Re: Happy New Year

[Bob Elzer]

Happy New Year!!

One more year left before my Y2K patch stops working.


On Mon, Dec 31, 2018, 12:45 AM der.hans  moin moin,
>
> not quite there yet, but I hope everyone has a happy and safe transition
> to the new year.
>
> As always, we will start the year off with mailman day :).
>
> Looking forward to seeing everyone on the 10th for our next east side
> meeting.
>
> There will be a job networking event before Stammtisch starting at 18:00
> on the 15th.
>
> The security meeting will return on the 17th.
>
> ciao,
>
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Re: CentOS 6/7

[Bob Elzer]

It's called progress.

but I agree it was a shock that first time booting. To me the biggest
change was going to systemd, but I actually like it better and it boots a
whole lot faster.

as for the network device names, I believe the names correspond to where
the device is on the motherboard, it really makes it hard to preconfigure
it when you don't know what it's going to be called that first time.

The one thing that annoys me is they changed the order of the new service
command it was
service name  command ie service httpd restart

now it's. systemctl restart httpd

I don't know why they flipped the order.


On Tue, Dec 4, 2018, 12:40 PM Snyder, Alexander J  Why did things have to change so dramatically between CentOS 6 and 7?
>
> Does anyone know why networking devices aren't eth0/1/2/3 but are now
> ens0f0/enp0d0.
>
> Also getting into single user mode now is (IMHO) unnecessarily complicated
> (typing 'single' versus now 'init=/sysroot/bin/bash').
>
> Im not sure what to even Google to get the explanation im seeking, so I
> thought I'd ask the brain trust!
>
> Thanks,
> Alexander.
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Re: portable streaming media hardware question

[Bob Elzer]

why not just load it all on to your ipad?

at the end of the day you're going to want a bigger screen to view all the
material and if you keep accessing it through different devices there won't
be any way to know where you left off when you switch to another device.

tiny screens aren't really conducive to reading documents


On Fri, Nov 16, 2018, 2:04 PM David Schwartz  I recently purchased a course online, and I need to go through all of the
> materials. It’s hosted online, but is also available for download.
>
> So I just downloaded a bunch of files. They’re a combination of audio
> (MP3), video (MP4), some PDF files, and slides (PPT/PPTX).
>
> The total size exceeds my monthly data plan, and I don’t like having to
> stop and restart long videos when I have to take a break for some reason,
> because they invariably lose track of where they are and end up having to
> restart from the beginning.
>
> I’d like to be able to load them onto a small pocket-sized device that
> runs as a simple media server so I can access them from whatever device I
> have handy, without having to worry about uploading them to each device.
> There are some WiFi thumb drives, but their batteries don’t last very long,
> and I’d like to be able to put stuff on MicroSD cards that I can swap in
> and out rather than doing the whole backup/restore thing to swap files.
>
> There’s a ton of software available to run, but what hardware options are
> there?
>
> Think something like a phone or tablet with a MicroSD slot, that lets me
> run some server software and act like a media server that I could connect
> to from my phone or iPad or other mobile devices. It should have enough
> battery to run for 6 hours or so without a recharge.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> -David Schwartz
>
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Re: rsync problem

[Bob Elzer]

what about running the rsync command from root?

if you know the root password, you can sudo to root and run the rsync
command and it should be able to accomplish any reads and writes


On Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 3:01 PM Matt Graham  wrote:

> >>>> /dev/sdc1 on /media/bmike1/Seagate Expansion Drive1 type fuseblk
> >>>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ ls -l /media/bmike1
> >>>> drwxr-xr-x 3 root   root   4096 Sep 25 19:16 Seagate Expansion
> >>>> Drive
> >>>> drwxrwxrwx 1 bmike1 bmike1 4096 Sep 25 19:57 Seagate Expansion
> >>>> Drive1
> >>> Have a good look at the ls -l output and the output from mount.
> >>> This
> >>> is a problem people run into with automounters and sometimes
> >>> mounting by
> >>> device identifiers.
>
> > On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 8:34 PM Bob Elzer  wrote:
> >> my guess would be you are not unmounting it correctly. if you yank it
> >> out before unmounting it, you could be interrupting some write
> >> operations. which could corrupt something.
> >> Questions would be are you unmounting before you remove it.
> On 2018-09-27 01:07, Michael wrote:
> > yes
>
> The way the problem is showing up makes me think it's the automounter
> doing something dumb.  2 directories in /media/bmike1 , one named with
> the filesystem label of the disk, one named that label+"1" is a classic
> programmer solution to the problem of having two filesystems with the
> same label present at the same time.  Something somewhere forgot to
> clean up the old mountpoint, the automounter thinks the device is still
> there, and your backup fails because the device is mounted to a
> mountpoint that's not what you expect.
>
> So:  Go in to whatever's doing your automounting, gnome-mount or
> whatever, and umount all the removable media devices it thinks are
> mounted.  Unplug the disk.  After that, there should be no directories
> in /media/bmike1/ .  If there are, rmdir them.  Then plug the disk back
> in.  If you're lucky, the automounter will then put the disk on the
> right mountpoint.
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Re: rsync problem

[Bob Elzer]

yes I know it's a flash drive, thats why I asked those questions, they all
apply to hard drives.


On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 5:36 PM Michael  wrote:

> it isn't a flash drive. it is an external hard drive.
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 8:34 PM Bob Elzer  wrote:
>
>> I think the real question might be how do you remove the drive from the
>> system.
>>
>> you have had a lot of problems with flash drives doing the same thing and
>> we always thought it was the flash going bad, so we recommended a external
>> hard drive.
>>
>> Questions would be are you unmounting before you remove it.
>>
>> where do you keep it and how do you treat it.
>>
>> do you keep it you glove compartment and go off roading everyday?
>>
>> my guess would be you are not unmounting it correctly. if you yank it out
>> before unmounting it, you could be interrupting some write operations.
>> which could corrupt something.
>>
>> was this a new drive or a refurbished drive, or maybe an old used drive?
>>
>> I would only recommend using a new drive to store backups on.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 3:04 PM Matt Graham  wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-09-26 14:41, Michael wrote:
>>> >> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 5:27 PM Matt Graham 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 4:20 PM Michael  wrote:
>>> >>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ rsync -aWuq --delete-before
>>> >>> /home/bmike1/Documents /media/bmike1/"Seagate Expansion Drive"
>>> >>> rsync: mkdir "/media/bmike1/Seagate Expansion Drive" failed:
>>> >>> Permission denied (13)
>>> >> Post the output of "mount | grep bmike1" and "ls -l
>>> >> /media/bmike1" and "dmesg | tail".
>>>
>>> > /dev/sdc1 on /media/bmike1/Seagate Expansion Drive1 type fuseblk
>>> > bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ ls -l /media/bmike1
>>> > drwxr-xr-x 3 root   root   4096 Sep 25 19:16 Seagate Expansion Drive
>>> > drwxrwxrwx 1 bmike1 bmike1 4096 Sep 25 19:57 Seagate Expansion Drive1
>>>
>>> Have a good look at the ls -l output and the output from mount.  This
>>> is a problem people run into with automounters and sometimes mounting by
>>> device identifiers.  I had an older removable drive that would sometimes
>>> show up with a /dev/disk/by-id/ unique string that ended in
>>> "1870-0:0-part1" and sometimes "187-0:0-part1", which might confuse an
>>> automounter in a very similar way.
>>>
>>> Or you have multiple disks with identical volume labels.  That's always
>>> a recipe for disaster, kind of like putting a moose in a blender.
>>>
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Re: rsync problem

[Bob Elzer]

I think the real question might be how do you remove the drive from the
system.

you have had a lot of problems with flash drives doing the same thing and
we always thought it was the flash going bad, so we recommended a external
hard drive.

Questions would be are you unmounting before you remove it.

where do you keep it and how do you treat it.

do you keep it you glove compartment and go off roading everyday?

my guess would be you are not unmounting it correctly. if you yank it out
before unmounting it, you could be interrupting some write operations.
which could corrupt something.

was this a new drive or a refurbished drive, or maybe an old used drive?

I would only recommend using a new drive to store backups on.



On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 3:04 PM Matt Graham  wrote:

> On 2018-09-26 14:41, Michael wrote:
> >> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 5:27 PM Matt Graham 
> >> wrote:
>  On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 4:20 PM Michael  wrote:
> >>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ rsync -aWuq --delete-before
> >>> /home/bmike1/Documents /media/bmike1/"Seagate Expansion Drive"
> >>> rsync: mkdir "/media/bmike1/Seagate Expansion Drive" failed:
> >>> Permission denied (13)
> >> Post the output of "mount | grep bmike1" and "ls -l
> >> /media/bmike1" and "dmesg | tail".
>
> > /dev/sdc1 on /media/bmike1/Seagate Expansion Drive1 type fuseblk
> > bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ ls -l /media/bmike1
> > drwxr-xr-x 3 root   root   4096 Sep 25 19:16 Seagate Expansion Drive
> > drwxrwxrwx 1 bmike1 bmike1 4096 Sep 25 19:57 Seagate Expansion Drive1
>
> Have a good look at the ls -l output and the output from mount.  This
> is a problem people run into with automounters and sometimes mounting by
> device identifiers.  I had an older removable drive that would sometimes
> show up with a /dev/disk/by-id/ unique string that ended in
> "1870-0:0-part1" and sometimes "187-0:0-part1", which might confuse an
> automounter in a very similar way.
>
> Or you have multiple disks with identical volume labels.  That's always
> a recipe for disaster, kind of like putting a moose in a blender.
>
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Re: To swap or not to swap ;-) (was RE: To lvm or not to lvm)

[Bob Elzer]

> 4 - not having swap seems to make some things not work too well

Swap depends on how much memory you have and how much memory your programs
need.

Back in the day when ram was less than a gig we would use 2 to 3 times the
ram size for swap. You would add up the number and size of your programs
you needed to run and give it that extra swap knowing that when swapping
started it would slow things down some.

Nowadays you can have 32, 64, 128gb and more ram.

Programs are also bigger, but you still figure how much memory the programs
take and add them all up and compare that with your actual ram.

If you have 32gb of ram and only read mail and only browse google and PLUG,
then you wouldn't really need any swap. But if you keep hundreds of tabs
open, and have a huge memory resident database, and edit images and video,
you may want to have swap.

If you have 4-8gb of ram I would think 3 to 4 times that for swap.
16gb ram 1 to 2 times swap.
32 or more 1 times, depending on what you're doing maybe more.



On Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 1:08 PM Carruth, Rusty 
wrote:

> So, in my limited experience with swapping, here's my conclusions:
>
> 1 - one big (that is to say, at least your ram size, and possibly 2x your
> ram size) swap PARTITION is needed if you want to hibernate or suspend, and
> I think it has to be the first one in your fstab (but I'm not sure on that)
>
> 2 - swap files work fine, but can't be used for suspend/hibernate.
>
> 3 - suspend/hibernate doesn't work with multiple partitions if (the first
> one I think) isn't big enough to hold everything, even if the total swap
> space is plenty big.
>
> 4 - not having swap seems to make some things not work too well, even when
> you're not overflowing in to swap.  This one I don't have proof for, but it
> just felt like a no-swap system ran in to walls sooner.
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On
> Behalf Of Matt Graham
> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:35 AM
> To: Main PLUG discussion list
> Subject: Re: To lvm or not to lvm
>
>   You might even be able to get away without swap if you don't want to
> do suspend-to-disk.
>
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Re: VPN on virtual machine

[Bob Elzer]

Is the network connection working without the VPN?


On Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 10:57 PM Jim  wrote:

> I decided to try a virtual machine for bittorrent.  The host machine
> runs kubuntu 14.04 with 4GB RAM. I've installed virtualbox 5.2.18.  The
> virtual machine is running lubuntu 18 and has 1GB RAM.  The problem is
> with the vpn.  I can't get openvpn or pptp to work.  I configured them
> using the same instructions I did on the host machine.  When I try to
> start a VPN connction(openvpn or pptp)  on the guest machine, the icon
> appears to show it's trying to connect, then it just stops without
> offering any error message.  In  Virtualbox's settings for the guest
> machine under network, I chose attached to NAT.
>
> Any ideas what I should do different?
>
> thanks
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Re: Need advice on docsis 3.0 cable modem with DMZ and configurable.

[Bob Elzer]

thanks Michael
 it's been a long time since I've had a cable modem, it turns out that the
cable modem supplies and IP address to my Linux box so it's just like being
on the DMZ.

the Cox technician arrived and got everything set up and working so now I'm
enjoying the 30 MB download speed.

CenturyLink still tried to talk me into staying even though my download
speed was 2 MB

I switched over my initial HTTP links, now I just have to find all my
bookmarks and web pages that have the hard-coded HTTP and switch them, of
course they are on numerous devices.



On Sat, Sep 15, 2018, 11:22 AM Michael Butash  wrote:

> Cox modems (not combo access point/router/modem) are hard-coded to
> 192.168.100.1 in firmware and as part of the docsis configuration process,
> that cannot change.
>
> If using one of their combo modem/routers, it *should* be reconfigurable
> from the default subnet...  I've only played with one once, in an airbnb
> rental that was working like crap I decided to help the owner try and fix,
> but ymmv.  I never use the combo modem/routers myself, rather using a
> separate router always as they're never that great.
>
> As Stephen said, I was using a r7000 netgear with dd-wrt for the past few
> years and like it too, recently upgrading to a fortigate firewall only
> because I do a lot of security consulting these days around their
> products.  Ebay is great for old/used network kit, particularly if you're
> in IT and you want to dog food your own products at home.  You can always
> pick up a small Fortigate or PAN pretty cheap to play with, maybe even with
> feature licenses still working, but the consumer routers are usually OK so
> long as they're powerful enough and run tomato/ddwrt for long-term support
> when the vendor stops supporting them.
>
> With port 80, it has been blocked all the way back to @home days, and
> likely will be in perpetuity.  It's really their only differentiator
> between that and business services (well smtp, and support too), so don't
> expect them to lift this.  That said, they do allow 443 which wasn't always
> so, which is fine for using ssl vpn and basic https sevices, just no 80 for
> redirecting the http session to https.  You shouldn't use unencrypted
> websites these days anyways, even basic ones.
>
> -mb
>
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Bob Elzer  wrote:
>
>> ahhh, you're right about https, thanks for reminding me, so I'll have to
>> give all my links with https, interesting.
>>
>> yeah i saw that it had all the bells and whistles on your modem, i
>> already had my bells (WiFi), so now I'm looking for my whistles(cable
>> modem) separately.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 11:55 AM Stephen Partington 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't found one yet, wreaks havoc on my letsencrypt cert processes.
>>> however https is not blocked.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 11:43 AM Bob Elzer  wrote:
>>>
>>>> thanks Stephen, the c7000 is listed at $199, i can get docsis 3.1 for
>>>> less than that.
>>>>
>>>> I just want  my linux box which is my firewall in the dmz of my cable
>>>> modem for Cox cable.
>>>>
>>>> I'm also finding out they block port 80, anyone know if I can get that
>>>> lifted?
>>>>
>>>> The joys of switching ISPs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 10:11 AM Stephen Partington 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> you have 2 options, Im my case I used an ubiquity edgerouter lite and
>>>>> it has Wan +2 Lan ports and full commercial tools for management. but it
>>>>> can be set to amd a dmz on one port, and your network on the other port in
>>>>> very little time.
>>>>> https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-lite/
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want the All in one route, the other one I have used with great
>>>>> success is the netgear Nighthawk c7000, I only retired it when I moved 
>>>>> from
>>>>> Cable to Fiber.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.netgear.com/home/products/networking/cable-modems-routers/C7000.aspx
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 9:04 AM Bob Elzer  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I need advice on a docs is 3.0 cable modem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just bought a Motorola mb7220-10, it turns out there is nothing
>>>>>> that is configurable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's hard coded to 192.168.100 a

Re: Need advice on docsis 3.0 cable modem with DMZ and configurable.

[Bob Elzer]

ahhh, you're right about https, thanks for reminding me, so I'll have to
give all my links with https, interesting.

yeah i saw that it had all the bells and whistles on your modem, i already
had my bells (WiFi), so now I'm looking for my whistles(cable modem)
separately.



On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 11:55 AM Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> I haven't found one yet, wreaks havoc on my letsencrypt cert processes.
> however https is not blocked.
>
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 11:43 AM Bob Elzer  wrote:
>
>> thanks Stephen, the c7000 is listed at $199, i can get docsis 3.1 for
>> less than that.
>>
>> I just want  my linux box which is my firewall in the dmz of my cable
>> modem for Cox cable.
>>
>> I'm also finding out they block port 80, anyone know if I can get that
>> lifted?
>>
>> The joys of switching ISPs
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 10:11 AM Stephen Partington 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> you have 2 options, Im my case I used an ubiquity edgerouter lite and it
>>> has Wan +2 Lan ports and full commercial tools for management. but it can
>>> be set to amd a dmz on one port, and your network on the other port in very
>>> little time.
>>> https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-lite/
>>>
>>> If you want the All in one route, the other one I have used with great
>>> success is the netgear Nighthawk c7000, I only retired it when I moved from
>>> Cable to Fiber.
>>>
>>> https://www.netgear.com/home/products/networking/cable-modems-routers/C7000.aspx
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 9:04 AM Bob Elzer  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I need advice on a docs is 3.0 cable modem.
>>>>
>>>> I just bought a Motorola mb7220-10, it turns out there is nothing that
>>>> is configurable.
>>>>
>>>> It's hard coded to 192.168.100 and I want 192.168.0
>>>>
>>>> There's no DMZ or port forwarding. This was not clear when I ordered it.
>>>>
>>>> So I'm looking for one that I can configure with a DMZ and set to
>>>> 192.168.0, I don't need WiFi and I'd like it to cost under $100. My
>>>> download speed will only be 30mb so I don't need docsis 3.1
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have any recommendations?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 1:36 PM Stephen Partington 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In some places they even have fiber to the prem. (me)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 12:02 PM Michael Butash 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You need to make sure your modem supports 3.1 too, don't forget that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cox has just recently finished upgrading to all the new 3.1 hardware
>>>>>> here, and phoenix tends to be their technology leader market due to being
>>>>>> their biggest, so I'd be surprised if comcast has done more rural areas.
>>>>>> They always seem to be the first to fight any sort of rural network
>>>>>> legislation as they hate wasting their capital on non-rich areas, so make
>>>>>> sure they can even support the 8-24 channels down needed for those 
>>>>>> speeds.
>>>>>> You'd be amazed how screwed up cable plants can be in rural/old areas 
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> in some cases, they just cannot support the rates.  Tempe was like this 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> a long while here due to the original podunk cable co that built it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cox is actually one of the better cable MSO's out there sadly.  My
>>>>>> first job in tech in '99 was @home networks that pioneered cable modem
>>>>>> tech, and taught the cable behemoths about that little internet thing, 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> dealing with them all from comcast, cox, intermedia, att, and others, cox
>>>>>> was always one of the least crappy of them.  So much I even worked for 
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> after for a bit (more crappy to work for imho).  Not perfect, but
>>>>>> definitely better.  If you like to pirate media, oddly they were one of 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> strongest to reject lawsuits, abuse subpoenas, and other media cartel
>>>>>> incursions on human rights, where comcast (being th

Re: WiFi router recommendations.

[Bob Elzer]

I have a similar setup, modem->linux/firewall/dhcp -> internal
switch->wireless router

I have a TPLink Archer C2600 dual band router that works really well.

remember iot will only use 2.4ghz for now. My phone's do 5.0ghz

I got it on sale for $85

I just ran a cable from one of the wired ports to the switch and it just
worked


On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 10:37 AM Carruth, Rusty 
wrote:

> Ok, at the risk of getting flamed, here’s a pretty much completely
> non-Linux-related question (well, ok, other than the fact that I have NO
> windows boxes in my house J):
>
>
>
> I’ve got a WiFi router in the house that every once in a while burps.  I
> had a second one (downstairs) to improve coverage, but it died.
>
>
>
> So, now I need to buy a replacement for the downstairs router.
>
> My network topology is basically:  Cable -> cable modem -> Cisco
> firewall/router -> WiFi router -> the house wired network and wireless
> network
>
> I’ve got 2 printers (one or both may be wireless at any point in time) as
> well…
>
>
>
> I’m not sure if I’m going to plug the 2nd router in to the ‘house wired
> network’, or if I’m going to plug both WiFi routers in to the Cisco (and
> then probably move the house wired to the cisco also), or what.
>
>
>
> So, thoughts on the best topology, and recommendations/’stay away
> warnings’ for WiFi routers please?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
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Re: Need advice on docsis 3.0 cable modem with DMZ and configurable.

[Bob Elzer]

thanks Stephen, the c7000 is listed at $199, i can get docsis 3.1 for less
than that.

I just want  my linux box which is my firewall in the dmz of my cable modem
for Cox cable.

I'm also finding out they block port 80, anyone know if I can get that
lifted?

The joys of switching ISPs


On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 10:11 AM Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> you have 2 options, Im my case I used an ubiquity edgerouter lite and it
> has Wan +2 Lan ports and full commercial tools for management. but it can
> be set to amd a dmz on one port, and your network on the other port in very
> little time.
> https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-lite/
>
> If you want the All in one route, the other one I have used with great
> success is the netgear Nighthawk c7000, I only retired it when I moved from
> Cable to Fiber.
>
> https://www.netgear.com/home/products/networking/cable-modems-routers/C7000.aspx
>
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 9:04 AM Bob Elzer  wrote:
>
>> I need advice on a docs is 3.0 cable modem.
>>
>> I just bought a Motorola mb7220-10, it turns out there is nothing that is
>> configurable.
>>
>> It's hard coded to 192.168.100 and I want 192.168.0
>>
>> There's no DMZ or port forwarding. This was not clear when I ordered it.
>>
>> So I'm looking for one that I can configure with a DMZ and set to
>> 192.168.0, I don't need WiFi and I'd like it to cost under $100. My
>> download speed will only be 30mb so I don't need docsis 3.1
>>
>> Anyone have any recommendations?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 1:36 PM Stephen Partington 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In some places they even have fiber to the prem. (me)
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 12:02 PM Michael Butash 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You need to make sure your modem supports 3.1 too, don't forget that.
>>>>
>>>> Cox has just recently finished upgrading to all the new 3.1 hardware
>>>> here, and phoenix tends to be their technology leader market due to being
>>>> their biggest, so I'd be surprised if comcast has done more rural areas.
>>>> They always seem to be the first to fight any sort of rural network
>>>> legislation as they hate wasting their capital on non-rich areas, so make
>>>> sure they can even support the 8-24 channels down needed for those speeds.
>>>> You'd be amazed how screwed up cable plants can be in rural/old areas that
>>>> in some cases, they just cannot support the rates.  Tempe was like this for
>>>> a long while here due to the original podunk cable co that built it.
>>>>
>>>> Cox is actually one of the better cable MSO's out there sadly.  My
>>>> first job in tech in '99 was @home networks that pioneered cable modem
>>>> tech, and taught the cable behemoths about that little internet thing, and
>>>> dealing with them all from comcast, cox, intermedia, att, and others, cox
>>>> was always one of the least crappy of them.  So much I even worked for them
>>>> after for a bit (more crappy to work for imho).  Not perfect, but
>>>> definitely better.  If you like to pirate media, oddly they were one of the
>>>> strongest to reject lawsuits, abuse subpoenas, and other media cartel
>>>> incursions on human rights, where comcast (being the ultimate media whore
>>>> thanks to corrupt/owned fcc) is the opposite...
>>>>
>>>> That said, I've been having more frequent outages (including 2
>>>> yesterday) with Cox, and they're steadily warning and charging me for
>>>> bandwidth now, so I'm having Centurylink installed to check out that is
>>>> almost double the speed and $25 less than my cox bill now.  As much as I
>>>> hate Centurylink, they don't have the bandwidth caps, that started with
>>>> Comcast coincidentally, and Cox can stick it now (pun intended) that they
>>>> impose them too if I'm just going to go over monthly.  Joy of having both
>>>> services at least temporarily is I can steer traffic out either/both with
>>>> my Fortigate firewall with sd-wan features, so going to play a month or two
>>>> before I can one or the other to see...
>>>>
>>>> -mb
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 10:01 PM, Jim  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I found out Tuesday what was causing me to not get the speed I was
>>>>> told I should get.  Once again the Comcast guy I was talking to said he
>>&

Need advice on docsis 3.0 cable modem with DMZ and configurable.

[Bob Elzer]

I need advice on a docs is 3.0 cable modem.

I just bought a Motorola mb7220-10, it turns out there is nothing that is
configurable.

It's hard coded to 192.168.100 and I want 192.168.0

There's no DMZ or port forwarding. This was not clear when I ordered it.

So I'm looking for one that I can configure with a DMZ and set to
192.168.0, I don't need WiFi and I'd like it to cost under $100. My
download speed will only be 30mb so I don't need docsis 3.1

Anyone have any recommendations?

Thanks
Bob


On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 1:36 PM Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> In some places they even have fiber to the prem. (me)
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 12:02 PM Michael Butash 
> wrote:
>
>> You need to make sure your modem supports 3.1 too, don't forget that.
>>
>> Cox has just recently finished upgrading to all the new 3.1 hardware
>> here, and phoenix tends to be their technology leader market due to being
>> their biggest, so I'd be surprised if comcast has done more rural areas.
>> They always seem to be the first to fight any sort of rural network
>> legislation as they hate wasting their capital on non-rich areas, so make
>> sure they can even support the 8-24 channels down needed for those speeds.
>> You'd be amazed how screwed up cable plants can be in rural/old areas that
>> in some cases, they just cannot support the rates.  Tempe was like this for
>> a long while here due to the original podunk cable co that built it.
>>
>> Cox is actually one of the better cable MSO's out there sadly.  My first
>> job in tech in '99 was @home networks that pioneered cable modem tech, and
>> taught the cable behemoths about that little internet thing, and dealing
>> with them all from comcast, cox, intermedia, att, and others, cox was
>> always one of the least crappy of them.  So much I even worked for them
>> after for a bit (more crappy to work for imho).  Not perfect, but
>> definitely better.  If you like to pirate media, oddly they were one of the
>> strongest to reject lawsuits, abuse subpoenas, and other media cartel
>> incursions on human rights, where comcast (being the ultimate media whore
>> thanks to corrupt/owned fcc) is the opposite...
>>
>> That said, I've been having more frequent outages (including 2 yesterday)
>> with Cox, and they're steadily warning and charging me for bandwidth now,
>> so I'm having Centurylink installed to check out that is almost double the
>> speed and $25 less than my cox bill now.  As much as I hate Centurylink,
>> they don't have the bandwidth caps, that started with Comcast
>> coincidentally, and Cox can stick it now (pun intended) that they impose
>> them too if I'm just going to go over monthly.  Joy of having both services
>> at least temporarily is I can steer traffic out either/both with my
>> Fortigate firewall with sd-wan features, so going to play a month or two
>> before I can one or the other to see...
>>
>> -mb
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 10:01 PM, Jim  wrote:
>>
>>> I found out Tuesday what was causing me to not get the speed I was told
>>> I should get.  Once again the Comcast guy I was talking to said he wanted
>>> to send out a repairman to find out why I wasn't getting the 150 Mbps
>>> everything told him I should be getting.  Tuesday morning the repairman
>>> showed up with his supervisor.  The supervisor told me the 150 Mbps speed
>>> is for customers in areas that are served with a docsis 3.1 network, but
>>> where I live is served by a docsis 3.1 network.  Because of this I get 100
>>> Mbps, but could get 150 if I wanted to pay more. Then he said the network
>>> in this area isn't able to supply everyone with 150 Mbps, and no he doesn't
>>> know when this area will be upgraded.  I was amazed that all the corporate
>>> people I talked to didn't know that this was the case.  They all said I
>>> should be getting 150.
>>>
>>> After the repairman and his boss left, I called and emailed the
>>> corporate people who had been telling me I should be getting 150 and told
>>> them what the local supervisor said.  Later one of them called back and
>>> agreed with me that since I had been told I should be getting 150, that he
>>> would give it to me for the price I'm paying now.
>>>
>>>
>>> Is Cox as fscked up as Comcast?
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Re: Downloadable CIDR network calculator

[Bob Elzer]

Here is a graphical one I found and installed on my centos system

http://freshmeat.sourceforge.net/projects/gip


On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 8:52 AM, Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> There is also a really good one on android as well.
>
> Except the one I liked no longer exists. There are a bunch more that look
> good however.
>
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018, 7:26 AM Steve Litt 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've created a downloadable CIDR (Classless Inter-Domain Routing)
>> network calculator, whose sole dependency is Python3. It runs in any
>> terminal or terminal emulator on any Linux or presumably BSD machine.
>>
>> http://troubleshooters.com/linux/cidr_calc.htm
>>
>>
>> SteveT
>>
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Re: What does this mean?

[Bob Elzer]

Not sure if this works for kubuntu, but when the system is booting you can
hit the esc key and it should show the all the boot messages.



On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 12:20 AM Jim  wrote:

> Whenever I boot the computer into Kubuntu 18, it takes a couple of
> minutes to boot.  For a while the screen is blank.  Finally I'm able to
> see what it's doing as it boots, and I find this.
>
>
> a start job is running for
> dev-disk-by\x2uuid-377be6ee\x2dc467\x2d44fc\x2de7dad05366fd.device
>
> Then in parenthesis there is a timer like this (1min 9s / 1min 30s) The
> number before the slash counts up to 1min 30s then the system continues
> booting like it should.
>
> Any idea what this is or how to fix it?
>
> thanks
>
>
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Re: Debian 9 vs Ubuntu 18

[Bob Elzer]

P.s. let's not forget tech savvy grandma Betty who was asking questions and
installing Linux on her computer with the help of the mailing list.


On Tue, Sep 4, 2018, 11:29 AM Bob Elzer  wrote:

> To break that down, how computer savvy is the user. I agree mint is great
> for the not so savvy. Even for the savvy that don't want complicated.
>
> But if you want a server and being able to do lots of stuff, my choice is
> centos.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018, 10:41 AM Matt Birkholz 
> wrote:
>
>> I find myself proselytizing. (Skynet comes!) So if friends and family see
>> something at my house they like I reflexively tell them they can have a
>> similar setup for free(dom). I want them seeing Ubuntu, maybe Mint, because
>> I can't imagine them using anything easier on the non-programmer. And I use
>> them myself; familiarity with Ubuntu quirks makes me look less like a Linux
>> Dork who, like a fan boy, said it would be "easy".
>>
>> So to add to Steve's list of questions: What would you want your granny
>> to use?
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Re: Debian 9 vs Ubuntu 18

[Bob Elzer]

To break that down, how computer savvy is the user. I agree mint is great
for the not so savvy. Even for the savvy that don't want complicated.

But if you want a server and being able to do lots of stuff, my choice is
centos.



On Tue, Sep 4, 2018, 10:41 AM Matt Birkholz 
wrote:

> I find myself proselytizing. (Skynet comes!) So if friends and family see
> something at my house they like I reflexively tell them they can have a
> similar setup for free(dom). I want them seeing Ubuntu, maybe Mint, because
> I can't imagine them using anything easier on the non-programmer. And I use
> them myself; familiarity with Ubuntu quirks makes me look less like a Linux
> Dork who, like a fan boy, said it would be "easy".
>
> So to add to Steve's list of questions: What would you want your granny to
> use?
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Re: Debian 9 vs Ubuntu 18

[Bob Elzer]

Jim, how much memory do you have?

You could always create some virtual machines to try some different distros.


On Sep 4, 2018 10:06 AM, "Jim"  wrote:

On 09/04/2018 09:46 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
> I think your near-future decisions are much more wide ranging than
> Kubuntu vs Debian Stable:
>
> * Do you want to keep using KDE?
Yes

> * Where on the "User Friendly" vs DIY spectrum do you want to reside
When I install it, I want it to just work, but I want to be able to
tweak some settings if I want to.

> * Do you have issues with using systemd?
No

> * Are there distros you like or dislike because of the way they do
>business?
No

> * Major versions, or rolling release?
As long as it works and is stable, I don't care if it's a major version
or rolling install.

> * Binary install, or compiled install?
I prefer to install binaries rather than compiling from source.  I'm not
a programmer, so I don't understand the compiling process well. I can
follow the step by step instructions, but if something goes wrong, I
usually don't know how to fix it, or even if fixing it is possible.
Thanks for all the advice. I have a 128GB SSD to boot from, but only use
40GB for Kubuntu, so there's plenty of room to install another OS for
testing.

> You probably have no opinion on many of these things, but at least ask
> the question. Then, look at Distrowatch and ask LOTS of people what
> they use. For instance, I use Void Linux, which, although not appearing
> in the Distrowatch top 100, is the most stable and DIY distro I've ever
> used. Lately, I've heard many things about #20, PCLinuxOS. #1 Manjaro
> is pretty good if you don't mind systemd and the fact that it's rolling
> release.
>
> You expressed dissatisfaction with Kubuntu's bugs. Big, bloaty wm/de's
> (Window Manager/Desktop Environment) are necessarily buggy: Too much
> complication to build quality in from the start, so they play
> whack-a-mole with bugs, and actually have other problems. Try Lubuntu,
> which is Ubuntu with the very lightweight and rock-stable LXDE wm/de.
> If you're a touch-typist, install dmenu to enable lightning fast
> command-running: Much faster than any hierarchical menu can give you.
>
> You probably have many options I haven't discussed. The main thing is
> this: At this point, limiting yourself to Ubuntu or Debian would be
> premature.
>
> SteveT
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Re: Debian 9 vs Ubuntu 18

[Bob Elzer]

Excellent Steve,
Jim needs to make a list of what he does and uses on his Linux box. I used
to upgrade on every release of Red hat by doing a fresh install, but every
six months was a lot of work. Now I use Centos because of long term support
and the fact it has so many things I can do with it.



On Tue, Sep 4, 2018, 9:53 AM Steve Litt  wrote:

> On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 22:50:41 -0700
> Jim  wrote:
>
> > I've been using Kubuntu for 5 years now since I freed my computer
> > from windows and started running linux.  For most of that time I used
> > Kubuntu 14.  I tried 16, but soon gave up on it because there were
> > too many bugs.  In July I put Kubuntu 18 on this machine. There are
> > some annoying bugs with it, but nothing that keeps me from using it.
> >
> > I saw on here recently that someone said they use the stable branch
> > of Debian.  I'm looking for some advice.  Should I stay with Kubuntu
> > or switch to Debian 9 stable?  If you have an opinion, please tell
> > why you favor one over the other.
>
> I think your near-future decisions are much more wide ranging than
> Kubuntu vs Debian Stable:
>
> * Do you want to keep using KDE?
>
> * Where on the "User Friendly" vs DIY spectrum do you want to reside?
>
> * Do you have issues with using systemd?
>
> * Are there distros you like or dislike because of the way they do
>   business?
>
> * Major versions, or rolling release?
>
> * Binary install, or compiled install?
>
> You probably have no opinion on many of these things, but at least ask
> the question. Then, look at Distrowatch and ask LOTS of people what
> they use. For instance, I use Void Linux, which, although not appearing
> in the Distrowatch top 100, is the most stable and DIY distro I've ever
> used. Lately, I've heard many things about #20, PCLinuxOS. #1 Manjaro
> is pretty good if you don't mind systemd and the fact that it's rolling
> release.
>
> You expressed dissatisfaction with Kubuntu's bugs. Big, bloaty wm/de's
> (Window Manager/Desktop Environment) are necessarily buggy: Too much
> complication to build quality in from the start, so they play
> whack-a-mole with bugs, and actually have other problems. Try Lubuntu,
> which is Ubuntu with the very lightweight and rock-stable LXDE wm/de.
> If you're a touch-typist, install dmenu to enable lightning fast
> command-running: Much faster than any hierarchical menu can give you.
>
> You probably have many options I haven't discussed. The main thing is
> this: At this point, limiting yourself to Ubuntu or Debian would be
> premature.
>
> SteveT
>
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On Sep 4, 2018 9:53 AM, "Steve Litt"  wrote:

On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 22:50:41 -0700
Jim  wrote:

> I've been using Kubuntu for 5 years now since I freed my computer
> from windows and started running linux.  For most of that time I used
> Kubuntu 14.  I tried 16, but soon gave up on it because there were
> too many bugs.  In July I put Kubuntu 18 on this machine. There are
> some annoying bugs with it, but nothing that keeps me from using it.
>
> I saw on here recently that someone said they use the stable branch
> of Debian.  I'm looking for some advice.  Should I stay with Kubuntu
> or switch to Debian 9 stable?  If you have an opinion, please tell
> why you favor one over the other.

I think your near-future decisions are much more wide ranging than
Kubuntu vs Debian Stable:

* Do you want to keep using KDE?

* Where on the "User Friendly" vs DIY spectrum do you want to reside?

* Do you have issues with using systemd?

* Are there distros you like or dislike because of the way they do
  business?

* Major versions, or rolling release?

* Binary install, or compiled install?

You probably have no opinion on many of these things, but at least ask
the question. Then, look at Distrowatch and ask LOTS of people what
they use. For instance, I use Void Linux, which, although not appearing
in the Distrowatch top 100, is the most stable and DIY distro I've ever
used. Lately, I've heard many things about #20, PCLinuxOS. #1 Manjaro
is pretty good if you don't mind systemd and the fact that it's rolling
release.

You expressed dissatisfaction with Kubuntu's bugs. Big, bloaty wm/de's
(Window Manager/Desktop Environment) are necessarily buggy: Too much
complication to build quality in from the start, so they play
whack-a-mole with bugs, and actually have other problems. Try Lubuntu,
which is Ubuntu with the very lightweight and rock-stable LXDE wm/de.
If you're a touch-typist, install dmenu to enable lightning fast
command-running: Much faster than any hierarchical menu can give you.

You probably have many options I haven't discussed. The main thing is

Re: LibreOffice style editing

[Bob Elzer]

You could copy the section and paste it into a text editor, delete it from
the document then copy the text  and paste it back in.

Not the solution you're looking, but sometimes the correct answer takes too
long to hunt down.

Save the original so you can figure it out at a more convenient time.

You seem to have found the most obvious ways of fixing this, I find
sometimes it is caused by something from another section of the document
that carries over to the section you're trying to fix.

If the data is not sensitive maybe you could upload the section and we
could all work on an answer.


On Sat, Aug 25, 2018, 11:55 PM der.hans  wrote:

> moin moin,
>
> I'm importing some documents into LibreOffice and one of the paragraph
> styles is getting numbered. I do not want the numbering.
>
> The style is also getting bold and border, which I can disable via
> the style editor.
>
> Via the style editor changing Outline & Numbering doesn't get rid of the
> numbering. It doesn't look like it's enabled in that tab.
>
> Under Organizer there's a Contains paragraph that includes
> "Numbering(Outline) + 1"
>
> I tried changing it to inherit from a style that does not get numbering,
> the numbering stayed.
>
> I found the Properties editor and the toggle for Numbered List ( click or
> hit F12 ), which does get rid of the number. It leaves the leading period
> and space, which also need to go.
>
> Any ideas for how to get rid of thіs numbering?
>
> Alternatively, and probably better, any idea how to select all items in
> this style, so I can easily change them to a new style? Even better if I
> can make that change automagically :)
>
> ciao,
>
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Re: Steam Jumps for New Wine Variant?

[Bob Elzer]

Let me know when Battlefield 4 works :-p


On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. <
herminio.hernande...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am currently testing games some work and some do not. Steam has a
> whitelist that is growing
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 10:33 AM Stephen Partington 
> wrote:
>
>> https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/08/valves-steam-
>> play-uses-vulkan-to-bring-more-windows-games-to-linux/
>>
>> This is pretty fascinating in my book... Just that they are building a
>> Wine / VKd3d fork in tandem...
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Re: OT: Cell Phone Advice

[Bob Elzer]

have you tried this? did it work

my understanding is if it doesn't work they tell you to contact them and
charge you to root it,  with no guarantee that they can root it



On Thu, Jul 26, 2018, 11:11 AM Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> https://www.kingoapp.com/root-tutorials/how-to-root-galaxy-note2.htm
>
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 10:34 AM Bob Elzer  wrote:
>
>> i have the same phone and gave up when walmart stopped supporting their
>> app on it,  I got a brand new lg v20 on ebay for $200 mpdel h918 for
>> tmobile it runs android 7.0
>>
>> let me know if you get this updated, from my understanding one of the
>> last updates of the note 2 locked it so it can't be rooted. I've been
>> looking but haven't found a recent root.
>>
>> i would really like to root mine so i can do some useful things with it.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018, 7:41 AM Stephen Partington 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have done lots of Roms in the past, they are pretty basic to sort out
>>> with reading and some basic concepts of Linux and the funny partitioning
>>> that android relies on. but just a quick look you can get up to about
>>> android 7 or so with LineageOS (fork of Cyanogenmod before they went off
>>> the deep end.
>>>
>>> https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/t0lte This has info about the Note2
>>> and LineageOS. Super simple to set up. especially on older devices that
>>> have been hugely documented. (install steps here
>>> https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/t0lte/install)
>>>
>>> Personally I am using the OnePlus3 the OxygenOS CE that they are running
>>> is i think my favorite stock experience EVER. Add a little root, and
>>> Substratum and the device does everything I want. even for a 2 year old
>>> device. the only reason I want the OnePlus6 is for the new spectrum on the
>>> radio. The 3 is still a really decent device. You can find them around for
>>> about 200 to 300 still. Also you can look into the Essential phone. Also
>>> really good in concept, but I am not sure how well it is doing as it went
>>> on sale for prime day and dropped over 50% off MSRP.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 8:40 PM Victor Odhner  wrote:
>>>
>>>> My Samsung Galaxy Note II has been left behind.
>>>>   * Samsung/T-Mobile offer no updates, I’m stuck at 4.2.
>>>>   * T-Mobile has increased coverage,
>>>> but my phone doesn’t reach their new channels.
>>>>   * The new thermostat I’m working with requires 4.5,
>>>> so I have to use my wife’s to control it.
>>>>   * The new version of weatherunderground.com
>>>> doesn’t work on what I’ve got, and it’s got
>>>> all the local amateur weather stations.
>>>>
>>>> I think 5-1/2 years is pretty good for a phone, but it burns me being
>>>> abandoned like that.
>>>>
>>>> Before I cave in and buy a new phone, since I’m letting go of this
>>>> phone as it is, . . .
>>>> . . . is it time to root it, and install a new ROM that knows the Brave
>>>> New World?
>>>>
>>>> I see these:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEkN919cHpk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-2/general/4-5-6a-t3269950
>>>>
>>>> Is this a possible solution for me?
>>>> … and if I did do this, could I later convert it to operate as just a
>>>> WIFI device as I moved on with a new phone?
>>>>
>>>> There is no way I’d take on this job myself, with all that talent out
>>>> in LinuxLand.
>>>> I *would* trust (and pay) a consultant who has done this kind of thing
>>>> repeatedly, without recent bricking events.
>>>>
>>>> Please advise . . .
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Victor Odhner
>>>>
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Re: OT: Cell Phone Advice

[Bob Elzer]

i have the same phone and gave up when walmart stopped supporting their app
on it,  I got a brand new lg v20 on ebay for $200 mpdel h918 for tmobile it
runs android 7.0

let me know if you get this updated, from my understanding one of the last
updates of the note 2 locked it so it can't be rooted. I've been looking
but haven't found a recent root.

i would really like to root mine so i can do some useful things with it.



On Thu, Jul 26, 2018, 7:41 AM Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> I have done lots of Roms in the past, they are pretty basic to sort out
> with reading and some basic concepts of Linux and the funny partitioning
> that android relies on. but just a quick look you can get up to about
> android 7 or so with LineageOS (fork of Cyanogenmod before they went off
> the deep end.
>
> https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/t0lte This has info about the Note2
> and LineageOS. Super simple to set up. especially on older devices that
> have been hugely documented. (install steps here
> https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/t0lte/install)
>
> Personally I am using the OnePlus3 the OxygenOS CE that they are running
> is i think my favorite stock experience EVER. Add a little root, and
> Substratum and the device does everything I want. even for a 2 year old
> device. the only reason I want the OnePlus6 is for the new spectrum on the
> radio. The 3 is still a really decent device. You can find them around for
> about 200 to 300 still. Also you can look into the Essential phone. Also
> really good in concept, but I am not sure how well it is doing as it went
> on sale for prime day and dropped over 50% off MSRP.
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 8:40 PM Victor Odhner  wrote:
>
>> My Samsung Galaxy Note II has been left behind.
>>   * Samsung/T-Mobile offer no updates, I’m stuck at 4.2.
>>   * T-Mobile has increased coverage,
>> but my phone doesn’t reach their new channels.
>>   * The new thermostat I’m working with requires 4.5,
>> so I have to use my wife’s to control it.
>>   * The new version of weatherunderground.com
>> doesn’t work on what I’ve got, and it’s got
>> all the local amateur weather stations.
>>
>> I think 5-1/2 years is pretty good for a phone, but it burns me being
>> abandoned like that.
>>
>> Before I cave in and buy a new phone, since I’m letting go of this phone
>> as it is, . . .
>> . . . is it time to root it, and install a new ROM that knows the Brave
>> New World?
>>
>> I see these:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEkN919cHpk
>>
>>
>> https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-2/general/4-5-6a-t3269950
>>
>> Is this a possible solution for me?
>> … and if I did do this, could I later convert it to operate as just a
>> WIFI device as I moved on with a new phone?
>>
>> There is no way I’d take on this job myself, with all that talent out in
>> LinuxLand.
>> I *would* trust (and pay) a consultant who has done this kind of thing
>> repeatedly, without recent bricking events.
>>
>> Please advise . . .
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Victor Odhner
>>
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Re: printer is not responding

[Bob Elzer]

how are you connected to the printer?  wifi or usb ?

if usb check the cable? if wifi maybe you need to set it up again or switch
to usb


On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 11:21 AM Joe Lowder  wrote:

> Second attempt to send this to PLUG.
>
> When I sent this a few hours ago, it was
> bounced back to me as "undeliverable"
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: 'printer is not responding'
> From:Joe Lowder 
> Date:Tue, July 10, 2018 at 12:08 am
> To:  "Main PLUG discussion list" 
>
> http://127.0.0.1:631/printers/
> returns this result:
> ▼ Queue Name ▼  Description LocationMake and Model  Status
> HL2270DWBrother HL2270DWJoe's study Brother HL2270DW
> for
> CUPSProcessing - "The printer is not responding."
>
> Ironically, it seems that my wife is able to print from
> windows laptop. How can that be?
>
> 
> On Mon, July 9, 2018 11:49 pm, Brian Cluff wrote:
> > Have you tried going to http://127.0.0.1:631/printers/ and then clicking
> >  on the printer name.  I usually find that it will tell me exactly what
> > is happening with the printer or the connection to the printer.
>
> -
> > On 07/09/2018 07:45 PM, Joe Lowder wrote:
> >
> >> My printer (Brother HL2270DW has been working fine
> >> wireless for a couple years, but today after printing a document, and
> >> then sending another document to print, it failed to print.
> >>
> >> lpstat shows the document is still in queue.
> >>
> >> I had made no settings changes, and I feel certain that
> >> the printer itself has not failed. I have tried everything suggested to
> >> trouble-shoot on internet sites, but I cannot get it to go again.
> >>
> >> This link shows what I see in System Settings:
> >>
> >> -- http://upquick.com/temp/printer.jpg --
> >>
> >> What can I do to get this running again?
>
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Re: children of spectre

[Bob Elzer]

For the Spectre problem, I think we need patch007-jb-hmss.exe

:-p


On Thu, May 3, 2018, 2:17 PM Eric Oyen  wrote:

> wonderful,
>
> All of this from a simple (and poorly thought out) design change back in
> the early 1990's.  This is why Apple is changing their hardware again (they
> are dumping Intel after spring of 2019).
>
> Right now, the problem I see with any software solution this problem is
> that there will always be some method to disable it, uninstall it or work
> around it.
>
> So, until Intel (and any  other hardware producer) changes this at the die
> level (on chip), issues like this will continue to crop up.
>
> -eric
>
> On May 3, 2018, at 9:11 AM, der.hans wrote:
>
> > moin moin,
> >
> > 8 new intel flaws set for announcement.
> >
> >
> https://www.heise.de/ct/artikel/Exclusive-Spectre-NG-Multiple-new-Intel-CPU-flaws-revealed-several-serious-4040648.html
> >
> > At least one of the kids appears to be much worse than spectre.
> >
> > "an attacker could launch exploit code in a virtual machine (VM) and
> > attack the host system from there – the server of a cloud hoster, for
> > example. Alternatively, it could attack the VMs of other customers
> running
> > on the same server."
> >
> > "Intel's Software Guard Extensions (SGX), which are designed to protect
> > sensitive data on cloud servers, are also not Spectre-safe."
> >
> > ciao,
> >
> > der.hans
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Re:

[Bob Elzer]

Yo Adrian,  (sorry couldn't resist)

All your replies seem to be missing the subject line, so it look like you
are spouting random stuff.

Your replies aren't getting grouped with the others because of it


On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 4:57 PM Adrian Cardenas 
wrote:

> Qubes OS. An extremely secure OS but for advanced users only. ...
> Tails. Stay anonymous online by using the Tor network. ...
> BlackArch Linux. Boasts a huge range of pen-testing and hacking tools. ...
> Kali. ...
> IprediaOS. ...
> Whonix. ...
> Discreete Linux. ...
> Parrot Security OS.
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Re: installed livecd to boot sector?

[Bob Elzer]

Michael, I don't know how to fix the current problem but I can help you
from getting into these situations in the future.

Backup Backup Backup

Before you start making changes to your OS, you need to make a bare metal
backup.
The easiest way to accomplish this is to clone the OS drive.

After you clone, then if you screw up the Os you can just do a reverse
clone and you are back to where you started.

Also you need to stop doing open heart surgery, for an ingrown toenail. If
you're having issues with darktable, post a question about the problem,
 upgrading the OS seems like overkill.

I've mentioned this before, you should look at running your system in a
virtual machine.

Then before making changes to the system you can take a snapshot, make the
changes and then test them. If things go wrong, you just reboot to the
previous snapshot, if all is fine after a week, you can delete the old
snapshot.

You could also clone the virtual system and do testing in the clone before
updating the original.

Backup Backup Backup

If you had a bare metal backup, you'd be up and running already.

Hope this helps for the future.




On Mon, Apr 9, 2018, 8:22 PM Michael  wrote:

> I forgot to mention that when I load 18.2/18.3 the cdrom icon shows the
> disk I have in and the install icon is also visible.
>
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 10:22 PM, Michael  wrote:
>
>> well, I just realized, of course they are not going to be available I
>> haven't installed them on the new os. now I just meed to load into the os
>> instead of the live os
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 9:46 PM, Michael  wrote:
>>
>>> okay. if I load the livecd and then load from local disk I can load
>>> my home directory but not with everything. For instance kmymoney is not
>>> available, darktable is not available, Chrome is not available, and others
>>> as well.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 9:06 PM, Michael  wrote:
>>>
 I have no idea what I  did wrong..
 first. darktable was messing up so I decided to upgrade Mint to the
 newest version to see if that would fix it.
 I put the disk in and installed it but upon restarting the live disk
 loaded again. Then I tried installing it again but it would load the OS
 from the live disk (I guess) but then when the gui started it would access
 the hard disk drive. I then tried putting a previous version on and this
 time it installed (instead of failing) but when I restart the computer it
 loaded the live disk (which was not in the computer at the time. What in
 the world did I do?

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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Re: double sided scanning

[Bob Elzer]

does your hardware have the ability to scan a two sided document?

if not, maybe xsane knows and won't give you the option


On Feb 25, 2018 7:57 AM, "Michael"  wrote:

> Love xsane but I can't figure out how to scann double sided pages. From my
> googling of the issue there is supposed to be a checkbox but I can't find
> it. Can  ya give a poor soul some assistance? or else inform me of
> sommething better than xsane?
> xsane version 0.999
>
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Re: How to get ffmpeg installed on my system?

[Bob Elzer]

you can run rehash if you run csh to load any new programs in your path

also the command. whereis ffmpeg  should tell you its path


On Jan 3, 2018 4:56 PM,  wrote:

> > Strange... did you get an error while it was installing?
>
> no
>
>
> > On 01/03/2018 12:39 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote:
> >> Thanks to all who responded,
> >> but ffmpeg is apparently still not found on my system.
> >>
> >> cat workshop2.VOB | ffmpeg -i - workit.mp4
> >>
> >> ffmpeg: command not found
> >>
> >> This was after I did this:
> >>
> >> sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
> >>
> >> Then this:
> >>
> >> dpkg -l *ffmpeg*
> >>
> >> Got this result:
> >>
> >> |
> >> Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/
> trig-aWait/Trig-pend
> >> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
> >> ||/ Name  Version   Architecture  Description
> >> +++-=-=-=-==
> =
> >> ii  ffmpegthumbs  4:4.14.2-0ubu amd64 video thumbnail generator
> >> using
> >> ffmpeg
> >> ii  gstreamer0.10-ffm 0.10.13-5ubun amd64 FFmpeg plugin for GStreamer
> >> ii  kffmpegthumbnaile 1.1.0-0ubuntu amd64 video thumbnailer for KDE
> >> ii  libffmpegthumbnai 2.0.8-2   amd64 shared library for
> >> ffmpegthumbnailer
> >> ii  libxine1-ffmpeg   1.1.21-2ubunt amd64 MPEG-related plugins for
> >> libxine1
> >>
> >>
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Re: How to get ffmpeg installed on my system?

[Bob Elzer]

if it installed, it wont necessarily show up in your path.

try typing the whole path to the location of ffmpeg


On Jan 3, 2018 4:56 PM,  wrote:

> > Strange... did you get an error while it was installing?
>
> no
>
>
> > On 01/03/2018 12:39 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote:
> >> Thanks to all who responded,
> >> but ffmpeg is apparently still not found on my system.
> >>
> >> cat workshop2.VOB | ffmpeg -i - workit.mp4
> >>
> >> ffmpeg: command not found
> >>
> >> This was after I did this:
> >>
> >> sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
> >>
> >> Then this:
> >>
> >> dpkg -l *ffmpeg*
> >>
> >> Got this result:
> >>
> >> |
> >> Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/
> trig-aWait/Trig-pend
> >> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
> >> ||/ Name  Version   Architecture  Description
> >> +++-=-=-=-==
> =
> >> ii  ffmpegthumbs  4:4.14.2-0ubu amd64 video thumbnail generator
> >> using
> >> ffmpeg
> >> ii  gstreamer0.10-ffm 0.10.13-5ubun amd64 FFmpeg plugin for GStreamer
> >> ii  kffmpegthumbnaile 1.1.0-0ubuntu amd64 video thumbnailer for KDE
> >> ii  libffmpegthumbnai 2.0.8-2   amd64 shared library for
> >> ffmpegthumbnailer
> >> ii  libxine1-ffmpeg   1.1.21-2ubunt amd64 MPEG-related plugins for
> >> libxine1
> >>
> >>
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Re: Lists and the DMCA

[Bob Elzer]

you sent this a day late, oh no I'm screwed

On Jan 1, 2018 12:38 AM, "Kaoru Wilbur"  wrote:

> Today was the deadline for limitations on liability if you have not
> updated your DMCA agent information digitally, I suggest you do so promptly.
>
> https://blogs.loc.gov/copyright/2017/12/dmca-agent-
> re-registration-deadline-is-december-31-2017/
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Re: Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!!

[Bob Elzer]

Actually you can go to about any website and get a free cookie.

But only if you accept cookies.

Cheers!!



On Dec 28, 2017 2:05 PM, "Andrew McRobb"  wrote:

Happy New Years! I thought I should give everyone cookies this year, if
that's cool.

All of you would just need to get the ingredients and bake them. ;)

Andrew McRobb
Full-time Software Developer
Part-time Freelancer
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On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Mark Phillips 
wrote:

> Same to everyone!
>
> Mark
>
> On Dec 27, 2017 4:59 AM, "Matthew Crews" 
> wrote:
>
>> Merry Christmas, and Happy Gnu Year ;)
>>
>> ​Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email.
>>
>> ​
>>
>> > Original Message 
>> >Subject: Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!!
>> >Local Time: December 25, 2017 6:30 AM
>> >UTC Time: December 25, 2017 1:30 PM
>> >From: techli...@phpcoderusa.com
>> >To: Main PLUG discussion list 
>> >
>> >
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Re: Y2K

[Bob Elzer]

My fix for y2k was to push it off for 20 years.

There were no dates before 1921 in the data, so the 2 digit year below 21
was treated as 2001-2020 so I have 2 more years before it becomes a problem.

Luckily those computers aren't running any more.

Merry Christmas Everyone.


On Dec 25, 2017 6:38 AM,  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Y2K was 18 years ago.  Do you remember where you were?  I do.
>
> I had just gotten off a large Y2K project and my wife and I did some
> prepping...  Looking back we did not do enough given the potential for
> catastrophic failure.
>
> We stayed up all night glued to the TV watching as each time zone passed
> into Y2K.  As I recall there was two minor issues.  A small power station
> had some issues... and I do not recall the other one.
>
> I remember there was a lot of speculation because there was so much
> technology out there that was untested and it was uncertain if it would
> fail or continue once Y2K was reached.  And in 1999 there was so much less
> technology than there is today
>
>
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Re: Good Cheap PC to play MP3s and MP4 video? (Was: OT Mac Mini obsolescent?)

[Bob Elzer]

Hey Victor,

My main point was the google chrome cast, once that is hooked up you have
tons of ways of playing mp3s and videos to the device.

One of the latest VLC nightly builds just included casting, there are all
sorts of apps that cast

You can cast from Android, iOS, Windows and Linux, the chrome browser will
cast to it.

So if the main object is playing video and music through a projector, any
smartphone could accomplish this. Any cheap PC would too.


On Dec 6, 2017 5:11 PM, "Victor Odhner"  wrote:

> Thanks, Bob.
>
> My wife has a chromebook. It saved us a few bucks and she’s OK with it,
> but it wasted a lot of my time working around it to get printing done: now
> if she wants to print something double-sided she prints it single and then
> sends me to Fedex Office to run copies double sided. I don’t like having
> exactly one way to do something, when I can have choices. And I see no need
> to ship my data offsite, over a link that just gives us one more component
> to fail, so that the data can come back.
> *:)*
>
> I know chromebook will grow up, but it’s not ready. I depend totally on
> Google Calendar, and a few years ago outgrew the stage where it kept losing
> data.
>
> So thanks for helping Google perfect their stuff. I’m just a dinosaur. I
> even have a little hobby of keeping my data away from Google when its
> benefits aren’t compelling. (Yeah, I know that’s futile, it’s just a game
> for me.)
> __
>
> On 20171206, at 16:39, Bob Elzer  wrote:
>
> Why not just buy a google chromecast.
>
> Then you can send anything you want to it. You could get a chromebook
> (lots of cheap ones) or send it from most phones (Android phones are
> linux). You can even cast from a google home mini.
>
> Google Chromecast $35
> Google Home mini.   $30 currently (requires internet)
> Chromebook  $100-$400
>
> You could get all 3 for under $200
>
> Does the church have wifi?  if not, you'd have to add that in.
>
>
>
> On Dec 6, 2017 10:46 AM, "Victor Odhner"  wrote:
>
>> OK, I’ve decided on Linux. (No longer OT*!*)
>>
>> I need recommendations on an adequate PC to run stereo music and videos
>> (1920x1080 projector) for a church.
>>
>> I decided that Linux would be best to ensure that we can have good
>> performance and up-to-date software for this well-defined application. We
>> wouldn’t be at the mercy of Apple or Microsoft dragging us around a sharp
>> corner. My main backup guy has been using Linux (Mint, like me) for some
>> years, and the apps are basic enough that our other users would be
>> comfortable.
>>
>> I’d like to keep this as cheap as reasonable, concentrating on solid
>> quality (e.g. really adequate power supply) so that we wouldn’t have to
>> worry about it for 5 to 10 years. I’d want all parts to be brand new, or
>> almost.
>>
>> Is there still a Linux systems store in the Valley? Should I just put
>> together a box with parts from Fry’s or the Web?
>>
>> Hey, is there someone out there who would like to give me a quote for an
>> assembled box? (I have kb, monitor and mouse.)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Victor
>> _
>>
>> On 20171130, at 14:55, Stephen Partington  wrote:
>>
>> well if you are looking to maintain portability you can look at the Intel
>> NUC. but really this relies entirely on what your budget is.
>>
>> Looking at your existing application Digital Performer installs on
>> Windows or OSX, also you can look into the Hackintosh. there are some build
>> guides out there that run with a fully tested hardware configs to consider.
>>
>> But the Mac mini is a viable system even with the age of the device.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Carruth, Rusty <
>> rusty.carr...@smartm.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m not very happy with Micro$oft’s product, especially 10 (have you
>>> actually tried to install 10?  I have.  Goodness, talk about a step back
>>> into pre-history!  It refused to install because there was a CHANCE that it
>>> wouldn’t boot – even though I had just proven that it WOULD boot in that
>>> configuration – and no way to override their ‘help’!)
>>>
>>> So, for me, its ‘buy the most powerful, RAM-loaded system I can manage
>>> (with SSD if possible), and install Linux Mint.
>>>
>>> But that’s just me ;-)
>>>
>>> *From:* PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] *On
>>> Behalf Of *David Schwartz
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:23 PM
>>> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
>>> *Subject:* Re:

Re: Good Cheap PC to play MP3s and MP4 video? (Was: OT Mac Mini obsolescent?)

[Bob Elzer]

Why not just buy a google chromecast.

Then you can send anything you want to it. You could get a chromebook (lots
of cheap ones) or send it from most phones (Android phones are linux). You
can even cast from a google home mini.

Google Chromecast $35
Google Home mini.   $30 currently (requires internet)
Chromebook  $100-$400

You could get all 3 for under $200

Does the church have wifi?  if not, you'd have to add that in.



On Dec 6, 2017 10:46 AM, "Victor Odhner"  wrote:

> OK, I’ve decided on Linux. (No longer OT*!*)
>
> I need recommendations on an adequate PC to run stereo music and videos
> (1920x1080 projector) for a church.
>
> I decided that Linux would be best to ensure that we can have good
> performance and up-to-date software for this well-defined application. We
> wouldn’t be at the mercy of Apple or Microsoft dragging us around a sharp
> corner. My main backup guy has been using Linux (Mint, like me) for some
> years, and the apps are basic enough that our other users would be
> comfortable.
>
> I’d like to keep this as cheap as reasonable, concentrating on solid
> quality (e.g. really adequate power supply) so that we wouldn’t have to
> worry about it for 5 to 10 years. I’d want all parts to be brand new, or
> almost.
>
> Is there still a Linux systems store in the Valley? Should I just put
> together a box with parts from Fry’s or the Web?
>
> Hey, is there someone out there who would like to give me a quote for an
> assembled box? (I have kb, monitor and mouse.)
>
> Thanks,
> Victor
> _
>
> On 20171130, at 14:55, Stephen Partington  wrote:
>
> well if you are looking to maintain portability you can look at the Intel
> NUC. but really this relies entirely on what your budget is.
>
> Looking at your existing application Digital Performer installs on Windows
> or OSX, also you can look into the Hackintosh. there are some build guides
> out there that run with a fully tested hardware configs to consider.
>
> But the Mac mini is a viable system even with the age of the device.
>
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Carruth, Rusty  > wrote:
>
>> I’m not very happy with Micro$oft’s product, especially 10 (have you
>> actually tried to install 10?  I have.  Goodness, talk about a step back
>> into pre-history!  It refused to install because there was a CHANCE that it
>> wouldn’t boot – even though I had just proven that it WOULD boot in that
>> configuration – and no way to override their ‘help’!)
>>
>> So, for me, its ‘buy the most powerful, RAM-loaded system I can manage
>> (with SSD if possible), and install Linux Mint.
>>
>> But that’s just me ;-)
>>
>> *From:* PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *David Schwartz
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:23 PM
>> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
>> *Subject:* Re: OT: Mac Mini obsolescent? When next release?
>>
>> I’d be tempted to get an all-in-one Windows machine (most seem to have
>> touch-screens now) or a small iMac.
>>
>> AIO Windows machines are well under $1k.
>>
>> Stick to the KISS principle here. :-)
>>
>> -David Schwartz
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 11:32 AM, Victor Odhner  wrote:
>>
>> Spun off from the Genius discussion:
>>
>> The Apple CEO reportedly says Mini is still part of their product line,
>> but he won’t say anything about the next release.
>>
>> I was another Mini shopper, for supportability and video resolution
>> reasons. Our church music team needs to update a 2009 Mini. I want to get a
>> *new* desktop (laptop wouldn’t fit our config): my goal is to give them
>> hopefully 5+ years of reliable operation. Any comments would be welcome.
>>
>> Now looking at ditching the Mini, going to Windows or Linux to drive our
>> video projector (MPV rocks) and an MP3 player. The Mini is where our
>> Digital Performer lives (music synthesizer), but I’ve converted most of our
>> library to MP3s and I can still use the old Mini if I need to get creative.
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Re: netis wf2118

[Bob Elzer]

doing a grep will not show adjacent lines that have errors on them.

you need to use the less or more commands and search for those same things
and read the lines before and after, to see if there are any errors.

keep searching for the next occurrence, until you reach the end of file


On Aug 25, 2017 1:43 PM, "Michael"  wrote:

> The driver appears to be loading:
>
> $ lsmod| grep rt2x00
> rt2x00pci  13287  1 rt2800pci
> rt2x00mmio 13603  2 rt2800pci,rt2800mmio
> rt2x00lib  55307  5 rt2x00pci,rt2800lib,rt2800pci,
> rt2800mmio,rt2x00mmio
> mac80211  626489  6 rtl_usb,rtlwifi,rt2x00lib,rt2x
> 00pci,rt2800lib,rtl8192cu
> cfg80211  484040  3 mac80211,rtlwifi,rt2x00lib
>
>  and pci-id and RT5362 do not appear in dmesg:
>
>  $ dmesg |grep RT5362
>  $ dmesg |grep pci-id
>  $
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Michael  wrote:
>
>> $ iwconfig
>> lono wireless extensions.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 7:57 AM, Michael  wrote:
>>
>>> iwconfig doesn't see it
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Michael Butash 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Need to make sure the system sees it as a usable network device.  Do:

 iwconfig  ## verifies if the system sees it as a proper 802.11 device,
 and/or ap association
 ip link  ## sees the nic as a real interface
 ip addr  ## shows ip layer data, if it has an address
 cat /var/log/syslog | grep NetworkManager  ## verfies if
 network-manager is trying to do anything with it

 Also, does the systray applet show the network scanning for any wifi
 devices?  You should see *some* ssid's being found.

 -mb

 On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Michael  wrote:

> or more as it is being detected just not transmitting data. what
> should I do?
>
> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Michael  wrote:
>
>> lspci sees SOMETHING at least. It says
>> 03:00.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. RT5362 PCI 802.11n Wireless
>> Network Adapter
>>
>> so it is detected.
>>
>> The card in the other computer is almost identical It is pci-e wile
>> the one not being detected is a pci card.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Michael Butash 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Look at the pci devices with lspci, grep for network devices:
>>>
>>> >> lspci | grep Network
>>> >> 02:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac
>>> Wireless Network Adapter (rev 32)
>>>
>>> You should see a like device there, your new card.  If it's not
>>> being detected properly, search dmesg output looking for an unknown 
>>> device,
>>> might be a firmware thing or something.  Dmesg should at least tell you
>>> what pci-id, vendor, or model of chip to then google why that doesn't 
>>> load
>>> under your os.
>>>
>>> -mb
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Michael  wrote:
>>>
 I got two wireless cards (netis wf2118) for two computers. both
 computers have mint. One card is pci the other pci-e. the pci-e card 
 works
 great. the pci not so much. the green connectivity light on the pci 
 card is
 happily a solid green. Any ideas on how to get it to work?

 I just googled it and the one hit I got said he had a dead card.
 How can I tell if it is dead?

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Re: Cheap Domain Renewals

[Bob Elzer]

Try google domains, $12 a year
I think it's great

On Aug 14, 2017 12:31 PM, "JD Austin"  wrote:

> Namecheap has been great for me.
> I don't use any of the 'value added' features from Godaddy so I don't
> know.
> As they come up to expire I'm migrating my domains away from Godaddy.
>
> -- JD Austin
> Voice: 480.269.4335 <(480)%20269-4335> (480 2MY Geek)
> j...@twingeckos.com
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Mark Phillips <
> m...@phillipsmarketing.biz> wrote:
>
>> I have a number of domains registered with GoDaddy, and the renewal
>> prices are getting expensive - ~$20 for .biz, .com, .org, etc. I have
>> always used GoDaddy, but the price of renewals leads me to look for another
>> registrar. I don't use any of the hosting services or any other services
>> from GoDaddy - just domain name registration.
>>
>> I googled cheap domain name renewal, and stumbled on CheapNames (
>> https://www.namecheap.com/domains/transfer.aspx).
>>
>> Anyone use this service? Am I missing some value added services from
>> GoDaddy as a domain registrar that I will regret not having at CheapNames?
>>
>> Should I look at another domain registrar beyond CheapNames?
>>
>> Before I do a bulk transfer of my domains (~50) to CheapNames, I wanted
>> to make sure people have had good experiences with this registrar.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Mark
>>
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Re: YouTube TV streaming in Phx today ...

[Bob Elzer]

thats ok, by then we can all get Google fiber and say goodbye to cable

On Jul 22, 2017 9:18 AM, "Michael Butash"  wrote:

> This is why Cox has now imposed a 1.5tb bandwidth cap on users.  They know
> everyone is cutting off their overpriced video, and now they're going to
> charge you for the massive bandwidth that things like netflix use to recoup
> some of that.  Nothing is "free", so caveat emptor.
>
> Case in point, my aunt pinged me when Cox sent her the threat of overage
> charges, where she really only does tv streaming.  She was at least a 1tb
> over their "normal" limit now, and would be charged accordingly.  Only
> things she really does is use Netflix and Vue for tv, but apparently enough
> bandwith to exceed their cap, and she doesn't even do 4k content or have
> kids soaking it up, where many do.  I can only imagine the bandwidth needs
> with a house full of kids doing the same, plus gaming and everything else...
>
> Still cheaper than paying for cable tv, but I presume their charging will
> only rapidly escalate to offset their dying video/telephony services and
> lack of anything else they can really charge for.  Since every other
> carrier is dogpiling in to slaughter and feast on the corpse of net
> neutrality, Cox decided in their own interests to hop on he bandwagon too.
> Thanks for all the fish, Trump.
>
> -mb
>
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Saul  wrote:
>
>> I prefer Playstation Vue.
>>
>> On 7/20/2017 5:00 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote:
>>
>>> Just signed up for YouTube TV streaming today
>>> and cancelled DirecTV Now. YouTube is far,
>>> far superior in every way plus unlimited DVR.
>>>
>>>
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Re: Why are all these files created and saved?

[Bob Elzer]

they are probably used to open your pdf files faster, see how long it takes
to open a big pdf after you remove them all, then see how long it takes on
subsequent opens.

if you have plenty of ram make a ramdisk and  create a symbolic link of
that directory to the ramdisk, then they all go away when you shut down.

If this is an SSD, then I would definitely do that to save on wear and tear.



On Jul 11, 2017 5:21 PM,  wrote:

> Thanks to all who responded re my okular question.
>
> I conclude from the responses that there would be no
> harm done by deleting all those files. So that answers
> the most important part of my question. I'm still curious
> why those files are created in the first place and what,
> if any, benefit they have.
>
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RE: Best way to shrink size of video? - Thanks!

[Bob Elzer]

This is the command I use to convert to x265 video
Recently  it converted a 964mb video to 17.2mb, x265 looks the best in my
opinion.

To convert to x264 the command is different and the same file shrunk to
23.9mb

It really depends on the type of video you're converting on how it looks
after.

The video was 8 minutes and on my AMD 8 core, it took 7 minutes to convert
to x265 and
5 minutes to convert to x264

ffmpeg -i fireworks.mp4 -c:v libx265  -force_key_frames
"expr:gte(t,n_forced*5)" -x265-params crf=28 -x265-params log-level=none
 -c:a ac3 -b:a 192k  -preset ultrafast -strict experimental -loglevel fatal
-stats  fireworks-x265-ultrafast-ac3.mp4

Hope this helps


On Jul 10, 2017 10:52 AM,  wrote:

> Thanks Rusty!
>
> Rusty Ramser wrote: Examples...
> > Simply convert the existing video from MOV to MP4.
> > ffmpeg.exe -i IMG_0551.MOV -c:a copy copy.mp4
> >
> > Convert from MOV to MP4 and also scale it to 1280x720
> > (don't know what the original resolution was, but you
> > get the idea; replace with 480 if you want even smaller).
> > ffmpeg.exe -i IMG_0551.MOV -c:a copy -vf scale=-1:720 copy.mp4
> >
> > If original resolution is slightly non-standard and not
> > evenly divisible by 2 and you're getting errors with the
> > above command, this one gets around odd resolutions.
> > ffmpeg.exe -i IMG_0551.MOV -c:a copy -vf "scale=1280:trunc(ow/a/2)*2"
> > copy.mp4
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Re: Hackers leaked 32 terabytes of secret Windows 10 code

[Bob Elzer]

I have a new OS coming out soon, it's not based on linux.
It's called Bob Windows 11.0

Anyone want to try it

:-p. lol


On Jun 25, 2017 11:55 AM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:

> yeah, thats the danger, now isn't it. looks like we need to be promoting
> Linux and the BSD's a lot more folks. Considering things, we have a lot
> less security issues (although there are some, admittedly).
>
> -eric
>
> On Jun 25, 2017, at 11:01 AM, Matthew Crews wrote:
>
> Running Windows 7 is a mixed bag though, from a security perspective.
> Wasn't it fully affected by WannaCry while Windows 10 was immune? Besides
> this leak will probably make it easy to port any win10 exploits to Win7 and
> Win8.
>
> On Sun, Jun 25, 2017, 10:44 Eric Oyen  wrote:
>
>> its a very good thing that I didn't upgrade to win10 on the windows
>> machine. win7 is still stable, although it is getting a little long in the
>> tooth.
>>
>> whats even funnier, the ubuntu instance here on the mac is still 14.04
>> LTS and it has had NO ISSUES. Its nice to dual boot this mac once in a
>> while into linux and have some things actually work right. then again, OS X
>> just works on its own. :)
>>
>> -eric
>>
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>>
>> On Jun 25, 2017, at 6:12 AM, Matthew Crews wrote:
>>
>> Also not looking good for their Windows 10 S. It was found that Word
>> macros could crack it's security wide open. (That also says a lot about how
>> not secure MS Office is).
>>
>> Expect to see lots of zero day exploits as a result of this.
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 24, 2017, 23:26 Herminio Hernandez, Jr. <
>> herminio.hernande...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I saw this yesterday. It is pretty interesting.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 11:12 PM, Eric Oyen 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 didn't MS claim they were more secure recently? sounds like they are
 about as secure as a screen door on a submarine.

 -eric

 On Jun 24, 2017, at 6:00 PM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote:

 Thought you might find this interesting.

 http://www.businessinsider.com/windows-10-source-code-leak-2017-6


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Re: transparent dns proxy

[Bob Elzer]

Look here https://www.dnsleaktest.com/what-is-transparent-dns-proxy.html

On Jun 4, 2017 6:36 AM, "Michael"  wrote:

> anyone know how to defeat a 'transparent dns proxy'?
>
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Re: accessible web-authoring system

[Bob Elzer]

I did not know about bluefish, thanks for that tip.

On Apr 28, 2017 10:57 PM, "Steve Litt"  wrote:

> I don't understand the question.
>
> Is the OP looking for a web-authoring software that can be operated by
> a blind person, or is he looking for a web authoring software that
> produces web pages readable by blind people?
>
> Either way, I have a feeling Bluefish might be a good way to go. I
> imagine the text you type could be read by a screen reader. I'm less
> sure whether the little helpful popups with tag syntax could be read by
> a screen reader.
>
> I've been using Bluefish about 5 years, ever since my last WYSIWYG HTML
> authoring tool went bad. I'd never go back to WYSIWYG because now I'm
> in charge of my HTML, I make clean HTML, and I even check that it's
> well formed XML before putting it on the web. My stuff renders pretty
> much the same on all full featured browsers. As I remember, every time
> I put in an  tag, Bluefish asks me for an alt property.
>
> HTH,
>
> SteveT
>
> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 05:08:06 + (UTC)
> "der.hans"  wrote:
>
> > Am 28. Apr, 2017 schwätzte Eric Oyen so:
> >
> > moin moin Eric,
> >
> > please pass the message along. I'm personally interested in knowing
> > about an accessible content management system in addition to knowing
> > someone with a specific need.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > ciao,
> >
> > der.hans
> >
> > > mind if I forward this over to the Blinux Redhat list?
> > >
> > > -eric
> > > from the central office of the Technomage Guild, random thoughts
> > > Dept.
> > >
> > > On Apr 28, 2017, at 12:32 PM, der.hans wrote:
> > >
> > >> moin moin,
> > >>
> > >> anyone have experience with an accessible Free Software
> > >> web-authoring system?
> > >>
> > >> A friend works in accessibiilty ( all sorts of physical and mental
> > >> handicaps ) and is asking for a recommendation.
> > >>
> > >> I presume Drupal, Joomla! and WordPress have plugins to help, but
> > >> I have no experience. The closest thing I have to experience is
> > >> demos from some blind guys using emacs for their own
> > >> infrastructure. Amazing, but not the first thing to suggest.
> > >>
> > >> ciao,
> > >>
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RE: GNU/Linux

[Bob Elzer]

Linux is the engine, GNU is the toolbox

On Apr 29, 2017 4:23 PM, "Keith Smith"  wrote:

>
> Interesting...  Do programmers burnout more than any other profession?
>
> If there is a contributing factor it is the constant change that requires
> regular learning and adapting.
>
> I've seen a lot of changes.  In 1983 I learned how to program using punch
> cards.  Then there was the single line editors.  I experienced the
> evolution of xBase - dBaseII, dBaseIII, dBaseIII+ on 8088 cpu's with no
> hard drive.  Later Clipper summer of 87 (that was the actual version name),
> FoxBASE+, all the FoxPro's - DOS, Windows, and Visual.  Then the web came
> along.  Learning Linux, Apache, MySql, PHP and all that goes with that.  In
> the early days of the web - (10 years ago) it was PHP right on the iron...
> not any more. It is open source apps and frameworks.
>
> Always fighting the beast.
>
> In the late 80's I happened into a business that was using a Commodore 64
> to do their accounting and inventory control.  At that time that was state
> of the art.
>
>
>
>
> On 2017-04-29 13:47, Carruth, Rusty wrote:
>
>> Huh.  I thought the reason programmers (or whatever you want to call
>> them) get grey hairs and burn out was some combination of:
>>
>> 1 - they are hopelessly optimistic, and so GROSSLY underestimate EVERY
>> project's effort.  Managers like the short estimates and don't adjust
>> based upon reality.  When the deadline nears, the software person
>> works more and more hours to try to meet the deadline, which goes
>> whizzing past at a high rate of speed.  More hours/week and more
>> effort (which brings with it more mistakes and slower progress)...
>> until the project is finally done (ish) and the next cycle begins.
>>
>> (Well, yes, I was a software developer for most of my professional
>> life, why do you ask? ;-)
>>
>> 2 - they tend to work much more than 40 hours per week.  (80, 90,
>> sometimes more)
>>
>> 3 - old age ;-)
>>
>> Rusty
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On
>> Behalf Of IscreamKid
>> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 8:36 PM
>> To: Main PLUG discussion list
>> Subject: Re: GNU/Linux
>>
>> Hmmm, technically not quite right.
>>
>> First there was UNIX which split off to BSD.
>> Linus emulated UNIX on a PC.
>> A kernel is the interface between the hardware and the operating system.
>> Each machine with different hardware needs a different kernel to mate
>> with the hardware.
>> Each operating system needs a different interface to match the
>> operating system's requirements / design.
>> Android has totally different hardware platform compared to a PC,
>> compared to a Mac, compared to a DEC, or whatever.
>> If the programmer writes his interface to function like Linux but
>> match each different platform's hardware then you can the Linux OS
>> utilities and such on that hardware platform. They will be the same,
>> functionally, if the programmer fully implements the complete
>> interface.
>> Practically, there is almost always something that is or has to be
>> done differently.
>>
>> That is why programmers get gray hairs and burn out.
>>
>> On Apr 28, 2017, at 16:10, Michael  wrote:
>>>
>>> I think I understand it now There is GNU/Linux and there is
>>> Android/Linux and whatever other operating system that needs a
>>> kernel/Linux. Right?
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Re: Rsync ran like 30-40 minutes

[Bob Elzer]

Can an admin of the mailing list please delete these posts with the
personal private information.

Anyone replying to this topic, please remove the quoted text with the
private info.

Michael, please be careful when you post things like this.

As for the problem, I really think you would be better off doing your
backups to an external hard drive, flash drives will not last as long as a
hard drive, and you seem to have very bad luck with flash drives.

As for what you are backing up I believe you want to save all your
photography, so I'm not sure you need to be backing up the source for
darktable everytime, as that is already available on the net.

An lastly I think you should use the --delete flag not the --delete-before

If you delete all the files before the copying starts then if the copy
stops at any point those backups are gone, yes they will still be gone
after full Sync runs, but if you delete a directory by mistake on the
original, during the copy you might notice it's deleting something you
don't want to lose and you can kill it before it deletes everything from
that directory and recover whatever is still on the backup drive.

I'm not sure you are gaining much with the --delete-before flag
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Re: Opinions on tablets....

[Bob Elzer]

This one is pretty good, a little bulky, but good response 2gb memory, 64gb
flash, 1.5ghz Not 1.3
1900x1200 6.0 Marshmallow and 12 inch screen with keyboard

And it's at walmart

On Apr 5, 2017 3:55 PM, "Matthew Crews"  wrote:

> I agree, if all you want to use a tablet for is a portable picture
> portfolio, any tablet will do at all. Pick one with a large screen and a
> high resolution (like iPad or Samsung Galaxy Tab) that is within your budget
>
> If you want to do more with it, though, I'd consider a nice hybrid laptop.
> Things like the HP Pavilion or Asus Flipbook will get you more bang for the
> buck. No idea if Linux is installable on them, but if they are, all the
> better.
>
> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, 15:38 Brian Cluff  wrote:
>
>> No.  While android uses a Linux kernel, it uses completely different
>> apps, so if you are expecting to run any of the software that you are
>> currently using on your desktop, you might want to re-think what you are
>> doing and make sure you have some software that will do what you need to do.
>>
>> If all you want to do is display images; vanilla android will be able to
>> do that for you.
>>
>> Brian Cluff
>>
>>
>> On 04/05/2017 03:29 PM, Michael wrote:
>>
>> Hey the os on the asus is android. Does that mean I'll be able to use
>> apt-get?
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Michael  wrote:
>>
>> Yeah? I think I'll get this one then.
>>
>> ASUS 9.7" ZenPad 3S 10 64GB Tablet
>> 
>>
>> Any dissenters?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 6:17 PM, Stephen Partington 
>> wrote:
>>
>> So that listing of tablets at B&H also includes actual stylus tablets.
>>
>> However, Those 64gb ASUS ZenPads are pretty nice and have very nice
>> screen and that will be what you want most.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Michael  wrote:
>>
>> I need something to carry a photograph portfolio around on for display to
>> clients. Of the tablets that b&h carries which would you recommend?
>> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?ci=1747&N=4005352859+4292342948
>>
>> I also was considering an ipad.
>> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/iPads-Media-Tablets/ci/
>> 16688/N/4229247068?origSearch=tablet
>>
>> Or perhaps an asus.
>> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?&ci=16688&N=4229247068+4291626238&;
>> origSearch=asus%20tablet
>>
>> It would be super-great if someone would happen to know of something
>> better which I haven't found. What program would you recommend for the
>> device to display the photographs with? (pay for or not)
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Re: OT: Need a Campaign to Secure WIFI Sites

[Bob Elzer]

I don't think Victor was trying to create spyware, he was just trying to
come up with a way to stop identity theft.

But unfortunately that is a task not easily solved, too many restrictions
and people wont use it, and if it takes away privacy they won't use it . If
its complicated, guess what, they won't use it.

While most users know about the dangers of the internet, there are far too
many that don't know what to do about it.

People still get sunburn because they don't use sunscreen, and that isn't
complicated.

Education is the answer, but some still won't understand and others will
still say its too complicated. Its a catch 22.

On Mar 23, 2017 2:51 PM, "Vara La Fey"  wrote:

> First you were talking about open hotspots. Then you were talking about
> https. Now you are talking about ssl.
>
> But all the while you're still just talking about monitoring and
> restricting the activity of 3rd parties on 4th party systems. And it seems
> really important to you for some reason.
>
> Please, waste time and effort and money patenting your *spyware *chaperone
> system that monitors web activity with the intent of *creating
> consequences *for activity which you - or your intended customer - opines
> is "invalid". I doubt very many people will buy into it because there is no
> upside for them. Even when they alter it to fit their own agenda, they just
> anger their customers who can click OK for EULAs and enter logins, but
> cannot bypass your 3 Minute Hate.
>
> If it can detect an "invalid" certificate, then by changing a couple code
> lines (if even), it can detect anything else about an attempted site visit.
> Of course this ability is ancient now, but less evil implementations of it
> merely censor by blocking, which is bad enough. Yours is "educational" -
> and it's interesting that *you *put the quotes around that word yourself
> - for the purpose of taking up other people's time with propaganda.
>
> If it became common, it would become a mandatory advertising medium
> anytime anyone clicked on a competitor's site, or a site with bad reviews
> for your customer. If it became law, it would become a mandatory propaganda
> delivery system anytime anyone clicked on a site containing any kind of
> dissenting viewpoint.
>
> Are you hoping to create one of those conditions? If so, which?
>
> Because this sure looks like more than just wanting to manipulate lesser
> people into a system designed to reinforce your wishful feelings of
> superiority. There has to be a more compelling reason that you're this
> overly concerned about what 3rd parties do on 4th party systems.
>
> Which, btw, brings up the fact that your system is not equivalent to EULAs
> or logins or pay systems, because the connection provider has the right to
> set conditions for using their connection. Your spyware idea is to harass
> people who are using *other people's* connections.
>
> I'm not an expert on web connection technology per se, but it seems that
> Tor would nicely wire around all SSL issues after the initial connection to
> the now-restricted hotspot. You certainly make a great case for using it,
> even if just on general principle. So what would you do about that?
>
> I don't think your grandmother wants you monitoring her activity. I don't
> think *anyone *wants you monitoring their activity. But you seem to want
> to do it anyway. And no one but me is saying boo to you.  :-(
>
> As to the trivia: I personally have never had trouble from visiting a site
> with an "invalid certificate" of any kind, because that stuff simply isn't
> 100% maintained. Obviously I am careful where I go and what I click and
> download anyway. I do not so easily ignore "known malware site" warnings,
> and if in doubt about a site I reflexively check the web address.
> MyBank.Phishing.com and Phishing.com/MyBank do not get clicks from me.
> But that's all beside the point.
>
>
> On 3/20/2017 9:57 PM, Brien Dieterle wrote:
>
> On Mar 20, 2017 3:36 PM, "Vara La Fey"  wrote:
>
> OMG!!
>
> First of all, you'd be mis-educating them if telling them that certificate
> "validity" has any real meaning. (But now you're talking about http.)
>
> I mean validity as in trusted roots that have been shipped with your OS or
> browser.  Surely you don't mean these are meaningless. AFAIK they are very
> reliable as long as you never accept bogus certs.  If you accept bogus
> certs "all the time", I really hope you know what you're doing.  Pretty
> much any important site should have working SSL.
>
> There is a reason why all the browsers freak out when you get a bad cert,
> but users still click "add exception".  My captive education portal would
> give real consequence to this with the 3 minute power point slideshow and
> mandatory quiz.  I wonder if this is already patented. . .
>
> Second, why do you think you have any right to put speed bumps in the way
> of people who are doing nothing to you?
>
> Plenty of businesses do this already for captive portals and forcing use

Re: OT: Need a Campaign to Secure WIFI Sites

[Bob Elzer]

And what would you do for venues like stadium's ?
People expect free wifi in those places, posting the password on a wall
wouldn't work.

It the responsibility of the user to protect themselves, and we all know
how that works out.

Kinda like telling people don't have unprotected sex.

On Mar 20, 2017 12:51 PM, "Anon Anon"  wrote:

> I'm not sure how their router being open would affect you...? Bad actors
> can just ask for the password too. So what are you defending against?
>
> On Mar 20, 2017 12:30 PM, "Victor Odhner"  wrote:
>
>> I’m really annoyed that so many companies offer open WIFI when it would
>> be so easy to secure those hot spots.
>>
>> Restaurants, hotels, and the waiting rooms of auto dealerships are almost
>> 100% open.
>>
>> I am not one to say “there ought to be a law” because we have too many
>> doggone laws, and I’m not that into a lot of demonstrating and yelling. But
>> I would love to help educate companies on why they should secure their
>> routers.
>>
>> If I were a progressive type, I’d suggest putting stickers on those
>> venues saying:
>>
>> We don’t have passwords on our WIFI
>> because OUR WIFI (and YOUR passwords)
>> should be available to everybody
>> with no effort!
>>
>> But being more right-wing, I’d much rather recognize that they’d be happy
>> to do the right thing if we could explain it to the right people.
>>
>> I’ve repeatedly thanked the mechanic shop I use (C&R Tire on Tatum)
>> because they have a key posted and I can feel sort of safe going online
>> while I wait for an oil change. But all the places that have open routers
>> are corporate owned so it does no good to gripe to the folks behind the
>> desk.
>>
>> Any ideas on this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Victor
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Stallman was Right

[Bob Elzer]

They were probably just seeing into the future. Lol

On Mar 8, 2017 12:39 PM, "Anon Anon"  wrote:

> Remember the good old days when people who believed their tv was watching
> them were crazy?
>
> On Mar 8, 2017 12:23 PM, "Matthew Crews"  wrote:
>
>> Many smart TVs these days have built in cameras and microphones...
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017, 12:21 Bob Elzer  wrote:
>>
>>> Well they are welcome to listen in on me. But I don't have a listening
>>> device, they are welcome to send me on of those 65" Samsung devices, I'll
>>> make room for it.
>>>
>>> Are you reading this guy's ?
>>>
>>> On Mar 7, 2017 5:52 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:
>>>
>>> yeah, you are right there. However, they will have to eventually justify
>>> those expenses, so the more expensive we make it for them, the more likely
>>> it is that they may be forced to give up and let us have more secure
>>> products.
>>>
>>> one other point to offer, we might end up having to file an FOIA request
>>> to get the source code for all of these malware tools. then we could take
>>> them apart, figure out how to disarm them and create more secure linux
>>> devices. Then again, one can dream. :)
>>>
>>> -eric
>>> From the central office of the Technomage Guild
>>> special office: cyber security
>>>
>>> On Mar 7, 2017, at 5:27 PM, Anon Anon wrote:
>>>
>>> We could start a movement or group but they spend a lot of money
>>> infiltrating those groups. There isnt a lot of ways to reliably compete
>>> against their tactics
>>>
>>> On Mar 7, 2017 17:07, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:
>>>
>>> OMFG!
>>> *sigh* leave it to bureaucrats to completely foul things up as usual.
>>> Now, had this come out some 20 years ago, people would have thought it to
>>> be in the realm of science fiction. oh wait, there was one such film:
>>> swordfish!
>>>
>>> perhaps its time we all started a consortium to combat this? I would
>>> rather see a secure system that requires multiple levels of security than
>>> this.
>>>
>>> -eric
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>>> Special office: cyber security.
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Re: Stallman was Right

[Bob Elzer]

Well they are welcome to listen in on me. But I don't have a listening
device, they are welcome to send me on of those 65" Samsung devices, I'll
make room for it.

Are you reading this guy's ?

On Mar 7, 2017 5:52 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:

> yeah, you are right there. However, they will have to eventually justify
> those expenses, so the more expensive we make it for them, the more likely
> it is that they may be forced to give up and let us have more secure
> products.
>
> one other point to offer, we might end up having to file an FOIA request
> to get the source code for all of these malware tools. then we could take
> them apart, figure out how to disarm them and create more secure linux
> devices. Then again, one can dream. :)
>
> -eric
> From the central office of the Technomage Guild
> special office: cyber security
>
> On Mar 7, 2017, at 5:27 PM, Anon Anon wrote:
>
> We could start a movement or group but they spend a lot of money
> infiltrating those groups. There isnt a lot of ways to reliably compete
> against their tactics
>
> On Mar 7, 2017 17:07, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:
>
>> OMFG!
>> *sigh* leave it to bureaucrats to completely foul things up as usual.
>> Now, had this come out some 20 years ago, people would have thought it to
>> be in the realm of science fiction. oh wait, there was one such film:
>> swordfish!
>>
>> perhaps its time we all started a consortium to combat this? I would
>> rather see a secure system that requires multiple levels of security than
>> this.
>>
>> -eric
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>> Special office: cyber security.
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Re: I'm trying to get some information on a domain...

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whereis is the command that tells you where in your file system a file
resides.

On Mar 2, 2017 4:57 AM, "Michael"  wrote:

> ... mostly I want to know where they are.
> I tried 'whereis' but that didn't give me any information.
>  $ whereis 360cities.uservoice.com
>  360cities.uservoice:
> What should I try now?
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Re: (OT) Backup Software Suggestions

[Bob Elzer]

Plus dd would copy all the unused sectors on the disk

On Jan 27, 2017 10:00 AM, "Matt Graham"  wrote:

> On 2017-01-26 17:05, Eric Oyen wrote:
>
>> why not just use dd and a sufficiently large backup device connected
>> directly to the machine? [...] Basically, I just image the entire
>> device. It's easier to restore that way.
>>
>
> dd is usually not a good way to back things up because of speed.  "dd
> if=/dev/mapper/vg-home of=/dev/disk/by-id/usb-123456 bs=1M" would take 90
> minutes every time it ran because it's transferring 300ishG.  "rsync -av
> --delete-after /home/ /mnt/backup1/home/" usually takes 2-5 minutes because
> it's only transferring the files that have changed, which is usually
> 150-500M or so.
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Re: (OT) Backup Software Suggestions

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for bare metal backup I use REAR(Relax and Recover) along with fsarchiver

REAR can make iso files or make a bootable flash drive

fsarchiver is like tar, but it can recreate the filesystem too.
also if the archive is corrupt, you olny lose the one file, not the whole
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Re: micro sd card reader

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Mike, you seem to have a lot of trouble with backups and flash drives, I'm
thinking your backing up way too much stuff for your little flash drive.

I know flash drives have gotten better, but if your data is important to
you and you have a lot of it, I think you should buy a hard drive and an
external enclosure.

Flash drives and ssd's will eventually wear out, and if that is the only
thing you are backing up to, when it dies, for the most part that data is
gone except for the original copy, providing the original is still there.

If you have data that changes, it is never good to just back it up to the
same place every time.

My recommendation is to buy a 1TB HDD and a USB enclosure and do your rsync
to that and after the rsync is done make a tar.tgz backup of the rsynced
directory.

My scenario is this.

Every night I rsync my important stuff to a drive running in the machine so
for instance

rsync /livedata/website  /backupdrive/website
tar -gz /backupdrive/website /backupdrive/website-daily-mmddyy.tgz

I have ones for weekly and monthly too, they get purged after so many days

and either weekly or monthly I hook up my external drive and do an rsync to
it

rsync /backupdrive  /externaldrive

one of the things I backup is my OS, I don't think I make changes as much
as you do, but if I make a change and it screws something up and I don't
catch for a couple of days, I can go back to one of the older backups and
restore the good files.

It all depends on how much data you have and how important that data is to
you.

If all you're doing is scanning a bunch of pictures, then just burn them to
dvd and your done, but if you have a photography business and you keep
adding pictures and and editing pictures, then invest in a large HDD and
make multiple copies, becaues mistakes do happen.

and automate the procedure, don't just keep doing these things manually,
you don't want a typo erasing everything, put the commands in a script and
maybe run them in cron.

Hope this helps.

Bob

On Jan 4, 2017 11:50 AM, "Michael"  wrote:

> Well then I think it is bad. I got two cards and neither of them work.
> This is what I was doing rsync with before. Can I get a recomendation on a
> card that works well... who bought a reader that has lasted longer than a
> year?
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Re: How to send email from dolphin?

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Did you make a mistake or were you trying to do it on porpoise ?

On Nov 26, 2016 5:29 PM,  wrote:

> How can I configure dolphin to use gmail instead of kmail
> to send an image viewed with dolphin?
>
> AND/OR what do I need to do to configure kmail to use it.
>
> Please refer to the screenshot(s) here:
> http://www.upquick.com/temp/dolphin2kmail2.jpg
>
> As you can see, when I right-click on an image, and tap
> "Actions" one of the options is to "Send as Email Attachment"
> and that causes kmail to open with the target image attached.
>
> But when I try to send the attached image via email, I am
> then prompted to "Create Outgoing Account - KMail" and I cannot
> find any instructions on how to do that.
>
> In any case, I would prefer to be able to use Gmail instead of Kmail.
>
> How can I get one or the other to work?
>
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Re: text on picture

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I use a sharpie.

On Nov 6, 2016 7:21 PM, "Michael"  wrote:

> I want to label some pictures. How would I do it and   not have a text
> box, just the letters?
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Re: VPN Assistance

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Find one you can sign up  for a lifetime fee.

Android authority web page lists them sometimes.

I went with VPN unlimited for $40 lifetime fee.

Haven't had any problems with them.

On Oct 3, 2016 1:09 PM,  wrote:

> I am told by some friends that I need to get a VPN service.
>
> I have researched many on the web. Some free and some paid for.
> Though my needs are simple (for home and cell phone use) I am willing to
> pay a fee if it works.
>
> Any one have any thoughts or suggestions.
>
> Thank you
>
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Re: HP software now self-destructs in printers

[Bob Elzer]

They should be made to state this on the printer and box in bold writing.
This printer locks out all cartridges that aren't brand new HP cartridges.

See how fast their sales would drop then.

On Sep 28, 2016 11:05 AM, "Keith Smith"  wrote:

>
>
>
> http://www.zdnet.com/article/hp-told-disarm-printer-ink-self
> -destruct-sequence-blocking-third-party-cartridges/
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Re: Landscape on Ubuntu 16.04

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Ahh, OK thanks.

I don't follow Ubuntu much, I prefer centos.

But I still think the name is dumb, its too commonly used for printing and
screen properties.

Maybe call it Managescape ,  they can have that, I just made it up.

:)

On Sep 20, 2016 11:34 AM, "Stephen Partington"  wrote:

> http://www.ubuntu.com/management/working-with-landscape
>
> Its a management service.
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Bob Elzer  wrote:
>
>> Did they really name this version landscape?
>>
>> I really think that was a dumb idea
>>
>> My first thought was turn the screen sideways. Lol
>>
>> On Sep 18, 2016 11:15 AM, "Stephen Partington" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Finally updated so it will run on ubuntu 16.04.
>>
>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/549809/how-do-i-install-lands
>> cape-for-personal-use
>>
>> this is taking a while on my little server :-)
>>
>>
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>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
>>
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Re: Landscape on Ubuntu 16.04

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Did they really name this version landscape?

I really think that was a dumb idea

My first thought was turn the screen sideways. Lol

On Sep 18, 2016 11:15 AM, "Stephen Partington"  wrote:

Finally updated so it will run on ubuntu 16.04.

http://askubuntu.com/questions/549809/how-do-i-install-landscape-for-
personal-use

this is taking a while on my little server :-)


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Re: Label

[Bob Elzer]

Just a thought, but not counting the flash drive,  what are the size of
your disks?

I usually use a backup drive bigger than all my drives, that way I can keep
older versions of my backups.

I do a daily rsync of my data files and then tar them to a single file.

Plus I make an fsarchiver copy of the OS drive.

This way if I mess something up and a backup happens before I realize it, I
can get an older good copy.

On Sep 16, 2016 5:24 AM, "Michael"  wrote:

> I was sitting here considering how one names drives. I did it once but it
> was at least a year ago and my memory is bad (at it's best). And so I was
> going to google 'name filesystem' or something like that when that little
> voice inside my head cried out 'label'. So I opened a terminal and 'apropos
> label' and discovered that little voice inside my head can sometimes be
> right!
>
> Anyways, there are a few options I could use. I still want to retain msdos
> properties so I can switch it between machines and. wait! This is for
> my backup drive on a 64gig sd card. So I can make it a linux filesystem!
> So then:
>
> first make a partition on the device with cfdisk (ref linux fromscratch)
> then
>
>  mkfs.ext2  -L
>
> Do I need to do anything else because of the size of the card?
> Should I do a different filesystem type?
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Re: I think I was hacked....

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Then i don't think you were hacked, I think you typed something wrong and
wound up there.

It wasn't clear the you wound up at an external web page.

I thought you pasted that log on that website

On Sep 15, 2016 7:22 AM, "Michael"  wrote:

> nope. those directories are not on the system.
> I don't actually know what https://paste.ubuntu.com/23179881/ is from.
> All I know is I tried to do a kodi log report and after I hit enter it
> immediately showed that website. As for security I update that computer
> about once a month.
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Bob Elzer  wrote:
>
>> If it really is a minecraft server look for a directory named "world"
>> that contains another directory named "playerdata"
>>
>> There would also be a .jar file in the same directory as world
>>
>> Try   /usr/bin/ls -aCRF | less
>> And search for those directories
>>
>> You could at least find out the date the files were created
>>
>> On Sep 14, 2016 10:01 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:
>>
>>> well,
>>> there might be a way to tell which system utilities got changed. if you
>>> happen to have a spare box, install an identical setup to your current
>>> machine. then do an md5sum on all executables. do the same on your current
>>> box and then on the clean machine, run diff against both generated lists.
>>> you might find out that you have a root kit or trojan or some other malware
>>> in operation.
>>>
>>> Also, it is likely that someone may have found an exploit on your
>>> machine (when was it last updated with security patches?).  This is going
>>> to take a bit of work, but you might just find out what happened.
>>>
>>> I had this type of situation crop up in 2004 when I was using a debian
>>> machine as the house firewall. I thought I had locked everything down and
>>> even sealed off ports with the iptables script I wrote. NOPE! someone found
>>> an exploit and the next thing I knew was that I had several infected
>>> binaries on my system and some invisible process that tried running an
>>> additional networking service I hadn't previously installed.
>>>
>>> teaches me to think I was an expert (I was, but there is always someone
>>> better).
>>>
>>> ah well, its a bit of work, so get cracking.
>>>
>>> -eric (from the offices of the technomage guild).
>>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Michael wrote:
>>>
>>> I think my tvserver was hacked. I finally wrote to the kodi people
>>> because nothing 2 of 3 things weren't working and finally the third thing
>>> stopped working. Here is the message I sent them:
>>> //
>>> primewire has not worked for around 6 months, project free tv stopped
>>> working around 3 months ago and as of yesterday SALTS stopped working.
>>> Apparently I had to put the kodiogfile thing on my computer again and the
>>> log it gave me doesn't look right but here is what it gave me:
>>> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23179881/
>>> the prime wire thing I was told was because I needed the new version of
>>> kodi but I let apt take care of updatin and it hasn't updated yet so I
>>> figured it wasn't ready. PFTV I figured was following primewire and I
>>> just read in the forums how someone has primewire working so I am just
>>> messed up. Can ya help a poor ol soul?
>>>
>>> I just looked at that URL and it is something about minecraft. huh? I
>>> don't play minecraft! and that computer hasn't had minecraft did
>>> someone hack into that box?
>>> \\\
>>> So I turned the computer off, disconnected it from the internet, turned
>>> it back on, and changed my password. Then I reconnect the internet and now
>>> I ask you is there anything else I should do?
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Re: I think I was hacked....

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If it really is a minecraft server look for a directory named "world" that
contains another directory named "playerdata"

There would also be a .jar file in the same directory as world

Try   /usr/bin/ls -aCRF | less
And search for those directories

You could at least find out the date the files were created

On Sep 14, 2016 10:01 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:

> well,
> there might be a way to tell which system utilities got changed. if you
> happen to have a spare box, install an identical setup to your current
> machine. then do an md5sum on all executables. do the same on your current
> box and then on the clean machine, run diff against both generated lists.
> you might find out that you have a root kit or trojan or some other malware
> in operation.
>
> Also, it is likely that someone may have found an exploit on your machine
> (when was it last updated with security patches?).  This is going to take a
> bit of work, but you might just find out what happened.
>
> I had this type of situation crop up in 2004 when I was using a debian
> machine as the house firewall. I thought I had locked everything down and
> even sealed off ports with the iptables script I wrote. NOPE! someone found
> an exploit and the next thing I knew was that I had several infected
> binaries on my system and some invisible process that tried running an
> additional networking service I hadn't previously installed.
>
> teaches me to think I was an expert (I was, but there is always someone
> better).
>
> ah well, its a bit of work, so get cracking.
>
> -eric (from the offices of the technomage guild).
> On Sep 14, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Michael wrote:
>
> I think my tvserver was hacked. I finally wrote to the kodi people because
> nothing 2 of 3 things weren't working and finally the third thing stopped
> working. Here is the message I sent them:
> //
> primewire has not worked for around 6 months, project free tv stopped
> working around 3 months ago and as of yesterday SALTS stopped working.
> Apparently I had to put the kodiogfile thing on my computer again and the
> log it gave me doesn't look right but here is what it gave me:
> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23179881/
> the prime wire thing I was told was because I needed the new version of
> kodi but I let apt take care of updatin and it hasn't updated yet so I
> figured it wasn't ready. PFTV I figured was following primewire and I
> just read in the forums how someone has primewire working so I am just
> messed up. Can ya help a poor ol soul?
>
> I just looked at that URL and it is something about minecraft. huh? I
> don't play minecraft! and that computer hasn't had minecraft did
> someone hack into that box?
> \\\
> So I turned the computer off, disconnected it from the internet, turned it
> back on, and changed my password. Then I reconnect the internet and now I
> ask you is there anything else I should do?
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Re: How to get around a maximum email size limit.

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I agree, email is not the way to distribute large files. Set up a web
server and give your clients accounts that they can use to communicate with
you and download the files, it also makes it easier if they delete them to
get them again.

The you can start thinking of other services to offer and having a web
presence so more people can find you and customers can recommend you.

On Sep 12, 2016 6:33 PM, "Anon Anon"  wrote:

> Email is not the correct format for files that size. Host them on an
> external tool like a webserver or ftp server.
>
> On Sep 12, 2016 6:32 PM, "Michael"  wrote:
>
>> I wrote this email to my email provider and would like to implore the
>> PLUG's brain-trust if they know of a way to do this incase my provider
>> laughs at me.
>>
>> Hi. I would like to discuss your limitation of only allowing an email to
>> be 25MB. I am a photographer and the images I send my clients totals to
>> around 127 MB. I've gotten around your limitation by sending the pictures
>> in multiple emails. Unfortunately that is no longer going to work due to
>> the fact that I am soon going to be producing videos for my clients. Videos
>> , as you may well know, are  MUCH larger than photographs. The only way I
>> see a way around the 25MB limitation is to host the videos on an external
>> website (I'm thinking Google Drive) but I would really much rather give
>> them what they are paying me for. As such I would like for you to increase
>> the maximum allowed size for me.
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RE: 4 cores and 8 threads

[Bob Elzer]

Here's where I may put my foot in my mouth.

If I'm not mistaken programs have to be compiled with a hyperthreading
library in order to take advantage of this.

Or am I wrong?

On Sep 7, 2016 1:27 PM, "Kevin Fries"  wrote:

> I once worked for a company doing ground water modeling for mining
> operations.  The program did a large series of fourier transformation to
> model the water levels over time... No Hyperthreading!!!
>
> Most web servers, mail servers, database servers (depending on your number
> of indexes), are perfectly fine with hyperthreading turned on.
>
> Kevin
>
> On Sep 7, 2016 2:21 PM, "Carruth, Rusty"  wrote:
>
>> Kevin,
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you have a reference to the ‘heavy use by one process on a cpu core
>> can affect any other process’?  (BTW, Affect, not Effect in this case.
>> This is only going to you, regardless of what it looks like, so this is
>> just between me an you unless you reply all, in which case it goes global,
>> as it were)
>>
>>
>>
>> In any case, what little experimenting I did a while back indicated that,
>> when Intel hyperthreads, what happens is effectively half of the cpu runs
>> one thread, and the other half runs the other thread.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, for windows, where it does a TERRIBLE job (or it used to) of
>> pre-emptive multitasking, having ‘more’ CPUs is better so that the OS can
>> lock one down because it doesn’t know how to share it - thus hiding the bug.
>>
>>
>>
>> In linux, IMHO you should turn multithreading off.
>>
>>
>>
>> (IIRC, I ran a system with HT on, and looked at BogoMIPS, then ran with
>> HT off, and the BogoMIPS doubled.  I could be remembering wrong, and it was
>> in the early days of HT, so perhaps they’ve “fixed” it)
>>
>>
>>
>> Rusty
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:
>> plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] *On Behalf Of *Kevin Fries
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 07, 2016 12:51 PM
>> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
>> *Subject:* Re: 4 cores and 8 threads
>>
>>
>>
>> The big thing to keep in mind is this
>>
>> All threading either at the processor or in code will share a resource.
>> Heavy use by one process on a CPU core can effect any other process running
>> on that core.  Heavy use on one CPU core will not effect the other cores.
>> (sorta, as data bus issues can still occur).
>>
>> Most processes use very little actual CPU.  So, between the OS and the
>> multicores, modern computers can push allot of work through themselves.
>>
>> That said, there are some processes that are highly comparative.
>> Multicores can actually slow down execution in these cases because any type
>> of multiuse of a resource will encounter administrative overhead.  But
>> these processes are the exception, not the rule.  If you have such needs,
>> turn Hyperthreading off.  Generally leave it on, and the the hardware do
>> its job.
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2016 1:36 PM, "Jerry Snitselaar"  wrote:
>>
>> On Tue Sep 06 16, Keith Smith wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> If an Intel CPU has 4 cores and 8 threads will it look like 8 cores to
>> VirtualBox when assigning resources to a guest?
>>
>> If so is there a way to determine which is a tread and which is actually
>> a core?
>>
>> Thanks!!
>> Keith
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>> In addition to the answers already given, you can read
>> about it in Volume 1 of the Intel Software Developer's Manual,
>> section 2.2.8.
>>
>> http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/architectu
>> res-software-developer-manuals.html
>>
>> As to your question, if you have a hyperthreaded CPU it will look like
>> multiple cores and there is no difference between them as far as
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Re: Keypass questions

[Bob Elzer]

The problem with cats is they tend to use very guessable passwords like
mouse, fish, bird.

You tell them to use stronger ones, but they don't listen.

Cats just don't listen !!!

On Jul 27, 2016 4:07 PM, "der.hans"  wrote:

> Am 27. Jul, 2016 schwätzte Stephen Partington so:
>
> So you split your passwords into multiple databases and then sync based on
>> sensitivity?
>>
>
> I have a combination of different databases, e.g. one for work stuff,
> another for data sharing with family, primary and one for the cat. Well,
> the cat isn't going to follow best practices no matter what I do :(.
>
> Then for some of the above, I export parts for travel. For values of
> export usually being copy and paste.
>
> I also store sensitive data other than passwords, e.g. member number for
> some
> organizations, shoe size and favorite ice cream flavor. Don't want to
> accidentally forget that last one!
>
> ciao,
>
> der.hans
>
> On Jul 27, 2016 3:46 PM, "der.hans"  wrote:
>>
>> Am 27. Jul, 2016 schwätzte Stephen Partington so:
>>>
>>> moin moin,
>>>
>>> I know several of you here are using keepass. of those users who is
>>> working
>>>
 with the various browser integrations and the various android apps. and
 the
 usual or unusual means of keeping the db across multiple locations.


>>> I don't let browser store passwords or use password autofill. The
>>> lastpass
>>> bug demonstrates why :).
>>>
>>> I do use keepassdroid. It gets a minimal subset of my passwords.
>>>
>>> As to syncing, keepass doesn't really have something for that. I just
>>> manually keep a couple of DBen in sync and then push them out where they
>>> need to go.
>>>
>>> There are some command line tools, so I could build my own sync tool. It
>>> likely wouldn't be secure and won't save me enough effort to get on my
>>> radar.
>>>
>>> ciao,
>>>
>>> der.hans
>>>
>>> I have been wondering about keepass and its use for some time, but now
>>> with
>>>
 the recent security hold found in Lastpass i am taking a second look at
 it.



 https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2016/07/27/lastpass-password-manager-zero-day-bug-hits-the-news/

 ​PS i know this is not a real 0 day bug, so does the author. not sure
 why
 he decided to do that sort of weird headline.​




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Re: Cox Business Internet

[Bob Elzer]

Have you tried asking them to renew your current plan, or telling them you
will leave if they don't ?

Also, if they say go ahead and leave, hang up and call back and get someone
else and go through the same thing, repeating until you get the answer you
want.

I find most of these reps don't care or don't know what they can offer you.

When I had roadrunner, they would send me a bill with the new price for
HBO, when I told them to cancel, they would renew the old plan.

It once took me 9 months to get quest to fix my bill, 9 months to find the
right person that knew what they were doing and that I was right.

I'll bet you can get your deal renewed, or a better one.

They really would rather keep you as a customer.
On Jul 2, 2016 12:32 AM, "Nathan England"  wrote:

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> which is 25mbps.
>
> I'm conflicted with whether or not it is worth the price. My internet
> now is pretty fast, I cannot often complain about the speed, but I'm
> curious, is the 25mb dedicated better than my 150 on a perfect day?
>
> - --
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Re: 4k tv / monitors

[Bob Elzer]

Make ? Model number ?
Where did you get the deal?

Hey Brian can I get your thoughts on the vizio E43u-d2 model
On Jun 22, 2016 5:19 AM,  wrote:

> Yes...
> I have a 55" 4K TV as my laptop monitor.
> I can fit the 17" 1900x1080 laptop monitor 4 times over and it looks as
> crispy (or better) than the laptop.
> I paid 400 bucks for the TV.
> The same real estate in monitors would add up to over a thousand bucks.
> Go 4K
> ET
>
> Keith Smith writes:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>> After a little research it looks like the benefit of a 4k TV or monitor
>> is resolution.  I assume that means a single 40+ inch TV or monitor
>> configured at a high resolution so I can pack tons of stuff on one monitor.
>> Any other benefits?
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Re: 4k tv / monitors

[Bob Elzer]

My plan when I have the money is to get the new vizio e43u-d2 4k uhd 43 inch
That would be about the size of 4 24 inch monitors

I currently run 2, 24 inch monitors

Going to 1 uhd monitor means less wires, maybe less power (not sure), no
bezels / borders

With vnc I can run 4 desktops on one screen
On Jun 19, 2016 8:04 AM, "Keith Smith"  wrote:

>
>
> Hi,
>
> After a little research it looks like the benefit of a 4k TV or monitor is
> resolution.  I assume that means a single 40+ inch TV or monitor configured
> at a high resolution so I can pack tons of stuff on one monitor.
>
> Any other benefits?
>
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Re: security intrusion lab at Comicon tonight

[Bob Elzer]

Ok thanks
On Jun 2, 2016 2:31 PM, "Anthony Kosednar"  wrote:

> Err I will get you one once I'm there but I don't know right now
> On Jun 2, 2016 2:30 PM, "Bob Elzer"  wrote:
>
>> Is there a room number?
>> On Jun 2, 2016 11:31 AM, "der.hans"  wrote:
>>
>>> moin moin,
>>>
>>> AZCWR is running an intrusion lab at Comicon tonight.
>>>
>>> 17:30 - 22:00
>>> North building
>>> 2nd floor
>>>
>>> ciao,
>>>
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Re: security intrusion lab at Comicon tonight

[Bob Elzer]

Is there a room number?
On Jun 2, 2016 11:31 AM, "der.hans"  wrote:

> moin moin,
>
> AZCWR is running an intrusion lab at Comicon tonight.
>
> 17:30 - 22:00
> North building
> 2nd floor
>
> ciao,
>
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Re: rsync problem

[Bob Elzer]

I have a feeling that your USB drive may be dying.

If it is flash, how many times have you copied to it? A lot?

What size is it? Is it near full?
On May 9, 2016 7:21 PM, "Michael"  wrote:

> what about this:
> "read only file system" thing?
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Sesso  wrote:
>
>> Try using just --delete instead of --delete-before
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 9, 2016, at 7:09 PM, Michael  wrote:
>>
>> well, I just ran it with the trailing slash and it gave me the same
>> output as before except it happened immediately. The USB drive wasn't
>> accessd for five minutes.
>>
>> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 10:04 PM, Bob Elzer  wrote:
>>
>>> My syncs look like this
>>>
>>> Rsync -rauh  --delete  /frompath/fromdir   /topath/todir
>>>
>>> This copies the fromdir into the todir directory and copies all files
>>> and directories below fromdir
>>>
>>> -r   recursive
>>> -a  archive - which is synonymous to -rlptgoD
>>> -u  update :don't over write newer files
>>> -W  copy whole files (don't do delta)
>>> -h  human readable numbers
>>>
>>> This backs up my stuff to an external drive, thus I don't need to do a
>>> delta or compression because it is all local
>>> --delete  Any files that were removed from the source will be removed
>>> from the destination
>>>
>>> If I were copying across a network, I add -z  and remove -W
>>> Which will compress the transfer and only send changes when possible.
>>>
>>> Normally I use --quiet and change it to --verbose or --progress when I
>>> want to monitor it
>>> On May 9, 2016 4:05 PM, "Michael"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> When I run rsync one file (a directory) will not sync and the files in
>>>> that file. I was wondering why. I thought that maybe if the file was in
>>>> there to start that would fix it and it does so if only temporarily. Upon
>>>> the next run of rsync the directory in question is deleted.
>>>> the command that is run:
>>>>  $ rsync -aWuq --delete-before /home/bmike1/Documents
>>>> /media/bmike1/RedSanDisk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FAfv-aLaQR6HWUx8M-aZF4QL8oAsi6SH2Xg01vKpTPI/edit?usp=sharing
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Re: rsync problem

[Bob Elzer]

My syncs look like this

Rsync -rauh  --delete  /frompath/fromdir   /topath/todir

This copies the fromdir into the todir directory and copies all files and
directories below fromdir

-r   recursive
-a  archive - which is synonymous to -rlptgoD
-u  update :don't over write newer files
-W  copy whole files (don't do delta)
-h  human readable numbers

This backs up my stuff to an external drive, thus I don't need to do a
delta or compression because it is all local
--delete  Any files that were removed from the source will be removed from
the destination

If I were copying across a network, I add -z  and remove -W
Which will compress the transfer and only send changes when possible.

Normally I use --quiet and change it to --verbose or --progress when I want
to monitor it
On May 9, 2016 4:05 PM, "Michael"  wrote:

> When I run rsync one file (a directory) will not sync and the files in
> that file. I was wondering why. I thought that maybe if the file was in
> there to start that would fix it and it does so if only temporarily. Upon
> the next run of rsync the directory in question is deleted.
> the command that is run:
>  $ rsync -aWuq --delete-before /home/bmike1/Documents
> /media/bmike1/RedSanDisk
>
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FAfv-aLaQR6HWUx8M-aZF4QL8oAsi6SH2Xg01vKpTPI/edit?usp=sharing
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Re: Libre Office comes pre-installed on Mint. Software manger says not installed.

[Bob Elzer]

Maybe because the package manager didn't install it, it thinks it's not
installed.

Have you checked other pre installed software for the same behaviour ?
On Apr 21, 2016 5:19 PM, "Keith Smith"  wrote:

>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm running Mint 17 KDE and want to use Libre Office Base to create some
> entity relationship diagrams.  Mint came with Libre Office pre installed,
> however there is not Base.
>
> I saw a suggestion to use the software manager to do the install.  I
> opened it and searched for Libre Office.  It said it is not installed.  How
> could that be?  I use Libre Office all the time.  It is there.
>
> Thank you in advance for your insight.
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Re: walking pictures

[Bob Elzer]

Do you have a Samsung Galaxy phone?

In my camera settings I have a setting called panorama, I point the phone
and turn slowly, it works very well.

If  you don't have the galaxy, I'm sure there's a camera app that will do
panorama
On Mar 3, 2016 4:18 PM, "Michael"  wrote:

> If I do it I sure will! as for the 'street google street view' app the
> closest I can find is 'google street view'. Anthony, that is a good 360
> picture of the auto service bay at gateway. To do it take a bunch of
> pictures and stitch them together with hugin and then put them into the ap?
> Can I download it for my computer? when you figure out how to link
> everything together let me know. I would think you would just take a bunch
> of pictures of the door and the hall and on. What do you think?
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Anthony Radzykewycz <
> anthony.radzykew...@gatewaycc.edu> wrote:
>
>> I've not tried it before. The user interface is very easy to use. There
>> are some areas that didn't align quite right, but the app walks you through
>> point by point on where to shoot the photo. It'll take a few minutes. I'd
>> be curious to see what the indoors one would look like. Michael, if you try
>> it out, could you put some of your photospheres here for us to see? :-).
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Brian Cluff  wrote:
>>
>>> I was going to mention that you could just use your phone, but with the
>>> amount of parallax distortion you would get indoors, because of the close
>>> quarters, I decided to pass on it as a suggestion.  Using your phone
>>> without some fancy rig to align the lens correctly would lead to some very
>>> strange/bad looking real estate photos.
>>>
>>> Brian Cluff
>>>
>>> On 03/03/2016 09:15 AM, Anthony Radzykewycz wrote:
>>>
 I have experience with a particular application for single photos. We
 haven't gotten to taken multiple to link them in a 'tour' yet. Use an
 android device, go to the play store, download "Street Google Street
 View," then get back to me if that works. I find it to work very well.
 Here's a photo we took (spoiler alert: plug for our college.) It's free.

 https://www.google.com/maps/place/Automotive/@33.4492937,-111.9981612,3a,75y,339.38h,82.17t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1s-R2TgnaTB8rg%2FVsdPXmqvNaI%2FCN0%2FMmnEtIAkgLs!2e4!3e11!6s%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2F-R2TgnaTB8rg%2FVsdPXmqvNaI%2FCN0%2FMmnEtIAkgLs%2Fw392-h196-n-k-no%2F!7i8704!8i4352!4m7!1m4!3m3!1s0x872b0e86227901f1:0x6f3e855d11e11760!2sGateWay+Community+College!3b1!3m1!1s0x:0x6f3082e7a75018be!6m1!1e1


 On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Brian Cluff >>> > wrote:

 There is no super cheap way to do spherical panoramas correctly, but
 there are a ton of ways to do them.

 Probably the cheapest way to do it is to get a panorama head for
 your tripod and take a bunch of pictures of the room.  I really like
 the nodal ninja for doing that.  It's inexpensive (compared to a lot
 of the others) and it's well built:


 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/838674-REG/Nodal_Ninja_N3II_PKG_NN_MKII_Starter_Package.html

 To use the nodal ninja you have to carefully align the camera's lens
 so that when you spin it around the camera is rotated on it's focal
 point.  That will be somewhere between the front of the camera and
 the image sensor.
 Then you just take a bunch of pictures that overlap about 30% to
 50%. You probably take anywhere from 16 to 90 pictures per photo
 sphere depending on how wide angle your lens is.

 Then you just stitch all the images together in hugin.

 There are automated versions of the tripod heads, and this is the
 route I would go.  They offer the ability of just set how far apart
 you want your images to be taken in degrees and then simple press a
 button, leave the room and wait for it to take the pictures.  It
 offers the cheapest and highest quality of all the panorama
 techniques that I know of.  A very good example of the Gigapan.
 With the smaller cameras you could get the cheapest model and it's
 not all that much more expensive than the Nodal Ninja.

 http://www.omegabrandess.com/products/Gigapan/600-0006

 There are also a number of specialized camera's that range from a
 couple of hundred bucks to thousands.  The cheapest one I know if is
 the Ricoh Theta M15:

 http://www.amazon.com/Ricoh-Theta-Degree-Spherical-Panorama/dp/B00OZCM71O
 Many of the dedicated cameras, the Ricoh included use multiple
 cameras to capture the image.  In wide open spaces that it's such a
 big deal, but inside buildings having multiple cameras that don't
 capture images from a single focal point will cause parallax
 distortion,

Re: Upgrade old laptop with SSD

[Bob Elzer]

Really the first thing you should do is increase the ram, this will give
you the biggest boost

How much ram can the laptop hold ?

That will prevent most all disk swapping which is what really slows a
system down, and less swapping would decrease wear if you do get an ssd.

An ssd will shorten your boot time, but not by much with the latest
systems, my centos 7 boots in about a minute from HDD.

It will also decrease loading times for programs from disk, but how many
programs do you start up in a day? You may gain a few minutes but not an
hour or two.

If you are writing lots of data, this will speed up because the writes are
much faster than an HDD, but then you start wearing out the disk faster.

Ssd's are good for increasing transactions per second like in a database,
some place where lots of reads and writes are going on. If you're a big
company you can afford to buy lots of ssd's and get the benefit of all that
throughput.

If you are reading email and browsing and maybe some libre office, I don't
really think it pays to get an ssd for your system disk.

If you want to compare them, get a cheap 128gb and duplicate it to an HDD
and spend a week on each. See how much time you gain.
On Feb 29, 2016 9:09 PM, "Stephen Partington"  wrote:

> But not an inconceivable amount more. I mainly suggest it because of the
> warranty.
> On Feb 29, 2016 8:06 PM, "Keith Smith"  wrote:
>
>> Thank you for your feedback Stephen!!
>>
>> I assume you are recommending Samsung Evo 850?
>>
>> I was looking at the Kingston because of price.  One of the ratings said
>> Kingston was not as fast as others.  You said "Samsung Evo 850(they are
>> also  wicked fast)".
>>
>> The cost more too.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2016-02-29 09:44, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>
>>> The lifespan will depend entirely on the number of Writes the drive
>>> will incur. The first thing you want to do once the Os is installed is
>>> to reduce this. If you have enough ram and are comfortable with nos
>>> wap go for it. If you want the backup i would suggest pushing
>>> swappiness all the way over so that it is used only if there is no
>>> ram.
>>>
>>> Most SSD's will give you a 3 year warranty. Samsung with their Evo 850
>>>  drives and the new vnand are offering 5 year warranty. (they are also
>>> wicked fast).
>>>
>>> That being said. with minimal writes I have seen older SSD's last for
>>> much longer than their supplied 3 year warranty (I have one that is
>>> pushing 6 right now).
>>>
>>> With an SSD the general user experience will be pretty good, but
>>> Anytime you run updates it will still crawl, regardless fo the SSD :-)
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Keith Smith
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,

 I have an older laptop. Not sure when I bought it. I'm thinking I
 bought it before 2009, however the CPU is an AMD 3300M which
 according to what I am reading was not in production until 2011. It
 has 4G of RAM and a 500GB HD. It's running Win7, which is a little
 slow.

 I was thinking of replacing the HD with an SSD and potentially
 making it into a "Chromebook" (Thunderbird/Libre Office/ Chrome
 Browser) I'm reading the SSD's are 10x faster than the HD. There
 has been prior discussions about breathing life into old hardware by
 replacing the HD with SSD and installing Linux (now we are on
 topic).

 Initially I was thinking a small SSD since I will probably never
 use this laptop in production... But you never know. If these mods
 work out I might dual boot it - Win7 / Mint 17 KDE.

 Newegg is selling a 240G Kingston SSD for $65 which is probably way
 more storage than I would ever need.
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820721108 [1]

 What type of lifespan should I expect for an SSD with moderate
 usage?

 Anything specific I should be looking at?

 Thank you so much for your help!!

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>>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
>>>
>>> Stephen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Links:
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Re: multiple photos- making sections lighter

[Bob Elzer]

Using the words from your first post,

Gimp layers multiple shine light area flash

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gimp+layers+multiple+shine+light+area+flash+

Finds lots of things
On Jan 4, 2016 8:01 AM, "Michael Havens"  wrote:

> I googled it before but I didn't know what search terms to us. I was
> actually looking for something else when I happened upon those pages
> looking  up HDR or was it "exposure fusion"? Would you rather I keep
> what I find secret?
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Bob Elzer  wrote:
>
>> I think you proved something here.
>>
>> You asked a question, someone took time to give you a detailed answer.
>> And you Google the question which gives you two better answers.
>>
>> Don't you think it would be better to Google all your questions FIRST.
>>
>> That way someone doesn't waste time and energy giving a detailed answer,
>> and get insulted
>> when you tell them it wasn't good enough, because you were going to
>> Google it anyway.
>> On Jan 4, 2016 6:21 AM, "Michael Havens"  wrote:
>>
>>> here is another good one.
>>> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Blending_Exposures/
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 7:39 AM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think a better way to do it, Brian!
>>>> http://www.instructables.com/id/HDR-photos-with-the-GIMP/step10*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Brian Cluff  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In gimp you would open up your images as layers and then in the layers
>>>>> window click the little eye next to all of the layers except for the 
>>>>> bottom
>>>>> one.  Then one by one, starting at the next to the last one, click the eye
>>>>> on the layer to make it visile again.  Then right click on the image and
>>>>> select "Add Layer Mask".  When the layer mask settings come up select
>>>>> "Black (Full Transparency)" and that will make the layer appear to
>>>>> dissappear.  Then all you have to do is use the airbrush or paint tool
>>>>> (start with the paint tool) to paint white onto the layer mask, using a
>>>>> fussy brush, and that will cause the features of the layer to be 
>>>>> airbrushed
>>>>> into the picture.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once done with that layer, just repeate with the rest of the layers
>>>>> until your satisfied with your image.  If you want to decrease the amount
>>>>> of the overall effect that any layer applies to your image just adjust the
>>>>> Opacity slider back and forth till you are happy with the results.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian Cluff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 01/02/2016 11:25 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKyQsnwJMrM
>>>>>> go to 18 minutes and 13 seconds-how do  you do it with GIMP?
>>>>>> if you don't want to watch to 18 minutes and 13 seconds  here is the
>>>>>> set up:
>>>>>> He took multiple photo of the exact same scene holding a flash over
>>>>>> various sections of his scene to shine light on the area. (he was in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> shot) Then he put the photos on different layers I think I
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> he then removed the pixels from the layer on top which were darker.Is
>>>>>> that correct?
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Re: multiple photos- making sections lighter

[Bob Elzer]

I think you proved something here.

You asked a question, someone took time to give you a detailed answer.
And you Google the question which gives you two better answers.

Don't you think it would be better to Google all your questions FIRST.

That way someone doesn't waste time and energy giving a detailed answer,
and get insulted
when you tell them it wasn't good enough, because you were going to Google
it anyway.
On Jan 4, 2016 6:21 AM, "Michael Havens"  wrote:

> here is another good one.
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Blending_Exposures/
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 7:39 AM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>
>> I think a better way to do it, Brian!
>> http://www.instructables.com/id/HDR-photos-with-the-GIMP/step10*
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Brian Cluff  wrote:
>>
>>> In gimp you would open up your images as layers and then in the layers
>>> window click the little eye next to all of the layers except for the bottom
>>> one.  Then one by one, starting at the next to the last one, click the eye
>>> on the layer to make it visile again.  Then right click on the image and
>>> select "Add Layer Mask".  When the layer mask settings come up select
>>> "Black (Full Transparency)" and that will make the layer appear to
>>> dissappear.  Then all you have to do is use the airbrush or paint tool
>>> (start with the paint tool) to paint white onto the layer mask, using a
>>> fussy brush, and that will cause the features of the layer to be airbrushed
>>> into the picture.
>>>
>>> Once done with that layer, just repeate with the rest of the layers
>>> until your satisfied with your image.  If you want to decrease the amount
>>> of the overall effect that any layer applies to your image just adjust the
>>> Opacity slider back and forth till you are happy with the results.
>>>
>>> Brian Cluff
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/02/2016 11:25 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
>>>
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKyQsnwJMrM
 go to 18 minutes and 13 seconds-how do  you do it with GIMP?
 if you don't want to watch to 18 minutes and 13 seconds  here is the
 set up:
 He took multiple photo of the exact same scene holding a flash over
 various sections of his scene to shine light on the area. (he was in the
 shot) Then he put the photos on different layers I think I know
 he then removed the pixels from the layer on top which were darker.Is
 that correct?
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Re: bulk scale

[Bob Elzer]

man convert  | less
Then. In less type

/width

To find width
On Jan 1, 2016 6:02 AM, "Michael Havens"  wrote:

> yeah, I tried that. it can't find the word 'width'!
>convert -width1600 '*.JPG' %03d.jpg
> doesn't do it either. or
>   convert --width1600 '*.JPG' %03d.jpg
> or
>convert -geometrywidth1600 '*.JPG' %03d.jpg
>convert --geometrywidth1600 '*.JPG' %03d.jpg
>    convert --geometry-width1600 '*.JPG' %03d.jpg
>
> On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 7:17 AM, Bob Elzer  wrote:
>
>> Try typing. man convert
>> On Dec 31, 2015 10:53 PM, "Michael Havens"  wrote:
>>
>>> Okay I just ran the program again except this time gave the 'Y' axis
>>> a value of 1200. (how strange I just scaled an image to find out
>>> the 'Y' access was scaling to and discovered it was 1200. I could swear it
>>> was 1975 or something similar to that).  Well I guess I'll ask anyways: how
>>> do you scale one axis proportionately to the other.
>>>
>>> Okay guys does this look good?
>>>
>>> Bulk scale
>>>
>>>  for FILE in *.JPG ; do
>>>NEWFILE=`echo "$FILE" | sed -e 's/.JPG$/.JPG/'`
>>>convert '*.JPG[1600x1200]' %03d.jpg
>>>done
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Michael Havens 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  What did I do?
>>>>
>>>> $ for FILE in *.JPG ; doNEWFILE=`echo "$FILE" | sed -e
>>>> 's/.JPG$/_resized.jpg/'`;convert '*.JPG[1600x0]' *.jpg;done
>>>> ^C
>>>> bmike1@c521 ~/Documents/Business/PropertyPhotographing/20151228/test $
>>>> ls
>>>> *-0.jpg  *-9-126.jpg  *-9-190.jpg  *-9-254.jpg  *-9-318.jpg
>>>>  *-9-76.jpg
>>>> *-10.jpg *-9-127.jpg  *-9-191.jpg  *-9-255.jpg  *-9-319.jpg
>>>>  *-9-77.jpg
>>>> *-11.jpg *-9-128.jpg  *-9-192.jpg  *-9-256.jpg  *-9-31.jpg
>>>> *-9-78.jpg
>>>> *-12.jpg *-9-129.jpg  *-9-193.jpg  *-9-257.jpg  *-9-320.jpg
>>>>  *-9-79.jpg
>>>> *-13.jpg *-9-12.jpg   *-9-194.jpg  *-9-258.jpg  *-9-321.jpg
>>>>  *-9-7.jpg
>>>> *-14.jpg *-9-130.jpg  *-9-195.jpg  *-9-259.jpg  *-9-322.jpg
>>>>  *-9-80.jpg
>>>> *-15.jpg *-9-131.jpg  *-9-196.jpg  *-9-25.jpg   *-9-323.jpg
>>>>  *-9-81.jpg
>>>> *-16.jpg *-9-132.jpg  *-9-197.jpg  *-9-260.jpg  *-9-324.jpg
>>>>  *-9-82.jpg
>>>> *-17.jpg *-9-133.jpg  *-9-198.jpg  *-9-261.jpg  *-9-325.jpg
>>>>  *-9-83.jpg
>>>> *-18.jpg *-9-134.jpg  *-9-199.jpg  *-9-262.jpg  *-9-326.jpg
>>>>  *-9-84.jpg
>>>> *-19.jpg *-9-135.jpg  *-9-19.jpg   *-9-263.jpg  *-9-327.jpg
>>>>  *-9-85.jpg
>>>> *-1.jpg  *-9-136.jpg  *-9-1.jpg*-9-264.jpg  *-9-328.jpg
>>>>  *-9-86.jpg
>>>> *-20.jpg *-9-137.jpg  *-9-200.jpg  *-9-265.jpg  *-9-329.jpg
>>>>  *-9-87.jpg
>>>> *-21.jpg *-9-138.jpg  *-9-201.jpg  *-9-266.jpg  *-9-32.jpg
>>>> *-9-88.jpg
>>>> *-22.jpg *-9-139.jpg  *-9-202.jpg  *-9-267.jpg  *-9-330.jpg
>>>>  *-9-89.jpg
>>>> *-23.jpg *-9-13.jpg   *-9-203.jpg  *-9-268.jpg  *-9-331.jpg
>>>>  *-9-8.jpg
>>>> *-24.jpg *-9-140.jpg  *-9-204.jpg  *-9-269.jpg  *-9-332.jpg
>>>>  *-9-90.jpg
>>>> *-25.jpg *-9-141.jpg  *-9-205.jpg  *-9-26.jpg   *-9-333.jpg
>>>>  *-9-91.jpg
>>>> *-26.jpg *-9-142.jpg  *-9-206.jpg  *-9-270.jpg  *-9-334.jpg
>>>>  *-9-92.jpg
>>>> *-27.jpg *-9-143.jpg  *-9-207.jpg  *-9-271.jpg  *-9-335.jpg
>>>>  *-9-93.jpg
>>>> *-28.jpg *-9-144.jpg  *-9-208.jpg  *-9-272.jpg  *-9-336.jpg
>>>>  *-9-94.jpg
>>>> *-29.jpg *-9-145.jpg  *-9-209.jpg  *-9-273.jpg  *-9-337.jpg
>>>>  *-9-95.jpg
>>>> *-2.jpg  *-9-146.jpg  *-9-20.jpg   *-9-274.jpg  *-9-338.jpg
>>>>  *-9-96.jpg
>>>> *-30.jpg *-9-147.jpg  *-9-210.jpg  *-9-275.jpg  *-9-339.jpg
>>>>  *-9-97.jpg
>>>> *-31.jpg *-9-148.jpg  *-9-211.jpg  *-9-276.jpg  *-9-33.jpg
>>>> *-9-98.jpg
>>>> *-32.jpg *-9-149.jpg  *-9-212.jpg  *-9-277.jpg  *-9-34.jpg
>>>> *-9-99.jpg
>>>> *-33.jpg *-9-14.jpg   *-9-213.jpg  *-9-278.jpg  *-9-35.jpg
>>>> *-9-9.jpg
>>>> *-34.jpg *-9-150.jpg  *-9-214.jpg  *-9-279.jpg  *-9-36.jpg  

Re: bulk scale

[Bob Elzer]

Try typing. man convert
On Dec 31, 2015 10:53 PM, "Michael Havens"  wrote:

> Okay I just ran the program again except this time gave the 'Y' axis a
> value of 1200. (how strange I just scaled an image to find out the
> 'Y' access was scaling to and discovered it was 1200. I could swear it was
> 1975 or something similar to that).  Well I guess I'll ask anyways: how do
> you scale one axis proportionately to the other.
>
> Okay guys does this look good?
>
> Bulk scale
>
>  for FILE in *.JPG ; do
>NEWFILE=`echo "$FILE" | sed -e 's/.JPG$/.JPG/'`
>convert '*.JPG[1600x1200]' %03d.jpg
>done
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>
>>  What did I do?
>>
>> $ for FILE in *.JPG ; doNEWFILE=`echo "$FILE" | sed -e
>> 's/.JPG$/_resized.jpg/'`;convert '*.JPG[1600x0]' *.jpg;done
>> ^C
>> bmike1@c521 ~/Documents/Business/PropertyPhotographing/20151228/test $ ls
>> *-0.jpg  *-9-126.jpg  *-9-190.jpg  *-9-254.jpg  *-9-318.jpg
>>  *-9-76.jpg
>> *-10.jpg *-9-127.jpg  *-9-191.jpg  *-9-255.jpg  *-9-319.jpg
>>  *-9-77.jpg
>> *-11.jpg *-9-128.jpg  *-9-192.jpg  *-9-256.jpg  *-9-31.jpg
>> *-9-78.jpg
>> *-12.jpg *-9-129.jpg  *-9-193.jpg  *-9-257.jpg  *-9-320.jpg
>>  *-9-79.jpg
>> *-13.jpg *-9-12.jpg   *-9-194.jpg  *-9-258.jpg  *-9-321.jpg  *-9-7.jpg
>> *-14.jpg *-9-130.jpg  *-9-195.jpg  *-9-259.jpg  *-9-322.jpg
>>  *-9-80.jpg
>> *-15.jpg *-9-131.jpg  *-9-196.jpg  *-9-25.jpg   *-9-323.jpg
>>  *-9-81.jpg
>> *-16.jpg *-9-132.jpg  *-9-197.jpg  *-9-260.jpg  *-9-324.jpg
>>  *-9-82.jpg
>> *-17.jpg *-9-133.jpg  *-9-198.jpg  *-9-261.jpg  *-9-325.jpg
>>  *-9-83.jpg
>> *-18.jpg *-9-134.jpg  *-9-199.jpg  *-9-262.jpg  *-9-326.jpg
>>  *-9-84.jpg
>> *-19.jpg *-9-135.jpg  *-9-19.jpg   *-9-263.jpg  *-9-327.jpg
>>  *-9-85.jpg
>> *-1.jpg  *-9-136.jpg  *-9-1.jpg*-9-264.jpg  *-9-328.jpg
>>  *-9-86.jpg
>> *-20.jpg *-9-137.jpg  *-9-200.jpg  *-9-265.jpg  *-9-329.jpg
>>  *-9-87.jpg
>> *-21.jpg *-9-138.jpg  *-9-201.jpg  *-9-266.jpg  *-9-32.jpg
>> *-9-88.jpg
>> *-22.jpg *-9-139.jpg  *-9-202.jpg  *-9-267.jpg  *-9-330.jpg
>>  *-9-89.jpg
>> *-23.jpg *-9-13.jpg   *-9-203.jpg  *-9-268.jpg  *-9-331.jpg  *-9-8.jpg
>> *-24.jpg *-9-140.jpg  *-9-204.jpg  *-9-269.jpg  *-9-332.jpg
>>  *-9-90.jpg
>> *-25.jpg *-9-141.jpg  *-9-205.jpg  *-9-26.jpg   *-9-333.jpg
>>  *-9-91.jpg
>> *-26.jpg *-9-142.jpg  *-9-206.jpg  *-9-270.jpg  *-9-334.jpg
>>  *-9-92.jpg
>> *-27.jpg *-9-143.jpg  *-9-207.jpg  *-9-271.jpg  *-9-335.jpg
>>  *-9-93.jpg
>> *-28.jpg *-9-144.jpg  *-9-208.jpg  *-9-272.jpg  *-9-336.jpg
>>  *-9-94.jpg
>> *-29.jpg *-9-145.jpg  *-9-209.jpg  *-9-273.jpg  *-9-337.jpg
>>  *-9-95.jpg
>> *-2.jpg  *-9-146.jpg  *-9-20.jpg   *-9-274.jpg  *-9-338.jpg
>>  *-9-96.jpg
>> *-30.jpg *-9-147.jpg  *-9-210.jpg  *-9-275.jpg  *-9-339.jpg
>>  *-9-97.jpg
>> *-31.jpg *-9-148.jpg  *-9-211.jpg  *-9-276.jpg  *-9-33.jpg
>> *-9-98.jpg
>> *-32.jpg *-9-149.jpg  *-9-212.jpg  *-9-277.jpg  *-9-34.jpg
>> *-9-99.jpg
>> *-33.jpg *-9-14.jpg   *-9-213.jpg  *-9-278.jpg  *-9-35.jpg   *-9-9.jpg
>> *-34.jpg *-9-150.jpg  *-9-214.jpg  *-9-279.jpg  *-9-36.jpg   *-9.jpg
>> *-35.jpg *-9-151.jpg  *-9-215.jpg  *-9-27.jpg   *-9-37.jpg
>> DSC01021.JPG
>> *-36.jpg *-9-152.jpg  *-9-216.jpg  *-9-280.jpg  *-9-38.jpg
>> DSC01022.JPG
>> *-37.jpg *-9-153.jpg  *-9-217.jpg  *-9-281.jpg  *-9-39.jpg
>> DSC01023.JPG
>> *-38.jpg *-9-154.jpg  *-9-218.jpg  *-9-282.jpg  *-9-3.jpg
>>  DSC01024.JPG
>> *-39.jpg *-9-155.jpg  *-9-219.jpg  *-9-283.jpg  *-9-40.jpg
>> DSC01025.JPG
>> *-3.jpg  *-9-156.jpg  *-9-21.jpg   *-9-284.jpg  *-9-41.jpg
>> DSC01026.JPG
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Re: So weird!

[Bob Elzer]

Huh?

It's obviously broken and you should throw the whole thing out.

Can't have the keyboard leaking all those toxic battery energy waves all
over the place with the cover off.

Turn the lights off while it's dark out, and make sure nothing leaked out
and is glowing.

Weird!

:-p
On Dec 17, 2015 1:48 PM, "Michael Havens"  wrote:

> I've had a wireless key board for a year that just recently started
> working intermittently. I replaced the batteries with new ones from three
> different packages and they worked great for about an average of 10
> minutes. Some how I figured out that it works like normal as long as the
> battery cover is removed. HUH?
>
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Re: systemd [NOT?] (was Re: Void Linux tips)

[Bob Elzer]

I agree with Gilbert,

Coming from centos 6 to 7, at first I was whoa, but after seeing how fast
it booted I loved it.
Centos 6 started every thing sequentially, you had to wait one by one.
With systemd you tell your programs what to wait for, once that thing is
started everything that was waiting for it gets started in parallel. My
boots went from minutes to seconds always under a minute.

As for chrony and firewalld I went back to NTP because my system is always
on, and iptables because I use QoS  on my network connection
On Oct 22, 2015 1:00 PM, "Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr." <
mailing-li...@phxinternet.com> wrote:

> Why are users opposed to systemd? I personally like it.
>
> I am a CentOS user and there was a big jump for me when moving from 6.x to
> 7.x with only one of those components being systemd. It was not systemd
> that made the transition difficult, but app changes (NTP, FIREWALL, etc)
> which were the problem. I not only had to learn systemd so I could start
> the apps, but had to learn how to program Firewalld and their new ntp
> program Chrony. I really believe that systemd is progress and makes things
> simpler to automate startup.
>
> Gilbert
>
> On 10/22/2015 10:42 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote:
>
>> OK, I get it, I don't want systemd either.
>> So seems to feel most everyone.
>> But it looks like (sigh...) systemd is here to stay.
>> In 5 lines, what is it that I don't see?
>> Why are all the distros systemd(ing) disregarding the opposition?
>> What am I missing...   :(
>> ET
>> Steve Litt writes:
>>
>>> On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 14:36:57 -0700
>>> Matt Graham  wrote:
>>>
 On 2015-10-21 12:05, Steve Litt wrote:
 > I recently switched over to Void Linux, a KISS principle distro much
 > closer to Slack than to Ubuntu, but with an oustanding, full
 > dependency handling package manager. So far, I really like it.
 > I've put together a bunch of tips for installing and using Void, so
 > that the next guy has an easier time than I did:
 > http://troubleshooters.com/linux/void/voidtips.htm
 Interesting.  I guess this could be another alternative to the
 creeping "systemd is everywhere" thing.

>>>
>>> Yes. For those who prioritize keeping systemd off their machine, Void
>>> is one of the few distros (along with Funtoo and Devuan and maybe
>>> Slackware) who have stated unequivocally that they won't use systemd as
>>> PID1 in the future. I've even heard various people in talking about
>>> bringing systemd or a systemd like thing into FreeBSD.
>>> It's also a nice place for people who don't like sysvinit. Every
>>> program that could be used as a daemon installs a runit directory,
>>> under /etc/sv, containing a tiny conf script (usually about 4 lines) and
>>> a tiny run script (usually about 4 to 8 lines). Symlink that directory
>>> to a same-named directory within /run/runit/runsvdir/current/ and the
>>> daemon starts, and you're able to manage it with the sv command.
>>> SteveT
>>> Steve Litt October 2015 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times
>>> http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive
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Re: RHEL 8

[Bob Elzer]

Which gnome don't you like?

I really hate gnome 3 and the stupid gnome shell. To me I imagined someone
decided to copy Microsoft's windows idea of making all desktops work like
tablets. I could not put programs on the taskbar or the desktop. Maybe MS
inserted a spy lol.

I wound up installing the mate desktop.

I'm working on building a kickstart script to install centos 7 and setup as
much as possible during install.

I still wish they had the installing everything option. I like a system
that can do anything.
On Oct 13, 2015 3:43 PM, "Nathan England"  wrote:

> I really wish they would give a little more love to their KDE spin. I'm
> not at all a fan of Gnome. I just don't like it. I have tried multiple
> times at length. I develop across 3 screens all horizontally aligned and
> with KDE it works great and Gnome it is just not an enjoyable experience.
>
> But KDE has enough problems to finally push me over my limit. A few weeks
> ago I installed Xfce and have been using that. I like it a lot, but there
> are a few things that get my goat. I really miss my KDE.
>
>
>
> On 2015-10-13 15:38, Stephen Partington wrote:
>
> Fedora 23 is looking really slick... and i am liking their
> Workstation/Server/Cloud installer splits.
>
>
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Re: libreofficecalc formula

[Bob Elzer]

Spreadsheet's don't work like calculators, when you type something into a
cell that's what stays there.

Here is a free budget calculator spreadsheet
http://templates.libreoffice.org/template-center/personal-budget-template
On Sep 3, 2015 7:01 AM, "Michael Havens"  wrote:

> in the 'real' cell it doesn't disappear waiting for a new entry to
> calculate into budget remaining.
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Rusty Ramser 
> wrote:
>
>> If I’m understanding you correctly, that’s exactly what the formula and
>> fill down steps will do for you.  You can change numbers in columns A and
>> B, and the formula in column C will re-calculate real-time with every
>> modification.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>
>> *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:
>> plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] *On Behalf Of *Michael Havens
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 3 September 2015 06:36
>> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
>> *Subject:* Re: libreofficecalc formula
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, what I want is for it to keep a running balance so that I could
>> enter 4 into 'real' and after I hit the enter key the figure in 'real'
>> would disappear and the calculation would take place.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>
>> *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:
>> plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] *On Behalf Of *Rusty Ramser
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 3 September 2015 06:22
>> *To:* 'Main PLUG discussion list'
>> *Subject:* RE: libreofficecalc formula
>>
>>
>>
>> If your cells are set up like the following:
>>
>>
>>
>> A
>>
>> B
>>
>> C
>>
>> 1
>>
>> Budget
>>
>> Real
>>
>> Budget Remain
>>
>> 2
>>
>> 600
>>
>> 600
>>
>> 0
>>
>> 3
>>
>> 700
>>
>> 50
>>
>> 650
>>
>>
>>
>> Then in cell C2 you would put this formula:  =a2-b2
>>
>>
>>
>> Then, highlight/select cells C2 all the way down to C99 (or whatever your
>> last row entry is).  If you have data down to the 13th row, you should
>> have cells C2 to C13 highlighted.  Once you do, press Ctrl-D to “fill
>> down”.  The formula you entered into C2 (the topmost cell highlighted) will
>> be filled down to all the lower cells and you’ll have your calculation
>> working.
>>
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>
>> *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [
>> mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org
>> ] *On Behalf Of *Michael Havens
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 3 September 2015 04:43
>> *To:* PLUG
>> *Subject:* libreofficecalc formula
>>
>>
>>
>> (budget)
>>
>> (real)
>>
>> (bdgt remain)
>>
>> 600
>>
>> 600
>>
>> 0
>>
>> 700
>>
>>50
>>
>> 650
>>
>>
>>
>> The above is how I have it now. I want to be able to enter an amount into
>> 'real' and for the formula to subtract it from budget and to put the
>> remainder in 'bdgt remain'. Please, how do I do it?
>>
>>
>>
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Re: no wedding band??

[Bob Elzer]

This is old news from 2010.

If we are going to start yelling the sky is falling, then lets do some good.

Bill Gates promised me that for every response to this thread he will
donate $100 to eliminating cancer.

Lets bankrupt the bastard!!!

:-p
On Aug 29, 2015 11:07 AM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:

> oh yeah. Like I said, it starts with next to nothing. Its like the frog in
> the pot scenario. Throw a frog in boiling water and he immediately hops
> out. Place a frog in cool water and slowly bring up the heat, he is toast
> before he realizes that he is in trouble. Same thing here. All it will take
> is one government official making an assumption about Linux and the next
> thing we all know is that it would be illegal to download or use (and we
> could be arrested under the DMCA and the computer crimes act).
>
> Honestly people, we need to nip this in the bud now. Our very civil
> liberties will be at stake when this happens (not IF, but when).
>
> -eric
>
> On Aug 29, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Nathan England wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Great points Eric. Consider also what will happen when the government
> gets burned by Ashley Maddison, or the next one. No doubt they will find
> out that the "hackers" were running linux. The server probably was too.
> That open source cancer.
> >
> > (politicians will decry:)
> > We need to protect the people. We need to remove the ability to boot
> alternative operating systems (secure boot) and all internet connected
> systems are running verified closed source operating systems.
> >
> > They may even say that linux servers make it easier to "hack".
> >
> > When will people wake up? Politics has nothing to do with technology or
> this group? Seriously? Politics has invaded every step of our lives.
> >
> > Many of the people on this list are close friends and like to talk. Yet
> several are determined to keep their heads in the sand. Pathetic that we
> cannot talk and share all aspects of our lives without offending people.
> Just seems silly to me. We act like children all over again. No one is
> allowed to have opinions any more because they are offensive.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2015-08-29 08:26, Eric Oyen wrote:
> >> in some ways, this is already happening. Take for example my DVD
> >> collection. Given the terms of the DMCA, I am not allowed to play them
> >> with vlc (an open source media player) because it breaks (cracks) the
> >> CSS on those dvd's in order to play the content. THis also means I
> >> can't make backups of said media and keep the originals in their
> >> packages as archived originals.
> >> THere is also the matter of e-books. Take for example the Kindle. THe
> >> OS on it is open source (or at least the kernel is). However, the
> >> books themselves are closed source format and the kindle will not read
> >> allowed the text for me. Add to that another issue with the American
> >> Authors guild. THey insist that I have to register with them before I
> >> can have the right to access an e-book. Again, its the DMCA at work
> >> (along with the content cartels). I have a right to be able to read
> >> what I want in the method that best works for me (speech, braille,
> >> accessible electronic text, etc.) and I am not being allowed to.
> >> So, if you think this hasn't started happening in Linux, think again.
> >> It's already here and it starts out as next to nothing. Its time for
> >> those of us who have the knowledge to quit talking about the problem
> >> and actually do something about it.
> >> -eric (the other eric)
> >> On Aug 29, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Keith Smith wrote:
> >>> I understand some do not like bringing politics into this list.
> However it is all relevant.  I'm a LAMP developer.  I have deep concerns
> that the Federal Government will at some point start to regulate Open
> Source / Free Software.
> >>> I've known Lyle for sometime and his heart is in the right place.
> >>> This nation was birthed on freedom... And today a baby can be caused
> to be delivered prematurely and cut to pieces while it's heart is still
> beating. This is called abortion.
> >>> I think these are discussions we need to have because it will soon be
> Linux they come after.  Then what?
> >>> All it will take is for the likes of Bill Gates to grease the palms of
> a handful of politicians and the next thing you know you will only be able
> to boot M$.
> >>> Didn't we see that with the law that says you cannot root your phone?
> These types of things are the opposite of freedom.  We should have the
> freedom to buy whatever phone we want and buy minutes from any carrier.
> Instead the Cellular providers influence politicians to pass laws that take
> away our freedom.  This is called crony capitalism.
> >>> Crony capitalism may effect Open Source / Free Software at some point.
> A free and open market allows us to vote with our dollars.  That is not the
> system we have today.  We have a system where the wealthy and big business
> buy politicians and they pass laws that aid the wealthy and

Re: Windows 10 – Microsoft’s Big Data-grabbing (or spying?) OS

[Bob Elzer]

But they are vulnerable to it also. This is different from the gov having a
backdoor or spying on me, this lets anyone spy on me.
On Aug 18, 2015 8:34 AM, "Keith Smith"  wrote:

> On 2015-08-17 22:49, Bob Elzer wrote:
>
>> Well wifi-sense will share your wifi password. What gets me is
>> microsoft is saving a database of all these passwords.
>>
>> They say you can add _optout to your wifi name and it will stop the
>> sharing, but it could take up to two hours to do so.
>>
>> That means to me, that they ignore the optout, store your password and
>> then dont give it out, but still keep it around.
>>
>> HOw the government would let this go on, is beyond me.
>>
>
>
> What if the Gov is complicit?
>
>
>
>> is every business going to have to change their access point names ?
>>
>> First windows 10  phone to enter the pentagon, will send out all the
>> passwords lmao.
>>
>> On Aug 17, 2015 7:00 AM, "Stephen Partington" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> ​While they are broad, these are all things you can turn on or
>>> off.​
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 6:57 AM, Keith Smith
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/windows-10-microsofts-big-data-grabbing-spying-os-bernard-marr
>>
>>> [1]
>>>>
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>>
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Re: Windows 10 – Microsoft’s Big Data-grabbing (or spying?) OS

[Bob Elzer]

Yes, you really don't  have a choice, even with optout it still gets sent.

And why do I have to change my cool looking wifi name, just to prevent
microsoft from spreading it.

With every security person telling you to protect your passwords, why are
there no lawyers suing MS for passing out our passwords like candy.

I just keep shaking my head about this one.
On Aug 18, 2015 6:33 AM, "Stephen Partington"  wrote:

> you get the choice of sharing with your friends. and it is specifically
> your friends only that get that information. My concern is if i bring my
> friend over and he is sharing his wifi ap information I do not get the
> option of who he shares with, just if it is shared.
>
> MS has said they are working on improving this feature due to concerns,
> but for now _optout is the only option.
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Bob Elzer  wrote:
>
>> Well wifi-sense will share your wifi password. What gets me is microsoft
>> is saving a database of all these passwords.
>>
>> They say you can add _optout to your wifi name and it will stop the
>> sharing, but it could take up to two hours to do so.
>>
>> That means to me, that they ignore the optout, store your password and
>> then dont give it out, but still keep it around.
>>
>> HOw the government would let this go on, is beyond me.
>>
>> is every business going to have to change their access point names ?
>>
>> First windows 10  phone to enter the pentagon, will send out all the
>> passwords lmao.
>> On Aug 17, 2015 7:00 AM, "Stephen Partington" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ​While they are broad, these are all things you can turn on or off.​
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 6:57 AM, Keith Smith 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/windows-10-microsofts-big-data-grabbing-spying-os-bernard-marr
>>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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Re: Windows 10 – Microsoft’s Big Data-grabbing (or spying?) OS

[Bob Elzer]

Well wifi-sense will share your wifi password. What gets me is microsoft is
saving a database of all these passwords.

They say you can add _optout to your wifi name and it will stop the
sharing, but it could take up to two hours to do so.

That means to me, that they ignore the optout, store your password and then
dont give it out, but still keep it around.

HOw the government would let this go on, is beyond me.

is every business going to have to change their access point names ?

First windows 10  phone to enter the pentagon, will send out all the
passwords lmao.
On Aug 17, 2015 7:00 AM, "Stephen Partington"  wrote:

> ​While they are broad, these are all things you can turn on or off.​
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 6:57 AM, Keith Smith 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/windows-10-microsofts-big-data-grabbing-spying-os-bernard-marr
>>
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>
>
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>
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Re: OT: Blocking Sites

[Bob Elzer]

Find out what games they are playing, then lookup those games and find out
what ports they use to communicate, then just block those port with the
router.

That makes sure the game wont connect, and you dont need the IP address of
every game server that is out there.
On Jul 7, 2015 1:47 PM, "AZ Pete"  wrote:

>  All,
>
> I have two boys who's video gaming on their laptops is out of control. If
> me or my wife aren't *constantly* looking over their shoulders, they will
> be playing games. And they are savvy enough to have their educational
> lessons open in one tab and games in another and alt-tab away from the game
> when we are walking past.
>
> I need a solution that will block their game sites, while still allowing
> access to all the other sites that are needed for school, lessons, research
> etc.
>
> Is there some method I can block DNS requests to certain domains, while
> keeping others active for only their computers? I want something *very
> easy* to set up and maintain that runs on Windows (all computers in my home
> network are Win based). I have a Windows file server I could load some kind
> of proxy software on and have the kids computers hit the proxy to resolve
> DNS calls. But again, I don't want to screw around with complex proxy
> servers, "net nanny" based software, etc. Also, simply editing their hosts
> file isn't terribly realistic either.
>
> Basically, I want a solution where I can easily enter a domain to be
> blocked (or removed for access) for only their PCs, without having to sink
> hours and hours into learning/configuring/maintaining some complex software
> solution. I'd also rather not have to load some kind of net-nanny software
> onto each of their computers (which would be a pain to constantly have to
> maintain the block list on each machine).
>
> Free/Open Source would be best, but I'll be willing to pay if the price is
> right.
>
> I'm at my wits end with this game addition (and yes it's an addiction) and
> need a solution.
>
> Any thoughts would be most appreciated.
>
> Peter
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Re: How to display multiple images in date sequence by file date?

[Bob Elzer]

Have you tried gthumb ?

It will sort them the way you want, its my favorite image program
On Jun 24, 2015 11:57 AM,  wrote:

> Joe asked:
> >> I have a directory/folder that contains several
> >> dozen image files, all with different file dates.
>
> >> How can I create a script that would display the images
> >> that those files represent (not just list the files)
> >> in date sequence from newest to oldest?
>
> ---
> Joseph Sinclair replied (in part):
>
> > for filename in "$(ls -lt)" ; do display-image "$filename" ; done
> >
> > replace display-image with your preferred image display tool.
>
> ---
>
> That  script is exactly what I was hoping for,
> but sadly, it didn't work for me.  What did I do wrong?
>
> When I put 7 small images in a folder to try that script,
> I got the result shown below:
>
> $ for filename in "$(ls -lt)" ; do display "$filename" ; done
> display: no decode delegate for this image format `15 z3.jpg
> -rw-rw-r- joe 4302 Jun 24 11:15 z5.jpg
> -rw-rw-r- joe 8878 Jun 24 11:15 z9.jpg
> -rw-rw-r- joe 6371 Jun 24 11:15 z8.jpg
> -rw-rw-r- joe 4518 Jun 24 11:15 z2.jpg
> -rw-rw-r- joe 6017 Jun 24 11:15 z1.jpg
> -rw-rw-r- joe 7554 Jun 24 11:15 z6.jpg
> -rw-rw-r- joe 5662 Jun 24 11:15 z7.jpg' @ error/constitute.c/ReadImage/532.
>
> See the results better in this screen capture:
> http://www.upquick.com/temp/decode.error.jpg
>
> The image shown is not one of my test images.
>
>
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Re: How to display multiple images in date sequence by file date?

[Bob Elzer]

ls -lt
On Jun 22, 2015 11:57 PM,  wrote:

> I have a directory/folder that contains several
> dozen image files, all with different file dates.
>
> How can I create a script that would display all
> those files in date sequence from newest to oldest?
>
>
>
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Re: OT: boric acid and foot fungus

[Bob Elzer]

I think you missed my point.

And I did use the word  "infer",  you've just given the entire list more
personal information that really isn't necessary for the discussion.

The only information anyone needs to know about you password is "yes I have
a secure password", even if you don't have one.

I didn't need to know where you live now and when you are moving, and you
don't have to have money in the bank for someone to steal your identity.

I had two points, think about if a topic is appropriate for where you are
posting it, and be careful what information you reveal.

If there are any cockroaches reading this list, I'm sure relative's of the
ones you killed 25 years ago are on the way to cottonwood now, so get  your
boric acid ready :-)

I know you take steps to protect your Linux system, I'm just saying you
should do the same with your personal information. Especially on a very
large mailing list that gets archived for all to see.
On Jun 9, 2015 8:11 AM, "Michael Havens"  wrote:

> sometimes my passwords are only four digits. sometimes they are up to
> fifteen. it all depends on how secure I need it to be. then again I don't
> have access to any top secret government info and if someone were to crack
> my bank account password they would see how truly poor I am! as for where I
> live I'm still in AZ until July and the cockroaches were from where I lived
> in Phoenix twenty five years ago in one apt complex. I've only seen a few
> cockroaches where I currently live and that was a while ago. the boric acid
> took care of that. I'm sure that where I live (cottonwood) also took care
> of it! They don't like this elevation.
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Bob Elzer  wrote:
>
>> Michael,
>>
>> You give way too much information out.
>>
>> From your posts I know or infer that you are living in Florida in a bug
>> infested place have dirty feet, an ex wife from south America, a kid, a
>> brother, do cabling, have a ten character password with letters numbers
>> special characters, which means I can skip about 16 million combinations
>> when using  a brute force attack.
>>
>> And you ask very good Linux questions.
>>
>> You also sometimes ask a question before trying to find the answer
>> yourself and then answer it five minutes later when you do Google it.
>>
>> When I joined this group I thought it was local, but quickly learned we
>> have followers all over. While I know most people on the  list are good
>> people I can't tell you that nobody would use this information against you.
>> No one knows everyone on the list. So you need to be careful about what
>> information you reveal.
>>
>> As for off topic stuff, if  someone posts one Linux question and ten off
>> topic questions over time people tend to see that as spam. Think of this
>> mailing list like the Usenet news groups, you don't post your star wars
>> questions in the star trek news group. Something like the boric acid
>> question is best suited for answers.com where it could also be asked
>> anonymously so people wouldn't know who might have dirty feet.
>>
>> Like I said you ask very good Linux questions, keep doing it, but be
>> careful what information you divulge in those questions, and think about
>> the topic, does it really belong in this "newsgroup" or a different
>> newsgroup.
>>  On Jun 8, 2015 12:47 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Putting "OT:" first on the subject line sometimes helps ...
>>>
>>> However, soaking fungus infected feet in a concoction
>>> of boric acid and alcohol is way, way too far removed
>>> from any possible relationship to anything pertaining
>>> to Linux or anything else in the wonderful world of tech.
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> == Michael Havens last wrote:
>>> > I had foot fungus until I soaked my feet in
>>> > 1 cp rubbing alcohol and 2 tsp of boric acid.
>>> > My feet would dry out and crack because of the stuff
>>> > living on my feet. I killed it with the above concoction.
>>> >
>>> > I want to share that with the Gainesville Linux group
>>> > but some are complaining about my non-linux conversations!
>>>
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Re: OT: boric acid and foot fungus

[Bob Elzer]

Michael,

You give way too much information out.

>From your posts I know or infer that you are living in Florida in a bug
infested place have dirty feet, an ex wife from south America, a kid, a
brother, do cabling, have a ten character password with letters numbers
special characters, which means I can skip about 16 million combinations
when using  a brute force attack.

And you ask very good Linux questions.

You also sometimes ask a question before trying to find the answer yourself
and then answer it five minutes later when you do Google it.

When I joined this group I thought it was local, but quickly learned we
have followers all over. While I know most people on the  list are good
people I can't tell you that nobody would use this information against you.
No one knows everyone on the list. So you need to be careful about what
information you reveal.

As for off topic stuff, if  someone posts one Linux question and ten off
topic questions over time people tend to see that as spam. Think of this
mailing list like the Usenet news groups, you don't post your star wars
questions in the star trek news group. Something like the boric acid
question is best suited for answers.com where it could also be asked
anonymously so people wouldn't know who might have dirty feet.

Like I said you ask very good Linux questions, keep doing it, but be
careful what information you divulge in those questions, and think about
the topic, does it really belong in this "newsgroup" or a different
newsgroup.
 On Jun 8, 2015 12:47 PM,  wrote:

> Putting "OT:" first on the subject line sometimes helps ...
>
> However, soaking fungus infected feet in a concoction
> of boric acid and alcohol is way, way too far removed
> from any possible relationship to anything pertaining
> to Linux or anything else in the wonderful world of tech.
>
>
> 
> == Michael Havens last wrote:
> > I had foot fungus until I soaked my feet in
> > 1 cp rubbing alcohol and 2 tsp of boric acid.
> > My feet would dry out and crack because of the stuff
> > living on my feet. I killed it with the above concoction.
> >
> > I want to share that with the Gainesville Linux group
> > but some are complaining about my non-linux conversations!
>
>
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Re: Looking for a VPN Provider

[Bob Elzer]

It says lifetime but the subscription says 100 years, I was planning on
living longer to test it.

I've only hooked it up to two devices so far. Ive done some downloading and
the speeds are fine. All seems good to me.

The only problem I've had was Google made me change my password to gmail.
My phone checked  for mail while I was connected through Europe.

They thought my account was compromised.
 On May 14, 2015 10:30 PM, "Mark Phillips" 
wrote:

> Bob,
>
> Is it really one time $39 for lifetime service and 5 simultaneous devices?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:30 PM, Bob Elzer  wrote:
>
>> I saw this deal on android authority and it's
>> still is in effect.
>>
>>
>> https://deals.androidauthority.com/sales/vpn-unlimited-lifetime-subscription
>>
>> It's been working fine and allows me to connect up to five different
>> devices.
>>
>> But its really not unlimited, its only good for 100 years lol
>> On May 14, 2015 4:28 PM, "Mark Phillips" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone have experience with ExpressVPN? Any recommendations for another
>>> VPN provider?
>>>
>>> My daughter will be studying in Germany this summer, and I felt she
>>> should have a VPN for her Mac and iPhone since she will be almost totally
>>> on WiFi at coffee shops.and she wants to be able to use Netflix...;)
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Mark
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Re: Looking for a VPN Provider

[Bob Elzer]

I saw this deal on android authority and it's
still is in effect.

https://deals.androidauthority.com/sales/vpn-unlimited-lifetime-subscription

It's been working fine and allows me to connect up to five different
devices.

But its really not unlimited, its only good for 100 years lol
On May 14, 2015 4:28 PM, "Mark Phillips"  wrote:

> Anyone have experience with ExpressVPN? Any recommendations for another
> VPN provider?
>
> My daughter will be studying in Germany this summer, and I felt she should
> have a VPN for her Mac and iPhone since she will be almost totally on WiFi
> at coffee shops.and she wants to be able to use Netflix...;)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mark
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Re: CHIP Computer Gives Raspberry Pi a Run For Its Money

[Bob Elzer]

Can I get a burger and give me a couple of chips with that instead of fries.
 On May 11, 2015 7:56 PM, "Keith Smith"  wrote:

>
>
> http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/chip-computer-raspberry-pi-run-money/story?id=30960130
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Re: Need a Linux tool to capture my own keystrokes ...

[Bob Elzer]

Is it the root login  ?

Ssh usually has root login disabled

Look for PermitRootLogin in /etc/ssh/sshd_config if that is the case
 On May 8, 2015 10:48 AM,  wrote:

> Thanks for all the helpful responses.
>
> Don't know why I didn't think of the copy-paste solution. Duh! ;)
>
> >> Now my concern: What I hear is: SSH likes me. FTP doesn't.
>
> Actually, ftp works fine, but it is ssh that is not accepting
> the same password on the same server. Strange.
>
> >> FTP should be disabled and SFTP should be used.
>
> Thanks for the advice. I've always used ftp to login to
> my webhost. but I'll start using sftp now.
>
>
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Re: OT: How to send an email anonymously ...

[Bob Elzer]

Go to a free WiFi hotspot, create a new gmail account. Send your neighbor
an email explaining what you told us. Say you heard it from someone at the
HOA
Now your neighbor knows they are on to  him, if he proceeds, and he is in
the wrong, then it's his own fault.

Email sent contains the IP address from where it is sent, so don't connect
to the new one from your house.

And don't use your real name as the new email address or he will figure out
it is you. :-P

This way you haven't done any thing illegal and haven't misrepresented
yourself as the HOA.
 On Apr 30, 2015 3:19 PM,  wrote:

> Every day, I receive email messages sent to me from fake sender email
> addresses, even spam garbage supposedly sent to me from my own email
> address.  How do they do that?
>
> While I have never done this before, I now have a need to do send an
> email completely anonymously (preferably using our homeowner association
> email address ;) and would like to know how this can be done safely and
> not illegally.
>
> To briefly explain, we have a neighbor who has poured the foundation to
> build a structure in his back yard (without obtaining a building permit)
> and if he should proceed, this non-compliant structure will cause him
> even greater expense and hardship if he is not prevented from proceeding.
> The size of the foundation makes it very obvious that the structure is
> not in compliance with either city building codes or HOA requirements.
>
> Needless to say, we want to avoid causing hard feelings with our
> neighbor, so we would like to be able to alert the city authorities
> *anonymously* in order to protect our neighbor from continuing and ending
> up with very costly consequences.
>
> Regrettably, our home owner's association has taken the position that
> they will indeed take the necessary corrective actions, including
> notifying the city building code department, once the building is built
> and visible from the street; however, they say that they will not take
> any action until the building is built and a "visible" violation has
> actually been committed.  How stupid is that?
>
> So, my question is, how can I send an email to the city building code
> enforcement department to alert them of the homeowner's failure to obtain
> a building permit so that the email will appear to be from our homeowner
> association?
>
> I have already spoken to them by phone, but they will not take any action
> until they receive a formal "complaint" via their online input form which
> requires submitting the name and contact information of whoever is filing
> the complaint.  They say that such reports are best and usually filed by
> HOAs and not by neighbors, to avoid needless conflicts.
>
> Obviously, I could just wait until my neighbor has spent all the money to
> build the structure and then have a prolonged legal action to force him
> to tear it down, but how much better to protect him from all that
> needless pain and expense?
>
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Re: firewall

[Bob Elzer]

My question would be, how many times a day does someone try to break into
your system ?

If you don't know the answer then maybe you should be running a firewall.

It really depends on whether your network is secure or not, usually what
secures your network is a firewall. If that's the one on your router then
that should be enough.

Looking in your log files for strange IP's and failed password attempts
will let you know if people are trying to get in, if you're running a web
server look in the error logs for attempts to access non existing files,
usually a bunch from the same IP.

Windows may have more vulnerabilities, but they will still try to break
into Linux systems.

Search and read about fail2ban, that's one tool to use when you need to
have a service open to the internet.

Hope this helps
 On Aug 26, 2014 8:15 PM, "Michael Havens"  wrote:

> I hear people say, "Even Linux users need a firewall."
> My question is. why? I've runlinux since '98 w/o a firewall (aside
> from the one sent with my modem/router). Isn't that good enough?
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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Re: Mathematics makes strong case that “snoopy2” can be just fine as a password

[Bob Elzer]

Damn it !!!  Now I have to change it again
 On Jul 18, 2014 2:44 PM, "Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr." <
mailing-li...@phoenixinternet.net> wrote:

>  Try snoopy3...
>
> Gilbert
>
> On 7/18/2014 9:59 AM, Bob Elzer wrote:
>
> Damn it, now I have to change my password from snoopy2
>  On Jul 17, 2014 7:50 AM,  wrote:
>
>>
>> Thought you might find this interesting.
>>
>>
>> http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/07/mathematics-makes-strong-case-that-snoopy2-can-be-just-fine-as-a-password/
>>
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