Re: LinuxMint Question
if 17.2 doesn't work try 17.1 On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Parabellum7 wrote: > "LinuxMint Cinnamon or LinuxMint Mate ... So my question is, which is > better for a complete noob to linux? He really is only interested in > LibreOffice, Chrome and maybe Firefox." > > > Hi Nathan, > > > If the machine is higher-spec then either one should work well so it would > be mostly a matter of preference. Pretty much any app will run under either > desktop. > > If the machine is lower-spec, you'll find that Mate is a lighter desktop. > It's clean, logically arranged and somewhat resembles the Windows XP menu > system. I tend to advise Mate. > > Changes were made to version 17.2 (all desktops) which seem to be causing > erratic operation on a fair number of machines. It seems to be related to > the default activation of desktop animations and compiz, something which I > find very annoying. > > Many people seem to be liking it, I'd just say if you go with v17.2 you > might want to test drive it thoroughly so your noob's first Linux > experience isn't a bad one. > > > --Kenn > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: LinuxMint Question
"LinuxMint Cinnamon or LinuxMint Mate ... So my question is, which is better for a complete noob to linux? He really is only interested in LibreOffice, Chrome and maybe Firefox." Hi Nathan, If the machine is higher-spec then either one should work well so it would be mostly a matter of preference. Pretty much any app will run under either desktop. If the machine is lower-spec, you'll find that Mate is a lighter desktop. It's clean, logically arranged and somewhat resembles the Windows XP menu system. I tend to advise Mate. Changes were made to version 17.2 (all desktops) which seem to be causing erratic operation on a fair number of machines. It seems to be related to the default activation of desktop animations and compiz, something which I find very annoying. Many people seem to be liking it, I'd just say if you go with v17.2 you might want to test drive it thoroughly so your noob's first Linux experience isn't a bad one. --Kenn --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
LMDE vs main-edition Mint for those new to Linux, was: LinuxMint Question
Michael Havens http://lists.phxlinux.org/lurker/message/20151029.223419.f8d4ef0a.en.html > last year I put Linux Mint Debian Edition on my brother's xp computer and it > ran beautifully I like LMDE a lot, have been running it since it went public (~3 years ago? I forget), and have tried to help support it. That being said: IMHO (YMMV) concepts relating to packaging, repositories, dependencies, and the like (I should be able to summarize this in one word, but nothing comes to mind) will represent the major mental hurdle for almost anyone transitioning from a win* to a Linux distro. (I say "almost," since there may be * win* users that ran Cygwin, which has its own packaging system. This is one more way in which Cygwin is the gateway drug for Linux :-) * distros that lack a packaging system. Still? ) Hence I would start a recovering Windozer on a distro that makes packaging more transparent (like main-edition Mint, or Ubuntu on which it's based) rather than on LMDE, where (IMHO) one is expected to have a fairly strong understanding of and experience with Debian packaging and the APT-based toolset. Once the user gets that experience, and provided either s/he wants to get more b/leading edge or s/he gets sufficiently annoyed with periodic reinstalls, *then and only then* would I recommend transitioning main-edition -> LMDE. HTH, Tom Roche --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: LinuxMint Question
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Joseph Sinclair < > plug-discuss...@stcaz.net> wrote: >> >> >> My recommendation (lacking more information): >> Check the hardware, if it's reasonably recent then Mate or Cinnamon is >> fine, if it's really old or slow (older than 2010, or slower than a 2010 >> AMD A4 APU), then something with LXDE (e.g. lubuntu) might work better, but >> there are some tradeoffs for the lighter desktop. >> > > As far as this is concerned last year I put Linux Mint Debian Edition > on my brother's xp computer and it ran beautifully. > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > If he doesn't want to manually update the computer write a cron job that will run in the background everyday at noon or so (when everyone is at lunch). -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: LinuxMint Question
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Joseph Sinclair wrote: > > > My recommendation (lacking more information): > Check the hardware, if it's reasonably recent then Mate or Cinnamon is > fine, if it's really old or slow (older than 2010, or slower than a 2010 > AMD A4 APU), then something with LXDE (e.g. lubuntu) might work better, but > there are some tradeoffs for the lighter desktop. > As far as this is concerned last year I put Linux Mint Debian Edition on my brother's xp computer and it ran beautifully. -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: LinuxMint Question
1) What is the end user coming from? Windows UI has changed extremely dramatically in the last couple releases. 2) What's the hardware? I have Mint/Mate running very fast on a 2010 AMD A8 quad core APU, anything equal to or faster than that (with at least 4G RAM) should work beautifully for any current Linux desktop (Mate, Cinnamon, KDE, Gnome3, Unity, etc...). 3) Does your pastor prefer the (current) Windows tile interface, the Apple (mobile-inspired) full-screen-only interface, or the older (and vastly more functional) windowed interfaces (both Windows and Apple). 4) Is your pastor working on a laptop or a desktop? For always-connected desktop use, it may work better to install something ultra-simple like ChromeOS which eliminates all maintenance (fully automagic self-update) and will maintain documents in the cloud (although you can explicitly store things locally if needed). My recommendation (lacking more information): Check the hardware, if it's reasonably recent then Mate or Cinnamon is fine, if it's really old or slow (older than 2010, or slower than a 2010 AMD A4 APU), then something with LXDE (e.g. lubuntu) might work better, but there are some tradeoffs for the lighter desktop. If the user prefers the current "mobile-inspired" desktops from MS or Apple, then you may want to look at something like Unity (which has the same design esthetic). If the user wants the more functional (but less "pretty") UI of prior generations of desktops, then Cinnamon is more Apple-esque, Mate is more like Windows-XP, and KDE offers massive additional functionality (at the cost of significant additional resource usage). Whatever you do, make sure you give the end user a chance to try a couple options and see which he/she likes best. Discovering you have choices in the basic interface and interaction with the system (and can choose the one you like best without negative consequence) can go a long way toward helping the user migrate to the Linux ecosystem. On 10/29/2015 12:22 AM, Nathan England wrote: > > My Pastor told me tonight he's had enough of Windows and wants to go to Linux. > I was impressed he even knew it existed, but that's beside the point. It left > me with a hard question... > > LinuxMint Cinnamon or LinuxMint Mate > > First impressions I like that Mate shows program descriptions (thinking it > might be easier for him to find things) and I can drag and drop applications > from the menu right to the desktop. > > But Cinnamon really looks nice and has the latest libraries. > > So my question is, which is better for a complete noob to linux? > He really is only interested in LibreOffice, Chrome and maybe Firefox. > > > > > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: LinuxMint Question
I run mint-mate and I hear about people who lose input devices and such. I have never had a problem with mint where I lose devices after an update. Mint-mate has been rock-solid for as long as I can remember. On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Matt Graham wrote: > On 2015-10-29 13:10, Nathan England wrote: > >> I appreciate your input. I go back and forth between xfce and kde >> because I personally really really love the glitchy pig, but sometimes >> I need to get work done more than mess with windows resizing and >> screens blacking out. >> > > I've been using Gentoo and KDE exclusively since 2004 on a bunch of > different machines, and SuSE and KDE before that. KDE's heavier than some > things. However, Gentoo's KDE has only been glitchy for me during the > early 4.x releases. > > Are other distros building their KDE packages from the unstable > super-latest stuff the devs have typed in or something? I've had more > problems with Xorg than with KDE over the last few years. (This is usually > because in Gentoo the Xorg server doesn't necessarily depend on the > keyboard and mouse Xorg modules. So updating Xorg may not update the > keyboard and mouse modules, so the next time you restart X, *poof* no input > devices.) > > -- > Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress > There is no Darkness in Eternity > But only Light too dim for us to see. > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: LinuxMint Question
On 2015-10-29 13:10, Nathan England wrote: I appreciate your input. I go back and forth between xfce and kde because I personally really really love the glitchy pig, but sometimes I need to get work done more than mess with windows resizing and screens blacking out. I've been using Gentoo and KDE exclusively since 2004 on a bunch of different machines, and SuSE and KDE before that. KDE's heavier than some things. However, Gentoo's KDE has only been glitchy for me during the early 4.x releases. Are other distros building their KDE packages from the unstable super-latest stuff the devs have typed in or something? I've had more problems with Xorg than with KDE over the last few years. (This is usually because in Gentoo the Xorg server doesn't necessarily depend on the keyboard and mouse Xorg modules. So updating Xorg may not update the keyboard and mouse modules, so the next time you restart X, *poof* no input devices.) -- Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress There is no Darkness in Eternity But only Light too dim for us to see. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: LinuxMint Question
Nathan England http://lists.phxlinux.org/lurker/message/20151029.072202.d35d5bf9.en.html >> My Pastor told me tonight he's had enough of Windows and wants to go to >> Linux[, which leaves me] with a hard question... LinuxMint Cinnamon or >> LinuxMint Mate[?] Shouldn't your question be, "What Would Jesus Install" ?-) Stephen Partington http://lists.phxlinux.org/lurker/message/20151029.135618.c0e00ba1.en.html > Dont forget that there are options for live cd's Better yet, LiveUSBs: why waste plastic? See, e.g., https://bitbucket.org/tlroche/install_resizable_encrypted_lmde/src/HEAD/create_LMDE_liveUSB.rst . As the URI indicates, my interest is LMDE, but the doc includes instructions for Live-ing a main-edition Rebecca ISO, which should adapt easily to Rafaela), as well as some other useful utilities. > so he can try both and ... pray for divine guidance ?-) HTH, Tom Roche --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: LinuxMint Question
I appreciate your input. I go back and forth between xfce and kde because I personally really really love the glitchy pig, but sometimes I need to get work done more than mess with windows resizing and screens blacking out. I will look at lxde. On 2015-10-29 08:56, Steve Litt wrote: On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 00:22:02 -0700 Nathan England wrote: My Pastor told me tonight he's had enough of Windows and wants to go to Linux. [snip] LinuxMint Cinnamon or LinuxMint Mate [snip] So my question is, which is better for a complete noob to linux? He really is only interested in LibreOffice, Chrome and maybe Firefox. LXDE. IIRC, those Mint front ends had those warm and fuzzy "we're gonna guess what you want next" interfaces. Some people like that, but my take is that logical thinking people just want a static menu that always navigates the same and gives them what they want without upselling. In other words, a Windows 9x start menu. KDE, Xfce and LXDE have those. KDE's a glitchy pig. Xfce is nice, but it's kind of resource expensive and my 4+ year experience with Xfce is that it sometimes does bizarre, glitchy stuff. My (maybe a year, all told) experience with LXDE is it's completely reliable, low resource, and works perfectly alongside an intelligent person. As a huge added plus, it's trivial to add dmenu to LXDE so that to run most programs, one's fingers don't even have to leave the keyboard. By the way, I use Openbox, but I think that's not discoverable enough for the average user. SteveT Steve Litt October 2015 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: LinuxMint Question
How is Ubuntu close enough to Windows? I mean KDE at least has a panel with a task bar and such, but doesn't Ubuntu use Unity? I've always been curious why so many throughout the recent past have said that Gnome was closest to Windows when KDE has always been more windows like. Even today, I recently read an article where the author mentioned the similarities between the look and style of Windows and Gnome shell... uhm, what? If anything, Gnome shell is a complete rip off of OS X. Is there something I'm missing? On 2015-10-29 07:36, Mark Phillips wrote: +1 for Ubuntu. Close enough to Windows that the learning curve is low. Enforces sudo from the command line, so harder to make fatal mistakes when one has not had enough coffee;) Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: LinuxMint Question
Yeah, but I wouldn't let him within a mile of Unity. SteveT On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 07:36:46 -0700 Mark Phillips wrote: > +1 for Ubuntu. Close enough to Windows that the learning curve is low. > Enforces sudo from the command line, so harder to make fatal mistakes > when one has not had enough coffee;) > > Mark > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Michael Havens > wrote: > > > regarding mate/cinnamon: will his hardware support cinnamon? if > > there is any doubt I would put mate on his system so it dos not > > leave a bad taste in his mouth for linux. > > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Stephen Partington > > wrote: > > > >> Dont forget that there are options for live cd's so he can try > >> both and see which he likes the most. > >> > >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:41 AM, Phil Waclawski < > >> phil.waclaw...@mesacc.edu> wrote: > >> > >>> Well, if he's never used Linux before, one of the desktop friendly > >>> distros (Mint, Ubuntu, Kubuntu) is definitely where to start, but > >>> the big help would be someone helping with the initial setup. > >>> Find out what they want. Show them how to find and install > >>> software, how to set up basic internet connections and so on. > >>> > >>> That may be of more use than the particular distro (so long as > >>> you pick a desktop friendly one. ;) > >>> > >>> Phil W > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:22 AM, Nathan England > >>> wrote: > >>> > > My Pastor told me tonight he's had enough of Windows and wants > to go to Linux. > I was impressed he even knew it existed, but that's beside the > point. It left me with a hard question... > > LinuxMint Cinnamon or LinuxMint Mate > > First impressions I like that Mate shows program descriptions > (thinking it might be easier for him to find things) and I can > drag and drop applications from the menu right to the desktop. > > But Cinnamon really looks nice and has the latest libraries. > > So my question is, which is better for a complete noob to linux? > He really is only interested in LibreOffice, Chrome and maybe > Firefox. > > > > > > -- > Nathan England > nengl...@nmecs.com > http://www.nmecs.com/ > Web Developer, Lamp Administrator > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > >>> > >>> > >>> --- > >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you > >> from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze > >> button. > >> > >> Stephen > >> > >> > >> --- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > > --- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: LinuxMint Question
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 00:22:02 -0700 Nathan England wrote: > > My Pastor told me tonight he's had enough of Windows and wants to go > to Linux. [snip] > LinuxMint Cinnamon or LinuxMint Mate [snip] > So my question is, which is better for a complete noob to linux? > He really is only interested in LibreOffice, Chrome and maybe Firefox. LXDE. IIRC, those Mint front ends had those warm and fuzzy "we're gonna guess what you want next" interfaces. Some people like that, but my take is that logical thinking people just want a static menu that always navigates the same and gives them what they want without upselling. In other words, a Windows 9x start menu. KDE, Xfce and LXDE have those. KDE's a glitchy pig. Xfce is nice, but it's kind of resource expensive and my 4+ year experience with Xfce is that it sometimes does bizarre, glitchy stuff. My (maybe a year, all told) experience with LXDE is it's completely reliable, low resource, and works perfectly alongside an intelligent person. As a huge added plus, it's trivial to add dmenu to LXDE so that to run most programs, one's fingers don't even have to leave the keyboard. By the way, I use Openbox, but I think that's not discoverable enough for the average user. SteveT Steve Litt October 2015 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: LinuxMint Question
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 00:41:45 -0700 Phil Waclawski wrote: > Well, if he's never used Linux before, one of the desktop friendly > distros (Mint, Ubuntu, Kubuntu) is definitely where to start, but the > big help would be someone helping with the initial setup. Find out > what they want. Show them how to find and install software, how to > set up basic internet connections and so on. > > That may be of more use than the particular distro (so long as you > pick a desktop friendly one. ;) > > Phil W For people who just want a handy computer and don't care what's inside it, I usually recommend Lubuntu. Works every time. SteveT Steve Litt October 2015 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: LinuxMint Question
+1 for Ubuntu. Close enough to Windows that the learning curve is low. Enforces sudo from the command line, so harder to make fatal mistakes when one has not had enough coffee;) Mark On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Michael Havens wrote: > regarding mate/cinnamon: will his hardware support cinnamon? if there is > any doubt I would put mate on his system so it dos not leave a bad taste in > his mouth for linux. > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Stephen Partington > wrote: > >> Dont forget that there are options for live cd's so he can try both and >> see which he likes the most. >> >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:41 AM, Phil Waclawski < >> phil.waclaw...@mesacc.edu> wrote: >> >>> Well, if he's never used Linux before, one of the desktop friendly >>> distros (Mint, Ubuntu, Kubuntu) is definitely where to start, but the big >>> help would be someone helping with the initial setup. Find out what they >>> want. Show them how to find and install software, how to set up basic >>> internet connections and so on. >>> >>> That may be of more use than the particular distro (so long as you pick >>> a desktop friendly one. ;) >>> >>> Phil W >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:22 AM, Nathan England >>> wrote: >>> My Pastor told me tonight he's had enough of Windows and wants to go to Linux. I was impressed he even knew it existed, but that's beside the point. It left me with a hard question... LinuxMint Cinnamon or LinuxMint Mate First impressions I like that Mate shows program descriptions (thinking it might be easier for him to find things) and I can drag and drop applications from the menu right to the desktop. But Cinnamon really looks nice and has the latest libraries. So my question is, which is better for a complete noob to linux? He really is only interested in LibreOffice, Chrome and maybe Firefox. -- Nathan England nengl...@nmecs.com http://www.nmecs.com/ Web Developer, Lamp Administrator --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >> >> Stephen >> >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: LinuxMint Question
regarding mate/cinnamon: will his hardware support cinnamon? if there is any doubt I would put mate on his system so it dos not leave a bad taste in his mouth for linux. On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Stephen Partington wrote: > Dont forget that there are options for live cd's so he can try both and > see which he likes the most. > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:41 AM, Phil Waclawski < > phil.waclaw...@mesacc.edu> wrote: > >> Well, if he's never used Linux before, one of the desktop friendly >> distros (Mint, Ubuntu, Kubuntu) is definitely where to start, but the big >> help would be someone helping with the initial setup. Find out what they >> want. Show them how to find and install software, how to set up basic >> internet connections and so on. >> >> That may be of more use than the particular distro (so long as you pick a >> desktop friendly one. ;) >> >> Phil W >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:22 AM, Nathan England >> wrote: >> >>> >>> My Pastor told me tonight he's had enough of Windows and wants to go to >>> Linux. >>> I was impressed he even knew it existed, but that's beside the point. It >>> left me with a hard question... >>> >>> LinuxMint Cinnamon or LinuxMint Mate >>> >>> First impressions I like that Mate shows program descriptions (thinking >>> it might be easier for him to find things) and I can drag and drop >>> applications from the menu right to the desktop. >>> >>> But Cinnamon really looks nice and has the latest libraries. >>> >>> So my question is, which is better for a complete noob to linux? >>> He really is only interested in LibreOffice, Chrome and maybe Firefox. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Nathan England >>> nengl...@nmecs.com >>> http://www.nmecs.com/ >>> Web Developer, Lamp Administrator >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > -- > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: LinuxMint Question
Dont forget that there are options for live cd's so he can try both and see which he likes the most. On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:41 AM, Phil Waclawski wrote: > Well, if he's never used Linux before, one of the desktop friendly distros > (Mint, Ubuntu, Kubuntu) is definitely where to start, but the big help > would be someone helping with the initial setup. Find out what they want. > Show them how to find and install software, how to set up basic internet > connections and so on. > > That may be of more use than the particular distro (so long as you pick a > desktop friendly one. ;) > > Phil W > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:22 AM, Nathan England wrote: > >> >> My Pastor told me tonight he's had enough of Windows and wants to go to >> Linux. >> I was impressed he even knew it existed, but that's beside the point. It >> left me with a hard question... >> >> LinuxMint Cinnamon or LinuxMint Mate >> >> First impressions I like that Mate shows program descriptions (thinking >> it might be easier for him to find things) and I can drag and drop >> applications from the menu right to the desktop. >> >> But Cinnamon really looks nice and has the latest libraries. >> >> So my question is, which is better for a complete noob to linux? >> He really is only interested in LibreOffice, Chrome and maybe Firefox. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Nathan England >> nengl...@nmecs.com >> http://www.nmecs.com/ >> Web Developer, Lamp Administrator >> >> >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: LinuxMint Question
Well, if he's never used Linux before, one of the desktop friendly distros (Mint, Ubuntu, Kubuntu) is definitely where to start, but the big help would be someone helping with the initial setup. Find out what they want. Show them how to find and install software, how to set up basic internet connections and so on. That may be of more use than the particular distro (so long as you pick a desktop friendly one. ;) Phil W On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:22 AM, Nathan England wrote: > > My Pastor told me tonight he's had enough of Windows and wants to go to > Linux. > I was impressed he even knew it existed, but that's beside the point. It > left me with a hard question... > > LinuxMint Cinnamon or LinuxMint Mate > > First impressions I like that Mate shows program descriptions (thinking it > might be easier for him to find things) and I can drag and drop > applications from the menu right to the desktop. > > But Cinnamon really looks nice and has the latest libraries. > > So my question is, which is better for a complete noob to linux? > He really is only interested in LibreOffice, Chrome and maybe Firefox. > > > > > > -- > Nathan England > nengl...@nmecs.com > http://www.nmecs.com/ > Web Developer, Lamp Administrator > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
LinuxMint Question
My Pastor told me tonight he's had enough of Windows and wants to go to Linux. I was impressed he even knew it existed, but that's beside the point. It left me with a hard question... LinuxMint Cinnamon or LinuxMint Mate First impressions I like that Mate shows program descriptions (thinking it might be easier for him to find things) and I can drag and drop applications from the menu right to the desktop. But Cinnamon really looks nice and has the latest libraries. So my question is, which is better for a complete noob to linux? He really is only interested in LibreOffice, Chrome and maybe Firefox. -- Nathan England nengl...@nmecs.com http://www.nmecs.com/ Web Developer, Lamp Administrator --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
