Re: Catch the hand that is spying on me
Amazon sidewalk is what it was called.
https://www.consumerreports.org/electronics/wireless-networking/pros-and-cons-of-amazon-sidewalk-network-plus-how-to-opt-out-a9048278100/
On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 6:42 PM Stephen Partington
wrote:
> Note Amazon is building up a low power network across all their devices.
> That one creeps me out.
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024, 3:48 AM Rusty Carruth via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> However, if you make it obvious that you are looking at the thing, the
>> perpetrator might decide to take it back. Put up your own video
>> doorbell, and maybe even watch the street as well so you can tie the
>> perp to their vehicle.
>>
>> Triangulation is 'fun' - find some local neighborhood hams (amateur
>> radio people) who have done T-hunting (transmitter hunting) and they can
>> give you info, and maybe even have some equipment and time/inclination
>> to help.
>>
>> If they are using YOUR wifi, I'd freak out even more than you already
>> have, since either they've got some serious wifi hacking skills, your
>> wifi is set up very poorly, or they got inside your house.
>>
>> Have you filed a police report about the missing items? I assume they
>> weren't interested in the tech issue Who should be? Probably not
>> FBI or any other three-letter-government agency ;-)
>>
>> On the detection angle, I've been thinking that using a SDR USB dongle
>> and GnuRadio or similar, you should be able to hack together a
>> relatively useful spectrum analyzer. I've played with an SDR dongle and
>> GnuRadio and had no luck yet...
>>
>> I also just did a search and found a $49 spectrum analyzer and a $899
>> spectrum analyzer, should you wish to go buy one. "One of these days" I
>> hope to get me a working spectrum analyzer... ("But today is not that
>> day" ;-)
>>
>> On 4/5/24 08:36, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>> > I would never had thought of this type of scam. I hope you find the
>> > person or persons. I'm guessing it might be someone close to you.
>> > Yikes!!
>> >
>> > Several months ago there was a post on next door where a man had
>> > passed away and someone stole his gun safes. Heinous!!
>> >
>> > Is this camera ties into a subscription?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2024-04-04 19:00, Mike Bushroe via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>> >> I have been lurking for a long time and just returned from a 10 month
>> >> session in hospitals, extended care facilities, other hospitals, rehab
>> >> places, more nursing care, other hospitals etc after having a major
>> >> brain injury and brain surgery. During this time my sisters have been
>> >> feeding the cats and spending a little bit of time looking after the
>> >> place. During this time the doorbell had shorted out and a new
>> >> wireless doorbell put in its place. When I found out about I asked my
>> >> sisters how had put it in so I could find the user's manual to see how
>> >> to convert it to my system. Only none of them knew anything about it,
>> >> just assumed that one of the others had put it in.
>> >> Now I am facing the problem of someone having secure access to my
>> >> front door. And while I have
>> >>
>> >> been gone for so long things, including expensive things have gone
>> >> missing. Some locked up but with hours or days of knowing when no one
>> >> will be there can make it easy to get to.
>> >> So what I am hoping for is if someone knows of a program to detect
>> >> when something transmits from a few inches away and then some way to
>> >> triangulate on where else that network is coming from. It seems
>> >> unlikely that anyone else within range would also not notice a
>> >> wireless doorbell suddenly showing on their front door. Perhaps even
>> >> just wireshark watching for which WiFi groups suddenly light up when
>> >> somebody walks in front of the camera. Such as CoxHiFi, Nighthawk.
>> >>
>> >> Sorry for the long gap between messages and then the big request.
>> >>
>> >> Mike Bushroe
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >>KINDNESS
>> >>
>> >> is most VALUABLE when it is GIVEN AWAY for
>> >>
>> >>FREE
>> >> ---
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Re: Catch the hand that is spying on me
On 4/10/24 15:42, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: Note Amazon is building up a low power network across all their devices. That one creeps me out. On Tue, Apr 9, 2024, 3:48 AM Rusty Carruth via PLUG-discuss wrote: However, if you make it obvious that you are looking at the thing, the perpetrator might decide to take it back. Put up your own video doorbell, and maybe even watch the street as well so you can tie the perp to their vehicle. Triangulation is 'fun' - find some local neighborhood hams (amateur radio people) who have done T-hunting (transmitter hunting) and they can give you info, and maybe even have some equipment and time/inclination to help. We call that foxhunting. The fox being the hidden transmitter. Most of the time somebody in the group that's participating hides the transmitter, and waits nearby to keep an eye on it. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Catch the hand that is spying on me
Note Amazon is building up a low power network across all their devices.
That one creeps me out.
On Tue, Apr 9, 2024, 3:48 AM Rusty Carruth via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> However, if you make it obvious that you are looking at the thing, the
> perpetrator might decide to take it back. Put up your own video
> doorbell, and maybe even watch the street as well so you can tie the
> perp to their vehicle.
>
> Triangulation is 'fun' - find some local neighborhood hams (amateur
> radio people) who have done T-hunting (transmitter hunting) and they can
> give you info, and maybe even have some equipment and time/inclination
> to help.
>
> If they are using YOUR wifi, I'd freak out even more than you already
> have, since either they've got some serious wifi hacking skills, your
> wifi is set up very poorly, or they got inside your house.
>
> Have you filed a police report about the missing items? I assume they
> weren't interested in the tech issue Who should be? Probably not
> FBI or any other three-letter-government agency ;-)
>
> On the detection angle, I've been thinking that using a SDR USB dongle
> and GnuRadio or similar, you should be able to hack together a
> relatively useful spectrum analyzer. I've played with an SDR dongle and
> GnuRadio and had no luck yet...
>
> I also just did a search and found a $49 spectrum analyzer and a $899
> spectrum analyzer, should you wish to go buy one. "One of these days" I
> hope to get me a working spectrum analyzer... ("But today is not that
> day" ;-)
>
> On 4/5/24 08:36, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> > I would never had thought of this type of scam. I hope you find the
> > person or persons. I'm guessing it might be someone close to you.
> > Yikes!!
> >
> > Several months ago there was a post on next door where a man had
> > passed away and someone stole his gun safes. Heinous!!
> >
> > Is this camera ties into a subscription?
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2024-04-04 19:00, Mike Bushroe via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> >> I have been lurking for a long time and just returned from a 10 month
> >> session in hospitals, extended care facilities, other hospitals, rehab
> >> places, more nursing care, other hospitals etc after having a major
> >> brain injury and brain surgery. During this time my sisters have been
> >> feeding the cats and spending a little bit of time looking after the
> >> place. During this time the doorbell had shorted out and a new
> >> wireless doorbell put in its place. When I found out about I asked my
> >> sisters how had put it in so I could find the user's manual to see how
> >> to convert it to my system. Only none of them knew anything about it,
> >> just assumed that one of the others had put it in.
> >> Now I am facing the problem of someone having secure access to my
> >> front door. And while I have
> >>
> >> been gone for so long things, including expensive things have gone
> >> missing. Some locked up but with hours or days of knowing when no one
> >> will be there can make it easy to get to.
> >> So what I am hoping for is if someone knows of a program to detect
> >> when something transmits from a few inches away and then some way to
> >> triangulate on where else that network is coming from. It seems
> >> unlikely that anyone else within range would also not notice a
> >> wireless doorbell suddenly showing on their front door. Perhaps even
> >> just wireshark watching for which WiFi groups suddenly light up when
> >> somebody walks in front of the camera. Such as CoxHiFi, Nighthawk.
> >>
> >> Sorry for the long gap between messages and then the big request.
> >>
> >> Mike Bushroe
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>KINDNESS
> >>
> >> is most VALUABLE when it is GIVEN AWAY for
> >>
> >>FREE
> >> ---
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Re: Catch the hand that is spying on me
However, if you make it obvious that you are looking at the thing, the
perpetrator might decide to take it back. Put up your own video
doorbell, and maybe even watch the street as well so you can tie the
perp to their vehicle.
Triangulation is 'fun' - find some local neighborhood hams (amateur
radio people) who have done T-hunting (transmitter hunting) and they can
give you info, and maybe even have some equipment and time/inclination
to help.
If they are using YOUR wifi, I'd freak out even more than you already
have, since either they've got some serious wifi hacking skills, your
wifi is set up very poorly, or they got inside your house.
Have you filed a police report about the missing items? I assume they
weren't interested in the tech issue Who should be? Probably not
FBI or any other three-letter-government agency ;-)
On the detection angle, I've been thinking that using a SDR USB dongle
and GnuRadio or similar, you should be able to hack together a
relatively useful spectrum analyzer. I've played with an SDR dongle and
GnuRadio and had no luck yet...
I also just did a search and found a $49 spectrum analyzer and a $899
spectrum analyzer, should you wish to go buy one. "One of these days" I
hope to get me a working spectrum analyzer... ("But today is not that
day" ;-)
On 4/5/24 08:36, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
I would never had thought of this type of scam. I hope you find the
person or persons. I'm guessing it might be someone close to you.
Yikes!!
Several months ago there was a post on next door where a man had
passed away and someone stole his gun safes. Heinous!!
Is this camera ties into a subscription?
On 2024-04-04 19:00, Mike Bushroe via PLUG-discuss wrote:
I have been lurking for a long time and just returned from a 10 month
session in hospitals, extended care facilities, other hospitals, rehab
places, more nursing care, other hospitals etc after having a major
brain injury and brain surgery. During this time my sisters have been
feeding the cats and spending a little bit of time looking after the
place. During this time the doorbell had shorted out and a new
wireless doorbell put in its place. When I found out about I asked my
sisters how had put it in so I could find the user's manual to see how
to convert it to my system. Only none of them knew anything about it,
just assumed that one of the others had put it in.
Now I am facing the problem of someone having secure access to my
front door. And while I have
been gone for so long things, including expensive things have gone
missing. Some locked up but with hours or days of knowing when no one
will be there can make it easy to get to.
So what I am hoping for is if someone knows of a program to detect
when something transmits from a few inches away and then some way to
triangulate on where else that network is coming from. It seems
unlikely that anyone else within range would also not notice a
wireless doorbell suddenly showing on their front door. Perhaps even
just wireshark watching for which WiFi groups suddenly light up when
somebody walks in front of the camera. Such as CoxHiFi, Nighthawk.
Sorry for the long gap between messages and then the big request.
Mike Bushroe
--
KINDNESS
is most VALUABLE when it is GIVEN AWAY for
FREE
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Re: Catch the hand that is spying on me
I would never had thought of this type of scam. I hope you find the person or persons. I'm guessing it might be someone close to you. Yikes!! Several months ago there was a post on next door where a man had passed away and someone stole his gun safes. Heinous!! Is this camera ties into a subscription? On 2024-04-04 19:00, Mike Bushroe via PLUG-discuss wrote: I have been lurking for a long time and just returned from a 10 month session in hospitals, extended care facilities, other hospitals, rehab places, more nursing care, other hospitals etc after having a major brain injury and brain surgery. During this time my sisters have been feeding the cats and spending a little bit of time looking after the place. During this time the doorbell had shorted out and a new wireless doorbell put in its place. When I found out about I asked my sisters how had put it in so I could find the user's manual to see how to convert it to my system. Only none of them knew anything about it, just assumed that one of the others had put it in. Now I am facing the problem of someone having secure access to my front door. And while I have been gone for so long things, including expensive things have gone missing. Some locked up but with hours or days of knowing when no one will be there can make it easy to get to. So what I am hoping for is if someone knows of a program to detect when something transmits from a few inches away and then some way to triangulate on where else that network is coming from. It seems unlikely that anyone else within range would also not notice a wireless doorbell suddenly showing on their front door. Perhaps even just wireshark watching for which WiFi groups suddenly light up when somebody walks in front of the camera. Such as CoxHiFi, Nighthawk. Sorry for the long gap between messages and then the big request. Mike Bushroe -- KINDNESS is most VALUABLE when it is GIVEN AWAY for FREE --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Catch the hand that is spying on me
Welcome back! Sorry to hear about the injury. The tools to do this are not cheap (based on my personal knowledge) but if it is attached to your wifi then Wireshark is where I would go with it. If it has some level of camera etc then I would look at the device and see what kind of model it is and if it ties to a service or just a local device. On Thu, Apr 4, 2024, 10:01 PM Mike Bushroe via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > I have been lurking for a long time and just returned from a 10 month > session in hospitals, extended care facilities, other hospitals, rehab > places, more nursing care, other hospitals etc after having a major brain > injury and brain surgery. During this time my sisters have been feeding the > cats and spending a little bit of time looking after the place. During this > time the doorbell had shorted out and a new wireless doorbell put in its > place. When I found out about I asked my sisters how had put it in so I > could find the user's manual to see how to convert it to my system. Only > none of them knew anything about it, just assumed that one of the others > had put it in. > Now I am facing the problem of someone having secure access to my front > door. And while I have > been gone for so long things, including expensive things have gone > missing. Some locked up but with hours or days of knowing when no one will > be there can make it easy to get to. > So what I am hoping for is if someone knows of a program to detect when > something transmits from a few inches away and then some way to triangulate > on where else that network is coming from. It seems unlikely that anyone > else within range would also not notice a wireless doorbell suddenly > showing on their front door. Perhaps even just wireshark watching for which > WiFi groups suddenly light up when somebody walks in front of the camera. > Such as CoxHiFi, Nighthawk. > > Sorry for the long gap between messages and then the big request. > > Mike Bushroe > > > -- > >KINDNESS > > is most VALUABLE when it is GIVEN AWAY for > >FREE > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Catch the hand that is spying on me
Well that's disturbing. Glad to hear you're back with us, the world can't afford to lose a Linux nerd! We're a precious commodity!!! The first thing I would do is see if it's actually transmitting. Any RF analyzer from Amazon should be able to tell you, and what frequency it's on, if it is. That'll tell you quickly if it's a WiFi thing or a wireless video thing. If it's WiFi thing, there a few NetSec tricks (like de-auth packet attack) that can help you to see what network its on, or what it's trying to connect to If it's Wireless video, super-creeper mode, then that same RF Analyzer can probably do some basic jamming. As far as RF triangulation, that's too far outside my wheelhouse to speak intelligently, sorry. -- Thanks, Alexander Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro On Thu, Apr 4, 2024, 19:01 Mike Bushroe via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > I have been lurking for a long time and just returned from a 10 month > session in hospitals, extended care facilities, other hospitals, rehab > places, more nursing care, other hospitals etc after having a major brain > injury and brain surgery. During this time my sisters have been feeding the > cats and spending a little bit of time looking after the place. During this > time the doorbell had shorted out and a new wireless doorbell put in its > place. When I found out about I asked my sisters how had put it in so I > could find the user's manual to see how to convert it to my system. Only > none of them knew anything about it, just assumed that one of the others > had put it in. > Now I am facing the problem of someone having secure access to my front > door. And while I have > been gone for so long things, including expensive things have gone > missing. Some locked up but with hours or days of knowing when no one will > be there can make it easy to get to. > So what I am hoping for is if someone knows of a program to detect when > something transmits from a few inches away and then some way to triangulate > on where else that network is coming from. It seems unlikely that anyone > else within range would also not notice a wireless doorbell suddenly > showing on their front door. Perhaps even just wireshark watching for which > WiFi groups suddenly light up when somebody walks in front of the camera. > Such as CoxHiFi, Nighthawk. > > Sorry for the long gap between messages and then the big request. > > Mike Bushroe > > > -- > >KINDNESS > > is most VALUABLE when it is GIVEN AWAY for > >FREE > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Catch the hand that is spying on me
I have been lurking for a long time and just returned from a 10 month session in hospitals, extended care facilities, other hospitals, rehab places, more nursing care, other hospitals etc after having a major brain injury and brain surgery. During this time my sisters have been feeding the cats and spending a little bit of time looking after the place. During this time the doorbell had shorted out and a new wireless doorbell put in its place. When I found out about I asked my sisters how had put it in so I could find the user's manual to see how to convert it to my system. Only none of them knew anything about it, just assumed that one of the others had put it in. Now I am facing the problem of someone having secure access to my front door. And while I have been gone for so long things, including expensive things have gone missing. Some locked up but with hours or days of knowing when no one will be there can make it easy to get to. So what I am hoping for is if someone knows of a program to detect when something transmits from a few inches away and then some way to triangulate on where else that network is coming from. It seems unlikely that anyone else within range would also not notice a wireless doorbell suddenly showing on their front door. Perhaps even just wireshark watching for which WiFi groups suddenly light up when somebody walks in front of the camera. Such as CoxHiFi, Nighthawk. Sorry for the long gap between messages and then the big request. Mike Bushroe -- KINDNESS is most VALUABLE when it is GIVEN AWAY for FREE --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
