Re: wsl

2024-05-21 Thread Patrick Callahan via PLUG-discuss
WSL comes with a Wayland implementation called WSLg that provides a
rootless display server:
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/tutorials/gui-apps

That's probably the easiest way to run GUI apps. I would try that first.

Either way, you want a display server that runs outside the VM, on the
Windows side.

If you don't like WSLg you can try an X11 server for Windows. IIRC I've had
success with X410 and VcXsrv, but there's also Cygwin/X and Xming.

On Tue, May 21, 2024, 11:19 Michael via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> well, I'm stuck in a world of windows now. but I gots to use linux so I'm
> doing wsl. How do I get gui to work: I ran apt update/upgrade/xinit but it
> responds with:
>
> _XSERVTansmkdir: ModeX11-unix should 1777
> _XSERVTransCreateListener: failed...
> _XSERVTransUNIX...:failed
> _XSERVTransMakeALL... failed...
> etc
>
> So could someone help me get x going until I can get a beloved linux box
> again?
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Re: Chromium -vs- chrome on Linux Mint?

2015-06-01 Thread Patrick Callahan
Installing Chrome silently adds Google's repos to your system and doesn't
really offer any advantages over Chromium.
On Jun 1, 2015 4:31 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote:

 On my Linux Mint 17 system, the chromium browser was installed by default
 and it has seemed to work well for most things ... but I've been getting
 messages from Google that read: This version of Chrome is no longer
 supported. Please upgrade to a supported browser.

 So is it safe and prudent to install the Chrome browser to replace
 chromium?  I seem to remember reading a while back that there were
 problems with running the Chrome browser on Linux.

 Please advise what to do.




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Re: Fwd: Monitor

2015-02-14 Thread Patrick Callahan
How old is the kid and what do they know about their computer and its
software?
On Feb 14, 2015 6:38 PM, Wayne Davis wayda...@centurylink.net wrote:


  I want to monitor the screen of a machine remotely *AND* covertly - Both
 machines on same network, both running Kubuntu 14.10

 Child on machine.

 Suggestions?



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Re: do I understand this correctly?

2015-01-04 Thread Patrick Callahan
Yeah. Unstable means just means little or no testing downstream from the
maintainers of the software packaged. Software found in Debian unstable is
generally not beta software, but considered a 'stable' release upstream.
On Jan 4, 2015 1:06 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 is this the correct understanding  apt-get's stable/testing/unstable?
 If I'm wrong could you teach me?

 :-)~MIKE~(-:

 On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 12:27 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is it correct that with apt-get unstable refers to the amount of testing
 done with the system? I do not think it refers the alfa/beta status of the
 program.

 :-)~MIKE~(-:

 On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 to the mint forums I go! Thanks for your help Mark. I'll post what I
 find out there after I hear back from them.

 :-)~MIKE~(-:

 On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Mark Phillips 
 m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote:


 On Jan 3, 2015 11:14 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  so then, version is just for lower than the version that are in the
 apt-cache.

 Actually, the version you want has to be in your sources.list.

 glad I'm talking to you all about this because I just discovered that
 after you run package=version you need to run :
 
  sudo echo “package hold” | sudo dpkg –set-selections

 Only if you don't want the package upgraded at the next apt-get upgrade.

 
  I also discovered that to find the versions in the repository you
  run:
 
  apt-cache showpkg packagename
 
  so is there no way to force a version into apt-cache?

 The sources.list just says where to find a package. Sort of like a big
 phone book...if you don't have the white pages for Ajo, you can't find your
 friend's phone number who lives in Ajo. Once you get the Ajo book, you have
 access to everyone's phone number in Ajo, but you are only interested in
 your friend's number.

 Pinning tells apt to only use the 2011 edition of the Ajo phone book to
 look up your friend's phone number, even though you now subscribe to the
 latest version of the Ajo phone book. You still have all the latest phone
 numbers on hand, which does not impact your selection of the 2011 phone
 number for your friend's phone number.

 I just tried to force the installation of the unstable version of the
 package (sudo apt-get install kmymoney/unstable) but it seems as if it
 isn't called 'unstable' in mint (ubuntu). Am I doing it wrong? What are the
 Archives called in Mint (ubuntu)

 Sorry, I have never used mint. Just a long time Debian user who
 recently switched to Ubuntu for my desktop with my new laptop...It came
 pre-installed. ;-)

 Mark

 
  :-)~MIKE~(-:
 
  On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  help immensely. Thank you Mark.
 
  :-)~MIKE~(-:
 
  On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Mark Phillips 
 m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote:
 
  Michael,
 
  If all you have is the stable branch in your sources.list, then you
 won't have access to any of the testing packages, even if you specify
 testing on the command line with apt-get. apt-get has to know where to find
 the package you want to download, which is why sources.list exists. If you
 want to be able to install both testing and stable packages, then you have
 to have both stable and testing branches listed in your sources.list.
 
  If you want to hold a package to a specific version or branch
 (stable, testing, experimental), then you can pin that package to that
 version, and all future updates will only use that version. Take a look at
 http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html. However, you still have
 to have the correct repositories listed in sources.list, and you have to
 run an apt-get upgrade to update the local cache so the OS knows where to
 find the packages you want.
 
  Hope that helps!
 
  Mark
 
  On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:02 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  A specific version of a package can be selected for installation by
  following the package name with an equals (=) and the version of
 the package to select. This will cause that version to be located and
 selected for install. Alternatively, a specific distribution can be
 selected by following the package name with a slash (/) and the version of
 the distribution or the Archive name (i.e. stable, testing, unstable).
 
  source: http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get
 
 
  So this is saying to me you don't need the PPA to install the
 latest version but can instead do:
  package=version
 
  If that is so we don't need to add PPAs to our systems. IN other
 words PPAs are just a way to make it so that we are always running the
 latest version of the package regardless of if it works whereas we choose
 what we want to run with:
  package=version
  That is very Linuxy of them!
  :-)~MIKE~(-:
 
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Re: Why have HackFests been Dropped from the PLUG Schedule?

2014-12-03 Thread Patrick Callahan
Mockery of an individual for transgender identity or ambiguous gender
expression IS 'gender bias', and it's not okay. The notion that people
ought to be men or women and that certain kinds of men and women are the
right kinds to be is the very same one that drives the bias you're decrying.
On Dec 2, 2014 12:33 AM, Kaoru Wilbur m.kaoru.wil...@gmail.com wrote:

 hans,

 I am sorry you cannot take a joke.
 Of course, sexual harassment is no joking matter.
 Accusations of this are quite serious.

 I never witnessed anything or experienced sexual harassment.

 Gender bias is quite obvious in your LUG.

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 10:44 PM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote:

 Am 01. Dez, 2014 schwätzte Kaoru Wilbur so:

  Well, this was an interesting thread.
 I would like to chime in here for a moment.

 While I have not experienced unwanted sexually advances by anyone at PLUG
 in recent years, I will state there is a gender bias, definitely.

 Some people may not experience this gender bias because, well frankly, we
 are unsure of your gender...


 That's uncalled for, especially right as you're claiming there is gender
 bias.

  All joking aside, as a community, we really could be a little more
 thoughtful, tactful and less like assholes.


 Most of us do a good job. Over the years there have only been problems
 with a few people. Most adjust their behavior when it's pointed out.

 ciao,

 der.hans
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Re: Mint

2014-07-28 Thread Patrick Callahan
Mint is a project with a number of products, including one based directly
on Debian sid, called 'Mint Debian Edition'.
On Jul 28, 2014 6:00 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 mint is a ubuntu derivative which is a debian derivative.

 :-)~MIKE~(-:


 On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 5:17 PM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote:


 I keep hearing about Mint and some place I heard Mint and Debian in away
 that made me think maybe Mint is a Debian derivative.  Then I visited the
 website and it looks like Mint is actually Debian.  Could that be true?

 I have not used Debian for years.
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Re: OT: Then vs Now Programming WAS: Re: AMD vs Intel memory managemement

2013-06-13 Thread Patrick Callahan
It seems like this is a good thing. Not bothering with intense
hand-optimization means we can get more done and focus on designs that are
more flexible and easier to work with.
On Jun 13, 2013 12:31 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote:

 All of the above.  With the resources available, we don't bother
 programming with limited pages of memory or do much disk caching and other
 tricks to maximize.


 On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Nathan England nat...@nmecs.com wrote:

 **

 On Thursday, June 13, 2013 07:01:23 AM Lyle Tuttle wrote:

 In the 'old' days, I worked for the Atomic Energy Commission designing,
 building and maintaining computer controlled experiments using radiation
 from and located on the face of the reactor.our SDS mainframe G ran
 ALL experiments (including some x-ray diffraction projects in remote
 locations) in real-time..that computer had 16K core memory...and
 people came from all over the world to see what we were doingnow a
 watch has more memory.

 Time flies, and the only constant is change..








 Lyle has brought up a question that is interesting to me. I hear stories
 like this of these amazing things people did with computers 30 and 40 years
 ago and then the comment always comes up like And we only had xx kb of
 ram.



 So my question is, was programming in what ever language they used back
 then more efficient and today's languages are seriously bloated and require
 more ram, or do programmers today not know how to program as efficiently?



 Or what gives?

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Re: torrent

2013-01-25 Thread Patrick Callahan
Well, one difference is that if infringement _is_ committed, it's two
different violations under the law for torrents, and one for HTTP
downloads. Because torrenters download *and* upload, they can be charged
not only with violation by using the content without permission, but also
for distributing it (a charge with much higher penalties).

And another niggling thing: Linux is copyrighted. BSD is copyrighted. Every
creative work made in the US is automatically copyrighted.) So torrenting
definitely deals almost exclusively with copyrighted material. But not
every copyright belongs to a total dick, so... ;-)

Torrents are definitely a faster download for small projects (and often
projects hosted on servers which reside far, far away). The Blender Open
Movie projects are a good example here. The idea that torrents exist
exclusively to facilitate infringement is ridiculous.
On Jan 25, 2013 2:03 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote:

 Bittorrent is simply a way of efficiently moving large amounts of data
 from point A to point B.  There is nothing about it that promotes copyright
 infringement, any more than just downloading something off a webpage though
 HTTP... unless you are saying that doing things efficiently is inherently
 dishonest.

 Brian Cluff

 On 01/25/2013 11:01 AM, Joshua Zeidner wrote:

 It's not but people who use Torrent want to believe it's used for
 purposes OTHER than sharing copyrighted files.

 -jmz



 On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com
 mailto:bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 how is downloading from a torrent better than just from a single
 location?
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