Re: what happened to gmail.

2014-09-03 Thread Michael Havens
fixed this problem (finally). Clicked the gear and then 'Configure inbox.'
Then I unchecked everything and that brought all of the emails back.

:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Paul Mooring  wrote:

> More importantly the code changes and is sent to your phone when you
> request it (at log on).  There's a lot of practical reasons why this is
> orders of magnitude better than a static code which amounts to another
> password.  To understand why think about how most web services end up
> getting compromised.
>
> - Most commonly a vulnerability  is discovered in the web service (or
> another web service where you used the same e-mail/password combo, so get a
> password manager!).
> - Given a database of users and password hashes, the attacker would
> attempt to brute force or "guess" the password with automated software
>   - If the password is in plain text (not hashed) in the web services
> database, it's already game over
>   - If he hashed password doesn't use a salt (
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_%28cryptography%29), pre-computed
> rainbow tables make getting the plain text password trivial
> - Having discovered a username/password combo, the attacker would gain
> access and generally try to use the same combination on other popular
> services (gmail, facebook...)
>
> With that process in mind, you could easily use the same account
> credentials on a much smaller and less secure service than gmail and have
> that service become your attack vector.  As you can imagine most people
> have a whole lot of e-mail indicating nearly every online service they use,
> and password re-use is rampant.  That means once you have your gmail
> account compromised a cascading waterfall of sorrow can follow.
>
> The take away from all this is, your important services should have unique
> passwords *and* 2 factor auth.  If you need your phone to get in to gmail,
> amazon, $BANK, ebay... then so does the attacker meaning you have really
> massive gains in terms of safety and piece-of-mind.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Stephen Partington 
> wrote:
>
>> 2 factor authentication adds a whole second layer to your login. So you
>> need a code plus password to authenticate from an untrusted location. If
>> you look under security settings you can get more details.
>>  On Aug 2, 2014 12:26 AM, "Michael Havens"  wrote:
>>
>>> sorry for the delay I just got home from work.
>>> I don't know what 2-factor auth is so I may have accidentally enabled
>>> it. How do I check that? WHy do you so highly recommend it, Stephen?
>>>
>>> As for the priority inbox/social media thing  my primaryinbox never
>>> changed when google changed their page. My business email  did change
>>> though. It didn't affect me so I thought nothing of it
>>>
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Eric Cope  wrote:
>>>
 did you enable 2-factor auth?

 Eric


 On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Michael Torres 
 wrote:

> Are you using Chrome? or FireFox?
>
> Strange thing happened to me where i could not view any of my messages
> in FireFox anymore, so I have to access my gmail account in Chrome.
>
> Mike
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Michael Havens 
> wrote:
>
>> so it only happened to me then it seems.
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Stephen Partington <
>> cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> no idea
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Michael Havens 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 no. I only used web mail. I never could get pop to work.

 :-)~MIKE~(-:


 On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Stephen Partington <
 cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> did you use a pop email client?
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Michael Havens 
> wrote:
>
>> I opened it this morning and my inbox was empty. 4 years worth of
>> stuff was just gone!
>>  :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
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> from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze 
> button.
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> Stephen
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Re: what happened to gmail.

2014-08-03 Thread Paul Mooring
More importantly the code changes and is sent to your phone when you
request it (at log on).  There's a lot of practical reasons why this is
orders of magnitude better than a static code which amounts to another
password.  To understand why think about how most web services end up
getting compromised.

- Most commonly a vulnerability  is discovered in the web service (or
another web service where you used the same e-mail/password combo, so get a
password manager!).
- Given a database of users and password hashes, the attacker would attempt
to brute force or "guess" the password with automated software
  - If the password is in plain text (not hashed) in the web services
database, it's already game over
  - If he hashed password doesn't use a salt (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_%28cryptography%29), pre-computed rainbow
tables make getting the plain text password trivial
- Having discovered a username/password combo, the attacker would gain
access and generally try to use the same combination on other popular
services (gmail, facebook...)

With that process in mind, you could easily use the same account
credentials on a much smaller and less secure service than gmail and have
that service become your attack vector.  As you can imagine most people
have a whole lot of e-mail indicating nearly every online service they use,
and password re-use is rampant.  That means once you have your gmail
account compromised a cascading waterfall of sorrow can follow.

The take away from all this is, your important services should have unique
passwords *and* 2 factor auth.  If you need your phone to get in to gmail,
amazon, $BANK, ebay... then so does the attacker meaning you have really
massive gains in terms of safety and piece-of-mind.



On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> 2 factor authentication adds a whole second layer to your login. So you
> need a code plus password to authenticate from an untrusted location. If
> you look under security settings you can get more details.
>  On Aug 2, 2014 12:26 AM, "Michael Havens"  wrote:
>
>> sorry for the delay I just got home from work.
>> I don't know what 2-factor auth is so I may have accidentally enabled it.
>> How do I check that? WHy do you so highly recommend it, Stephen?
>>
>> As for the priority inbox/social media thing  my primaryinbox never
>> changed when google changed their page. My business email  did change
>> though. It didn't affect me so I thought nothing of it
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Eric Cope  wrote:
>>
>>> did you enable 2-factor auth?
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Michael Torres 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Are you using Chrome? or FireFox?

 Strange thing happened to me where i could not view any of my messages
 in FireFox anymore, so I have to access my gmail account in Chrome.

 Mike


 On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Michael Havens 
 wrote:

> so it only happened to me then it seems.
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Stephen Partington <
> cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> no idea
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Michael Havens 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> no. I only used web mail. I never could get pop to work.
>>>
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Stephen Partington <
>>> cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 did you use a pop email client?


 On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Michael Havens 
 wrote:

> I opened it this morning and my inbox was empty. 4 years worth of
> stuff was just gone!
>  :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
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Re: what happened to gmail.

2014-08-02 Thread Wayne Davis
IF you are running Thunderbird, Try compacting folders.  It seems to fix 
some wonkyness i've encountered.


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Re: what happened to gmail.

2014-08-02 Thread Michael Havens
what gmail is doing is it is archiving read mail. I then seleected
everything and moved it to the inbox but it still doesn't show in the inbox.

:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 7:11 AM, Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> Sounds like your email got archived. Allot better than gone.
>
> And you would need to go to account settings under your main account not
> your email.
>
> https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/180744?hl=en
>
> http://www.google.com/landing/2step/
> On Aug 2, 2014 1:17 AM, "Michael Havens"  wrote:
>
>> well... everything is visible from 'all mail'. the inbox label had
>> somehow been removed. But reapplying the label didn't do anything. how
>> weird!
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 12:46 AM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>>
>>> I click the gear->settings->?? I checked under general and a few
>>> other settings but I can't find 'security'.
>>>
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Stephen Partington <
>>> cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 2 factor authentication adds a whole second layer to your login. So you
 need a code plus password to authenticate from an untrusted location. If
 you look under security settings you can get more details.
  On Aug 2, 2014 12:26 AM, "Michael Havens"  wrote:

> sorry for the delay I just got home from work.
> I don't know what 2-factor auth is so I may have accidentally enabled
> it. How do I check that? WHy do you so highly recommend it, Stephen?
>
> As for the priority inbox/social media thing  my primaryinbox
> never changed when google changed their page. My business email  did 
> change
> though. It didn't affect me so I thought nothing of it
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Eric Cope  wrote:
>
>> did you enable 2-factor auth?
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Michael Torres > > wrote:
>>
>>> Are you using Chrome? or FireFox?
>>>
>>> Strange thing happened to me where i could not view any of my
>>> messages in FireFox anymore, so I have to access my gmail account in 
>>> Chrome.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Michael Havens 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 so it only happened to me then it seems.

 :-)~MIKE~(-:


 On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Stephen Partington <
 cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> no idea
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Michael Havens 
> wrote:
>
>> no. I only used web mail. I never could get pop to work.
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Stephen Partington <
>> cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> did you use a pop email client?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Michael Havens >> > wrote:
>>>
 I opened it this morning and my inbox was empty. 4 years worth
 of stuff was just gone!
  :-)~MIKE~(-:

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Re: what happened to gmail.

2014-08-02 Thread Stephen Partington
Sounds like your email got archived. Allot better than gone.

And you would need to go to account settings under your main account not
your email.

https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/180744?hl=en

http://www.google.com/landing/2step/
On Aug 2, 2014 1:17 AM, "Michael Havens"  wrote:

> well... everything is visible from 'all mail'. the inbox label had somehow
> been removed. But reapplying the label didn't do anything. how weird!
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 12:46 AM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>
>> I click the gear->settings->?? I checked under general and a few
>> other settings but I can't find 'security'.
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Stephen Partington > > wrote:
>>
>>> 2 factor authentication adds a whole second layer to your login. So you
>>> need a code plus password to authenticate from an untrusted location. If
>>> you look under security settings you can get more details.
>>>  On Aug 2, 2014 12:26 AM, "Michael Havens"  wrote:
>>>
 sorry for the delay I just got home from work.
 I don't know what 2-factor auth is so I may have accidentally enabled
 it. How do I check that? WHy do you so highly recommend it, Stephen?

 As for the priority inbox/social media thing  my primaryinbox never
 changed when google changed their page. My business email  did change
 though. It didn't affect me so I thought nothing of it

 :-)~MIKE~(-:


 On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Eric Cope  wrote:

> did you enable 2-factor auth?
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Michael Torres 
> wrote:
>
>> Are you using Chrome? or FireFox?
>>
>> Strange thing happened to me where i could not view any of my
>> messages in FireFox anymore, so I have to access my gmail account in 
>> Chrome.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Michael Havens 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> so it only happened to me then it seems.
>>>
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Stephen Partington <
>>> cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 no idea



 On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Michael Havens 
 wrote:

> no. I only used web mail. I never could get pop to work.
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Stephen Partington <
> cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> did you use a pop email client?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Michael Havens 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I opened it this morning and my inbox was empty. 4 years worth
>>> of stuff was just gone!
>>>  :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
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>>
>>
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>> from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze 
>> button.
>>
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>>
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Re: what happened to gmail.

2014-08-02 Thread Michael Havens
well... everything is visible from 'all mail'. the inbox label had somehow
been removed. But reapplying the label didn't do anything. how weird!

:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 12:46 AM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> I click the gear->settings->?? I checked under general and a few other
> settings but I can't find 'security'.
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Stephen Partington 
> wrote:
>
>> 2 factor authentication adds a whole second layer to your login. So you
>> need a code plus password to authenticate from an untrusted location. If
>> you look under security settings you can get more details.
>>  On Aug 2, 2014 12:26 AM, "Michael Havens"  wrote:
>>
>>> sorry for the delay I just got home from work.
>>> I don't know what 2-factor auth is so I may have accidentally enabled
>>> it. How do I check that? WHy do you so highly recommend it, Stephen?
>>>
>>> As for the priority inbox/social media thing  my primaryinbox never
>>> changed when google changed their page. My business email  did change
>>> though. It didn't affect me so I thought nothing of it
>>>
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Eric Cope  wrote:
>>>
 did you enable 2-factor auth?

 Eric


 On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Michael Torres 
 wrote:

> Are you using Chrome? or FireFox?
>
> Strange thing happened to me where i could not view any of my messages
> in FireFox anymore, so I have to access my gmail account in Chrome.
>
> Mike
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Michael Havens 
> wrote:
>
>> so it only happened to me then it seems.
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Stephen Partington <
>> cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> no idea
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Michael Havens 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 no. I only used web mail. I never could get pop to work.

 :-)~MIKE~(-:


 On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Stephen Partington <
 cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> did you use a pop email client?
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Michael Havens 
> wrote:
>
>> I opened it this morning and my inbox was empty. 4 years worth of
>> stuff was just gone!
>>  :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
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>
>
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> from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze 
> button.
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> Stephen
>
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Re: what happened to gmail.

2014-08-02 Thread Michael Havens
I click the gear->settings->?? I checked under general and a few other
settings but I can't find 'security'.

:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> 2 factor authentication adds a whole second layer to your login. So you
> need a code plus password to authenticate from an untrusted location. If
> you look under security settings you can get more details.
>  On Aug 2, 2014 12:26 AM, "Michael Havens"  wrote:
>
>> sorry for the delay I just got home from work.
>> I don't know what 2-factor auth is so I may have accidentally enabled it.
>> How do I check that? WHy do you so highly recommend it, Stephen?
>>
>> As for the priority inbox/social media thing  my primaryinbox never
>> changed when google changed their page. My business email  did change
>> though. It didn't affect me so I thought nothing of it
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Eric Cope  wrote:
>>
>>> did you enable 2-factor auth?
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Michael Torres 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Are you using Chrome? or FireFox?

 Strange thing happened to me where i could not view any of my messages
 in FireFox anymore, so I have to access my gmail account in Chrome.

 Mike


 On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Michael Havens 
 wrote:

> so it only happened to me then it seems.
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Stephen Partington <
> cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> no idea
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Michael Havens 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> no. I only used web mail. I never could get pop to work.
>>>
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Stephen Partington <
>>> cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 did you use a pop email client?


 On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Michael Havens 
 wrote:

> I opened it this morning and my inbox was empty. 4 years worth of
> stuff was just gone!
>  :-)~MIKE~(-:
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Re: what happened to gmail.

2014-08-02 Thread Stephen Partington
2 factor authentication adds a whole second layer to your login. So you
need a code plus password to authenticate from an untrusted location. If
you look under security settings you can get more details.
On Aug 2, 2014 12:26 AM, "Michael Havens"  wrote:

> sorry for the delay I just got home from work.
> I don't know what 2-factor auth is so I may have accidentally enabled it.
> How do I check that? WHy do you so highly recommend it, Stephen?
>
> As for the priority inbox/social media thing  my primaryinbox never
> changed when google changed their page. My business email  did change
> though. It didn't affect me so I thought nothing of it
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Eric Cope  wrote:
>
>> did you enable 2-factor auth?
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Michael Torres 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Are you using Chrome? or FireFox?
>>>
>>> Strange thing happened to me where i could not view any of my messages
>>> in FireFox anymore, so I have to access my gmail account in Chrome.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>>>
 so it only happened to me then it seems.

 :-)~MIKE~(-:


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 cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> no idea
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Michael Havens 
> wrote:
>
>> no. I only used web mail. I never could get pop to work.
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Stephen Partington <
>> cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> did you use a pop email client?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Michael Havens 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I opened it this morning and my inbox was empty. 4 years worth of
 stuff was just gone!
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Re: what happened to gmail.

2014-08-02 Thread Michael Havens
sorry for the delay I just got home from work.
I don't know what 2-factor auth is so I may have accidentally enabled it.
How do I check that? WHy do you so highly recommend it, Stephen?

As for the priority inbox/social media thing  my primaryinbox never
changed when google changed their page. My business email  did change
though. It didn't affect me so I thought nothing of it

:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Eric Cope  wrote:

> did you enable 2-factor auth?
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Michael Torres 
> wrote:
>
>> Are you using Chrome? or FireFox?
>>
>> Strange thing happened to me where i could not view any of my messages in
>> FireFox anymore, so I have to access my gmail account in Chrome.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>>
>>> so it only happened to me then it seems.
>>>
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Stephen Partington >> > wrote:
>>>
 no idea



 On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Michael Havens 
 wrote:

> no. I only used web mail. I never could get pop to work.
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Stephen Partington <
> cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> did you use a pop email client?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Michael Havens 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I opened it this morning and my inbox was empty. 4 years worth of
>>> stuff was just gone!
>>>  :-)~MIKE~(-:
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Re: what happened to gmail.

2014-08-01 Thread Nathan England
 

Are you sure you are looking at your "Inbox" and not a "Priority" inbox
or the social media tabs? 

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On 2014-08-01 15:24, Stephen Partington wrote: 

> i cannot recommend this enough. 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Eric Cope  wrote:
> 
> did you enable 2-factor auth? 
> 
> Eric 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Michael Torres  wrote:
> 
> Are you using Chrome? or FireFox?
> 
> Strange thing happened to me where i could not view any of my messages in 
> FireFox anymore, so I have to access my gmail account in Chrome.
> 
> Mike 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
> 
> so it only happened to me then it seems. 
> 
> :-)~MIKE~(-: 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Stephen Partington  
> wrote:
> 
> no idea 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
> 
> no. I only used web mail. I never could get pop to work.
> 
> :-)~MIKE~(-: 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Stephen Partington  
> wrote:
> 
> did you use a pop email client? 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Michael Havens  wrote: 
> 
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Re: what happened to gmail.

2014-08-01 Thread Stephen Partington
i cannot recommend this enough.


On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Eric Cope  wrote:

> did you enable 2-factor auth?
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Michael Torres 
> wrote:
>
>> Are you using Chrome? or FireFox?
>>
>> Strange thing happened to me where i could not view any of my messages in
>> FireFox anymore, so I have to access my gmail account in Chrome.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>>
>>> so it only happened to me then it seems.
>>>
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Stephen Partington >> > wrote:
>>>
 no idea



 On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Michael Havens 
 wrote:

> no. I only used web mail. I never could get pop to work.
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Stephen Partington <
> cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> did you use a pop email client?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Michael Havens 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I opened it this morning and my inbox was empty. 4 years worth of
>>> stuff was just gone!
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Re: what happened to gmail.

2014-08-01 Thread Eric Cope
did you enable 2-factor auth?

Eric


On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Michael Torres 
wrote:

> Are you using Chrome? or FireFox?
>
> Strange thing happened to me where i could not view any of my messages in
> FireFox anymore, so I have to access my gmail account in Chrome.
>
> Mike
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>
>> so it only happened to me then it seems.
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Stephen Partington 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> no idea
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>>>
 no. I only used web mail. I never could get pop to work.

 :-)~MIKE~(-:


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 cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> did you use a pop email client?
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Michael Havens 
> wrote:
>
>> I opened it this morning and my inbox was empty. 4 years worth of
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Re: what happened to gmail.

2014-08-01 Thread Michael Havens
I was using chromium but suddenly gmail wouldn't load (the progress bar
would appear but no progress would occur) so I tried chrome but it behaved
the same way. so now I'm using firefox.

:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Michael Torres 
wrote:

> Are you using Chrome? or FireFox?
>
> Strange thing happened to me where i could not view any of my messages in
> FireFox anymore, so I have to access my gmail account in Chrome.
>
> Mike
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>
>> so it only happened to me then it seems.
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Stephen Partington 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> no idea
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>>>
 no. I only used web mail. I never could get pop to work.

 :-)~MIKE~(-:


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 cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> did you use a pop email client?
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Michael Havens 
> wrote:
>
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Re: what happened to gmail.

2014-08-01 Thread Michael Havens
all the mail from today disappeared including the one asking me to check
for suspicious account activity.

:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Daniel Stasinski 
wrote:

> Any suspicious IP's accessing it?  Check Last Account Activity on bottom
> right of inbox.
>
> Daniel
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>
>> no. I only used web mail. I never could get pop to work.
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Stephen Partington 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> did you use a pop email client?
>>>
>>>
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Re: what happened to gmail.

2014-08-01 Thread Michael Torres
Are you using Chrome? or FireFox?

Strange thing happened to me where i could not view any of my messages in
FireFox anymore, so I have to access my gmail account in Chrome.

Mike


On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> so it only happened to me then it seems.
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Stephen Partington 
> wrote:
>
>> no idea
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>>
>>> no. I only used web mail. I never could get pop to work.
>>>
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Stephen Partington >> > wrote:
>>>
 did you use a pop email client?


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> stuff was just gone!
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Re: what happened to gmail.

2014-08-01 Thread Michael Havens
so it only happened to me then it seems.

:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> no idea
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>
>> no. I only used web mail. I never could get pop to work.
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Stephen Partington 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> did you use a pop email client?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>>>
 I opened it this morning and my inbox was empty. 4 years worth of stuff
 was just gone!
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Re: what happened to gmail.

2014-08-01 Thread Daniel Stasinski
Any suspicious IP's accessing it?  Check Last Account Activity on bottom
right of inbox.

Daniel


On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> no. I only used web mail. I never could get pop to work.
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Stephen Partington 
> wrote:
>
>> did you use a pop email client?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>>
>>> I opened it this morning and my inbox was empty. 4 years worth of stuff
>>> was just gone!
>>>  :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
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Re: what happened to gmail.

2014-08-01 Thread Stephen Partington
no idea



On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> no. I only used web mail. I never could get pop to work.
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Stephen Partington 
> wrote:
>
>> did you use a pop email client?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>>
>>> I opened it this morning and my inbox was empty. 4 years worth of stuff
>>> was just gone!
>>>  :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
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>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
>>
>> Stephen
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Re: what happened to gmail.

2014-08-01 Thread Michael Havens
no. I only used web mail. I never could get pop to work.

:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> did you use a pop email client?
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>
>> I opened it this morning and my inbox was empty. 4 years worth of stuff
>> was just gone!
>>  :-)~MIKE~(-:
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Re: what happened to gmail.

2014-08-01 Thread Stephen Partington
did you use a pop email client?


On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> I opened it this morning and my inbox was empty. 4 years worth of stuff
> was just gone!
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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what happened to gmail.

2014-08-01 Thread Michael Havens
I opened it this morning and my inbox was empty. 4 years worth of stuff was
just gone!
:-)~MIKE~(-:
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