Re: OT: Looking for programming books

[storkus]

On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 09:55:00 -0700, "Micah DesJardins"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Also, www.half.com and www.amazon.com are both great places to pick up
> gently used copies of these sorts of books at a deep discount.
> 
> Micah

That's what I was thinking, Micah; also, I was on E-Bay yesterday and I
saw even deeper discounts.  The downside: you have to trust the seller
that they're telling you the honest truth about the condition of the
book!  Or that they're honest, period...

Thanks, Mike

> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Ryan Rix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Just grab up some O'Rielly books on all those subjects; They are, imho, some
> > of the best resources you could possibly have. If you want a preview, most
> > libraries carry at least a few (at least some O'Rielly books are on the
> > westside, both at Glendale Foothills and Phoenix Juniper, iirc)
> >
> > ~Ryan
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 6:30 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> After being told it's probably ok, I'll put out my request.
> >>
> >> If anyone has some programming books they feel they can part with, I'd
> >> like to buy them.  I'm looking for books on C, Perl, Python, and shell
> >> scripting, and possibly more.
> >> I *REALLY* would like K&R 2 or similar, along with anything else by the
> >> old Bell boys like "The UNIX Programming Environment".
> >>
> >> Thanks, Mike
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Re: OT: Myth Busters in Tucson

[Scarlett Clark]

Myth Busters are great! I love that show. Too bad I am in Virginia or I would 
go :(

Scarlett


On Monday 29 September 2008 01:40:24 Dan Lund wrote:
> So don't go?
>
> Thanks,
> Dan Lund
>
> To exercise power costs effort and demands courage. That is why so
> many fail to assert rights to which they are perfectly entitled -
> because a right is a kind of power but they are too lazy or too
> cowardly to exercise it.  The virtues which cloak these faults are
> called patience and forbearance.
> -Friedrich Nietzsche
>
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 9:48 PM, eculbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ??? Never heard of them!! And wouldn't pay that kinda price for any
> > show!!
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Re: OT: Looking for programming books

[Mike Schwartz]

on a related topic, the *Connexions* project:  http://cnx.org/
has some free course-ware that might be of interest,
[especially] if you are on a limited budget.
quote from
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connexions :
<< "*Connexions* is a global repository of educational content that can be
adapted and updated by new authors. [...] the whole collection is available
free of charge, and students and learners can explore all the content.
Connexions is pioneering, along with other projects such as MIT
OpenCourseWare  and the Public
Library of Science ,
the idea of open educational
resources —
that scholarly and educational content can and should be shared, re-used and
recombined, interconnected and continually enriched." >>
Hey, cool!  if there is any "gap" or problem with the quality, you
can suggest an improvement!  since it is [to be] "continually enriched"...!
Sound familiar?  (like, analogous to FLOSS?)
-- 
Mike Schwartz
Glendale  AZ
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Joshua Zeidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  well if youre up for a real challege, see open courseware:
>
> http://www.distance-education.org/Articles/Open-Courseware--How-You-Can-Take-Classes-at-MIT--Stanford--or-Harvard-for-Free-45.html
>
>  -jmz
>
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 6:30 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > After being told it's probably ok, I'll put out my request.
> >
> > If anyone has some programming books they feel they can part with, I'd
> > like to buy them.  I'm looking for books on C, Perl, Python, and shell
> > scripting, and possibly more.
> > I *REALLY* would like K&R 2 or similar, along with anything else by the
> > old Bell boys like "The UNIX Programming Environment".
> >
> > Thanks, Mike
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3G wireless network for Linux

[Joe]

Does anyone use one of those 3G wireless network cards with their Linux 
system? If so, what provider and how well does it work. I'm currently 
with Sprint and was thinking about going with their USB wireless card 
for data access and others said Verizon might be better.

Thoughts? Experiences?
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Re: 3G wireless network for Linux

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On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does anyone use one of those 3G wireless network cards with their Linux
> system? If so, what provider and how well does it work. I'm currently
> with Sprint and was thinking about going with their USB wireless card
> for data access and others said Verizon might be better.
>
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Re: OT: Emergency Buy Out

[Joshua Zeidner]

  just want to note here... as many are aware, the new revised (pork
barrel) bill passed in the Senate.

  among those representatives who claim they may change their mind on
the bailout is John Shadegg (R-AZ).

  please consider calling him and voicing your opinion on the
legislation.  phone: 202-225-3361

 -jmz


On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:50 AM, keith smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Let financial institutions fail, merge or be bought out. The faltering
> institutions will see their shares devalued and will be likely to be taken
> over by stronger institutions — as has already started happening. This
> consolidation of the financial sector is both efficient and inevitable;
> government action can only delay the adjustment.
>
> http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1845209,00.html?cnn=yes
>
> Sounds like the bailout is only going to make things worse.
>
> 
> Keith Smith
>
>
>
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Re: OT: Emergency Buy Out

[Joshua Zeidner]

  At the least, leave him a message :
http://johnshadegg.house.gov/Contact/ContactForm.htm

  thanks everyone, jmz

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Joshua Zeidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  just want to note here... as many are aware, the new revised (pork
> barrel) bill passed in the Senate.
>
>  among those representatives who claim they may change their mind on
> the bailout is John Shadegg (R-AZ).
>
>  please consider calling him and voicing your opinion on the
> legislation.  phone: 202-225-3361
>
>  -jmz
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:50 AM, keith smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Let financial institutions fail, merge or be bought out. The faltering
>> institutions will see their shares devalued and will be likely to be taken
>> over by stronger institutions — as has already started happening. This
>> consolidation of the financial sector is both efficient and inevitable;
>> government action can only delay the adjustment.
>>
>> http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1845209,00.html?cnn=yes
>>
>> Sounds like the bailout is only going to make things worse.
>>
>> 
>> Keith Smith
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Easy Wine+IE6 setup (was Re: FW: On topic message about Off topic messages Various Solutions)

[Charles Jones]

Just thought I would mention that I've found this to be the easiest way 
to setup Internet Exploder 6 on linux:

http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Installation

It has a nice installer that sets it all up for you, including flash9 
plugin, etc.


-Charles

Charles Jones wrote:

Lisa Kachold wrote:
Charles, how is that notebook wireless connection and Apache2 
VirtuaHost SSL issue I helped you troubleshoot for your home DSL Name 
based virtual hosting during the InstallFest?  I believe that was 
you?  That was a really fun day?

That wasn't me, but it sounds like it was indeed fun :-)



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Re: OT: Emergency Buy Out

[Eric Cope]

Can't leave a message, his mail box is full. I guess we will need to call
him tomorrow.
Eric

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Joshua Zeidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  At the least, leave him a message :
> http://johnshadegg.house.gov/Contact/ContactForm.htm
>
>  thanks everyone, jmz
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Joshua Zeidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >  just want to note here... as many are aware, the new revised (pork
> > barrel) bill passed in the Senate.
> >
> >  among those representatives who claim they may change their mind on
> > the bailout is John Shadegg (R-AZ).
> >
> >  please consider calling him and voicing your opinion on the
> > legislation.  phone: 202-225-3361
> >
> >  -jmz
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:50 AM, keith smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Let financial institutions fail, merge or be bought out. The faltering
> >> institutions will see their shares devalued and will be likely to be
> taken
> >> over by stronger institutions — as has already started happening. This
> >> consolidation of the financial sector is both efficient and inevitable;
> >> government action can only delay the adjustment.
> >>
> >>
> http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1845209,00.html?cnn=yes
> >>
> >> Sounds like the bailout is only going to make things worse.
> >>
> >> 
> >> Keith Smith
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: OT: Emergency Buy Out

[Joshua Zeidner]

 got the same response...

 Democracy: FTW!  -jmz

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Eric Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can't leave a message, his mail box is full. I guess we will need to call
> him tomorrow.
> Eric
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Joshua Zeidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>  At the least, leave him a message :
>> http://johnshadegg.house.gov/Contact/ContactForm.htm
>>
>>  thanks everyone, jmz
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Joshua Zeidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >  just want to note here... as many are aware, the new revised (pork
>> > barrel) bill passed in the Senate.
>> >
>> >  among those representatives who claim they may change their mind on
>> > the bailout is John Shadegg (R-AZ).
>> >
>> >  please consider calling him and voicing your opinion on the
>> > legislation.  phone: 202-225-3361
>> >
>> >  -jmz
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:50 AM, keith smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Let financial institutions fail, merge or be bought out. The faltering
>> >> institutions will see their shares devalued and will be likely to be
>> >> taken
>> >> over by stronger institutions — as has already started happening. This
>> >> consolidation of the financial sector is both efficient and inevitable;
>> >> government action can only delay the adjustment.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1845209,00.html?cnn=yes
>> >>
>> >> Sounds like the bailout is only going to make things worse.
>> >>
>> >> 
>> >> Keith Smith
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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RE: Easy Wine+IE6 setup (was Re: FW: On topic message about Off topic messages Various Solutions) URI Exploits

[Lisa Kachold]

The only practical uses for IE6 that I have found are testing browser CSS or 
Javascript, Extended Validation Certificates, and of course,  email filtering 
maintenance in Sharepoint and Outlook. 

I haven't found anything that even touches 1/2 of what FireBug, Web 
Development, NoScript, Flickr or the other great plugins available for FireFox 
3.0 provides for IE!

Opera is a nice browser and will work, unlike FireFox 3, with Silverlight and 
some of the web site live conferencing sites that are still broken (ah, I mean 
"URI secure").  Opera is a fine phone browser BTW, if you run your own 
applications on a PDA.

Firefox 3.0 now protects systems from URI handling exploits (which allow a 
computer to be completely taken over via browser in Firefox 2.0.0.5 and/or 
Explorer (especially when installed together in a Microsoft box via "chrome" 
see  http://www.metasploit.com).  

These exploits were especially insidious since they often began through a 
simple trip to a website, and are nearly impossible to track back to the source 
when XSS proxy exploits are included (which show only the packet traffic to the 
Apache system with the XSS holes - like Google or another famous public site 
everyone frequents.  These dangerous exploits are still in place [even to the 
point of allowing for control of your internal DSL routers - seeing all of your 
protected cache, passwords and browser history]) so everyone should immediately 
upgrade their older Linux Firefox to 3.0!  Generally, all you would have seen 
would have been a File Not Found after a pause, as the nice encrypted tunnel 
over port 80/443 sets up to announce you everytime you come online to the 
attacker irregardless of your DHCP address.  

Sometimes, it's just easier to buy a nice DHCP key, move off your files and 
rebuild under a nice Fedora 9 or Ubuntu - and get all the newest features as 
well?


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messages Various Solutions)






  


Just thought I would mention that I've found this to be the easiest way
to setup Internet Exploder 6 on linux:

http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Installation



It has a nice installer that sets it all up for you, including flash9
plugin, etc.



-Charles



Charles Jones wrote:

  
Lisa Kachold wrote:
  

Charles, how is that notebook
wireless
connection and Apache2 VirtuaHost SSL issue I helped you troubleshoot
for your home DSL Name based virtual hosting during the InstallFest?  I
believe that was you?  That was a really fun day?


  
That wasn't me, but it sounds like it was indeed fun :-)

  

  


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September 11, 2008 Noon!



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Thanks for the tips...I may switch to using server-side filtering
instead of making Thunderbird do it :)

  

-Charles






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Re: OT but not political: A touch of KDE on AZCentral?

[Kurt Granroth]

Alan Dayley wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Tuna  wrote:
>> Anyone ever notice that the icons on AZCentral.com are from KDE? Take a
>> look at this:
> 
>> http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/articles/2008/08/16/20080816schooloutsource08162008-CR.html
> 
>> Those are totally KDE icons! Like the one for "Print" and "Send Email"
>> (or maybe it's attach or something, I'm not using the default theme
>> right now). And I'm pretty sure that star is for Konqueror's Bookmarks
>> thing.
> 
> Good catch!  Those definately are KDE icons.  As a long-time KDE user,
> I recognized them right away, once you pointed them out.
> 
> KDE icons are licensed under the LGPL.  How that license applies to
> graphic visuals and how a site user can be informed adequately of
> that, I haven't thought about.  A Google search
> "site:www.azcentral.com lgpl" comes up empty.

That is actually *very* common.  Once you start looking for KDE icons on
websites, you will find them seemingly everywhere.

The KDE icons are LGPL, as you say.  That means that anybody can use
them on their own site.  Technically speaking, they have to have a copy
of the LGPL available... but what "available" means varies depending on
who you talk to.



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FW: [Volunteers] Linuxchix Miniconf 2009 Call for Presentations

[Lisa Kachold]

Call for Presentations on the Other Side

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 11:52:13 +0930
> Subject: [Volunteers] Linuxchix Miniconf 2009 Call for Presentations
> 
> LinuxChix mini-conf 2009: Call for Presentations
> 
> LinuxChix is pleased to announce that they'll be hosting the LinuxChix
> mini-conf at Linux.conf.au in January, 2009 in Hobart, Tasmania. This
> mini-conf exists to encourage women with an interest in free and open
> source technology to share their ideas, network and improve their
> presentation skills.
> 
> We are now calling for presentations by women on both free and open
> source software (FOSS) technical topics and other topics of general
> interest to women involved in open source software or working in IT.
> 
> The presentations will likely cover a spectrum ranging from technical
> talks to professional development and community topics. For example, a
> talk on productivity strategies or how to negotiate successfully in
> business might fit in the professional development stream, while a
> community-focused talk might look at how to get involved with mentoring
> groups which go out to schools and evangelise the benefits of getting
> girls into IT, or what kind of steps an open source project can take to
> increase female participation.
> 
> (If you'd like an idea of the kind of presentations given at the Chix
> miniconf last year, you can look at the program here:
> http://conf.linux.org.au/programme/tuesday#linuxchix)
> 
> We strongly encourage you to submit a paper which falls under the
> following general categories:
> technical
> professional development and productivity
> community
> 
> Please stipulate in your proposal the format you're proposing (ie
> presentation, tutorial or workshop). We will look very
> favourably upon proposals which encourage participation and action.
> 
> While LCA is a technical conference and clearly Chix attendees as much
> as anyone else will want to talk tech, we're also keen to devise ways to
> involve younger or less experienced LCAers to attend and get involved
> with the the Miniconf. Perhaps this could be a 'how to' session such as
> how to set up an open source blog or how to set up a web server. Or it
> could be a guide to getting involved in an open source project, or how
> to start hacking on something simple.
> 
> Our goal for the day is to ensure a good mix of listening and
> speaking/networking time (question time is important! as is
> networking!).
> 
> *About the mini-conf*
> 
> LCA 2009 will be the third anniversary of the LinuxChix mini-conf. It
> will be held on either Monday the 19th or Tuesday the 20th of January,
> 2008 (We don't know which) at the University of Tasmania in Hobart, as
> part of the annual linux.conf.au conference. All attendees of
> linux.conf.au are welcome to attend the women's mini-conf, but are
> reminded that the focus of the miniconf is encouraging female
> participation in open source.
> 
> There is no need to be an active member of LinuxChix, as attendees and
> speakers from other women's advocacy and development groups including
> project-specific women's groups and others, are encouraged to
> participate.
> 
> The mini-conf has both 50 minute and 25 minute talks slots available. We
> recommend that inexperienced Speakers opt for the shorter slots and plan
> to present for around 15 minutes; the remaining time will be devoted to
> discussion. Experienced speakers may choose to opt for a full 50 minute
> slot, and prepare to talk for 35-40 minutes. We reserve the right to
> request that 35 minute presentations be shortened to 15 minutes to
> enable best use of the time we have. Abstracts for talk proposals should
> be submitted
> 
> to: Linuxchix Miniconf Organisers
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> by: Monday 20th October 2008 12:00 GMT
> 
> All talks should be on Free and Open Source Software related topics.
> 
> Please see http://conf.au.linuxchix.org for more information about the
> women's mini-conference and http://conf.au.linuxchix.org/2009-cfp for
> full details of the call for presentations.
> 
> We are very keen to include women who may not have attended LCA or given
> a presentation to a tech conference before, so please help us get the
> message out by forwarding this announcement to any women or groups you
> think would be interested. Students, professional IT geeks or hobbyists
> are all equally welcome. :)
> 
> About LinuxChix
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> for women and men who want to support women in computing. The membership
> ranges from novices to experienced users, and includes professional and
> amateur programmers, system administrators and technical writers.
> 
> About linux.conf.au
> 
> linux.conf.au (http://linux.conf.au/) is Australia's annual technical
> conference on Free Software. Fun, informal and seriously technical,
> linux.conf.au draws together Free

Re: OT but not political: A touch of KDE on AZCentral?

[Matt Graham]

After a long battle with technology, Kurt Granroth wrote:
> Alan Dayley wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Tuna  wrote:
>>> http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/articles/2008/08/16/20080816schoolo
>>> utsource08162008-CR.html
>>> Those are totally KDE icons!
>> KDE icons are licensed under the LGPL.  How that license applies to
>> graphic visuals and how a site user can be informed adequately
> That is actually *very* common.  Once you start looking for KDE icons on
> websites, you will find them seemingly everywhere. Technically speaking, 
> they have to have a copy of the LGPL available... but what "available" means
> varies depending on who you talk to.

I brought this to the attention of some people who may be able to get it 
fixed.  No idea when that'll happen though.

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OT: Phoenix Sci-Fi Event in January

[Joseph Sinclair]

Just letting people know that Phoenix has it's own Sci-Fi convention (Phoenix 
Comicon) coming in January.
A friend is part of the event staff and asked me to let people know it's 
coming, and they have a great slate of star-guests coming to speak and meet 
with fans.  They're still adding guests, so check back every couple weeks for 
the latest.  (and yes, I know the website has layout issues in Firefox on 
Linux, I'll let them know and offer to help fix it, if you have the web 
developer toolbar extension, just disable the embedded styles, the problem is a 
3 line snip of style info that's not correct)

The website is www.phoenixcomicon.com


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Re: OT: Phoenix Sci-Fi Event in January

[Ben Francom]

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Joseph Sinclair
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just letting people know that Phoenix has it's own Sci-Fi convention (Phoenix 
> Comicon) coming in January.
> A friend is part of the event staff and asked me to let people know it's 
> coming, and they have a great slate of star-guests coming to speak and meet 
> with fans.  They're still adding guests, so check back every couple weeks for 
> the latest.

If they are going to show the trailer for TR2N, I want in.
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dd if=hda1 of=whatever ???????

[mike havens]

I hate windows! I hate it when I get a virus! Igot a brand new one
last night I was happily tip-tapping away last night but when I got up
in the morning everything was moving very s-l-o-w-l-y! After
running clam nothing was discovered so I just reinstalled my system.
So I figure that a good thing to do is to get the system like I want
it and then dd the primary drive. That way if I get a virus all I need
to do is dd the file back ontoo the hard drive. So I suppose that I
will need to put grub in the boot loader. Does this soun doable? Who
is gacious enough to help? WHich distro do you recommend? I was
thinking of using PHLAK  but in my hands I have xubunt
6.1, mepis 2003.10.02, Slax 4.2.0, and mepis 3.4-3

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Re: dd if=hda1 of=whatever ???????

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Assuming that you have another machine with enough space to hold the Window$ 
drive, you can:
Boot both machines in Linux.
 From the one with the Window$ installation:
dd if=/dev/?da0|ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] cat - > my-windoze.iso 


But I would just install the last Kubuntu, setup Windoze in a virtual 
machine and replace the file every time it gets screwed.
Good luck...
Enrique 

 

mike havens writes: 

> I hate windows! I hate it when I get a virus! Igot a brand new one
> last night I was happily tip-tapping away last night but when I got up
> in the morning everything was moving very s-l-o-w-l-y! After
> running clam nothing was discovered so I just reinstalled my system.
> So I figure that a good thing to do is to get the system like I want
> it and then dd the primary drive. That way if I get a virus all I need
> to do is dd the file back ontoo the hard drive. So I suppose that I
> will need to put grub in the boot loader. Does this soun doable? Who
> is gacious enough to help? WHich distro do you recommend? I was
> thinking of using PHLAK  but in my hands I have xubunt
> 6.1, mepis 2003.10.02, Slax 4.2.0, and mepis 3.4-3 
> 
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Re: Easy Wine+IE6 setup (was Re: FW: On topic message about Off topic messages Various Solutions) URI Exploits

[Charles Jones]

Sorry If I didn't make it clear: I was not suggesting that IE is a 
decent browser or that anyone should install it for any other reason 
that ones similar to what you mention in your first paragraph. Sadly 
there are quite a few Cisco web-based applications, among a few others, 
that only work in IE, not to mention sites like MSDN and extra 
functionality for things like Outlook Web Access. For these rare 
instances I would rather fire up IE6 in wine rather than boot a VM or 
keep a spare laptop around just for use IE.


-Charles

Lisa Kachold wrote:
The only practical uses for IE6 that I have found are testing browser 
CSS or Javascript, Extended Validation Certificates, and of course,  
email filtering maintenance in Sharepoint and Outlook.

I haven't found anything that even touches 1/2 of what FireBug, Web 
Development, NoScript, Flickr or the other great plugins available for 
FireFox 3.0 provides for IE!


Opera is a nice browser and will work, unlike FireFox 3, with 
Silverlight and some of the web site live conferencing sites that are 
still broken (ah, I mean "URI secure").  Opera is a fine phone browser 
BTW, if you run your own applications on a PDA.


Firefox 3.0 now protects systems from URI handling exploits (which 
allow a computer to be completely taken over via browser in Firefox 
2.0.0.5 and/or Explorer (especially when installed together in a 
Microsoft box via "chrome" see  http://www.metasploit.com). 

These exploits were especially insidious since they often began 
through a simple trip to a website, and are nearly impossible to track 
back to the source when XSS proxy exploits are included (which show 
only the packet traffic to the Apache system with the XSS holes - like 
Google or another famous public site everyone frequents.  These 
dangerous exploits are still in place [even to the point of allowing 
for control of your internal DSL routers - seeing all of your 
protected cache, passwords and browser history]) so everyone should 
immediately upgrade their older Linux Firefox to 3.0!  Generally, all 
you would have seen would have been a File Not Found after a pause, as 
the nice encrypted tunnel over port 80/443 sets up to announce you 
everytime you come online to the attacker irregardless of your DHCP 
address. 

Sometimes, it's just easier to buy a nice DHCP key, move off your 
files and rebuild under a nice Fedora 9 or Ubuntu - and get all the 
newest features as well?



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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 17:53:33 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Subject: Easy Wine+IE6 setup (was Re: FW: On topic message about Off 
topic messages Various Solutions)


Just thought I would mention that I've found this to be the easiest 
way to setup Internet Exploder 6 on linux:

http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Installation

It has a nice installer that sets it all up for you, including flash9 
plugin, etc.


-Charles

Charles Jones wrote:

Lisa Kachold wrote:

Charles, how is that notebook wireless connection and Apache2
VirtuaHost SSL issue I helped you troubleshoot for your home
DSL Name based virtual hosting during the InstallFest?  I
believe that was you?  That was a really fun day?

That wasn't me, but it sounds like it was indeed fun :-)


Join us for the Next PLUG Linux Security HackFest LAB at UAT
on September 11, 2008 Noon!

Solutions for Filtering Messages either into Trash, Folder
and/or Email forwarding:

Thanks for the tips...I may switch to using server-side filtering
instead of making Thunderbird do it :)

-Charles




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Re: dd if=hda1 of=whatever ???????

[James Finstrom]

I find sadly windows runs better in virtual box on linux then directly
installed. That said I would connect two drives and boot to a live cd
like the kubuntu disk ad do the dd

On 10/2/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Assuming that you have another machine with enough space to hold the Window$
> drive, you can:
> Boot both machines in Linux.
>  From the one with the Window$ installation:
> dd if=/dev/?da0|ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] cat - > my-windoze.iso
>
>
> But I would just install the last Kubuntu, setup Windoze in a virtual
> machine and replace the file every time it gets screwed.
> Good luck...
> Enrique
>
>
>
> mike havens writes:
>
>> I hate windows! I hate it when I get a virus! Igot a brand new one
>> last night I was happily tip-tapping away last night but when I got up
>> in the morning everything was moving very s-l-o-w-l-y! After
>> running clam nothing was discovered so I just reinstalled my system.
>> So I figure that a good thing to do is to get the system like I want
>> it and then dd the primary drive. That way if I get a virus all I need
>> to do is dd the file back ontoo the hard drive. So I suppose that I
>> will need to put grub in the boot loader. Does this soun doable? Who
>> is gacious enough to help? WHich distro do you recommend? I was
>> thinking of using PHLAK  but in my hands I have xubunt
>> 6.1, mepis 2003.10.02, Slax 4.2.0, and mepis 3.4-3
>>
>> --
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