Re: new external drive

2016-11-26 Thread Stephen Partington
You will need to use the manufacturer disk tools to verify the hardware is
bad. I would still go that route.

On Nov 26, 2016 7:31 AM, "Michael"  wrote:

> this was the result of badblocks:
>
> Testing with pattern 0x55:   0.00% done, 12:18:18 elapsed.
> (98304/60951342/0 errdone
> ors)
> Reading and comparing: done
>   ors)
> Testing with pattern 0xff:   0.00% done, 12:20:59 elapsed.
> (98304/60951342/0 errdone
> ors)
> Reading and comparing: done
>   ors)
> Testing with pattern 0x00:   0.00% done, 12:23:41 elapsed.
> (98304/60951342/0 errdone
> ors)
> Reading and comparing: done
>   ors)
>
> that is a whole bunch of write errors!
>
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Brien Dieterle  wrote:
>
>> Yeah I would send it back :-p
>>
>> On Nov 25, 2016 4:37 PM, "Michael"  wrote:
>>
>>> I would love to use a *nix native file system but I want to be able to
>>> share this between systems. Everytime the thing goes to a new line the
>>> write error is incremented by 1. This is a new disk. It shouldn't do that!
>>> I think I should send it back! What do you guys think?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Brien Dieterle 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/65349/how-to-interpr
 et-badblocks-output

 Sounds like it had a lot of writing errors.  Thing is I'll not sure how
 to deal with it while using NTFS

 http://linux.bigresource.com/General-NTFS-marking-sectors-ba
 d--aLwrEyk32.html

 If you use ext3 or ext4 you can check for and mark bad blocks during
 format with the -c option.  mkfs.ext4 -c /dev/sdd1

 On Nov 25, 2016 1:59 PM, "Michael"  wrote:

> I was wondering:
> The print out on the terminal reads:
>
> 1973729 done, 3:49:08 elapsed. (0/7649/0 errors)
>
> what does "(0/7649/0 errors)" mean?
>
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Michael  wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to run 'badblocks' but each time I run it get the same
>>  thing.
>>
>> $ sudo badblocks -b 4096 -c 98304 -p 0 -w -s /media/bmike1/NexStar
>> badblocks: invalid starting block (0): must be less than 0
>> .
>> .
>> .
>> I just googled the error and find:
>>
>> -Apparently this is Linux-speak for "This program needs the name of a
>> device file, and the programmer was too lazy to have it detect that you
>> supplied the name of the mount point instead".-
>>
>> How do I discover the device as opposed to the mount point?
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Brien Dieterle 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Almost looks like bad sectors. Might want to try badblocks
>>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/badblocks
>>> Maybe try formatting it ext4
>>> Maybe try another USB port and cable
>>>
>>> On Nov 24, 2016 1:21 PM, "Michael"  wrote:
>>>
 I really appreciate the help It errored out though. Here is
 what gparted reported:

 *Create Primary Partition #1 (ntfs, 232.88 GiB) on /dev/sdd*  00:00:37 
(
 ERROR )

 create empty partition  00:00:00( SUCCESS )




 *path: /dev/sdd1start: 2048end: 488396799size: 488394752 (232.88
 GiB)*
 clear old file system signatures in /dev/sdd1  00:00:00(
 SUCCESS )

 write 68.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 0  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
 write 4.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 67108864  00:00:00(
 SUCCESS )
 write 4.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 250058108928  00:00:00(
 SUCCESS )
 flush operating system cache of /dev/sdd  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
 set partition type on /dev/sdd1  00:00:00( SUCCESS )

 *new partition type: ntfs*
 create new ntfs file system  00:00:37( ERROR )

 *mkntfs -Q -v -L "NexStar" /dev/sdd1*




























 *Cluster size has been automatically set to 4096 bytes.Creating
 NTFS volume structures.Creating root directory (mft record 5)Creating 
 $MFT
 (mft record 0)Creating $MFTMirr (mft record 1)Creating $LogFile (mft 
 record
 2)Creating $AttrDef (mft record 4)Creating $Bitmap (mft record 
 6)Creating
 $Boot (mft record 7)Creating backup boot sector.Creating $Volume (mft
 record 3)Creating $BadClus (mft record 8)Creating $Secure (mft record
 9)Creating $UpCase (mft record 0xa)Creating $Extend (mft record 
 11)Creating
 system file (mft record 0xc)Creating system file (mft record 
 0xd)Creating
 system file (mft record 0xe)Creating system file (mft record 
 0xf)Creating
 $Quota (mft record 24)Crea

Re: new external drive

2016-11-26 Thread Michael
this was the result of badblocks:

Testing with pattern 0x55:   0.00% done, 12:18:18 elapsed.
(98304/60951342/0 errdone
ors)
Reading and comparing: done
ors)
Testing with pattern 0xff:   0.00% done, 12:20:59 elapsed.
(98304/60951342/0 errdone
ors)
Reading and comparing: done
ors)
Testing with pattern 0x00:   0.00% done, 12:23:41 elapsed.
(98304/60951342/0 errdone
ors)
Reading and comparing: done
ors)

that is a whole bunch of write errors!

On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Brien Dieterle  wrote:

> Yeah I would send it back :-p
>
> On Nov 25, 2016 4:37 PM, "Michael"  wrote:
>
>> I would love to use a *nix native file system but I want to be able to
>> share this between systems. Everytime the thing goes to a new line the
>> write error is incremented by 1. This is a new disk. It shouldn't do that!
>> I think I should send it back! What do you guys think?
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Brien Dieterle  wrote:
>>
>>> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/65349/how-to-interpr
>>> et-badblocks-output
>>>
>>> Sounds like it had a lot of writing errors.  Thing is I'll not sure how
>>> to deal with it while using NTFS
>>>
>>> http://linux.bigresource.com/General-NTFS-marking-sectors-ba
>>> d--aLwrEyk32.html
>>>
>>> If you use ext3 or ext4 you can check for and mark bad blocks during
>>> format with the -c option.  mkfs.ext4 -c /dev/sdd1
>>>
>>> On Nov 25, 2016 1:59 PM, "Michael"  wrote:
>>>
 I was wondering:
 The print out on the terminal reads:

 1973729 done, 3:49:08 elapsed. (0/7649/0 errors)

 what does "(0/7649/0 errors)" mean?

 On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Michael  wrote:

> I'm trying to run 'badblocks' but each time I run it get the same
>  thing.
>
> $ sudo badblocks -b 4096 -c 98304 -p 0 -w -s /media/bmike1/NexStar
> badblocks: invalid starting block (0): must be less than 0
> .
> .
> .
> I just googled the error and find:
>
> -Apparently this is Linux-speak for "This program needs the name of a
> device file, and the programmer was too lazy to have it detect that you
> supplied the name of the mount point instead".-
>
> How do I discover the device as opposed to the mount point?
>
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Brien Dieterle 
> wrote:
>
>> Almost looks like bad sectors. Might want to try badblocks
>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/badblocks
>> Maybe try formatting it ext4
>> Maybe try another USB port and cable
>>
>> On Nov 24, 2016 1:21 PM, "Michael"  wrote:
>>
>>> I really appreciate the help It errored out though. Here is what
>>> gparted reported:
>>>
>>> *Create Primary Partition #1 (ntfs, 232.88 GiB) on /dev/sdd*  00:00:37  
>>>   (
>>> ERROR )
>>>
>>> create empty partition  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *path: /dev/sdd1start: 2048end: 488396799size: 488394752 (232.88
>>> GiB)*
>>> clear old file system signatures in /dev/sdd1  00:00:00( SUCCESS
>>> )
>>>
>>> write 68.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 0  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>>> write 4.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 67108864  00:00:00(
>>> SUCCESS )
>>> write 4.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 250058108928  00:00:00(
>>> SUCCESS )
>>> flush operating system cache of /dev/sdd  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>>> set partition type on /dev/sdd1  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>>>
>>> *new partition type: ntfs*
>>> create new ntfs file system  00:00:37( ERROR )
>>>
>>> *mkntfs -Q -v -L "NexStar" /dev/sdd1*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Cluster size has been automatically set to 4096 bytes.Creating NTFS
>>> volume structures.Creating root directory (mft record 5)Creating $MFT 
>>> (mft
>>> record 0)Creating $MFTMirr (mft record 1)Creating $LogFile (mft record
>>> 2)Creating $AttrDef (mft record 4)Creating $Bitmap (mft record 
>>> 6)Creating
>>> $Boot (mft record 7)Creating backup boot sector.Creating $Volume (mft
>>> record 3)Creating $BadClus (mft record 8)Creating $Secure (mft record
>>> 9)Creating $UpCase (mft record 0xa)Creating $Extend (mft record 
>>> 11)Creating
>>> system file (mft record 0xc)Creating system file (mft record 
>>> 0xd)Creating
>>> system file (mft record 0xe)Creating system file (mft record 
>>> 0xf)Creating
>>> $Quota (mft record 24)Creating $ObjId (mft record 25)Creating $Reparse 
>>> (mft
>>> record 26)Syncing root directory index record.Syncing $Bitmap.Syncing
>>> $MFT.Updating $MFTMirr.Syncing device.*
>>>
>>> *Failed to sync device /dev/sdd1: Input/output errorSyncing device.
>>> FAILED*
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Stephen Part

Re: new external drive

2016-11-25 Thread Brien Dieterle
Yeah I would send it back :-p

On Nov 25, 2016 4:37 PM, "Michael"  wrote:

> I would love to use a *nix native file system but I want to be able to
> share this between systems. Everytime the thing goes to a new line the
> write error is incremented by 1. This is a new disk. It shouldn't do that!
> I think I should send it back! What do you guys think?
>
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Brien Dieterle  wrote:
>
>> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/65349/how-to-interpr
>> et-badblocks-output
>>
>> Sounds like it had a lot of writing errors.  Thing is I'll not sure how
>> to deal with it while using NTFS
>>
>> http://linux.bigresource.com/General-NTFS-marking-sectors-ba
>> d--aLwrEyk32.html
>>
>> If you use ext3 or ext4 you can check for and mark bad blocks during
>> format with the -c option.  mkfs.ext4 -c /dev/sdd1
>>
>> On Nov 25, 2016 1:59 PM, "Michael"  wrote:
>>
>>> I was wondering:
>>> The print out on the terminal reads:
>>>
>>> 1973729 done, 3:49:08 elapsed. (0/7649/0 errors)
>>>
>>> what does "(0/7649/0 errors)" mean?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Michael  wrote:
>>>
 I'm trying to run 'badblocks' but each time I run it get the same
  thing.

 $ sudo badblocks -b 4096 -c 98304 -p 0 -w -s /media/bmike1/NexStar
 badblocks: invalid starting block (0): must be less than 0
 .
 .
 .
 I just googled the error and find:

 -Apparently this is Linux-speak for "This program needs the name of a
 device file, and the programmer was too lazy to have it detect that you
 supplied the name of the mount point instead".-

 How do I discover the device as opposed to the mount point?

 On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Brien Dieterle 
 wrote:

> Almost looks like bad sectors. Might want to try badblocks
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/badblocks
> Maybe try formatting it ext4
> Maybe try another USB port and cable
>
> On Nov 24, 2016 1:21 PM, "Michael"  wrote:
>
>> I really appreciate the help It errored out though. Here is what
>> gparted reported:
>>
>> *Create Primary Partition #1 (ntfs, 232.88 GiB) on /dev/sdd*  00:00:37   
>>  (
>> ERROR )
>>
>> create empty partition  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *path: /dev/sdd1start: 2048end: 488396799size: 488394752 (232.88 GiB)*
>> clear old file system signatures in /dev/sdd1  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>>
>> write 68.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 0  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>> write 4.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 67108864  00:00:00(
>> SUCCESS )
>> write 4.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 250058108928  00:00:00(
>> SUCCESS )
>> flush operating system cache of /dev/sdd  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>> set partition type on /dev/sdd1  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>>
>> *new partition type: ntfs*
>> create new ntfs file system  00:00:37( ERROR )
>>
>> *mkntfs -Q -v -L "NexStar" /dev/sdd1*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Cluster size has been automatically set to 4096 bytes.Creating NTFS
>> volume structures.Creating root directory (mft record 5)Creating $MFT 
>> (mft
>> record 0)Creating $MFTMirr (mft record 1)Creating $LogFile (mft record
>> 2)Creating $AttrDef (mft record 4)Creating $Bitmap (mft record 6)Creating
>> $Boot (mft record 7)Creating backup boot sector.Creating $Volume (mft
>> record 3)Creating $BadClus (mft record 8)Creating $Secure (mft record
>> 9)Creating $UpCase (mft record 0xa)Creating $Extend (mft record 
>> 11)Creating
>> system file (mft record 0xc)Creating system file (mft record 0xd)Creating
>> system file (mft record 0xe)Creating system file (mft record 0xf)Creating
>> $Quota (mft record 24)Creating $ObjId (mft record 25)Creating $Reparse 
>> (mft
>> record 26)Syncing root directory index record.Syncing $Bitmap.Syncing
>> $MFT.Updating $MFTMirr.Syncing device.*
>>
>> *Failed to sync device /dev/sdd1: Input/output errorSyncing device.
>> FAILED*
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Stephen Partington <
>> cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Get gparted and use it to take a look. Lots of USB drives have some
>>> wonky trick they use.
>>>
>>> On Nov 24, 2016 12:04 PM, "Michael"  wrote:
>>>

 I got a problem. This new drive won't format. Linux saw it when I
 first plugged it in. I then tried copying some files to it which 
 resulted
 in an error appearing after 5-10 minutes telling me to open windows 
 and run
 'chkdsk \f' on the device. Then I plugged it into windows10 and 
 couldn't
 figure out how to open a terminal so I decided to format it. But it
 wouldn

Re: new external drive

2016-11-25 Thread Michael
I would love to use a *nix native file system but I want to be able to
share this between systems. Everytime the thing goes to a new line the
write error is incremented by 1. This is a new disk. It shouldn't do that!
I think I should send it back! What do you guys think?

On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Brien Dieterle  wrote:

> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/65349/how-to-
> interpret-badblocks-output
>
> Sounds like it had a lot of writing errors.  Thing is I'll not sure how to
> deal with it while using NTFS
>
> http://linux.bigresource.com/General-NTFS-marking-sectors-
> bad--aLwrEyk32.html
>
> If you use ext3 or ext4 you can check for and mark bad blocks during
> format with the -c option.  mkfs.ext4 -c /dev/sdd1
>
> On Nov 25, 2016 1:59 PM, "Michael"  wrote:
>
>> I was wondering:
>> The print out on the terminal reads:
>>
>> 1973729 done, 3:49:08 elapsed. (0/7649/0 errors)
>>
>> what does "(0/7649/0 errors)" mean?
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Michael  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm trying to run 'badblocks' but each time I run it get the same  thing.
>>>
>>> $ sudo badblocks -b 4096 -c 98304 -p 0 -w -s /media/bmike1/NexStar
>>> badblocks: invalid starting block (0): must be less than 0
>>> .
>>> .
>>> .
>>> I just googled the error and find:
>>>
>>> -Apparently this is Linux-speak for "This program needs the name of a
>>> device file, and the programmer was too lazy to have it detect that you
>>> supplied the name of the mount point instead".-
>>>
>>> How do I discover the device as opposed to the mount point?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Brien Dieterle 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Almost looks like bad sectors. Might want to try badblocks
 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/badblocks
 Maybe try formatting it ext4
 Maybe try another USB port and cable

 On Nov 24, 2016 1:21 PM, "Michael"  wrote:

> I really appreciate the help It errored out though. Here is what
> gparted reported:
>
> *Create Primary Partition #1 (ntfs, 232.88 GiB) on /dev/sdd*  00:00:37
> (
> ERROR )
>
> create empty partition  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>
>
>
>
> *path: /dev/sdd1start: 2048end: 488396799size: 488394752 (232.88 GiB)*
> clear old file system signatures in /dev/sdd1  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>
> write 68.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 0  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
> write 4.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 67108864  00:00:00( SUCCESS
> )
> write 4.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 250058108928  00:00:00(
> SUCCESS )
> flush operating system cache of /dev/sdd  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
> set partition type on /dev/sdd1  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>
> *new partition type: ntfs*
> create new ntfs file system  00:00:37( ERROR )
>
> *mkntfs -Q -v -L "NexStar" /dev/sdd1*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Cluster size has been automatically set to 4096 bytes.Creating NTFS
> volume structures.Creating root directory (mft record 5)Creating $MFT (mft
> record 0)Creating $MFTMirr (mft record 1)Creating $LogFile (mft record
> 2)Creating $AttrDef (mft record 4)Creating $Bitmap (mft record 6)Creating
> $Boot (mft record 7)Creating backup boot sector.Creating $Volume (mft
> record 3)Creating $BadClus (mft record 8)Creating $Secure (mft record
> 9)Creating $UpCase (mft record 0xa)Creating $Extend (mft record 
> 11)Creating
> system file (mft record 0xc)Creating system file (mft record 0xd)Creating
> system file (mft record 0xe)Creating system file (mft record 0xf)Creating
> $Quota (mft record 24)Creating $ObjId (mft record 25)Creating $Reparse 
> (mft
> record 26)Syncing root directory index record.Syncing $Bitmap.Syncing
> $MFT.Updating $MFTMirr.Syncing device.*
>
> *Failed to sync device /dev/sdd1: Input/output errorSyncing device.
> FAILED*
>
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Stephen Partington <
> cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Get gparted and use it to take a look. Lots of USB drives have some
>> wonky trick they use.
>>
>> On Nov 24, 2016 12:04 PM, "Michael"  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I got a problem. This new drive won't format. Linux saw it when I
>>> first plugged it in. I then tried copying some files to it which 
>>> resulted
>>> in an error appearing after 5-10 minutes telling me to open windows and 
>>> run
>>> 'chkdsk \f' on the device. Then I plugged it into windows10 and couldn't
>>> figure out how to open a terminal so I decided to format it. But it
>>> wouldn't format. When I attempt to it flashes twice a second for a 
>>> little
>>> then a long flash then again quickly. So I figured I would attempt the
>>> format with Linux but Linux doesn't see the drive now so no formatting 
>>> with

Re: new external drive

2016-11-25 Thread Brien Dieterle
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/65349/how-to-interpret-badblocks-output

Sounds like it had a lot of writing errors.  Thing is I'll not sure how to
deal with it while using NTFS

http://linux.bigresource.com/General-NTFS-marking-sectors-bad--aLwrEyk32.html

If you use ext3 or ext4 you can check for and mark bad blocks during format
with the -c option.  mkfs.ext4 -c /dev/sdd1

On Nov 25, 2016 1:59 PM, "Michael"  wrote:

> I was wondering:
> The print out on the terminal reads:
>
> 1973729 done, 3:49:08 elapsed. (0/7649/0 errors)
>
> what does "(0/7649/0 errors)" mean?
>
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Michael  wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to run 'badblocks' but each time I run it get the same  thing.
>>
>> $ sudo badblocks -b 4096 -c 98304 -p 0 -w -s /media/bmike1/NexStar
>> badblocks: invalid starting block (0): must be less than 0
>> .
>> .
>> .
>> I just googled the error and find:
>>
>> -Apparently this is Linux-speak for "This program needs the name of a
>> device file, and the programmer was too lazy to have it detect that you
>> supplied the name of the mount point instead".-
>>
>> How do I discover the device as opposed to the mount point?
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Brien Dieterle  wrote:
>>
>>> Almost looks like bad sectors. Might want to try badblocks
>>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/badblocks
>>> Maybe try formatting it ext4
>>> Maybe try another USB port and cable
>>>
>>> On Nov 24, 2016 1:21 PM, "Michael"  wrote:
>>>
 I really appreciate the help It errored out though. Here is what
 gparted reported:

 *Create Primary Partition #1 (ntfs, 232.88 GiB) on /dev/sdd*  00:00:37(
 ERROR )

 create empty partition  00:00:00( SUCCESS )




 *path: /dev/sdd1start: 2048end: 488396799size: 488394752 (232.88 GiB)*
 clear old file system signatures in /dev/sdd1  00:00:00( SUCCESS )

 write 68.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 0  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
 write 4.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 67108864  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
 write 4.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 250058108928  00:00:00(
 SUCCESS )
 flush operating system cache of /dev/sdd  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
 set partition type on /dev/sdd1  00:00:00( SUCCESS )

 *new partition type: ntfs*
 create new ntfs file system  00:00:37( ERROR )

 *mkntfs -Q -v -L "NexStar" /dev/sdd1*




























 *Cluster size has been automatically set to 4096 bytes.Creating NTFS
 volume structures.Creating root directory (mft record 5)Creating $MFT (mft
 record 0)Creating $MFTMirr (mft record 1)Creating $LogFile (mft record
 2)Creating $AttrDef (mft record 4)Creating $Bitmap (mft record 6)Creating
 $Boot (mft record 7)Creating backup boot sector.Creating $Volume (mft
 record 3)Creating $BadClus (mft record 8)Creating $Secure (mft record
 9)Creating $UpCase (mft record 0xa)Creating $Extend (mft record 11)Creating
 system file (mft record 0xc)Creating system file (mft record 0xd)Creating
 system file (mft record 0xe)Creating system file (mft record 0xf)Creating
 $Quota (mft record 24)Creating $ObjId (mft record 25)Creating $Reparse (mft
 record 26)Syncing root directory index record.Syncing $Bitmap.Syncing
 $MFT.Updating $MFTMirr.Syncing device.*

 *Failed to sync device /dev/sdd1: Input/output errorSyncing device.
 FAILED*

 On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Stephen Partington <
 cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Get gparted and use it to take a look. Lots of USB drives have some
> wonky trick they use.
>
> On Nov 24, 2016 12:04 PM, "Michael"  wrote:
>
>>
>> I got a problem. This new drive won't format. Linux saw it when I
>> first plugged it in. I then tried copying some files to it which resulted
>> in an error appearing after 5-10 minutes telling me to open windows and 
>> run
>> 'chkdsk \f' on the device. Then I plugged it into windows10 and couldn't
>> figure out how to open a terminal so I decided to format it. But it
>> wouldn't format. When I attempt to it flashes twice a second for a little
>> then a long flash then again quickly. So I figured I would attempt the
>> format with Linux but Linux doesn't see the drive now so no formatting 
>> with
>> it. Can someone help?
>> --
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
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Re: new external drive

2016-11-25 Thread Michael
I was wondering:
The print out on the terminal reads:

1973729 done, 3:49:08 elapsed. (0/7649/0 errors)

what does "(0/7649/0 errors)" mean?

On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Michael  wrote:

> I'm trying to run 'badblocks' but each time I run it get the same  thing.
>
> $ sudo badblocks -b 4096 -c 98304 -p 0 -w -s /media/bmike1/NexStar
> badblocks: invalid starting block (0): must be less than 0
> .
> .
> .
> I just googled the error and find:
>
> -Apparently this is Linux-speak for "This program needs the name of a
> device file, and the programmer was too lazy to have it detect that you
> supplied the name of the mount point instead".-
>
> How do I discover the device as opposed to the mount point?
>
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Brien Dieterle  wrote:
>
>> Almost looks like bad sectors. Might want to try badblocks
>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/badblocks
>> Maybe try formatting it ext4
>> Maybe try another USB port and cable
>>
>> On Nov 24, 2016 1:21 PM, "Michael"  wrote:
>>
>>> I really appreciate the help It errored out though. Here is what
>>> gparted reported:
>>>
>>> *Create Primary Partition #1 (ntfs, 232.88 GiB) on /dev/sdd*  00:00:37(
>>> ERROR )
>>>
>>> create empty partition  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *path: /dev/sdd1start: 2048end: 488396799size: 488394752 (232.88 GiB)*
>>> clear old file system signatures in /dev/sdd1  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>>>
>>> write 68.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 0  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>>> write 4.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 67108864  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>>> write 4.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 250058108928  00:00:00(
>>> SUCCESS )
>>> flush operating system cache of /dev/sdd  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>>> set partition type on /dev/sdd1  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>>>
>>> *new partition type: ntfs*
>>> create new ntfs file system  00:00:37( ERROR )
>>>
>>> *mkntfs -Q -v -L "NexStar" /dev/sdd1*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> *Cluster size has been automatically set to 4096 bytes.Creating NTFS
>>> volume structures.Creating root directory (mft record 5)Creating $MFT (mft
>>> record 0)Creating $MFTMirr (mft record 1)Creating $LogFile (mft record
>>> 2)Creating $AttrDef (mft record 4)Creating $Bitmap (mft record 6)Creating
>>> $Boot (mft record 7)Creating backup boot sector.Creating $Volume (mft
>>> record 3)Creating $BadClus (mft record 8)Creating $Secure (mft record
>>> 9)Creating $UpCase (mft record 0xa)Creating $Extend (mft record 11)Creating
>>> system file (mft record 0xc)Creating system file (mft record 0xd)Creating
>>> system file (mft record 0xe)Creating system file (mft record 0xf)Creating
>>> $Quota (mft record 24)Creating $ObjId (mft record 25)Creating $Reparse (mft
>>> record 26)Syncing root directory index record.Syncing $Bitmap.Syncing
>>> $MFT.Updating $MFTMirr.Syncing device.*
>>>
>>> *Failed to sync device /dev/sdd1: Input/output errorSyncing device.
>>> FAILED*
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Stephen Partington <
>>> cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Get gparted and use it to take a look. Lots of USB drives have some
 wonky trick they use.

 On Nov 24, 2016 12:04 PM, "Michael"  wrote:

>
> I got a problem. This new drive won't format. Linux saw it when I
> first plugged it in. I then tried copying some files to it which resulted
> in an error appearing after 5-10 minutes telling me to open windows and 
> run
> 'chkdsk \f' on the device. Then I plugged it into windows10 and couldn't
> figure out how to open a terminal so I decided to format it. But it
> wouldn't format. When I attempt to it flashes twice a second for a little
> then a long flash then again quickly. So I figured I would attempt the
> format with Linux but Linux doesn't see the drive now so no formatting 
> with
> it. Can someone help?
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Re: new external drive

2016-11-25 Thread Matt Birkholz
> From: Bob Holtzman 
> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 11:06:29 -0700
> 
> Take your HTML and.
> 
> My apologies to anyone I've offended with that.

It's the ones you've frightened that you should worry about. ;-)

I didn't even see the HTML.  What damaged email reader are you
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Re: new external drive

2016-11-25 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 06:14:12PM -0700, Michael Butash wrote:
> 
>   
> 
>   
>   
> I'd say you have a bad unit.  Try pulling the drive out of it and
>   connecting it direct to a sata bus and see if that works to get a
>   response to the bus.  Either the drive, or the usb converter chip

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Re: new external drive

2016-11-25 Thread Michael
I should have realized that! Thanks

On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 11:15 AM, Brien Dieterle  wrote:

> Gparted tells you.  It was /dev/sdd before, but check again as it can
> change.  Also unmount the filesystem first
>
> On Nov 25, 2016 8:50 AM, "Michael"  wrote:
>
> I'm trying to run 'badblocks' but each time I run it get the same  thing.
>
> $ sudo badblocks -b 4096 -c 98304 -p 0 -w -s /media/bmike1/NexStar
> badblocks: invalid starting block (0): must be less than 0
> .
> .
> .
> I just googled the error and find:
>
> -Apparently this is Linux-speak for "This program needs the name of a
> device file, and the programmer was too lazy to have it detect that you
> supplied the name of the mount point instead".-
>
> How do I discover the device as opposed to the mount point?
>
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Brien Dieterle  wrote:
>
>> Almost looks like bad sectors. Might want to try badblocks
>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/badblocks
>> Maybe try formatting it ext4
>> Maybe try another USB port and cable
>>
>> On Nov 24, 2016 1:21 PM, "Michael"  wrote:
>>
>>> I really appreciate the help It errored out though. Here is what
>>> gparted reported:
>>>
>>> *Create Primary Partition #1 (ntfs, 232.88 GiB) on /dev/sdd*  00:00:37(
>>> ERROR )
>>>
>>> create empty partition  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *path: /dev/sdd1start: 2048end: 488396799size: 488394752 (232.88 GiB)*
>>> clear old file system signatures in /dev/sdd1  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>>>
>>> write 68.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 0  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>>> write 4.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 67108864  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>>> write 4.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 250058108928  00:00:00(
>>> SUCCESS )
>>> flush operating system cache of /dev/sdd  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>>> set partition type on /dev/sdd1  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>>>
>>> *new partition type: ntfs*
>>> create new ntfs file system  00:00:37( ERROR )
>>>
>>> *mkntfs -Q -v -L "NexStar" /dev/sdd1*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Cluster size has been automatically set to 4096 bytes.Creating NTFS
>>> volume structures.Creating root directory (mft record 5)Creating $MFT (mft
>>> record 0)Creating $MFTMirr (mft record 1)Creating $LogFile (mft record
>>> 2)Creating $AttrDef (mft record 4)Creating $Bitmap (mft record 6)Creating
>>> $Boot (mft record 7)Creating backup boot sector.Creating $Volume (mft
>>> record 3)Creating $BadClus (mft record 8)Creating $Secure (mft record
>>> 9)Creating $UpCase (mft record 0xa)Creating $Extend (mft record 11)Creating
>>> system file (mft record 0xc)Creating system file (mft record 0xd)Creating
>>> system file (mft record 0xe)Creating system file (mft record 0xf)Creating
>>> $Quota (mft record 24)Creating $ObjId (mft record 25)Creating $Reparse (mft
>>> record 26)Syncing root directory index record.Syncing $Bitmap.Syncing
>>> $MFT.Updating $MFTMirr.Syncing device.*
>>>
>>> *Failed to sync device /dev/sdd1: Input/output errorSyncing device.
>>> FAILED*
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Stephen Partington <
>>> cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Get gparted and use it to take a look. Lots of USB drives have some
 wonky trick they use.

 On Nov 24, 2016 12:04 PM, "Michael"  wrote:

>
> I got a problem. This new drive won't format. Linux saw it when I
> first plugged it in. I then tried copying some files to it which resulted
> in an error appearing after 5-10 minutes telling me to open windows and 
> run
> 'chkdsk \f' on the device. Then I plugged it into windows10 and couldn't
> figure out how to open a terminal so I decided to format it. But it
> wouldn't format. When I attempt to it flashes twice a second for a little
> then a long flash then again quickly. So I figured I would attempt the
> format with Linux but Linux doesn't see the drive now so no formatting 
> with
> it. Can someone help?
> --
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Re: new external drive

2016-11-25 Thread Brien Dieterle
Gparted tells you.  It was /dev/sdd before, but check again as it can
change.  Also unmount the filesystem first

On Nov 25, 2016 8:50 AM, "Michael"  wrote:

I'm trying to run 'badblocks' but each time I run it get the same  thing.

$ sudo badblocks -b 4096 -c 98304 -p 0 -w -s /media/bmike1/NexStar
badblocks: invalid starting block (0): must be less than 0
.
.
.
I just googled the error and find:

-Apparently this is Linux-speak for "This program needs the name of a
device file, and the programmer was too lazy to have it detect that you
supplied the name of the mount point instead".-

How do I discover the device as opposed to the mount point?

On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Brien Dieterle  wrote:

> Almost looks like bad sectors. Might want to try badblocks
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/badblocks
> Maybe try formatting it ext4
> Maybe try another USB port and cable
>
> On Nov 24, 2016 1:21 PM, "Michael"  wrote:
>
>> I really appreciate the help It errored out though. Here is what
>> gparted reported:
>>
>> *Create Primary Partition #1 (ntfs, 232.88 GiB) on /dev/sdd*  00:00:37(
>> ERROR )
>>
>> create empty partition  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *path: /dev/sdd1start: 2048end: 488396799size: 488394752 (232.88 GiB)*
>> clear old file system signatures in /dev/sdd1  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>>
>> write 68.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 0  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>> write 4.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 67108864  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>> write 4.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 250058108928  00:00:00(
>> SUCCESS )
>> flush operating system cache of /dev/sdd  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>> set partition type on /dev/sdd1  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>>
>> *new partition type: ntfs*
>> create new ntfs file system  00:00:37( ERROR )
>>
>> *mkntfs -Q -v -L "NexStar" /dev/sdd1*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Cluster size has been automatically set to 4096 bytes.Creating NTFS
>> volume structures.Creating root directory (mft record 5)Creating $MFT (mft
>> record 0)Creating $MFTMirr (mft record 1)Creating $LogFile (mft record
>> 2)Creating $AttrDef (mft record 4)Creating $Bitmap (mft record 6)Creating
>> $Boot (mft record 7)Creating backup boot sector.Creating $Volume (mft
>> record 3)Creating $BadClus (mft record 8)Creating $Secure (mft record
>> 9)Creating $UpCase (mft record 0xa)Creating $Extend (mft record 11)Creating
>> system file (mft record 0xc)Creating system file (mft record 0xd)Creating
>> system file (mft record 0xe)Creating system file (mft record 0xf)Creating
>> $Quota (mft record 24)Creating $ObjId (mft record 25)Creating $Reparse (mft
>> record 26)Syncing root directory index record.Syncing $Bitmap.Syncing
>> $MFT.Updating $MFTMirr.Syncing device.*
>>
>> *Failed to sync device /dev/sdd1: Input/output errorSyncing device.
>> FAILED*
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Stephen Partington > > wrote:
>>
>>> Get gparted and use it to take a look. Lots of USB drives have some
>>> wonky trick they use.
>>>
>>> On Nov 24, 2016 12:04 PM, "Michael"  wrote:
>>>

 I got a problem. This new drive won't format. Linux saw it when I first
 plugged it in. I then tried copying some files to it which resulted in an
 error appearing after 5-10 minutes telling me to open windows and run
 'chkdsk \f' on the device. Then I plugged it into windows10 and couldn't
 figure out how to open a terminal so I decided to format it. But it
 wouldn't format. When I attempt to it flashes twice a second for a little
 then a long flash then again quickly. So I figured I would attempt the
 format with Linux but Linux doesn't see the drive now so no formatting with
 it. Can someone help?
 --
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Re: new external drive

2016-11-25 Thread Michael
I'm trying to run 'badblocks' but each time I run it get the same  thing.

$ sudo badblocks -b 4096 -c 98304 -p 0 -w -s /media/bmike1/NexStar
badblocks: invalid starting block (0): must be less than 0
.
.
.
I just googled the error and find:

-Apparently this is Linux-speak for "This program needs the name of a
device file, and the programmer was too lazy to have it detect that you
supplied the name of the mount point instead".-

How do I discover the device as opposed to the mount point?

On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Brien Dieterle  wrote:

> Almost looks like bad sectors. Might want to try badblocks
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/badblocks
> Maybe try formatting it ext4
> Maybe try another USB port and cable
>
> On Nov 24, 2016 1:21 PM, "Michael"  wrote:
>
>> I really appreciate the help It errored out though. Here is what
>> gparted reported:
>>
>> *Create Primary Partition #1 (ntfs, 232.88 GiB) on /dev/sdd*  00:00:37(
>> ERROR )
>>
>> create empty partition  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *path: /dev/sdd1start: 2048end: 488396799size: 488394752 (232.88 GiB)*
>> clear old file system signatures in /dev/sdd1  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>>
>> write 68.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 0  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>> write 4.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 67108864  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>> write 4.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 250058108928  00:00:00(
>> SUCCESS )
>> flush operating system cache of /dev/sdd  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>> set partition type on /dev/sdd1  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>>
>> *new partition type: ntfs*
>> create new ntfs file system  00:00:37( ERROR )
>>
>> *mkntfs -Q -v -L "NexStar" /dev/sdd1*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Cluster size has been automatically set to 4096 bytes.Creating NTFS
>> volume structures.Creating root directory (mft record 5)Creating $MFT (mft
>> record 0)Creating $MFTMirr (mft record 1)Creating $LogFile (mft record
>> 2)Creating $AttrDef (mft record 4)Creating $Bitmap (mft record 6)Creating
>> $Boot (mft record 7)Creating backup boot sector.Creating $Volume (mft
>> record 3)Creating $BadClus (mft record 8)Creating $Secure (mft record
>> 9)Creating $UpCase (mft record 0xa)Creating $Extend (mft record 11)Creating
>> system file (mft record 0xc)Creating system file (mft record 0xd)Creating
>> system file (mft record 0xe)Creating system file (mft record 0xf)Creating
>> $Quota (mft record 24)Creating $ObjId (mft record 25)Creating $Reparse (mft
>> record 26)Syncing root directory index record.Syncing $Bitmap.Syncing
>> $MFT.Updating $MFTMirr.Syncing device.*
>>
>> *Failed to sync device /dev/sdd1: Input/output errorSyncing device.
>> FAILED*
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Stephen Partington > > wrote:
>>
>>> Get gparted and use it to take a look. Lots of USB drives have some
>>> wonky trick they use.
>>>
>>> On Nov 24, 2016 12:04 PM, "Michael"  wrote:
>>>

 I got a problem. This new drive won't format. Linux saw it when I first
 plugged it in. I then tried copying some files to it which resulted in an
 error appearing after 5-10 minutes telling me to open windows and run
 'chkdsk \f' on the device. Then I plugged it into windows10 and couldn't
 figure out how to open a terminal so I decided to format it. But it
 wouldn't format. When I attempt to it flashes twice a second for a little
 then a long flash then again quickly. So I figured I would attempt the
 format with Linux but Linux doesn't see the drive now so no formatting with
 it. Can someone help?
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Re: new external drive

2016-11-25 Thread Michael
I don't know... it is so weird! I stepped away from the computer for the
night. I thought all activity between gparted and the drive had ceased. In
the morning everything was good. It was even reformatted just a few minutes
ago. I think I'll run badblock on the device.

On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 10:18 PM, Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> Before you yank the drive from the enclosure see about using the
> manufacturer software to verify the disk.
>
> On Nov 24, 2016 6:14 PM, "Michael Butash"  wrote:
>
>> I'd say you have a bad unit.  Try pulling the drive out of it and
>> connecting it direct to a sata bus and see if that works to get a response
>> to the bus.  Either the drive, or the usb converter chip could be dead.
>>
>> I began to find at one point years ago my chances of buying those cheap
>> external enclosure "backup drives" meant more than likely they would be
>> doa, die soon, or otherwise cause me grief (like causing systems not to
>> post with them connected) indicating some sort of electrical short.  More
>> often than not, usb drives are crap.
>>
>> What I have found is vendors sell _garbage_ drives as "usb", most have
>> signfiicantly lower warranties (6mo-1yr vs 3-5yr) and mtbf rates.  This
>> means you're usually buying the stuff that doesn't otherwise cut muster for
>> desktop or enterprise use.
>>
>> More simply: Expect they will die, and fast.
>>
>> What I do here is buy a normal desktop drive with a good  warranty, get
>> an enclosure myself, put it together myself, and run them this way.  I
>> rarely lose a disk, much better quality over all.
>> -mb
>>
>>
>> On 11/24/2016 12:03 PM, Michael wrote:
>>
>>
>> I got a problem. This new drive won't format. Linux saw it when I first
>> plugged it in. I then tried copying some files to it which resulted in an
>> error appearing after 5-10 minutes telling me to open windows and run
>> 'chkdsk \f' on the device. Then I plugged it into windows10 and couldn't
>> figure out how to open a terminal so I decided to format it. But it
>> wouldn't format. When I attempt to it flashes twice a second for a little
>> then a long flash then again quickly. So I figured I would attempt the
>> format with Linux but Linux doesn't see the drive now so no formatting with
>> it. Can someone help?
>> --
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>>
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Re: new external drive

2016-11-24 Thread Stephen Partington
Before you yank the drive from the enclosure see about using the
manufacturer software to verify the disk.

On Nov 24, 2016 6:14 PM, "Michael Butash"  wrote:

> I'd say you have a bad unit.  Try pulling the drive out of it and
> connecting it direct to a sata bus and see if that works to get a response
> to the bus.  Either the drive, or the usb converter chip could be dead.
>
> I began to find at one point years ago my chances of buying those cheap
> external enclosure "backup drives" meant more than likely they would be
> doa, die soon, or otherwise cause me grief (like causing systems not to
> post with them connected) indicating some sort of electrical short.  More
> often than not, usb drives are crap.
>
> What I have found is vendors sell _garbage_ drives as "usb", most have
> signfiicantly lower warranties (6mo-1yr vs 3-5yr) and mtbf rates.  This
> means you're usually buying the stuff that doesn't otherwise cut muster for
> desktop or enterprise use.
>
> More simply: Expect they will die, and fast.
>
> What I do here is buy a normal desktop drive with a good  warranty, get an
> enclosure myself, put it together myself, and run them this way.  I rarely
> lose a disk, much better quality over all.
> -mb
>
>
> On 11/24/2016 12:03 PM, Michael wrote:
>
>
> I got a problem. This new drive won't format. Linux saw it when I first
> plugged it in. I then tried copying some files to it which resulted in an
> error appearing after 5-10 minutes telling me to open windows and run
> 'chkdsk \f' on the device. Then I plugged it into windows10 and couldn't
> figure out how to open a terminal so I decided to format it. But it
> wouldn't format. When I attempt to it flashes twice a second for a little
> then a long flash then again quickly. So I figured I would attempt the
> format with Linux but Linux doesn't see the drive now so no formatting with
> it. Can someone help?
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Re: new external drive

2016-11-24 Thread Michael Butash

  
  
I'd say you have a bad unit.  Try pulling the drive out of it and
  connecting it direct to a sata bus and see if that works to get a
  response to the bus.  Either the drive, or the usb converter chip
  could be dead.

I began to find at one point years ago my chances of buying those
  cheap external enclosure "backup drives" meant more than likely
  they would be doa, die soon, or otherwise cause me grief (like
  causing systems not to post with them connected) indicating some
  sort of electrical short.  More often than not, usb drives are
  crap.

What I have found is vendors sell _garbage_ drives as "usb", most
  have signfiicantly lower warranties (6mo-1yr vs 3-5yr) and mtbf
  rates.  This means you're usually buying the stuff that doesn't
  otherwise cut muster for desktop or enterprise use.  

More simply: Expect they will die, and fast.
What I do here is buy a normal desktop drive with a good 
  
  warranty, get an enclosure myself, put it together myself, and run
  them this way.  I rarely lose a disk, much better quality over
  all.

-mb


On 11/24/2016 12:03 PM, Michael wrote:


  
I got a problem. This new drive won't format. Linux saw it
  when I first plugged it in. I then tried copying some files to
  it which resulted in an error appearing after 5-10 minutes
  telling me to open windows and run 'chkdsk \f' on the device.
  Then I plugged it into windows10 and couldn't figure out how
  to open a terminal so I decided to format it. But it wouldn't
  format. When I attempt to it flashes twice a second for a
  little then a long flash then again quickly. So I figured I
  would attempt the format with Linux but Linux doesn't see the
  drive now so no formatting with it. Can someone help?
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Re: new external drive

2016-11-24 Thread Brien Dieterle
Almost looks like bad sectors. Might want to try badblocks
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/badblocks
Maybe try formatting it ext4
Maybe try another USB port and cable

On Nov 24, 2016 1:21 PM, "Michael"  wrote:

> I really appreciate the help It errored out though. Here is what
> gparted reported:
>
> *Create Primary Partition #1 (ntfs, 232.88 GiB) on /dev/sdd*  00:00:37(
> ERROR )
>
> create empty partition  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>
>
>
>
> *path: /dev/sdd1start: 2048end: 488396799size: 488394752 (232.88 GiB)*
> clear old file system signatures in /dev/sdd1  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>
> write 68.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 0  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
> write 4.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 67108864  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
> write 4.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 250058108928  00:00:00( SUCCESS
> )
> flush operating system cache of /dev/sdd  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
> set partition type on /dev/sdd1  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
>
> *new partition type: ntfs*
> create new ntfs file system  00:00:37( ERROR )
>
> *mkntfs -Q -v -L "NexStar" /dev/sdd1*
>
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> *Cluster size has been automatically set to 4096 bytes.Creating NTFS
> volume structures.Creating root directory (mft record 5)Creating $MFT (mft
> record 0)Creating $MFTMirr (mft record 1)Creating $LogFile (mft record
> 2)Creating $AttrDef (mft record 4)Creating $Bitmap (mft record 6)Creating
> $Boot (mft record 7)Creating backup boot sector.Creating $Volume (mft
> record 3)Creating $BadClus (mft record 8)Creating $Secure (mft record
> 9)Creating $UpCase (mft record 0xa)Creating $Extend (mft record 11)Creating
> system file (mft record 0xc)Creating system file (mft record 0xd)Creating
> system file (mft record 0xe)Creating system file (mft record 0xf)Creating
> $Quota (mft record 24)Creating $ObjId (mft record 25)Creating $Reparse (mft
> record 26)Syncing root directory index record.Syncing $Bitmap.Syncing
> $MFT.Updating $MFTMirr.Syncing device.*
>
> *Failed to sync device /dev/sdd1: Input/output errorSyncing device. FAILED*
>
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Stephen Partington 
> wrote:
>
>> Get gparted and use it to take a look. Lots of USB drives have some wonky
>> trick they use.
>>
>> On Nov 24, 2016 12:04 PM, "Michael"  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I got a problem. This new drive won't format. Linux saw it when I first
>>> plugged it in. I then tried copying some files to it which resulted in an
>>> error appearing after 5-10 minutes telling me to open windows and run
>>> 'chkdsk \f' on the device. Then I plugged it into windows10 and couldn't
>>> figure out how to open a terminal so I decided to format it. But it
>>> wouldn't format. When I attempt to it flashes twice a second for a little
>>> then a long flash then again quickly. So I figured I would attempt the
>>> format with Linux but Linux doesn't see the drive now so no formatting with
>>> it. Can someone help?
>>> --
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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Re: new external drive

2016-11-24 Thread Michael
I really appreciate the help It errored out though. Here is what
gparted reported:

*Create Primary Partition #1 (ntfs, 232.88 GiB) on /dev/sdd*  00:00:37(
ERROR )

create empty partition  00:00:00( SUCCESS )




*path: /dev/sdd1start: 2048end: 488396799size: 488394752 (232.88 GiB)*
clear old file system signatures in /dev/sdd1  00:00:00( SUCCESS )

write 68.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 0  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
write 4.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 67108864  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
write 4.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 250058108928  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
flush operating system cache of /dev/sdd  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
set partition type on /dev/sdd1  00:00:00( SUCCESS )

*new partition type: ntfs*
create new ntfs file system  00:00:37( ERROR )

*mkntfs -Q -v -L "NexStar" /dev/sdd1*




























*Cluster size has been automatically set to 4096 bytes.Creating NTFS volume
structures.Creating root directory (mft record 5)Creating $MFT (mft record
0)Creating $MFTMirr (mft record 1)Creating $LogFile (mft record 2)Creating
$AttrDef (mft record 4)Creating $Bitmap (mft record 6)Creating $Boot (mft
record 7)Creating backup boot sector.Creating $Volume (mft record
3)Creating $BadClus (mft record 8)Creating $Secure (mft record 9)Creating
$UpCase (mft record 0xa)Creating $Extend (mft record 11)Creating system
file (mft record 0xc)Creating system file (mft record 0xd)Creating system
file (mft record 0xe)Creating system file (mft record 0xf)Creating $Quota
(mft record 24)Creating $ObjId (mft record 25)Creating $Reparse (mft record
26)Syncing root directory index record.Syncing $Bitmap.Syncing
$MFT.Updating $MFTMirr.Syncing device.*

*Failed to sync device /dev/sdd1: Input/output errorSyncing device. FAILED*

On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> Get gparted and use it to take a look. Lots of USB drives have some wonky
> trick they use.
>
> On Nov 24, 2016 12:04 PM, "Michael"  wrote:
>
>>
>> I got a problem. This new drive won't format. Linux saw it when I first
>> plugged it in. I then tried copying some files to it which resulted in an
>> error appearing after 5-10 minutes telling me to open windows and run
>> 'chkdsk \f' on the device. Then I plugged it into windows10 and couldn't
>> figure out how to open a terminal so I decided to format it. But it
>> wouldn't format. When I attempt to it flashes twice a second for a little
>> then a long flash then again quickly. So I figured I would attempt the
>> format with Linux but Linux doesn't see the drive now so no formatting with
>> it. Can someone help?
>> --
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Re: new external drive

2016-11-24 Thread Stephen Partington
Get gparted and use it to take a look. Lots of USB drives have some wonky
trick they use.

On Nov 24, 2016 12:04 PM, "Michael"  wrote:

>
> I got a problem. This new drive won't format. Linux saw it when I first
> plugged it in. I then tried copying some files to it which resulted in an
> error appearing after 5-10 minutes telling me to open windows and run
> 'chkdsk \f' on the device. Then I plugged it into windows10 and couldn't
> figure out how to open a terminal so I decided to format it. But it
> wouldn't format. When I attempt to it flashes twice a second for a little
> then a long flash then again quickly. So I figured I would attempt the
> format with Linux but Linux doesn't see the drive now so no formatting with
> it. Can someone help?
> --
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