards showed the age of the cards. The 710 was first sold in 2015 and 2017 for the 580. I can't see myself spending several hundred for the latest and greatest. On 4/2/24 09:53, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: the 710 is almost a decade old even though it is being sold. the 580 is still several core architectures behind. On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 8:23 AM Jim via PLUG-discuss wrote: I looked up the two cards you mentioned and they perform pretty much the same, but they appear to blow the GT710 out of the water if this is to be believed. I think I'll give up on getting nvenc to work on the gt 710. I imagine the rx580 will do much better. https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GeForce-GT-710-vs-AMD-RX-580/m77649vs3923 On 3/28/24 14:05, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: The closest modern card are going to be the RX 580's or 5500xt Thise are in the 50-100 price range that the 710 is. On Thu, Mar 28, 2024, 4:58 PM Jim via PLUG-discuss wrote: The card I have now is a GeForce GT 710. What Radeon card would be equivalent to that? I don't want to buy something that turns out to be slower. On 3/26/24 10:04, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: Also amd flagship cards are getting tremendous performance gains under vulkan. On Tue, Mar 26, 2024, 8:52 AM Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote: Jim via PLUG-discuss said on Sun, 24 Mar 2024 12:58:34 -0700 >I have an Nvidia card. The computer has an Intel gpu. I would think >that Nvidia support should come along sooner or later. I doubt it. They won't reveal the interface without an NDA that Free Software developers can't sign. >There are a lot >of Nvidia users out there. Nvidia doesn't care. They're in the top 6 worldwide richest corporations because of their leadership in AI chips, so they don't care about a few Linux people stuck with Nvidia hardware. If you can, I'd advise you to do what I did and switch from Nvidia to Radeon the minute your machine exhibits the slightest flakiness or video artifacts. SteveT Steve Litt Autumn 2023 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Wayland on Kubuntu 22.04
the 710 is almost a decade old even though it is being sold. the 580 is still several core architectures behind. On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 8:23 AM Jim via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > I looked up the two cards you mentioned and they perform pretty much the > same, but they appear to blow the GT710 out of the water if this is to be > believed. I think I'll give up on getting nvenc to work on the gt 710. I > imagine the rx580 will do much better. > > > https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GeForce-GT-710-vs-AMD-RX-580/m77649vs3923 > On 3/28/24 14:05, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > The closest modern card are going to be the RX 580's or 5500xt > > Thise are in the 50-100 price range that the 710 is. > > On Thu, Mar 28, 2024, 4:58 PM Jim via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > >> The card I have now is a GeForce GT 710. What Radeon card would be >> equivalent to that? I don't want to buy something that turns out to be >> slower. >> On 3/26/24 10:04, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> >> Also amd flagship cards are getting tremendous performance gains under >> vulkan. >> >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2024, 8:52 AM Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss < >> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >> >>> Jim via PLUG-discuss said on Sun, 24 Mar 2024 12:58:34 -0700 >>> >>> >I have an Nvidia card. The computer has an Intel gpu. I would think >>> >that Nvidia support should come along sooner or later. >>> >>> I doubt it. They won't reveal the interface without an NDA that Free >>> Software developers can't sign. >>> >>> >There are a lot >>> >of Nvidia users out there. >>> >>> Nvidia doesn't care. They're in the top 6 worldwide richest >>> corporations because of their leadership in AI chips, so they don't >>> care about a few Linux people stuck with Nvidia hardware. >>> >>> If you can, I'd advise you to do what I did and switch from Nvidia to >>> Radeon the minute your machine exhibits the slightest flakiness or >>> video artifacts. >>> >>> SteveT >>> >>> Steve Litt >>> >>> Autumn 2023 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century >>> http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21 >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail >> settings:https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail > settings:https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
