Re: torrent

2023-03-13 Thread Andrew McRobb via PLUG-discuss
You need a torrent client installed like transmission for starters.

https://transmissionbt.com/

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 2:07 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
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> Nevermind. I'm not away from my linux machine. I made a mistake.
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> On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 1:00 PM Michael  wrote:
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>> fyi I'm away from my Linux computer.
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>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 12:50 PM Michael  wrote:
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>>> What do I open a torrent with to download the file? Here is the file:
>>> /home/kali/Downloads/kali-linux-2023.1-live-everything-amd64.iso.torrent
>>> I seem to remember that you just need to double click it and the
>>> download starts; but when I do that the 'open with' window opens. Or
>>> wait do I remember that the download starts automatically?
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Re: torrent

2023-03-13 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
Nevermind. I'm not away from my linux machine. I made a mistake.

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 1:00 PM Michael  wrote:

> fyi I'm away from my Linux computer.
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> On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 12:50 PM Michael  wrote:
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>> What do I open a torrent with to download the file? Here is the file:
>> /home/kali/Downloads/kali-linux-2023.1-live-everything-amd64.iso.torrent
>> I seem to remember that you just need to double click it and the download
>> starts; but when I do that the 'open with' window opens. Or wait do I
>> remember that the download starts automatically?
>>
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>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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Re: torrent

2023-03-13 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
fyi I'm away from my Linux computer.

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 12:50 PM Michael  wrote:

> What do I open a torrent with to download the file? Here is the file:
> /home/kali/Downloads/kali-linux-2023.1-live-everything-amd64.iso.torrent
> I seem to remember that you just need to double click it and the download
> starts; but when I do that the 'open with' window opens. Or wait do I
> remember that the download starts automatically?
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RE: torrent

2013-01-25 Thread Carruth, Rusty
Only feeds what you are torrent-ing from someone else (or what you HAVE
torrented from someone else), or at least that's what we all believe J

 

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but what are you feeding? I mean does it know what is on your computer
for you to upload or else do you feed what you have of what you are
downloading?


:-)~MIKE~(-:

 

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Carruth, Rusty
rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com wrote:

Torrents share as well as download.

 

That is, while you are downloading you are also feeding others.

 

Also, you can download from more than one feeder at a time.

 

Which means that, theoretically, you can totally swamp your download
bandwidth J.

 

I'm sure there's more.

 

Rusty

 

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how is downloading from a torrent better than just from a single
location?


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Re: torrent

2013-01-25 Thread Michael Havens
what about changing the connected peers, does that do anything?:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 but what are you feeding? I mean does it know what is on your computer for
 you to upload or else do you feed what you have of what you are downloading?
 :-)~MIKE~(-:


 On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Carruth, Rusty 
 rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com wrote:

 Torrents share as well as download.

 ** **

 That is, while you are downloading you are also feeding others.

 ** **

 Also, you can download from more than one feeder at a time.

 ** **

 Which means that, theoretically, you can totally swamp your download
 bandwidth J.

 ** **

 I’m sure there’s more.

 ** **

 Rusty

 ** **

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 how is downloading from a torrent better than just from a single location?
 

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Re: torrent

2013-01-25 Thread Tom Haws
Back to the original question, downloading from a torrent is better because
it doesn't swamp the source server.  If you have a feeble server, but a
high-demand and large file to serve, providing a torrent download shifts
the server load from yourself to your users, where they nearly all download
from each other, and all you do is tell them where to find each other.

As a user, downloading a torrent can be better because that feeble server
in the example above may be crawling along at a snail's pace, while the
peer-to-peer download torrent is crusing at mach speed.

With a torrent, the more popular a file, the better the results.

Tom

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 how is downloading from a torrent better than just from a single location?
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Re: torrent

2013-01-25 Thread Brian Cluff
With bit torrent files are broken up into a whole bunch of chuncks. 
These chunks then have checksums run against them and put into a torrent 
file.  When you grab the torrent file your computer grabs chunks of the 
file from everyone else that is downloading the file, not just the 
server.  It doesn't grab then from start to end like a normal download 
it grabs them out of order and in parallel.  Your computer can verify 
that people are sending you unaltered chunks of the file by comparing 
the checksums of the received chunks to the original checksums in the 
torrent file.  If they match, the chuck is kept, if they down, the chuck 
is downloaded from someone else until it does match the original checksum.


Because of the way that everyone that is downloading the file is also 
participating in uploading to other people downloading, Torrents really 
shine when you have a rush on a particular file.  In the old days, when 
the latest version of a distro came out you might as well wait a while 
before downloading it, because you were going to get less than a modem's 
worth of speed... it could and would take days to download the ISO.
Then along came torrents and everyone could now download parts of the 
ISO image from everyone else.  With bittorrent in the picture this means 
that the first day a distro comes out is now actually the best time to 
download since there is a lot more total available bandwidth than later 
on when it's not in such high demand.


Brian Cluff

On 01/25/2013 10:45 AM, Michael Havens wrote:

how is downloading from a torrent better than just from a single location?
:-)~MIKE~(-:


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Re: torrent

2013-01-25 Thread Joshua Zeidner
It's not but people who use Torrent want to believe it's used for purposes
OTHER than sharing copyrighted files.

-jmz



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Re: torrent

2013-01-25 Thread Ryan Rix
Have you ever hosted a server where a thousand people want to download 
something?

Torrents are great when you're in that position.
/ran a FOSS mirror for six months

On Fri 25 January 2013 11:01:49 Joshua Zeidner wrote:
 It's not but people who use Torrent want to believe it's used for purposes
 OTHER than sharing copyrighted files.
 
 -jmz
 
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  how is downloading from a torrent better than just from a single location?
  
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Re: torrent

2013-01-25 Thread Brian Cluff
Bittorrent is simply a way of efficiently moving large amounts of data 
from point A to point B.  There is nothing about it that promotes 
copyright infringement, any more than just downloading something off a 
webpage though HTTP... unless you are saying that doing things 
efficiently is inherently dishonest.


Brian Cluff

On 01/25/2013 11:01 AM, Joshua Zeidner wrote:

It's not but people who use Torrent want to believe it's used for
purposes OTHER than sharing copyrighted files.

-jmz



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how is downloading from a torrent better than just from a single
location?
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Re: torrent

2013-01-25 Thread Patrick Callahan
Well, one difference is that if infringement _is_ committed, it's two
different violations under the law for torrents, and one for HTTP
downloads. Because torrenters download *and* upload, they can be charged
not only with violation by using the content without permission, but also
for distributing it (a charge with much higher penalties).

And another niggling thing: Linux is copyrighted. BSD is copyrighted. Every
creative work made in the US is automatically copyrighted.) So torrenting
definitely deals almost exclusively with copyrighted material. But not
every copyright belongs to a total dick, so... ;-)

Torrents are definitely a faster download for small projects (and often
projects hosted on servers which reside far, far away). The Blender Open
Movie projects are a good example here. The idea that torrents exist
exclusively to facilitate infringement is ridiculous.
On Jan 25, 2013 2:03 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote:

 Bittorrent is simply a way of efficiently moving large amounts of data
 from point A to point B.  There is nothing about it that promotes copyright
 infringement, any more than just downloading something off a webpage though
 HTTP... unless you are saying that doing things efficiently is inherently
 dishonest.

 Brian Cluff

 On 01/25/2013 11:01 AM, Joshua Zeidner wrote:

 It's not but people who use Torrent want to believe it's used for
 purposes OTHER than sharing copyrighted files.

 -jmz



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Re: torrent

2013-01-25 Thread Kevin Brown
 And? All files are copyrighted. That doesn't mean that all Torrenting 
is illegal. Blizzard and Riot games and a number of other, mainstream 
developers, use Torrent systems to deliver updates to their games so 
that the load of getting the files is shared amongst all the users.
Those files are copyrighted, yet don't meet what I think you really 
meant with this statement...
It's not but people who use Torrent want to believe it's used for 
purposes OTHER than sharing copyrighted files.


-jmz



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