Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

[JD Austin]

It can't find either module via modprobe :(


On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Patrick Jacques <
patr...@kinetic-computing.net> wrote:

>  Greetings,
>
> Smoothwall might be trying to use sk98lin for the DGE card, but  have you
> tried the sky2 module?  Or vise-versa, try removing/disabling sky2 or
> sk98lin, whichever one smoothwall is detecting & trying on boot.  The
> Nextreme (broadcom) uses the tg3 driver.  Are you able to switch to another
> virtual console to 'modprobe sky2 && modprobe tg3' before the network
> configuration section?  Also, which version of smoothwall are you working
> with? I noticed fixes for tg3 in recent releases.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sir Light wrote:
>
> *waves to JD*
>
> I have a server from ebay for REAL cheap. It is a Compaq DL380 G2 that is now 
> running my firewall(IPCop) that I got for $65. It has a pair of pIII cpus, a 
> gig of memory and a pair of 36gigs HD(using just one of them) You might want 
> to try there.
>
> IPCop installed just great on it. I then restored the configuration that I 
> saved from my old firewall box.
>
> Jon
>
>  JD Austin   wrote:
>
>
>  10 years ago I used to recompile kernels almost every day to get it to
> support the hardware I had, now days it is a rarety.  I'm scheduled to
> install the firewall on Friday but I've sent the better part of 3 days
> building and rebuilding smoothwall to try to get it to support the network
> cards in a Dell T105 server.  In their infinite wisdom they won't let you
> proceed with the install until you've configured at least one network card.
> Mandriva 2009 shows them as NetXtreme BCM5722 gigabit PCI Express (card on
> MB) and DGE-560T Ethernet Adapter (PCIe X1).
>
> I have the source for both drivers (sk98lin for both).  I'm about to give up
> and try to find a dual nic intel card that will fit in this machine
> (supposedly supported).
> This machine only has 1 3.3v pci slot, 1 PCIeX1, and 2 PCIeX8 slots.
>  Who might carry such a network card in town (Fry's only has a Dlink card
> DGE-560T above)?
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RE: Free Software FPS

[Lisa Kachold]

Hans tempted us with:

> moin moin,
> 
> http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/26/0726243
> 
> Anyone played with it? Is it a good game?
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabetical_list_of_open_source_games

LinCity is especially amusing in that there are two ways to "win".  Develop 
sustainability or evacuate with space craft.

> Hmm, not complete since Blood Frontier isn't in the list :).
> 
> Who wants to do a presentation on the state of Free Software gaming?

I would like to see screenshots and talk with gamers?  Let's podcast it for 
YouTube?

> ciao,
> 
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OT: Outsourcing

[Lisa Kachold]

YouTube - Obama Vows To Stop America's Jobs From Going Overseas· Int'l 
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Re: Dead Firewall!

[Shawn Badger]

IPCOP is a very basic Linux version and all TUI based for setup. The worst
that you have to run is the setup.sh script that goes through and configures
the NIC's and such.  I wouldn't worry about the video card at all.

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

>  Yes, installing first in another system and just moving the drive should
> work - might also want to choose a similar and video card for the base
> install box and consider doing a full source install (including nice kernel
> sources depending on distro) in case the kernel might need something later.
>
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> > From: e...@shubes.net
> > Subject: Re: Dead Firewall!
> > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:51:36 -0700
>
> >
> > der.hans wrote:
> > > Am 27. Jan, 2009 schwätzte farli so:
> > >
> > >> Geez! Its been so long that I dont even remember how to find out what
> > >> the hard drive is!
> > >
> > > Pentium 200 with no USB, so the drive is almost certainly and IDE
> drive.
> > > It's for a firewall, so pretty well any old IDE drive at this point
> will
> > > be large enough to hold the necessary OS.
> > >
> > > ciao,
> > >
> > > der.hans
> > >
> >
> > Sounds like we might want to do as Shawn suggested then. I'll have a
> > spare PC we can connect/mount the IDE drive in, then install from CD,
> > then move the IDE drive back to its home and run setup. I'm assuming we
> > can remove/reinstall the HDD in whatever boxen this is.
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RE: Dead Firewall!

[Lisa Kachold]

Make darned sure you have the most recent IPCOP release, of course (Shawn knows 
this better than most!) as there have been various exploits for EVERYTHING.

And follow their implementation recommendations related to turning SSH off (a 
VPN or tunnel is trivial to add); this is not optional.

I will try to be there to watch the fun...but might not be able to.

http://www.ipcop.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=41

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:12:56 -0700
Subject: Re: Dead Firewall!
From: badger.sh...@gmail.com
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us

IPCOP is a very basic Linux version and all TUI based for setup. The worst that 
you have to run is the setup.sh script that goes through and configures the 
NIC's and such.  I wouldn't worry about the video card at all.


On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Lisa Kachold  wrote:






Yes, installing first in another system and just moving the drive should work - 
might also want to choose a similar and video card for the base install box and 
consider doing a full source install (including nice kernel sources depending 
on distro) in case the kernel might need something later.


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> From: e...@shubes.net
> Subject: Re: Dead Firewall!
> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:51:36 -0700
> 
> der.hans wrote:

> > Am 27. Jan, 2009 schwätzte farli so:
> > 
> >> Geez!  Its been so long that I dont even remember how to find out what
> >> the hard drive is!
> > 
> > Pentium 200 with no USB, so the drive is almost certainly and IDE drive.

> > It's for a firewall, so pretty well any old IDE drive at this point will
> > be large enough to hold the necessary OS.
> > 
> > ciao,
> > 
> > der.hans
> > 

> 
> Sounds like we might want to do as Shawn suggested then. I'll have a 
> spare PC we can connect/mount the IDE drive in, then install from CD, 
> then move the IDE drive back to its home and run setup. I'm assuming we 

> can remove/reinstall the HDD in whatever boxen this is.
> 
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KNOPPIX 6.0 Released

[Lisa Kachold]

KNOPPIX 6.0
is out.  There's a lot of changes including a rewrite of the boot system,
the LXDE desktop environment, a
slimmed-down package set, and the ADRIANE
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Re: Free Software FPS

[Tuna]

Am I the only one that finds xtux incredibly addictive?
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Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

[Patrick Jacques]

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Patrick Jacques 
wrote:

  
  
Also, which version of
smoothwall are you working with? 






  
  




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Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

[JD Austin]

Laurence J. Peter  - "It's better to have loved and lost than to have to do
forty pounds of laundry a week."

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Patrick Jacques <
patr...@kinetic-computing.net> wrote:

>  On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Patrick Jacques <
> patr...@kinetic-computing.net> wrote:
>
>  Also, which version of smoothwall are you working with?
>
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It is smoothwall version 3.0 sp1.
I also tried ipcop but it couldn't see the cdrom it was booting from,
pfsense didn't detect the cards either.
Mandriva 2009 LiveCD worked just fine.
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RE: KNOPPIX 6.0 Released

[Bob Elzer]

Here is a torrent download of the CD
http://www.torrentdownloads.net/torrent/405029/KNOPPIX+6.0+English+Version.h
tml
 
 

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KNOPPIX   6.0 is out.
There's a lot of changes including a rewrite of the boot system, the LXDE
  desktop environment, a slimmed-down package set, and
the ADRIANE   audio
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Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

[Eric Shubert]

JD Austin wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Laurence J. Peter  - "It's better to have loved and lost than to have to 
> do forty pounds of laundry a week."
> 
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Patrick Jacques 
> mailto:patr...@kinetic-computing.net>> 
> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Patrick Jacques
>  > wrote:
>>
>> Also, which version of smoothwall are you working with?
>>
>>
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> It is smoothwall version 3.0 sp1. 
> I also tried ipcop but it couldn't see the cdrom it was booting from, 
> pfsense didn't detect the cards either.
> Mandriva 2009 LiveCD worked just fine.
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Re: Free Software FPS

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What i have seen from alot fo free games.

2 things seem to happen, they have a good concept but run out fo
steama nd tech to follow through or that a tech side is great or the
art/concept side is great and the other suffers.

so usually the games that are good are paid games in some shape or form

This being said, some of the best game programmers from the free
community usually get absorbed, so some very good projects were free
origonally mods to an existing game ect.

that being said this look slike a nice and clean project with a nice
and solid concept. and some good background technologies.. until i get
thsi downloaded ill have no idea how good it is.. but ill find out :-)

cause id like to see some solid opensource games



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[Article] Cox ready to throttle P2P, non "time sensitive" traffic

[Stephen P Rufle]

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/01/cox-opens-up-throttle-for-p2p-non-time-sensitive-traffic.ars
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Re: [Article] Cox ready to throttle P2P, non "time sensitive" traffic

[Anthony Boynes]

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Stephen P Rufle
 wrote:
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Hrmm.  Here are the types of traffic that will be delayed at the
beginning of the trial.

* File Access (Bulk transfers of data such as FTP)
* Network Storage (Bulk transfers of data for storage)
* P2P (Peer to peer protocols)
* Software Updates (Managed updates such as operating system updates)
* Usenet (Newsgroup related)


Why the heck would they want to delay OS updates? That seems rather silly to me.


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Re: [Article] Cox ready to throttle P2P, non "time sensitive" traffic

[Stephen]

i think overall its bs... because it now will bend over legit users and useages


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> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Stephen P Rufle
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>
>* File Access (Bulk transfers of data such as FTP)
>* Network Storage (Bulk transfers of data for storage)
>* P2P (Peer to peer protocols)
>* Software Updates (Managed updates such as operating system updates)
>* Usenet (Newsgroup related)
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>
> Why the heck would they want to delay OS updates? That seems rather silly to 
> me.
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Re: [Article] Cox ready to throttle P2P, non "time sensitive" traffic

[Stephen]

however now that i reread it it makes sense.. during peak congested
times... should be interesting.

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Stephen  wrote:
> i think overall its bs... because it now will bend over legit users and 
> useages
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Anthony Boynes  wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Stephen P Rufle
>>  wrote:
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>> Hrmm.  Here are the types of traffic that will be delayed at the
>> beginning of the trial.
>>
>>* File Access (Bulk transfers of data such as FTP)
>>* Network Storage (Bulk transfers of data for storage)
>>* P2P (Peer to peer protocols)
>>* Software Updates (Managed updates such as operating system updates)
>>* Usenet (Newsgroup related)
>>
>>
>> Why the heck would they want to delay OS updates? That seems rather silly to 
>> me.
>>
>>
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FW: Mac Support

[Lisa Kachold]

Any hardcore MAC Security type people other there who would like a nice gig for 
a local business?

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Re: [Article] Cox ready to throttle P2P, non "time sensitive" traffic

[Jason]

If I'm reading this correctly, youtube videos get priority over
Operating System software updates and Linux torrent distribution?

That's kinda interesting...I don't see "viral traffic" on the list of
"low priority". 

Of course, this is the corporate ideas. I can tell you that I will sell
you a 2MB connection to the Internet, but now I get to tell you what you
can use it for, PLUS, I don't have to stick to my original agreement
that I advertise you will have a 2MB connection to the Internet.

1. False Advertising (Covered in the fine print now.)
2. False Monitoring

Oh, just so you all know, Cox is raising their rates another $3.00/month
as well. I received the letter 2 days ago.




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Re: [Article] Cox ready to throttle P2P, non "time sensitive" traffic

[Charles Jones]

Anthony Boynes wrote:

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Stephen P Rufle
 wrote:
  

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/01/cox-opens-up-throttle-for-p2p-non-time-sensitive-traffic.ars
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Hrmm.  Here are the types of traffic that will be delayed at the
beginning of the trial.

* File Access (Bulk transfers of data such as FTP)
* Network Storage (Bulk transfers of data for storage)
* P2P (Peer to peer protocols)
* Software Updates (Managed updates such as operating system updates)
* Usenet (Newsgroup related)


Why the heck would they want to delay OS updates? That seems rather silly to me.
  
How can they tell the difference between something like yum or apt 
grabbing stuff from a repo via HTTP, and normal web usage? Or do they 
just assume everyone is running windows and throttle everything hitting 
the MS windows update farm?


I also wonder if they plan on doing this throttling for people who pay 
for the "premium" service. After all, isn't it likely that the reason 
you are paying for more bandwidth is exactly so that you can do "bulk 
transfers of data", etc? I would be pissed if I paid for the premier 
service just for the 2MB upload, just to have them shape it because they 
want to reduce "file uploads".


Of course they say that they wiill only throttle during "network 
congestion", but since they decided what congestion is and how much, 
they can throttle at will. They already throttle *everything*, except 
for the first few seconds, and call that "powerboost". I guess if I 
wanted to download a large file(s) I could just write a script that uses 
prozilla to spawn 24 sessions for a few seconds at a time :P


-Charles
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Re: [Article] Cox ready to throttle P2P, non "time sensitive" traffic

[Craig White]

On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 14:06 -0700, Stephen P Rufle wrote:
> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/01/cox-opens-up-throttle-for-p2p-non-time-sensitive-traffic.ars

Google Fans Net Neutrality Flames with Web Measurement Lab...

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Web-Services-Web-20-and-SOA/Google-Fans-Net-Neutrality-Flames-With-Web-Measurement-Lab/

Craig

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Re: [Article] Cox ready to throttle P2P, non "time sensitive" traffic

[Tuna]

Anthony Boynes wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Stephen P Rufle
>  wrote:
>> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/01/cox-opens-up-throttle-for-p2p-non-time-sensitive-traffic.ars
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> Hrmm.  Here are the types of traffic that will be delayed at the
> beginning of the trial.
> 
> * File Access (Bulk transfers of data such as FTP)
> * Network Storage (Bulk transfers of data for storage)
> * P2P (Peer to peer protocols)
> * Software Updates (Managed updates such as operating system updates)
> * Usenet (Newsgroup related)
> 
> 
> Why the heck would they want to delay OS updates? That seems rather silly to 
> me.
> 

Majority of Windows users don't even care about those. In fact, I'm 
pretty sure nobody does.

Either people don't know what they are or they avoid them on purpose, it 
seems.
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February 14th Valentines Day HackFest

[Lisa Kachold]

  Catch the Patch Procrastinators Recovery Group

  PLUG February HackFest 

Various important security daemon patches have
only recently been released including Bind9,
OpenSSL, cups & NTP for Ubuntu; Redhat5 Avahi (FC 10) and
SquirrelMail. So we will demonstrate exploits available for these
issues:


1) OpenSSL: (Using Debian)
http://www.metasploit.com/users/hdm/tools/debian-openssl/

Brute Forcing Tools Include:
http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/5622
http://metasploit.com/users/hdm/tools/debian-openssl/debian_openssh_key_...


OpenSSL: Examples will also apply to the recent issues with OpenSSL:
Several functions inside OpenSSL incorrectly checked the result after
calling the EVP_VerifyFinal function, allowing a malformed signature
to be treated as a good signature rather than as an error. The issue
affected the signature checks on DSA and ECDSA keys used with
SSL/TLS for various mail systems and DNS systems built upon OpenSSL
also.
We will show an easy 'man in the middle' attack to present a malformed
SSL/TLS signature from a certificate chain
to a vulnerable client, bypassing validation and segway into a
discussion of the MD5 Verisign cert issues.


2) NTP Spoofing: (Using Debian) NTP Spoofing has been a staple of DoS
and remote root exploits since the 1990's. Usually NTP is selectively
allowed to egress DMZ via stateful packet inspection (that will catch
spoofed packets) via source and destination (or served via internal NTP
daemons). It's common to spoof the NTP servers while sending exploitive
packets.
A new issue has been identified:
http://www.debian.org/security/2009/dsa-1702


A simple exploit using netcat will be demonstrated:
http://cybexin.blogspot.com/2009/01/introduction-to-netcat.html


3) Overview of BEef:
http://www.bindshell.net/tools/beef

We
will also look at forensic image from the November Hackfest and discuss
ways to protect (arp, VPN/VLAN, Switches, SELINUX) from the inevitable
pwnership in a production or users desktop system.


We will not dissect squirrelmail, since it's only a XSS issue (similar
to 9 out of 10 running versions of Apache httpd in consumerland). We will not 
dissect
Bind9 because it also relates to the OpenSSL malformed signature. Other
PRNG type entropy issues with SSL exist, just waiting to be
popularlized, so we will wait for the industry to continue to ignore
this and other issues inherent in various protocols.
  

  


It's going to be a fun filled 3 hours of presentations.

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http://nuke.obnosis.com (503)754-4452
PLUG HACKFESTS - http://uat.edu Second Saturday of Each Month Noon - 3PM




> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:21:23 -0700
> From: t...@supertunaman.com
> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: Re: [Article] Cox ready to throttle P2P, non "time sensitive" traffic
> 
> Anthony Boynes wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Stephen P Rufle
> >  wrote:
> >> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/01/cox-opens-up-throttle-for-p2p-non-time-sensitive-traffic.ars
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> > 
> > Hrmm.  Here are the types of traffic that will be delayed at the
> > beginning of the trial.
> > 
> > * File Access (Bulk transfers of data such as FTP)
> > * Network Storage (Bulk transfers of data for storage)
> > * P2P (Peer to peer protocols)
> > * Software Updates (Managed updates such as operating system updates)
> > * Usenet (Newsgroup related)
> > 
> > 
> > Why the heck would they want to delay OS updates? That seems rather silly 
> > to me.
> > 
> 
> Majority of Windows users don't even care about those. In fact, I'm 
> pretty sure nobody does.
> 
> Either people don't know what they are or they avoid them on purpose, it 
> seems.
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Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

[JD Austin]

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Eric Shubert  wrote:

> JD Austin wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Laurence J. Peter  - "It's better to have loved and lost than to have to
> > do forty pounds of laundry a week."
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Patrick Jacques
> > mailto:patr...@kinetic-computing.net>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Patrick Jacques
> >  > > wrote:
> >>
> >> Also, which version of smoothwall are you working with?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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> > It is smoothwall version 3.0 sp1.
> > I also tried ipcop but it couldn't see the cdrom it was booting from,
> > pfsense didn't detect the cards either.
> > Mandriva 2009 LiveCD worked just fine.
> > --
> > JD Austin
> > Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC
> > j...@twingeckos.com 
> > 480.288.8195x201
> > http://www.twingeckos.com
> >
> Sometimes (older systems in particular) it helps to use nodma kernel
> option to get installs to recognize a CDRom.
>
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I gave up trying to get smoothwall to compile in the drivers... I eventually
stumbled on another Linux based firewall distribution that works!
Endian Community Firewall: http://efwsupport.com/
I still have to hack in changes to DHCP to deal with setting a tftp server
like I did with smoothwall but it's looking good so far :)

JD
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Re: [Article] Cox ready to throttle P2P, non "time sensitive" traffic

[Sharkscott]

Its all about control, always has been. Its not like they can't, or don't
already. They decide when they want too, and what they will throttle.

Control..that's all.

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Tuna  wrote:

> Anthony Boynes wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Stephen P Rufle
> >  wrote:
> >>
> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/01/cox-opens-up-throttle-for-p2p-non-time-sensitive-traffic.ars
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> >
> > Hrmm.  Here are the types of traffic that will be delayed at the
> > beginning of the trial.
> >
> > * File Access (Bulk transfers of data such as FTP)
> > * Network Storage (Bulk transfers of data for storage)
> > * P2P (Peer to peer protocols)
> > * Software Updates (Managed updates such as operating system updates)
> > * Usenet (Newsgroup related)
> >
> >
> > Why the heck would they want to delay OS updates? That seems rather silly
> to me.
> >
>
> Majority of Windows users don't even care about those. In fact, I'm
> pretty sure nobody does.
>
> Either people don't know what they are or they avoid them on purpose, it
> seems.
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Re: [Article] Cox ready to throttle P2P, non "time sensitive" traffic

[Tuna]

Sharkscott wrote:
> Its all about control, always has been. Its not like they can't, or 
> don't already. They decide when they want too, and what they will throttle.
> 
> Control..that's all.
> 

It is *their* network. I hate depending on them, though. I have very few 
good things to say about Cox. Everything from their annoying commercials 
to their absolutely horrible service, and now this makes a DIY 
self-lobotomy kit seem more attractive then anything they have ever 
offered for a monthly price.
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OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware

[Nathan England]

On Wednesday 28 January 2009 11:49:48 Patrick Jacques wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>   
>   
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Patrick Jacques <  moz-do-not-send="true"
> href="mailto:patr...@kinetic-computing.net";>patr...@kinetic-computing.neta>> wrote:
>   cite="mid:2864806b0901280414k20d4b761pf0527c9c9c5d...@mail.gmail.com"
>  type="cite">
>   
>   
> Also, which version of
> smoothwall are you working with? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 


Is there a way for mailman or whatever the mail list manager is to wipe out 
html messages and only send the plain text?

Or better yet, is there a way for my procmail to do it? 

nathan
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