Re: old hardware RLL controller or computer

[Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss]

Is DOS 6 what you are after? or other data?

On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 7:42 PM Joe Taylor via PLUG-discuss <
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> I have this old HDD I want to get data off of. It is a Rll drive 30 Mb.
>
> If someone has a controller card I can use or a old computer (pcXT) I
> could
>
> borrow.
>
> I don't know if the drive works at all but it does/did have dos 6 on it at
> one
>
> time.
>
>
> Joe
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Re: Old Hardware

[Joe Gibbs via PLUG-discuss]

Thanks for the suggestions. I am looking forward to repurposing the older
tech items.

Joe

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 9:45 PM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <
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> Az strut is one. Savers/valley big Brothers and big sisters.
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 6:11 PM Jim via PLUG-discuss <
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>
>> There might be a use for these  machines for people to handle their kids
>> education online if they can't afford to buy them computers.  What
>> organizations are in the Valley that handle such things?
>> On 7/21/20 9:10 PM, Joe Gibbs via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>
>> Greetings from Peoria,
>>
>> I am cleaning out the closet (literally) and have some old hardware that
>> could use proper disposal. Currently I am dropping stuff off at Batteries
>> Plus into their electronics recycle box. However the current lot still
>> runs, despite running MS Vista, XP or Windows 10.
>>
>> Does anyone know of an alternate legit site / location for either
>> reselling (on the cheap) or donation other than https://azstrut.org/?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Joe Gibbs
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Re: Old Hardware

[Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss]

Az strut is one. Savers/valley big Brothers and big sisters.

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 6:11 PM Jim via PLUG-discuss <
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> There might be a use for these  machines for people to handle their kids
> education online if they can't afford to buy them computers.  What
> organizations are in the Valley that handle such things?
> On 7/21/20 9:10 PM, Joe Gibbs via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>
> Greetings from Peoria,
>
> I am cleaning out the closet (literally) and have some old hardware that
> could use proper disposal. Currently I am dropping stuff off at Batteries
> Plus into their electronics recycle box. However the current lot still
> runs, despite running MS Vista, XP or Windows 10.
>
> Does anyone know of an alternate legit site / location for either
> reselling (on the cheap) or donation other than https://azstrut.org/?
>
> Thanks
> Joe Gibbs
>
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Re: Old Hardware

[Jim via PLUG-discuss]

There might be a use for these  machines for people to handle their kids 
education online if they can't afford to buy them computers.  What 
organizations are in the Valley that handle such things?


On 7/21/20 9:10 PM, Joe Gibbs via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Greetings from Peoria,

I am cleaning out the closet (literally) and have some old hardware 
that could use proper disposal. Currently I am dropping stuff off at 
Batteries Plus into their electronics recycle box. However the current 
lot still runs, despite running MS Vista, XP or Windows 10.


Does anyone know of an alternate legit site / location for either 
reselling (on the cheap) or donation other than https://azstrut.org/?


Thanks
Joe Gibbs

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Re: Old Hardware

[Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss]

That hardware, if running, can be repurposed.  SSDs are getting more 
affordable.  I've replaced the spinner in all of my computers and 
installed Linux, with the exception of two computers.  Someone who is on 
a budget might like to purchase your old computers.




Some say the lock down is/will kill the economy for the next decade.  If 
this is true recycling old computers will be more necessary than ever. 
Given the new hardware is so powerful I see people trying to keep their 
computers going for 10 years.





On 2020-07-21 21:10, Joe Gibbs via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Greetings from Peoria,

I am cleaning out the closet (literally) and have some old hardware
that could use proper disposal. Currently I am dropping stuff off at
Batteries Plus into their electronics recycle box. However the current
lot still runs, despite running MS Vista, XP or Windows 10.

Does anyone know of an alternate legit site / location for either
reselling (on the cheap) or donation other than https://azstrut.org/?

Thanks
Joe Gibbs
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Re: Old Hardware

[Steve Litt]

On Wed, 09 Jan 2019 11:01:38 -0700
"li...@bespokess.com"  wrote:

> I have a working 3.5 usb floppy drive.  Success rate in recovering
> data from old disks for people is maybe 50/50 though?

I wonder if ddrescue with a log file could raise those odds. I've used
it on hard disks of dubious quality, but have never tried it on a
floppy.

SteveT

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Re: Old Hardware

[li...@bespokess.com]

I have a working 3.5 usb floppy drive.  Success rate in recovering data
from old disks for people is maybe 50/50 though?

I'm generally at Gangplank in Chandler during business hours, or I can
bring it to plug/stammtisch.

-JillOn 2019-01-06 16:33, Matthew Gibson wrote:
> My parents have been cleaning out their home and came across some 3
1/2
> inch floppy disks, they also found some 5 inch floppies. Does anyone
have
> an appropriate drive for either of these media items? I am looking to
> borrow, but I don't imagine it will be difficult to scrounge up the
funds
> to purchase a drive or two. All we are wanting us to pull what data we
can
> off them.
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Re: Old Hardware

[Michael Butash]

I'd typically find floppies that didn't work after a few years for whatever
reason back when they were the shiznit still, I can't imagine they hold up
much over time, and imagine charging for someone scanning hundreds of them
and not recovering anything more often than not.  I have binders full of
cd's and dvd's as well I don't much expect to work much better if I ever
had to dig them out for anything important.

Your best option for profitability doing that is probably for tips to the
fbi for questionable things you *do* find
like
geek squad does

.

-mb


On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 10:03 AM Jim  wrote:

> This thread got me thinking.  I wonder what kind of opportunities there
> might be for someone to start a business that specializes in recovering
> data from old formats people don't use anymore.
> On 1/7/19 10:26 PM, Thomas Scott wrote:
>
> http://www.deviceside.com/fc5025.html - found this as a possible
> solution, if you're unable to find a USB drive or an old machine that's
> bootable
>
> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 12:12 PM Michael Butash  wrote:
>
>> I had an old thinkpad usb 3.5 floppy disk drive accessory I kept around
>> to boot cranky systems back in the day, as oddly when some wouldn't work
>> with certain usb cd, that floppy always worked.  I'd offer it up, but I
>> haven't seen/used it in 10+ years, and don't even know where to start
>> looking for it, but I'm sure you can still find them on ebay.
>>
>> Good luck on the 5 inch, that you're just going to need an old relic
>> system for I think, but wouldn't surprise me to see some hackers have made
>> adapters to a more modern interface and power for those as well.
>>
>> -mb
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 9:33 AM Matthew Gibson <
>> guanjun.de.geliq...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My parents have been cleaning out their home and came across some 3 1/2
>>> inch floppy disks, they also found some 5 inch floppies. Does anyone have
>>> an appropriate drive for either of these media items? I am looking to
>>> borrow, but I don't imagine it will be difficult to scrounge up the funds
>>> to purchase a drive or two. All we are wanting us to pull what data we can
>>> off them.
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Re: Old Hardware

[Jim]

This thread got me thinking.  I wonder what kind of opportunities there 
might be for someone to start a business that specializes in recovering 
data from old formats people don't use anymore.


On 1/7/19 10:26 PM, Thomas Scott wrote:
http://www.deviceside.com/fc5025.html - found this as a possible 
solution, if you're unable to find a USB drive or an old machine 
that's bootable


On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 12:12 PM Michael Butash > wrote:


I had an old thinkpad usb 3.5 floppy disk drive accessory I kept
around to boot cranky systems back in the day, as oddly when some
wouldn't work with certain usb cd, that floppy always worked.  I'd
offer it up, but I haven't seen/used it in 10+ years, and don't
even know where to start looking for it, but I'm sure you can
still find them on ebay.

Good luck on the 5 inch, that you're just going to need an old
relic system for I think, but wouldn't surprise me to see some
hackers have made adapters to a more modern interface and power
for those as well.

-mb

On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 9:33 AM Matthew Gibson
mailto:guanjun.de.geliq...@gmail.com>> wrote:

My parents have been cleaning out their home and came across
some 3 1/2 inch floppy disks, they also found some 5 inch
floppies. Does anyone have an appropriate drive for either of
these media items? I am looking to borrow, but I don't imagine
it will be difficult to scrounge up the funds to purchase a
drive or two. All we are wanting us to pull what data we can
off them.
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Re: Old Hardware

[Thomas Scott]

http://www.deviceside.com/fc5025.html - found this as a possible solution,
if you're unable to find a USB drive or an old machine that's bootable

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 12:12 PM Michael Butash  wrote:

> I had an old thinkpad usb 3.5 floppy disk drive accessory I kept around to
> boot cranky systems back in the day, as oddly when some wouldn't work with
> certain usb cd, that floppy always worked.  I'd offer it up, but I haven't
> seen/used it in 10+ years, and don't even know where to start looking for
> it, but I'm sure you can still find them on ebay.
>
> Good luck on the 5 inch, that you're just going to need an old relic
> system for I think, but wouldn't surprise me to see some hackers have made
> adapters to a more modern interface and power for those as well.
>
> -mb
>
> On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 9:33 AM Matthew Gibson <
> guanjun.de.geliq...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> My parents have been cleaning out their home and came across some 3 1/2
>> inch floppy disks, they also found some 5 inch floppies. Does anyone have
>> an appropriate drive for either of these media items? I am looking to
>> borrow, but I don't imagine it will be difficult to scrounge up the funds
>> to purchase a drive or two. All we are wanting us to pull what data we can
>> off them.
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Re: Old Hardware

[Michael Butash]

I had an old thinkpad usb 3.5 floppy disk drive accessory I kept around to
boot cranky systems back in the day, as oddly when some wouldn't work with
certain usb cd, that floppy always worked.  I'd offer it up, but I haven't
seen/used it in 10+ years, and don't even know where to start looking for
it, but I'm sure you can still find them on ebay.

Good luck on the 5 inch, that you're just going to need an old relic system
for I think, but wouldn't surprise me to see some hackers have made
adapters to a more modern interface and power for those as well.

-mb

On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 9:33 AM Matthew Gibson 
wrote:

> My parents have been cleaning out their home and came across some 3 1/2
> inch floppy disks, they also found some 5 inch floppies. Does anyone have
> an appropriate drive for either of these media items? I am looking to
> borrow, but I don't imagine it will be difficult to scrounge up the funds
> to purchase a drive or two. All we are wanting us to pull what data we can
> off them.
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Re: Old Hardware

[Matt Graham]

On 1/6/19 9:33 AM, Matthew Gibson wrote:

My parents have been cleaning out their home and came across some 3
1/2 inch floppy disks, they also found some 5 inch floppies. Does
anyone have an appropriate drive for either of these media items?


I think I have a 3.5" floppy drive in the junk drawer.  I don't know if 
it works; the last time I used it was over a decade ago.  Many 
motherboards still have a floppy drive connector, but I don't know 
whether modern power supplies include the connector for a 3.5" drive.  
5.25" drives were obsolete in the 1990s, so that may be more difficult.  
Also note that there are USB 3.5" floppy drives, though these only work 
with disks that had standard formatting (80 tracks, 2 heads, 18 
sectors/track).  Tom's RootBoot used 82 tracks and 21 sectors/track, but 
Tom's is in the dustbin of history now that everything can boot from 
USB.


On 2019-01-06 17:39, Jim wrote:

How old are these discs?  If you do get data from them, I'm sure some
of us would be interested in how old they are and still able to retain
the data.


This depends greatly on the quality of the media.  Some floppies were 
much more robust than others.


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Re: Old Hardware

[Jim]

How old are these discs?  If you do get data from them, I'm sure some of 
us would be interested in how old they are and still able to retain the 
data.


On 1/6/19 9:33 AM, Matthew Gibson wrote:
My parents have been cleaning out their home and came across some 3 
1/2 inch floppy disks, they also found some 5 inch floppies. Does 
anyone have an appropriate drive for either of these media items? I am 
looking to borrow, but I don't imagine it will be difficult to 
scrounge up the funds to purchase a drive or two. All we are wanting 
us to pull what data we can off them.


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