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Re: .cpp linking problem

2009-02-14 Thread Joseph Sinclair

It's hard to troubleshoot the exact problem without code, but this most often 
happens when a
variable is declared *and* defined directly in a .h file.
The solution, usually, is to *declare* the variable as "extern type blah;" in 
the include file
and *define* the variable in one .c file as "type blah = value;".
The linker then ensures that all references to variable "blah" point to that 
one definition.

unixprgrm...@gmail.com wrote:
> I am trying to link library xy.a composed of x.o containing function x() and
> y.o containing function y() with d.o giving executable d
> 
> I call both x() and y() from d.cpp.  When I comment out the function call to
> y() in d.cpp it links just fine with library xy.a giving executable d BUT
> when I uncomment the function call to y() I get duplicate variable
> declaration errors.
> 
> Note that I need x.o and y.o in a library because I also link them with e.o
> to give executable e . Both x() and y() are called from both d and e
> executables.
> 
> I use the same custom include files in x.o y.o d.o and e.o. I am getting
> duplicate variable errors from the variables declared in these custom
> include files.
> 
> I also include standard include files such as  and  etc.
> etc. in all 4 .o's but I don't get duplicate variable errors from these.
> 
> I am #ifndef ing the entire include file just as is done with  etc.
> What am I doing wrong, that at link time I get duplicate variable errors?
> 
> Thanks for your help!
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Access Control Lists

2009-02-14 Thread Tameek Henderson

Ok that did it!  

I had to edit my /etc/fstab file and acl to the file system options then 
remount.  Thanks guys!




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-Original Message-
From: Jason 

Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:26:46 
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Cc: 
Subject: Re: Access Control Lists


I tried the same thing and got the same results as you. So, that's not
it at all. 

Then I did a search...

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/mandriva-30/setfacl-test-operation-not-supported-266804/

Notice that you may need to mount the filesystem with acl support. 


On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 21:20 -0700, Jason wrote:
> Since it's Ubuntu, have you tried running it as sudo?
> 
> $sudo setfacl -m u:linux77:rwx file.txt
> 
> On Sun, 2009-02-15 at 03:42 +, Tameek Henderson wrote:
> > I tried it with the UID and still no dice.  Hmmm...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --Original Message--
> > From: Bob Elzer
> > To: tameekhender...@gmail.com
> > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > Sent: Feb 14, 2009 8:32 PM
> > Subject: RE: Access Control Lists
> > 
> > I'm not sure since I don't use ACL's but the manual say it should be the UID
> > not the name of the user (linux77).
> > 
> >  
> > -Original Message-
> > From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Tameek
> > Henderson
> > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:04 PM
> > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > Subject: Access Control Lists
> > 
> > Hey gang,
> > 
> > I'm trying to set an access control on a file but I keep receiving an error
> > that the operation is not supported.  Here is the command I give:
> > 
> > $setfacl -m u:linux77:rwx file.txt
> > 
> > Here is the exact error:
> > 
> > Setfacl: file.txt: Operation not supported
> > 
> > Help!  :-p
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Tameek Henderson
> > 646.427.3205
> > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/5/116/522
> > 
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Re: Access Control Lists

2009-02-14 Thread koder

Add this link as well, it is specific to Ubuntu 8.04 and  contains a
caution about acl usage under Ubuntu:

http://beginlinux.com/server_training/server-managment-topics/1038-ubuntu-804-access-control-lists



I tried the same thing and got the same results as you. So, that's not
it at all. 

Then I did a search...

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/mandriva-30/setfacl-test-operation-not-supported-266804/

Notice that you may need to mount the filesystem with acl support. 


On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 21:20 -0700, Jason wrote:
> Since it's Ubuntu, have you tried running it as sudo?
> 
> $sudo setfacl -m u:linux77:rwx file.txt
> 
> On Sun, 2009-02-15 at 03:42 +, Tameek Henderson wrote:
> > I tried it with the UID and still no dice.  Hmmm...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --Original Message--
> > From: Bob Elzer
> > To: tameekhender...@gmail.com
> > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > Sent: Feb 14, 2009 8:32 PM
> > Subject: RE: Access Control Lists
> > 
> > I'm not sure since I don't use ACL's but the manual say it should be the UID
> > not the name of the user (linux77).
> > 
> >  
> > -Original Message-
> > From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Tameek
> > Henderson
> > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:04 PM
> > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > Subject: Access Control Lists
> > 
> > Hey gang,
> > 
> > I'm trying to set an access control on a file but I keep receiving an error
> > that the operation is not supported.  Here is the command I give:
> > 
> > $setfacl -m u:linux77:rwx file.txt
> > 
> > Here is the exact error:
> > 
> > Setfacl: file.txt: Operation not supported
> > 
> > Help!  :-p
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Tameek Henderson
> > 646.427.3205
> > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/5/116/522
> > 
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Re: Access Control Lists

2009-02-14 Thread Jason

I tried the same thing and got the same results as you. So, that's not
it at all. 

Then I did a search...

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/mandriva-30/setfacl-test-operation-not-supported-266804/

Notice that you may need to mount the filesystem with acl support. 


On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 21:20 -0700, Jason wrote:
> Since it's Ubuntu, have you tried running it as sudo?
> 
> $sudo setfacl -m u:linux77:rwx file.txt
> 
> On Sun, 2009-02-15 at 03:42 +, Tameek Henderson wrote:
> > I tried it with the UID and still no dice.  Hmmm...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --Original Message--
> > From: Bob Elzer
> > To: tameekhender...@gmail.com
> > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > Sent: Feb 14, 2009 8:32 PM
> > Subject: RE: Access Control Lists
> > 
> > I'm not sure since I don't use ACL's but the manual say it should be the UID
> > not the name of the user (linux77).
> > 
> >  
> > -Original Message-
> > From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Tameek
> > Henderson
> > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:04 PM
> > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > Subject: Access Control Lists
> > 
> > Hey gang,
> > 
> > I'm trying to set an access control on a file but I keep receiving an error
> > that the operation is not supported.  Here is the command I give:
> > 
> > $setfacl -m u:linux77:rwx file.txt
> > 
> > Here is the exact error:
> > 
> > Setfacl: file.txt: Operation not supported
> > 
> > Help!  :-p
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Tameek Henderson
> > 646.427.3205
> > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/5/116/522
> > 
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Re: Access Control Lists

2009-02-14 Thread Jason

Since it's Ubuntu, have you tried running it as sudo?

$sudo setfacl -m u:linux77:rwx file.txt

On Sun, 2009-02-15 at 03:42 +, Tameek Henderson wrote:
> I tried it with the UID and still no dice.  Hmmm...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --Original Message--
> From: Bob Elzer
> To: tameekhender...@gmail.com
> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> Sent: Feb 14, 2009 8:32 PM
> Subject: RE: Access Control Lists
> 
> I'm not sure since I don't use ACL's but the manual say it should be the UID
> not the name of the user (linux77).
> 
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Tameek
> Henderson
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:04 PM
> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: Access Control Lists
> 
> Hey gang,
> 
> I'm trying to set an access control on a file but I keep receiving an error
> that the operation is not supported.  Here is the command I give:
> 
> $setfacl -m u:linux77:rwx file.txt
> 
> Here is the exact error:
> 
> Setfacl: file.txt: Operation not supported
> 
> Help!  :-p
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Tameek Henderson
> 646.427.3205
> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/5/116/522
> 
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Re: Access Control Lists

2009-02-14 Thread Tameek Henderson

I tried it with the UID and still no dice.  Hmmm...





--Original Message--
From: Bob Elzer
To: tameekhender...@gmail.com
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Sent: Feb 14, 2009 8:32 PM
Subject: RE: Access Control Lists

I'm not sure since I don't use ACL's but the manual say it should be the UID
not the name of the user (linux77).

 
-Original Message-
From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
[mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Tameek
Henderson
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:04 PM
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Subject: Access Control Lists

Hey gang,

I'm trying to set an access control on a file but I keep receiving an error
that the operation is not supported.  Here is the command I give:

$setfacl -m u:linux77:rwx file.txt

Here is the exact error:

Setfacl: file.txt: Operation not supported

Help!  :-p




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RE: Access Control Lists

2009-02-14 Thread Bob Elzer

I'm not sure since I don't use ACL's but the manual say it should be the UID
not the name of the user (linux77).

 
-Original Message-
From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
[mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Tameek
Henderson
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:04 PM
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Subject: Access Control Lists

Hey gang,

I'm trying to set an access control on a file but I keep receiving an error
that the operation is not supported.  Here is the command I give:

$setfacl -m u:linux77:rwx file.txt

Here is the exact error:

Setfacl: file.txt: Operation not supported

Help!  :-p




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Re: Access Control Lists

2009-02-14 Thread Tameek Henderson

Nope, it's definitly ext3 on Ubuntu which supports ACL by default.





--Original Message--
From: Alan Dayley
To: tameekhender...@gmail.com
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Sent: Feb 14, 2009 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: Access Control Lists

On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Tameek Henderson
 wrote:
> Hey gang,
>
> I'm trying to set an access control on a file but I keep receiving an error 
> that the operation is not supported.  Here is the command I give:
>
> $setfacl -m u:linux77:rwx file.txt
>
> Here is the exact error:
>
> Setfacl: file.txt: Operation not supported
>
> Help!  :-p

Is file.txt stored on a FAT (i.e. Windows) file system perhaps?
Windows file systems don't support many of the Linux/Unix file
controls.

Alan


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Re: Access Control Lists

2009-02-14 Thread Alan Dayley

On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Tameek Henderson
 wrote:
> Hey gang,
>
> I'm trying to set an access control on a file but I keep receiving an error 
> that the operation is not supported.  Here is the command I give:
>
> $setfacl -m u:linux77:rwx file.txt
>
> Here is the exact error:
>
> Setfacl: file.txt: Operation not supported
>
> Help!  :-p

Is file.txt stored on a FAT (i.e. Windows) file system perhaps?
Windows file systems don't support many of the Linux/Unix file
controls.

Alan
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Re: .cpp linking problem

2009-02-14 Thread Jon M. Hanson

It sounds like you're getting the same header file included multiple  
times. If you look at the system header files you will see something  
like the following:


#ifndef _STDIO_H
#define _STDIO_H

[Header file code here]

#endif

So the first time stdio.h is included the header file code will be  
compiled. The second time something tries to include stdio.h, _STDIO_H  
is now defined so the header code is skipped thus avoiding the  
multiple includes. Try this with your header file(s) to see if it helps.


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On Feb 14, 2009, at 8:03 PM, unixprgrm...@gmail.com wrote:

I am trying to link library xy.a composed of x.o containing function  
x() and y.o containing function y() with d.o giving executable d


I call both x() and y() from d.cpp.  When I comment out the function  
call to y() in d.cpp it links just fine with library xy.a giving  
executable d BUT when I uncomment the function call to y() I get  
duplicate variable declaration errors.


Note that I need x.o and y.o in a library because I also link them  
with e.o to give executable e . Both x() and y() are called from  
both d and e executables.


I use the same custom include files in x.o y.o d.o and e.o. I am  
getting duplicate variable errors from the variables declared in  
these custom include files.


I also include standard include files such as  and   
etc. etc. in all 4 .o's but I don't get duplicate variable errors  
from these.


I am #ifndef ing the entire include file just as is done with  
 etc. What am I doing wrong, that at link time I get  
duplicate variable errors?


Thanks for your help!

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Access Control Lists

2009-02-14 Thread Tameek Henderson

Hey gang,

I'm trying to set an access control on a file but I keep receiving an error 
that the operation is not supported.  Here is the command I give:

$setfacl -m u:linux77:rwx file.txt

Here is the exact error:

Setfacl: file.txt: Operation not supported

Help!  :-p




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.cpp linking problem

2009-02-14 Thread unixprgrm...@gmail.com

I am trying to link library xy.a composed of x.o containing function x() and
y.o containing function y() with d.o giving executable d

I call both x() and y() from d.cpp.  When I comment out the function call to
y() in d.cpp it links just fine with library xy.a giving executable d BUT
when I uncomment the function call to y() I get duplicate variable
declaration errors.

Note that I need x.o and y.o in a library because I also link them with e.o
to give executable e . Both x() and y() are called from both d and e
executables.

I use the same custom include files in x.o y.o d.o and e.o. I am getting
duplicate variable errors from the variables declared in these custom
include files.

I also include standard include files such as  and  etc.
etc. in all 4 .o's but I don't get duplicate variable errors from these.

I am #ifndef ing the entire include file just as is done with  etc.
What am I doing wrong, that at link time I get duplicate variable errors?

Thanks for your help!

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Re: HackFest Today Room 107 at UAT.edu

2009-02-14 Thread mike havens

I sure wish I could be there!

On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

>  The shiny new UAT HackFest (InstallFest) lab room #107 includes bootable
> workstations, power and networking!
> Show up today (bring your LiveCD's) and help me check it out!
>
>
> Open Presentation format - Loosely called Patch Procrastinators Recovery
> Group!
>
> Noon - 3PM!
>
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> PLUG  HACKFESTS  2nd
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HackFest Today Room 107 at UAT.edu

2009-02-14 Thread Lisa Kachold


The shiny new UAT HackFest (InstallFest) lab room #107 includes bootable 
workstations, power and networking!Show up today (bring your LiveCD's) and help 
me check it out!Open Presentation format - Loosely called Patch Procrastinators 
Recovery Group!Noon - 3PM!obnosis.com | wiki.obnosis.com| (503)754-4452PLUG 
HACKFESTS 2nd Saturday Each mo...@noon - 3PM
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RE: HackFest Linux Security Series: Happy Valentines Day - How to Create a Linux Virus in Five Minutes "Required Reading for the Enlightened MailLister"

2009-02-14 Thread Lisa Kachold


Don't need to run as root,  you are a sudoer?  All one needs to do it run it 
from the desktop in KDE or Gnome and it will happily prompt you for 
access!obnosis.com | wiki.obnosis.com| (503)754-4452PLUG HACKFESTS 2nd Saturday 
Each mo...@noon - 3PM> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 22:53:16 -0700> Subject: Re: 
HackFest Linux Security Series: Happy Valentines Day - How to   Create a 
Linux Virus in Five Minutes "Required Reading for the  Enlightened MailLister"> 
From: cryptwo...@gmail.com> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us> > But 
how many ppl run with near root like access?> > Here not many but my first nix 
box I did..> > And isn't the partial point of hack fest to get ppl going?> > > 
On 2/13/09, Sharkscott  wrote:> > *That's the *whole 
point* of using *nix! A user cannot kill the *system*.> > That is the whole 
point*> >> > And that is something that they will just never never get.> >> 
> Scott> >> > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Jason  
wrote:> >> >> Umm, no offense, but this article is a ton of "if-then-else" 
type> >> thinking.> >>> >> "You can...no, really, you can...if..."> >>> >> I 
love the line about "Just because it can't affect the whole system> >> doesn't 
mean it can't cause damage."> >>> >> That's the *whole point* of using *nix! A 
user cannot kill the *system*.> >> That is the whole point> >>> >> Lisa, I 
think you sent this just to get people going:)> >>> >>> >> On Fri, 
2009-02-13 at 16:43 +, Lisa Kachold wrote:> >> > On Friday the 13th, the 
end of the universe as we know it, right> >> > before Valentines Day attachment 
madness, we examine the techno-urban> >> > myth "Linux is more secure than 
Windows" with this excellent treatise> >> > on linux security.  It includes 
"Getting Root" and "pwning your> >> > friends/enemies" in one easy click.> >> 
>> >> > obnosis.com | wiki.obnosis.com| (503)754-4452> >> > PLUG HACKFESTS 2nd 
Saturday Each mo...@noon - 3PM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > 
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Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. See how it works.> >> > 
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RE: HackFest Linux Security Series: Happy Valentines Day - How to Create a Linux Virus in Five Minutes "Required Reading for the Enlightened MailLister"

2009-02-14 Thread Lisa Kachold


Click on this attachment and save it to your desktop and we can test if this 
works?Just kidding!  But if you are game, let me know and we can actually prove 
it with a lab?obnosis.com | wiki.obnosis.com| (503)754-4452PLUG HACKFESTS 2nd 
Saturday Each mo...@noon - 3PM> Subject: Re: HackFest Linux Security Series: 
Happy Valentines Day - How to   Create a Linux Virus in Five Minutes "Required 
Reading for the  Enlightened MailLister"> From: jas...@spatafore.net> To: 
plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:48:17 -0700> 
CC: plug-de...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us> > Umm, no offense, but this article is 
a ton of "if-then-else" type> thinking. > > "You can...no, really, you 
can...if..."> > I love the line about "Just because it can't affect the whole 
system> doesn't mean it can't cause damage."> > That's the *whole point* of 
using *nix! A user cannot kill the *system*.> That is the whole point> > 
Lisa, I think you sent this just to get people going:)> > > On Fri, 
2009-02-13 at 16:43 +, Lisa Kachold wrote:> > On Friday the 13th, the end 
of the universe as we know it, right> > before Valentines Day attachment 
madness, we examine the techno-urban> > myth "Linux is more secure than 
Windows" with this excellent treatise> > on linux security.  It includes 
"Getting Root" and "pwning your> > friends/enemies" in one easy click.> > > > 
obnosis.com | wiki.obnosis.com| (503)754-4452> > PLUG HACKFESTS 2nd Saturday 
Each mo...@noon - 3PM> > > > > > > > > > 
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RE: HackFest Linux Security Series: Happy Valentines Day - How to Create a Linux Virus in Five Minutes "Required Reading for the Enlightened MailLister"

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