Re: what does it mean

2019-11-13 Thread Bob Elzer 
Use the command "last"

It can tell you when the machine was rebooted or crashed
Then look at the programs that crashed during that time with the abrt
program.

With CentOs 7 the alsa sound routines caused problems on my system in the
early days. They have been fixed now.





On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 12:45 PM Michael  wrote:

> I found something that might work. Thanks, Bob.
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 10:28 AM Bob Elzer  wrote:
>
>> CentOs has a program called gnome-abrt  it is the automatic bug reporting
>> tool
>>
>> It shows a list of programs that have crashed along with the dump data.
>> It also includes kernel crashes.
>>
>> See if you have a similar program on your OS
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 8:16 AM Michael  wrote:
>>
>>> memtest reported: pass complete- no errors
>>> it took about an hour. should it have taken longer?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 3:44 AM  wrote:
>>>
 Run memtest...


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 > It doesn't happen often bu every once in a while the computer
 freezes. I
 > then do a hard reboot (push the button until it turns off) and when
 it is
 > powering on nothing loads not even the BIOS screen (the first
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 > on?
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Re: what does it mean

2019-11-13 Thread Michael 
I think I'll let it run overnight. How would that benefit memtest?

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 10:18 AM Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> duration has multiple factors from the quantity of ram to bus speed to
> memory speed. I have run into this before, and most times it proved that
> the board I was using for the backbone of my computer was the culprit.
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 8:16 AM Michael  wrote:
>
>> memtest reported: pass complete- no errors
>> it took about an hour. should it have taken longer?
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 3:44 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> Run memtest...
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael writes:
>>>
>>> > It doesn't happen often bu every once in a while the computer freezes.
>>> I
>>> > then do a hard reboot (push the button until it turns off) and when it
>>> is
>>> > powering on nothing loads not even the BIOS screen (the first
>>> screen
>>> > that appears after pushing the power button). Any ideas as to what is
>>> going
>>> > on?
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Re: what does it mean

2019-11-13 Thread Michael 
I found something that might work. Thanks, Bob.

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 10:28 AM Bob Elzer  wrote:

> CentOs has a program called gnome-abrt  it is the automatic bug reporting
> tool
>
> It shows a list of programs that have crashed along with the dump data. It
> also includes kernel crashes.
>
> See if you have a similar program on your OS
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 8:16 AM Michael  wrote:
>
>> memtest reported: pass complete- no errors
>> it took about an hour. should it have taken longer?
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 3:44 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> Run memtest...
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael writes:
>>>
>>> > It doesn't happen often bu every once in a while the computer freezes.
>>> I
>>> > then do a hard reboot (push the button until it turns off) and when it
>>> is
>>> > powering on nothing loads not even the BIOS screen (the first
>>> screen
>>> > that appears after pushing the power button). Any ideas as to what is
>>> going
>>> > on?
>>> >
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Re: what does it mean

2019-11-13 Thread Bob Elzer 
CentOs has a program called gnome-abrt  it is the automatic bug reporting
tool

It shows a list of programs that have crashed along with the dump data. It
also includes kernel crashes.

See if you have a similar program on your OS


On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 8:16 AM Michael  wrote:

> memtest reported: pass complete- no errors
> it took about an hour. should it have taken longer?
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 3:44 AM  wrote:
>
>> Run memtest...
>>
>>
>> Michael writes:
>>
>> > It doesn't happen often bu every once in a while the computer freezes. I
>> > then do a hard reboot (push the button until it turns off) and when it
>> is
>> > powering on nothing loads not even the BIOS screen (the first screen
>> > that appears after pushing the power button). Any ideas as to what is
>> going
>> > on?
>> >
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Re: what does it mean

2019-11-13 Thread Michael 
lovely!


On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 10:18 AM Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> duration has multiple factors from the quantity of ram to bus speed to
> memory speed. I have run into this before, and most times it proved that
> the board I was using for the backbone of my computer was the culprit.
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 8:16 AM Michael  wrote:
>
>> memtest reported: pass complete- no errors
>> it took about an hour. should it have taken longer?
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 3:44 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> Run memtest...
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael writes:
>>>
>>> > It doesn't happen often bu every once in a while the computer freezes.
>>> I
>>> > then do a hard reboot (push the button until it turns off) and when it
>>> is
>>> > powering on nothing loads not even the BIOS screen (the first
>>> screen
>>> > that appears after pushing the power button). Any ideas as to what is
>>> going
>>> > on?
>>> >
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Re: what does it mean

2019-11-13 Thread Stephen Partington 
duration has multiple factors from the quantity of ram to bus speed to
memory speed. I have run into this before, and most times it proved that
the board I was using for the backbone of my computer was the culprit.

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 8:16 AM Michael  wrote:

> memtest reported: pass complete- no errors
> it took about an hour. should it have taken longer?
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 3:44 AM  wrote:
>
>> Run memtest...
>>
>>
>> Michael writes:
>>
>> > It doesn't happen often bu every once in a while the computer freezes. I
>> > then do a hard reboot (push the button until it turns off) and when it
>> is
>> > powering on nothing loads not even the BIOS screen (the first screen
>> > that appears after pushing the power button). Any ideas as to what is
>> going
>> > on?
>> >
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Re: what does it mean

2019-11-13 Thread Michael 
memtest reported: pass complete- no errors
it took about an hour. should it have taken longer?

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 3:44 AM  wrote:

> Run memtest...
>
>
> Michael writes:
>
> > It doesn't happen often bu every once in a while the computer freezes. I
> > then do a hard reboot (push the button until it turns off) and when it is
> > powering on nothing loads not even the BIOS screen (the first screen
> > that appears after pushing the power button). Any ideas as to what is
> going
> > on?
> >
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Re: what does it mean

2019-11-13 Thread kitepilot 
Run memtest... 



Michael writes: 


It doesn't happen often bu every once in a while the computer freezes. I
then do a hard reboot (push the button until it turns off) and when it is
powering on nothing loads not even the BIOS screen (the first screen
that appears after pushing the power button). Any ideas as to what is going
on? 


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RE: What does this mean?

2018-09-05 Thread Carruth, Rusty 
FWIW, I noticed that delete (DEL) did that on Mint recently.

To directly address the ‘what does this mean’ question -

Well, ok, first answering the timer thing.  The first half tells you how much 
time has passed since the wait started, the 2nd half tells  you the max wait 
time.

What this (probably) means is that there is a line in your /etc/fstab that 
references a UUID that isn’t found on the machine.

For a list of UUIDs on the machine, type:

blkid

You should see something like:
oakgatecontrol diskimage # blkid
/dev/sdb1: UUID="9784dc82-83f9-4ed6-8d18-e4f2635b4909" TYPE="ext4"
/dev/sdc1: UUID="60A84E9BA84E7018" TYPE="ntfs"
/dev/sdc5: UUID="0f87cf0e-fb08-4371-8759-096c44ea8b05" TYPE="ext4"
/dev/sdc6: UUID="44ca480b-3824-4191-9005-7f5da9a0cc99" TYPE="swap"
/dev/sdc7: UUID="cb82d09d-10e3-420d-be67-cf80ec00d3ce" TYPE="ext4"
/dev/sda1: UUID="240bde04-44c7-46ba-b868-5006c7ac9c63" TYPE="ext2"
/dev/sdf1: UUID="083459d8-9414-49d6-a7c1-4379194e53d6" TYPE="ext2"

Now, to see what is in the fstab, do ‘egrep UUID /etc/fstab’

You should see something like:


oakgatecontrol diskimage # egrep UUID /etc/fstab
UUID=cb82d09d-10e3-420d-be67-cf80ec00d3ce /   ext4
errors=remount-ro 0   1
UUID=44ca480b-3824-4191-9005-7f5da9a0cc99 noneswapsw
  0   0
UUID=9784dc82-83f9-4ed6-8d18-e4f2635b4909 /mnt/space ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 3
UUID=5c93bc13-a2d0-4da5-98b7-be43d3595924 /HOSTS_BAK ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 2

If you compare the UUID lines above with the UUIDs listed from blkid, you 
should find one in fstab that isn’t in blkid list.

Look at where it was supposed to be mounted, and maybe that will explain it to 
you.  (e.g. if the UUID is a swap partition, then did you remove the swap?  
Re-‘mkswap’ it?  Maybe you combined 2 partitions?  Whatever, hopefully what the 
fstab thought that UUID is for should point you toward a fix).

Oh, one last thing:

dev-disk-by\x2uuid-377be6ee\x2dc467\x2d44fc\x2de7dad05366fd.device

is referencing UUID 377b6ee-c467-444fc-e7dad05366fd  (you have to convert the 
\x2d into the ‘-‘ that is in the UUID itself), so look for that in your FSTAB.

Or, you can just do ‘grep -i 377b6ee-c467-444fc-e7dad05366fd  /etc/* 2> 
/dev/null’ and see all references to that UUID in /etc (warning - this is the 
sledgehammer approach!  If you look at fstab, that should be the place this 
UUID shows up, but if not, use the sledgehammer.  IF the sledgehammer doesn’t 
work, use the jackhammer: ‘find /etc -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep -i 
377b6ee-c467-444fc-e7dad05366fd’  (or maybe that last one is a nuke, don’t know 
for sure ☺)

Rusty


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Subject: Re: What does this mean?

Not sure if this works for kubuntu, but when the system is booting you can hit 
the esc key and it should show the all the boot messages.



On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 12:20 AM Jim 
mailto:jim.nant...@comcast.net>> wrote:
Whenever I boot the computer into Kubuntu 18, it takes a couple of
minutes to boot.  For a while the screen is blank.  Finally I'm able to
see what it's doing as it boots, and I find this.


a start job is running for
dev-disk-by\x2uuid-377be6ee\x2dc467\x2d44fc\x2de7dad05366fd.device

Then in parenthesis there is a timer like this (1min 9s / 1min 30s) The
number before the slash counts up to 1min 30s then the system continues
booting like it should.

Any idea what this is or how to fix it?

thanks




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Re: What does this mean?

2018-09-05 Thread Jim 

On 09/05/2018 06:55 AM, Bob Elzer wrote:
Not sure if this works for kubuntu, but when the system is booting you 
can hit the esc key and it should show the all the boot messages.
Sometimes it does and sometimes it does not.  One day I'll get ambitious 
enough to look into why.


I found out what the problem was.  Somehow, the UUID for the swap 
partition got changed.  This problem went away when I changed the UUID 
given for it in fstab.



On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 12:20 AM Jim > wrote:


Whenever I boot the computer into Kubuntu 18, it takes a couple of
minutes to boot.  For a while the screen is blank.  Finally I'm
able to
see what it's doing as it boots, and I find this.


a start job is running for
dev-disk-by\x2uuid-377be6ee\x2dc467\x2d44fc\x2de7dad05366fd.device

Then in parenthesis there is a timer like this (1min 9s / 1min
30s) The
number before the slash counts up to 1min 30s then the system
continues
booting like it should.

Any idea what this is or how to fix it?

thanks




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Re: What does this mean?

2018-09-05 Thread Bob Elzer 
Not sure if this works for kubuntu, but when the system is booting you can
hit the esc key and it should show the all the boot messages.



On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 12:20 AM Jim  wrote:

> Whenever I boot the computer into Kubuntu 18, it takes a couple of
> minutes to boot.  For a while the screen is blank.  Finally I'm able to
> see what it's doing as it boots, and I find this.
>
>
> a start job is running for
> dev-disk-by\x2uuid-377be6ee\x2dc467\x2d44fc\x2de7dad05366fd.device
>
> Then in parenthesis there is a timer like this (1min 9s / 1min 30s) The
> number before the slash counts up to 1min 30s then the system continues
> booting like it should.
>
> Any idea what this is or how to fix it?
>
> thanks
>
>
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Re: What does this mean?

2018-09-05 Thread Michael Butash 
Sounds like a bad partition being found that udev can't make sense of.
 Try deleting/clearing/fixing that partition?  Do "ls -lah
/dev/disk/by-uuid/" and see what device that is linking to, and see why
it's broken in fstab or udev.

-mb

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 12:20 AM, Jim  wrote:

> Whenever I boot the computer into Kubuntu 18, it takes a couple of minutes
> to boot.  For a while the screen is blank.  Finally I'm able to see what
> it's doing as it boots, and I find this.
>
>
> a start job is running for dev-disk-by\x2uuid-377be6ee\x2
> dc467\x2d44fc\x2de7dad05366fd.device
>
> Then in parenthesis there is a timer like this (1min 9s / 1min 30s) The
> number before the slash counts up to 1min 30s then the system continues
> booting like it should.
>
> Any idea what this is or how to fix it?
>
> thanks
>
>
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