Re: Off Topic : Fast Food is Getting Expensive

2022-08-25 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss

Have not tried them.  Thanks for the info!!


On 2022-08-25 10:21, Daniel Stasinski via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Salad and Go is surprisingly inexpensive, but no dine-in option.

Daniel P. Stasinski
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On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 5:05 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
 wrote:


Hi,

I just went to 5 guys in Chandler and ordered 2 double
cheeseburgers, a
large Fry, and large fountain drink.  It was for me and my wife.  We

usually only get one cheeseburger, however she wanted one by
herself.

Here is the punch line  :  almost $40.00. Yes you saw that
correctly.

About 8 years ago we stopped going out to eat for the most part when
2
combination plates of Mexican food with drinks came to $40.00.  We
decided to not eat out and very rarely do so.

Any thoughts on places to get halfway decent food for a reasonable
cost?

I think I may evaluate making my own burgers.  With the cost of beef
we
eat very little.

Thanks!!
Keith
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Re: Off Topic : Fast Food is Getting Expensive

2022-08-25 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss


I need to become a short order cook!!

Thanks for all the great info!!

On 2022-08-25 14:15, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote:

On Wed, 2022-08-24 at 17:05 -0700, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:


Hi,

I just went to 5 guys in Chandler and ordered 2 double cheeseburgers, 
a

large Fry, and large fountain drink.  It was for me and my wife.  We
usually only get one cheeseburger, however she wanted one by herself.

Here is the punch line  :  almost $40.00. Yes you saw that correctly.

About 8 years ago we stopped going out to eat for the most part when 2
combination plates of Mexican food with drinks came to $40.00.  We
decided to not eat out and very rarely do so.


It's the hip thing these days to charge a fortune, chintz on the
product or service,
goof it up, then blame it on unavailability of employees, the supply 
chain, or
whatever political party you hate, and then laugh all the way to the 
bank on the

customer's dime.

Stop the madness. If a business charges outrageously and/or stinges on 
the
product/service, cross them off your list. If gas costs too much, use a 
bicyle,
public transportation, carpool, whatever, and also next time get a 
50mpg car.


In other words, don't support the ripoff artists with your money.
Saves you money,
and benefits society by bringing down inflation. I wish everybody did 
this.




Any thoughts on places to get halfway decent food for a reasonable 
cost?


Canned vegetables are still cheap. Eggs are still relatively cheap. I
just bought
red cabbage at $1.49/pound. Nutritious, can be boiled into a soup, and 
in a real

pinch (for lack of money or to lose weight) can substitute for bread
in a sandwich.



I think I may evaluate making my own burgers.  With the cost of beef 
we

eat very little.


Costco sells a pack of about 12 or 15 frozen burger patties for (IIRC)
under twenty
bucks. One burger plus a little beans and/or cabbage satisfies you 
unless you're

REALLY hungry. I fry them approximately 3 minutes on each side, at
medium-high heat,
and they come out delicious.

If you search, you can find fairly cheap breaded fish filets you can
just bake for
26 minute, flip at minute 13. If you set an alarm, you can do other 
things while

they cook. Not as nutritious as fresh fish, but preparation time is a
tiny fraction,
and you don't need to cook them the second you get home.

I sometimes put oil on the bottom of the frying pan, open 1 can of
garbanzo beans
and 1 can of spinach, rinse in the can with tap water to get all the
salt out, throw
them in the frying pan, mix them together, throw on the spices of your
choice, and
if you like hot, some hot sauce, cook with a lid on medium-high heat
until the water
evaporates but before things start to burn. However, you need to
attend it to flip
things over so the bottom layer doesn't get burned. This is a good
activity while
you wait for your fish in the oven.

I don't drink coffee, but if I did, I'd get instant coffee like
https://www.nescafe.com/us/products/tasters-choice/ . It's probably
about 15 cents a
cup. Don't make Howard Shultz even richer by shopping at Starbucks or 
some other
yuppie coffee joint. And oh, for gosh sakes, don't get those buck a cup 
coffee

makers that require a special kind of coffee cartridge. I think
Lennart Poettering
invented those.

For those who like it hot, consider Da Bomb Beyond Insanity hot sauce:

https://www.mohotta.com/product/da-bomb-beyond-insanity/Hot-Sauce

This sauce is so hot and so concentrated that a drop in a quart of
soup will make
the soup fairly hot (too hot for some), and add tremendous taste. I
guarantee you
that if you put this stuff on or into food (use very little), it won't
be tasteless.
You know the rubber chicken always served at catered events? A tiny
smearing of Da
Bomb will make the rubber chicken taste very interesting. For me, one
bottle of this
sauce is a 4 month supply, so don't let the fifteen dollar (plus
shipping) expense
disuade you. It costs less than the tax on your Internet or cell phone 
service.
Besides, you can probably find it on sale. Don't get anything hotter: 
The hotter

ones smell bad and burn your digestive system.

I don't think we can discuss food without discussing time. A lot of 
ordering out

happens because of lack of cooking time. It doesn't have to be that
way. I'm not a
chef, I'm a short order cook. When picking what to cook, my main 
priority is

minimizing what needs to be washed afterward. Second priority is quick
cooking time.
You know these guys on TV who have acres of prep area, and who mix in
stuff in three
different bowls, and sequentially wait for cooking task A to be done
before cooking
task B gets done? Looks good on TV, but not for the guy who just
worked a 12 hour
day and needs sleep. If it's not quick, easy and uses just one pot or
pan, I'm not
gonna do it.

As far as taste, that can usually be kludged in with powdered onions, 
powdered
garlic, pepper, hot sauce, and other quick to sprinkle spices. But not 
too many

Re: Off Topic : Fast Food is Getting Expensive

2022-08-25 Thread Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss
On Wed, 2022-08-24 at 17:05 -0700, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I just went to 5 guys in Chandler and ordered 2 double cheeseburgers, a 
> large Fry, and large fountain drink.  It was for me and my wife.  We 
> usually only get one cheeseburger, however she wanted one by herself.
> 
> Here is the punch line  :  almost $40.00. Yes you saw that correctly.
> 
> About 8 years ago we stopped going out to eat for the most part when 2 
> combination plates of Mexican food with drinks came to $40.00.  We 
> decided to not eat out and very rarely do so.

It's the hip thing these days to charge a fortune, chintz on the product or 
service,
goof it up, then blame it on unavailability of employees, the supply chain, or
whatever political party you hate, and then laugh all the way to the bank on the
customer's dime.

Stop the madness. If a business charges outrageously and/or stinges on the
product/service, cross them off your list. If gas costs too much, use a bicyle,
public transportation, carpool, whatever, and also next time get a 50mpg car.

In other words, don't support the ripoff artists with your money. Saves you 
money,
and benefits society by bringing down inflation. I wish everybody did this.

> 
> Any thoughts on places to get halfway decent food for a reasonable cost?

Canned vegetables are still cheap. Eggs are still relatively cheap. I just 
bought
red cabbage at $1.49/pound. Nutritious, can be boiled into a soup, and in a real
pinch (for lack of money or to lose weight) can substitute for bread in a 
sandwich.

> 
> I think I may evaluate making my own burgers.  With the cost of beef we 
> eat very little.

Costco sells a pack of about 12 or 15 frozen burger patties for (IIRC) under 
twenty
bucks. One burger plus a little beans and/or cabbage satisfies you unless you're
REALLY hungry. I fry them approximately 3 minutes on each side, at medium-high 
heat,
and they come out delicious.

If you search, you can find fairly cheap breaded fish filets you can just bake 
for
26 minute, flip at minute 13. If you set an alarm, you can do other things while
they cook. Not as nutritious as fresh fish, but preparation time is a tiny 
fraction,
and you don't need to cook them the second you get home.

I sometimes put oil on the bottom of the frying pan, open 1 can of garbanzo 
beans
and 1 can of spinach, rinse in the can with tap water to get all the salt out, 
throw
them in the frying pan, mix them together, throw on the spices of your choice, 
and
if you like hot, some hot sauce, cook with a lid on medium-high heat until the 
water
evaporates but before things start to burn. However, you need to attend it to 
flip
things over so the bottom layer doesn't get burned. This is a good activity 
while
you wait for your fish in the oven.

I don't drink coffee, but if I did, I'd get instant coffee like
https://www.nescafe.com/us/products/tasters-choice/ . It's probably about 15 
cents a
cup. Don't make Howard Shultz even richer by shopping at Starbucks or some other
yuppie coffee joint. And oh, for gosh sakes, don't get those buck a cup coffee
makers that require a special kind of coffee cartridge. I think Lennart 
Poettering
invented those.

For those who like it hot, consider Da Bomb Beyond Insanity hot sauce:

https://www.mohotta.com/product/da-bomb-beyond-insanity/Hot-Sauce

This sauce is so hot and so concentrated that a drop in a quart of soup will 
make
the soup fairly hot (too hot for some), and add tremendous taste. I guarantee 
you
that if you put this stuff on or into food (use very little), it won't be 
tasteless.
You know the rubber chicken always served at catered events? A tiny smearing of 
Da
Bomb will make the rubber chicken taste very interesting. For me, one bottle of 
this
sauce is a 4 month supply, so don't let the fifteen dollar (plus shipping) 
expense
disuade you. It costs less than the tax on your Internet or cell phone service.
Besides, you can probably find it on sale. Don't get anything hotter: The hotter
ones smell bad and burn your digestive system.

I don't think we can discuss food without discussing time. A lot of ordering out
happens because of lack of cooking time. It doesn't have to be that way. I'm 
not a
chef, I'm a short order cook. When picking what to cook, my main priority is
minimizing what needs to be washed afterward. Second priority is quick cooking 
time.
You know these guys on TV who have acres of prep area, and who mix in stuff in 
three
different bowls, and sequentially wait for cooking task A to be done before 
cooking
task B gets done? Looks good on TV, but not for the guy who just worked a 12 
hour
day and needs sleep. If it's not quick, easy and uses just one pot or pan, I'm 
not
gonna do it.

As far as taste, that can usually be kludged in with powdered onions, powdered
garlic, pepper, hot sauce, and other quick to sprinkle spices. But not too many
spices. My experience tells me that spices are like medicines: The more you 
use, the
more likely 

Re: Off Topic : Fast Food is Getting Expensive

2022-08-25 Thread Daniel Stasinski via PLUG-discuss
Salad and Go is surprisingly inexpensive, but no dine-in option.

*Daniel P. Stasinski*
dan...@genericinbox.com
✞ *Jesus Is King *✞


On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 5:05 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I just went to 5 guys in Chandler and ordered 2 double cheeseburgers, a
> large Fry, and large fountain drink.  It was for me and my wife.  We
> usually only get one cheeseburger, however she wanted one by herself.
>
> Here is the punch line  :  almost $40.00. Yes you saw that correctly.
>
> About 8 years ago we stopped going out to eat for the most part when 2
> combination plates of Mexican food with drinks came to $40.00.  We
> decided to not eat out and very rarely do so.
>
> Any thoughts on places to get halfway decent food for a reasonable cost?
>
> I think I may evaluate making my own burgers.  With the cost of beef we
> eat very little.
>
> Thanks!!
> Keith
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Re: Off Topic : Fast Food is Getting Expensive

2022-08-25 Thread Thomas Scott via PLUG-discuss
Does In'N Out qualify as half decent? (It's good while it's hot)

Best Regards,
-Thomas Scott


On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 8:05 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I just went to 5 guys in Chandler and ordered 2 double cheeseburgers, a
> large Fry, and large fountain drink.  It was for me and my wife.  We
> usually only get one cheeseburger, however she wanted one by herself.
>
> Here is the punch line  :  almost $40.00. Yes you saw that correctly.
>
> About 8 years ago we stopped going out to eat for the most part when 2
> combination plates of Mexican food with drinks came to $40.00.  We
> decided to not eat out and very rarely do so.
>
> Any thoughts on places to get halfway decent food for a reasonable cost?
>
> I think I may evaluate making my own burgers.  With the cost of beef we
> eat very little.
>
> Thanks!!
> Keith
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Off Topic : Fast Food is Getting Expensive

2022-08-24 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss


Hi,

I just went to 5 guys in Chandler and ordered 2 double cheeseburgers, a 
large Fry, and large fountain drink.  It was for me and my wife.  We 
usually only get one cheeseburger, however she wanted one by herself.


Here is the punch line  :  almost $40.00. Yes you saw that correctly.

About 8 years ago we stopped going out to eat for the most part when 2 
combination plates of Mexican food with drinks came to $40.00.  We 
decided to not eat out and very rarely do so.


Any thoughts on places to get halfway decent food for a reasonable cost?

I think I may evaluate making my own burgers.  With the cost of beef we 
eat very little.


Thanks!!
Keith
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